Guide : HOW MUCH MONEY do you have to spend to have fun in Lineage 2?

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Hello all,

I see many new comers asking "can I fit in?" and be competitive in order to enjoy Lineage 2. I am going to lay out exactly what the reality of today's Lineage 2 is for everyone to see. This is not going to a 100% accurate projections, but it will be close. All estimates are for level 99+ and margin of error with cost is +/- 10%. Setup is based on a melee character & LIVE, Main, Active Players. Shop characters and Storage Characters are not accounted for. Mages estimate won't be much different than this. Main class only. Item valuation based on CHRONOS SERVER.

#ECONOMICAL SETUP (You will be in 50% percentile of the players)

Weapon: Kelbim/Tauti Weapons [6b]
Armor: +6 R99 Armor Set [4b]
Earrings: Zaken [1.5b], Enhanced Octavis Earring [1b]
Necklace: Enhanced Octavis [0.5b]
Rings: Queen Ant Soul Ring [1b], Baium Soul Ring [2b]
Belt: R99 Belt [0.2b]
Brooch: Free 2 Slot Brooch During Event[0b]
Jewels: Lv3 Ruby [3b], Lv3 Diamond [2b]
Talisman: Longing [6b]
Shirt: Octavis Shirt [0.5b]
Agathion: Not Necessary/Free Agathion During Event [0b]
Cloak: Free Class Cloak [0b]
Hair Accessory: STR Accessory [0.1b]
Dyes: 15 STR Dyes [2b]
Misc: Weapon Auguments, SA...etc [2b]

TOTAL : 31b = $300



#PRO SETUP (You will be in 75% percentile of the players)

Weapon: +12 Bloody/Dark Weapons [30]
Armor: +8 Bloody/Dark Armor Set [40]
Earrings: Blessed Antharas [35], Blessed Zaken [1.5]
Necklace: Blessed Valakas [25]
Rings: Tauti Ring [10b], Baium Soul Ring [2]
Belt: Ekimus/Monkey [5]
Brooch: 4 Slot Brooch [4]
Jewels: Lv4 Ruby [15], Lv4 Diamond [12], Lv4 Obsidian [12], Lv4 Opa [12]
Talisman: Longing [6], Abundance Lv1 [5], Venir 14 [3]
Shirt: Shiny Shirt +7 [15]
Agathion: 3-Star [4]
Cloak: +7 PvE/PvP [5]
Hair Accessory: STR+P.Atk [3]
Dyes: 15 STR Legendary Dyes [6]
Misc: Weapon Auguments, SA, Armor OE, Accessory OE...etc [10]

TOTAL : 260b = $2600



#TOP END SETUP (You will be in 95% percentile of the players)

Weapon: +15 Bloody/Dark Weapons [90]
Armor: +10 Dark Armor Set [80]
Earrings: Blessed Antharas [35], Lindvior Earrings [60]
Necklace: Blessed Valakas [25]
Rings: Tauti Ring [10], Ruler's Authority Ring [60]
Belt: Ruler's Authority Belt [40]
Brooch: 5 Slot Brooch [6]
Jewels: Lv5 Ruby [200], Lv5 Diamond [150], Lv5 Obsidian [150], Lv5 Opa [150], Lv5 Tanzanite [200]
Talisman: Insanity [40], Seven Sign [6b], Abundance Lv4 [20], Venir 16 [8]
Shirt: Shiny Shirt +8 [20]
Agathion: 4-Star [8]
Cloak: +10 PvE/PvP [15]
Hair Accessory: STR+P.Atk [3]
Dyes: 15 STR+CHAR Dyes [15]
Misc: Weapon Auguments, SA, Armor OE, Accessory OE, Skill OE...etc [50]

TOTAL : 1400 = $14,000



#GOD MODE SETUP (You are THE Number #1 and people know who you are)

