tired of p2w system!!!!!

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i ve spend over 2k dollars over the past 2 years that i am playing and i cant find any motivation to buy any more ncoin again for the last 3 months.why i dont like to pay anymore??? this is the 10 milion dollar question i guess!!!! i realize that i play a game that the guy that wins in the game is the guy who spends the most dollars. do i want to participate in such a game?thats another important question to be answered...i see thought naia which i play that ppl seems to understand that and abandone the game slowly. i even cant find 1 party for af lately!!!! i cant play oly cause the unbalance is too high and i loose on 1 shot from top players. the rewards there are rediculus. i cant pvp cause my gear is too low!!!! so whats the point of playing anymore????? even sieges dont have action anymore. dh have all castles and they rule. so no point on siege either!!!!! finally i ll make a prediction for the game that i love so much. if the situation continues like this in 2-3 years l2 will be deleted from our computers.i w8 for your opinions.ty.
i ve spend over 2k dollars over the past 2 years that i am playing and i cant find any motivation to buy any more ncoin again for the last 3 months.why i dont like to pay anymore??? this is the 10 milion dollar question i guess!!!! i realize that i play a game that the guy that wins in the game is the guy who spends the most dollars. do i want to participate in such a game?thats another important question to be answered...i see thought naia which i play that ppl seems to understand that and abandone the game slowly. i even cant find 1 party for af lately!!!! i cant play oly cause the unbalance is too high and i loose on 1 shot from top players. the rewards there are rediculus. i cant pvp cause my gear is too low!!!! so whats the point of playing anymore????? even sieges dont have action anymore. dh have all castles and they rule. so no point on siege either!!!!! finally i ll make a prediction for the game that i love so much. if the situation continues like this in 2-3 years l2 will be deleted from our computers.i w8 for your opinions.ty.



Bottom line is the game is a p2p game - falsely advertised to its own detriment as a f2p game.


Nonetheless, here is the deal if L2 is going to survive.


1.It has to fix the issue of parity. Currently, their is a 'major gap' that cannot be reasonably narrowed. It exists on 2 levels: gear and level.


2. The reasonableness of event success is non-existent. We are now at a dead end where NC has bled a large percentage of whales + now those like you who have spent => what I would class for a game as quite a lot - especially void of any relevant gap closure success - have given up.


A company needs money to keep doors open & needs to not price gouge!

L2 can only achieve long-term viability by:
a. L2 SHOP everything - and that means virtually EVERYTHING. -Items need to be priced low.
-Throw out ALL success percentage items - NC blew away this feature given their: "Contact your local government" response on this issue.


THIS NARROWS THE GEAR GAP AND PROVIDES PARITY AND HOPE FOR 10,000 PPL + ! Why, because there is far more money serving the masses who will dabble for small improvements when money can be put on a game (like you) than there is bleeding what is left of a circling the drain whale class.

b. Allow changes to mains and to duals. WTF not ! If you pay a small fee and change, ppl should be allowed to change - YES EVEN MAIN CLASSES. Reduce the main class to same lvl void of any perks purchased/attained (ie. skill enchants etc).

WHY - to allow ppl to stay engaged. A customer is BORED with playing his main toon for 'x' number of years & is faced with the option to 'start a new toon'. REALLY - you want a wall to get to 100+++ put in front of your longstanding customer who has paid money to play......that's just stupid. Politics in game change.....clans change....CPs change....what is so hard to understand why this is needed in a game. THE POINT IS TO KEEP/RETAIN CUSTOMERS.....NOT TO PUT START OVER BARRIERS IN THEIR PATHS while they continue to PAY YOU MONEY!

c. Make DPS equal for class types....It's mathematical guys...the decision to play a certain toon should not be 'x' DD does more damage than 'y' DD.....this is something obvious!
L2 is losing mmorpg spirit and dev team, NcSoft, is doing their best to wipe what players like.
Only few examples:
PPl like RedLibra>>>Dev team:we cant stop doing event but we put some rare not tradable items mandatory for the class you play so in the end ppl wont ask redlibra coz they have nothing to change.
Ppl like fishing to make some adena>>>Dev Team: OMG OMG OMG, too much ppl fishing to get adena, lets nefert so none will fish.
But hey, we will have weekend event...mobs from GC will drop 3200 adena instead of 1600 adena. Chears! I feel exceptionaly rewarded.