Weapon: Dragon Weapon Stage 2 [4000+]
Armor: +12 Dark Armor Set [150]
Earrings: Blessed Antharas [35], Lindvior Earrings [60]
Necklace: Blessed Valakas [25]
Rings: Tauti Ring [10], Ruler's Authority Ring [60]
Belt: Ruler's Authority Belt [40]
Brooch: 6 Slot Brooch [50]
Jewels: Lv6 Ruby [400], Lv6 Diamond [300], Lv6 Obsidian [300], Lv6 Red Cats [1000], Lv6 Tanzanite [400], Lv6 Amethyst [500]
Talisman: Insanity [40], Seven Sign [60], Abundance Lv4 [20], Venir 16 [8]
Shirt: Shiny Shirt +10 [200]
Agathion: 5-Star [30]
Cloak: +20 PvE/PvP [1000]
Hair Accessory: STR+P.Atk [3]
Dyes: 15 STR+CHAR Dyes [50]
Misc: Weapon Auguments, SA, Armor OE, Accessory OE, Skill OE...etc [200]

TOTAL : 8500b = $85,000

Conclusion : There is an exponential gain in cost after about 75% percentile, which the cost of gear will be around $5000. If you want to exceed this "sweet spot", you will have to start paying a lot more to climb up and gains will be slower and slower.

Edited 10.31.2017
Level 4 gems are way more expensive than listed O.o
Level 4 gems are way more expensive than listed O.o

Lv3 and 4 pricess are based on YOU crafting it. I know the probability pretty accurate because I've played the event. Sealing or buying lvl3-4 is a foolish idea.
If these prices are accurate, just wow on how much more expensive NAIA is.
If these prices are accurate, just wow on how much more expensive NAIA is.

I know the answer, not worth.

Btw, the brightest stars used to shine the most less, dont forget.
You have underestimated all



#ECONOMICAL SETUP (You will be in 50% percentile of the players)

Weapon: Kelbim/Tauti Weapons [6b] it's 7 to say the less
Armor: +6 R99 Armor Set [4b]
Earrings: Zaken [1.5b], Enhanced Octavis Earring [1b]
Necklace: Enhanced Octavis [0.5b]
Rings: Queen Ant Soul Ring [1b], Baium Soul Ring [2b] it's 2.5 an 4
Belt: R99 Belt [0.2b]
Brooch: Free 2 Slot Brooch During Event[0b]
Jewels: Lv3 Ruby [3b], Lv3 Diamond [2b] lvl 3 ruby 4.5 lvl 3 diamond 4
Talisman: Longing [6b] is 8.5 to say the less
Shirt: Octavis Shirt [0.5b]
Agathion: Not Necessary/Free Agathion During Event [0b]
Cloak: Free Class Cloak [0b]
Hair Accessory: STR Accessory [0.1b] a 2 slot eg con+pdef is 1.5 billions
Dyes: 15 STR Dyes [2b]
Misc: Weapon Auguments, SA...etc [2b]

TOTAL : 31b = $300 it's + 11.4 = 42.4 = 440 u.s. dollar = no one will let you join a party for a 100+ istance [gludio/af/altar/gos]


#PRO SETUP (You will be in 75% percentile of the players)

Weapon: +12 Bloody/Dark Weapons [30] +12 bloody 45 dark 60
Armor: +8 Bloody/Dark Armor Set [40] let's say 50/60
Earrings: Blessed Antharas [35], Blessed Zaken [1.5] blessed anthy is 60
Necklace: Blessed Valakas [25] blessed vala is 42
Rings: Tauti Ring [10b], Baium Soul Ring [2] tauti is 13 baium soul 5
Belt: Ekimus/Monkey [5] Monkey is 7.5
Brooch: 4 Slot Brooch [4]
Jewels: Lv4 Ruby [15], Lv4 Diamond [12], Lv4 Obsidian [12], Lv4 Opa [12]
Talisman: Longing [6], Abundance Lv1 [5], Venir 14 [3] longing 8.5 abu 1 10 venir 14 4.5
Shirt: Shiny Shirt +7 [15] it can't be transferred
Agathion: 3-Star [4] never seen it in here
Cloak: +7 PvE/PvP [5] never had [u need to buy a legendary cloack that's worth 20b or more]
Hair Accessory: STR+P.Atk [3]
Dyes: 15 STR Legendary Dyes [6]
Misc: Weapon Auguments, SA, Armor OE, Accessory OE...etc [10]

TOTAL : 260b = $2600 [it's about 380b to 600b=6.000 u.s. dollars to do 100+ daily quests].