I still wonder why DevTeam did not notice PPL like to solo instances here in NcSoft...like Kartia 95 group, Kamaloka 99, CC...
In good spirit of tradition, DevTeam, NcSoft, pls nefert that too...make again minimum 7 ppl to entry. And dragons, oh dragons...cc of 48 ppl its not enough, make it 101 ppl. All those instances are exceptionaly rewarded.

I think its time to do this!
Bottom line is the game is a p2p game - falsely advertised to its own detriment as a f2p game.


Nonetheless, here is the deal if L2 is going to survive.


1.It has to fix the issue of parity. Currently, their is a 'major gap' that cannot be reasonably narrowed. It exists on 2 levels: gear and level.


2. The reasonableness of event success is non-existent. We are now at a dead end where NC has bled a large percentage of whales + now those like you who have spent => what I would class for a game as quite a lot - especially void of any relevant gap closure success - have given up.


A company needs money to keep doors open & needs to not price gouge!

L2 can only achieve long-term viability by:
a. L2 SHOP everything - and that means virtually EVERYTHING. -Items need to be priced low.
-Throw out ALL success percentage items - NC blew away this feature given their: "Contact your local government" response on this issue.


THIS NARROWS THE GEAR GAP AND PROVIDES PARITY AND HOPE FOR 10,000 PPL + ! Why, because there is far more money serving the masses who will dabble for small improvements when money can be put on a game (like you) than there is bleeding what is left of a circling the drain whale class.

b. Allow changes to mains and to duals. WTF not ! If you pay a small fee and change, ppl should be allowed to change - YES EVEN MAIN CLASSES. Reduce the main class to same lvl void of any perks purchased/attained (ie. skill enchants etc).

WHY - to allow ppl to stay engaged. A customer is BORED with playing his main toon for 'x' number of years & is faced with the option to 'start a new toon'. REALLY - you want a wall to get to 100+++ put in front of your longstanding customer who has paid money to play......that's just stupid. Politics in game change.....clans change....CPs change....what is so hard to understand why this is needed in a game. THE POINT IS TO KEEP/RETAIN CUSTOMERS.....NOT TO PUT START OVER BARRIERS IN THEIR PATHS while they continue to PAY YOU MONEY!

c. Make DPS equal for class types....It's mathematical guys...the decision to play a certain toon should not be 'x' DD does more damage than 'y' DD.....this is something obvious!

all i read was bull*hit, i keep seeing that the nowdays ncwest forum warriors are dumb than ever and have no busines inteligent or know anything related to it.

Over the past two decades, Amazon has seen its revenues increase exponentially, while its profits are around zero or below that.

Last year, the company earned $ 88 billion, but reported a loss of $ 240 million. In comparison, the British supermarket chain Tesco had revenues of $ 111 billion, with a profit of $ 4 billion. But at this point, the stock market indicates that Amazon is worth eight times more than Tesco.

It's not that Amazon has not made a lot of money with books and a wide variety of products, serving as a sales platform for many other businesses. But the company has constantly reapplied this capital in investments that mainly seek to improve its delivery infrastructure, which is at the heart of its business.

This means that the company has been able to meet the wishes of its customers ever faster. Today, there is even a button that can be triggered when some product ends at home for the company to deliver without the consumer having to get close to a computer or cell phone. In recent years, a growing share of this capital has been applied in a new business, Amazon's cloud computing service. It is currently generating significant revenue - and, much to the surprise of many, it is profitable, though it is probably redirected to generate more growth.

Today, investors seem to accept this eye-catching formula in a company future that seems to never really come. But in the first decade of his company's life, its founder, Jeff Bezos, had to challenge the market by refusing to change his strategy when rumors on Wall Street said Amazon was headed for bankruptcy.

u guyz should stop talking *hit on matters u have 0 clue about. really, are u ppl that dumb that u cant see that ncwest have business managers and economists working for them? are u ppl that childish??
Seems that you are the dumb one in here, 2nd bubble busted.