#TOP END SETUP (You will be in 95% percentile of the players)

Weapon: +15 Bloody/Dark Weapons [30]
Armor: +10 Dark Armor Set [80]
Earrings: Blessed Antharas [35], Lindvior Earrings [60]
Necklace: Blessed Valakas [25]
Rings: Tauti Ring [10], Ruler's Authority Ring [60]
Belt: Ruler's Authority Belt [40]
Brooch: 5 Slot Brooch [6]
Jewels: Lv5 Ruby [200], Lv5 Diamond [150], Lv5 Obsidian [150], Lv5 Opa [150], Lv5 Tanzanite [200]
Talisman: Insanity [40], Seven Sign [6b], Abundance Lv4 [20], Venir 16 [8]
Shirt: Shiny Shirt +8 [20]
Agathion: 4-Star [8]
Cloak: +10 PvE/PvP [15]
Hair Accessory: STR+P.Atk [3]
Dyes: 15 STR+CHAR Dyes [15]
Misc: Weapon Auguments, SA, Armor OE, Accessory OE, Skill OE...etc [50]

TOTAL : 1350b = $13,500 [it's about 1800b]



#GOD MODE SETUP (You are THE Number #1 and people know who you are)

Weapon: Dragon Weapon Stage 2 [4000+]
Armor: +12 Dark Armor Set [150]
Earrings: Blessed Antharas [35], Lindvior Earrings [60]
Necklace: Blessed Valakas [25]
Rings: Tauti Ring [10], Ruler's Authority Ring [60]
Belt: Ruler's Authority Belt [40]
Brooch: 6 Slot Brooch [50] 6 sloot it's 80
Jewels: Lv6 Ruby [400], Lv6 Diamond [300], Lv6 Obsidian [300], Lv6 Red Cats [1000], Lv6 Tanzanite [400], Lv6 Amethyst [500]
Talisman: Insanity [40], Seven Sign [60], Abundance Lv4 [20], Venir 16 [8] insanity is 50to60 abu 4 35 venir 16 20to30
Shirt: Shiny Shirt +10 [200] +10 shirt never had a shirt +0
Agathion: 5-Star [30] never had
Cloak: +20 PvE/PvP [1000] never had
Hair Accessory: STR+P.Atk [3]
Dyes: 15 STR+CHAR Dyes [50]
Misc: Weapon Auguments, SA, Armor OE, Accessory OE, Skill OE...etc [200]

TOTAL : 8500b = $85,000 [I think it's more than $100.000 probably $125k]

Conclusion : There is an exponential gain in cost after about 75% percentile, which the cost of gear will be around $5000. If you want to exceed this "sweet spot", you will have to start paying a lot more to climb up and gains will be slower and slower.


As a sidenote if you want to play L2 on naia nowadays really for free, i.e. without beeing expelled 24/24 7/7/ 365/365 from parties, sieges and the like, you will need at least 20.000 to 30.000 u.s. dollars. That's the truth. Go figure it out how someone who played from C1 has gained 1.200 to 1.500 billions.

Omen, listen. On a single day you sold jewel caskets for 42 billions=$420.
Now have you noticed that naia is a madhouse?
Hello all,

I see many new comers asking "can I fit in?" and be competitive in order to enjoy Lineage 2. I am going to lay out exactly what the reality of today's Lineage 2 is for everyone to see. This is not going to a 100% accurate projections, but it will be close. All estimates are for level 99+ and margin of error with cost is +/- 10%. Setup is based on a melee character & LIVE, Main, Active Players. Shop characters and Storage Characters are not accounted for. Mages estimate won't be much different than this. Main class only.