Go play at Amazon and Tesco servers, smart ****.
all i read was bull*hit, i keep seeing that the nowdays ncwest forum warriors are dumb than ever and have no busines inteligent or know anything related to it.

Over the past two decades, Amazon has seen its revenues increase exponentially, while its profits are around zero or below that.

Last year, the company earned $ 88 billion, but reported a loss of $ 240 million. In comparison, the British supermarket chain Tesco had revenues of $ 111 billion, with a profit of $ 4 billion. But at this point, the stock market indicates that Amazon is worth eight times more than Tesco.

It's not that Amazon has not made a lot of money with books and a wide variety of products, serving as a sales platform for many other businesses. But the company has constantly reapplied this capital in investments that mainly seek to improve its delivery infrastructure, which is at the heart of its business.

This means that the company has been able to meet the wishes of its customers ever faster. Today, there is even a button that can be triggered when some product ends at home for the company to deliver without the consumer having to get close to a computer or cell phone. In recent years, a growing share of this capital has been applied in a new business, Amazon's cloud computing service. It is currently generating significant revenue - and, much to the surprise of many, it is profitable, though it is probably redirected to generate more growth.

Today, investors seem to accept this eye-catching formula in a company future that seems to never really come. But in the first decade of his company's life, its founder, Jeff Bezos, had to challenge the market by refusing to change his strategy when rumors on Wall Street said Amazon was headed for bankruptcy.

u guyz should stop talking *hit on matters u have 0 clue about. really, are u ppl that dumb that u cant see that ncwest have business managers and economists working for them? are u ppl that childish??







Well tbh, all I see is a post from a pretentious 20 yr old who buys self-help books and reads autobiographies living vicariously through the accomplishments of others. Further, I see a half-conspiracy individual whose glass is half-full and who offers nothing.


The comments posted are two-fold: 1. Calling out the current state due to the continued piggishness of NC, and 2. Viable options to keep the 'circling the drain game' afloat given the absence of any parity in the game on every level.


Companies go down given stupid paths and decisions. Go read some more books and maybe your pretentious shut-in existence will grow.


Otherwise...s t f u because you offer nothing but trolling other players.
*Tosses you the daily brown nose hero cookie* LMAO pfftttt
Well tbh, all I see is a post from a pretentious 20 yr old who buys self-help books and reads autobiographies living vicariously through the accomplishments of others. Further, I see a half-conspiracy individual whose glass is half-full and who offers nothing.


The comments posted are two-fold: 1. Calling out the current state due to the continued piggishness of NC, and 2. Viable options to keep the 'circling the drain game' afloat given the absence of any parity in the game on every level.


Companies go down given stupid paths and decisions. Go read some more books and maybe your pretentious shut-in existence will grow.


Otherwise...s t f u because you offer nothing but trolling other players.
*Tosses you the daily brown nose hero cookie* LMAO pfftttt

u mad bra?

anything u write earlier help either, u guyz just post nonsense after nonsense, complaing about things u are the one who ruined.

the freemium wont stop just because u tried to talk about it on boards, while pitakas keep enchant +18*+19 pvp shirts and delusionalseeker keep buying 200b worth in ncoin to pay for a pvp bow ur boards cry wont change anything.

:cool:

Seems that you are the dumb one in here, 2nd bubble busted.

Go play at Amazon and Tesco servers, smart ****.

how cuttie!
Lolz, if you have other opinion then Gustin2004 he is doing a fury atack and throw words like stupid, dumb,troll etc...you got the ideea.

Probably now he is saying: "you are nothing but a gang of stupids,im the only one smart here and im out of here" and he is doing the right move.
Pls smart guy leave us in our missery...you are better then that.
Lolz, if you have other opinion then Gustin2004 he is doing a fury atack and throw words like stupid, dumb,troll etc...you got the ideea.

Probably now he is saying: "you are nothing but a gang of stupids,im the only one smart here and im out of here" and he is doing the right move.
Pls smart guy leave us in our missery...you are better then that.

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