#ECONOMICAL SETUP (You will be in 50% percentile of the players)

Weapon: Kelbim/Tauti Weapons [6b]
Armor: +6 R99 Armor Set [4b]
Earrings: Zaken [1.5b], Enhanced Octavis Earring [1b]
Necklace: Enhanced Octavis [0.5b]
Rings: Queen Ant Soul Ring [1b], Baium Soul Ring [2b]
Belt: R99 Belt [0.2b]
Brooch: Free 2 Slot Brooch During Event[0b]
Jewels: Lv3 Ruby [3b], Lv3 Diamond [2b]
Talisman: Longing [6b]
Shirt: Octavis Shirt [0.5b]
Agathion: Not Necessary/Free Agathion During Event [0b]
Cloak: Free Class Cloak [0b]
Hair Accessory: STR Accessory [0.1b]
Dyes: 15 STR Dyes [2b]
Misc: Weapon Auguments, SA...etc [2b]

TOTAL : 31b = $300



#PRO SETUP (You will be in 75% percentile of the players)

Weapon: +12 Bloody/Dark Weapons [30]
Armor: +8 Bloody/Dark Armor Set [40]
Earrings: Blessed Antharas [35], Blessed Zaken [1.5]
Necklace: Blessed Valakas [25]
Rings: Tauti Ring [10b], Baium Soul Ring [2]
Belt: Ekimus/Monkey [5]
Brooch: 4 Slot Brooch [4]
Jewels: Lv4 Ruby [15], Lv4 Diamond [12], Lv4 Obsidian [12], Lv4 Opa [12]
Talisman: Longing [6], Abundance Lv1 [5], Venir 14 [3]
Shirt: Shiny Shirt +7 [15]
Agathion: 3-Star [4]
Cloak: +7 PvE/PvP [5]
Hair Accessory: STR+P.Atk [3]
Dyes: 15 STR Legendary Dyes [6]
Misc: Weapon Auguments, SA, Armor OE, Accessory OE...etc [10]

TOTAL : 260b = $2600



#TOP END SETUP (You will be in 95% percentile of the players)

Weapon: +15 Bloody/Dark Weapons [30]
Armor: +10 Dark Armor Set [80]
Earrings: Blessed Antharas [35], Lindvior Earrings [60]
Necklace: Blessed Valakas [25]
Rings: Tauti Ring [10], Ruler's Authority Ring [60]
Belt: Ruler's Authority Belt [40]
Brooch: 5 Slot Brooch [6]
Jewels: Lv5 Ruby [200], Lv5 Diamond [150], Lv5 Obsidian [150], Lv5 Opa [150], Lv5 Tanzanite [200]
Talisman: Insanity [40], Seven Sign [6b], Abundance Lv4 [20], Venir 16 [8]
Shirt: Shiny Shirt +8 [20]
Agathion: 4-Star [8]
Cloak: +10 PvE/PvP [15]
Hair Accessory: STR+P.Atk [3]
Dyes: 15 STR+CHAR Dyes [15]
Misc: Weapon Auguments, SA, Armor OE, Accessory OE, Skill OE...etc [50]

TOTAL : 1350b = $13,500



#GOD MODE SETUP (You are THE Number #1 and people know who you are)

Weapon: Dragon Weapon Stage 2 [4000+]
Armor: +12 Dark Armor Set [150]
Earrings: Blessed Antharas [35], Lindvior Earrings [60]
Necklace: Blessed Valakas [25]
Rings: Tauti Ring [10], Ruler's Authority Ring [60]
Belt: Ruler's Authority Belt [40]
Brooch: 6 Slot Brooch [50]
Jewels: Lv6 Ruby [400], Lv6 Diamond [300], Lv6 Obsidian [300], Lv6 Red Cats [1000], Lv6 Tanzanite [400], Lv6 Amethyst [500]
Talisman: Insanity [40], Seven Sign [60], Abundance Lv4 [20], Venir 16 [8]
Shirt: Shiny Shirt +10 [200]
Agathion: 5-Star [30]
Cloak: +20 PvE/PvP [1000]
Hair Accessory: STR+P.Atk [3]
Dyes: 15 STR+CHAR Dyes [50]
Misc: Weapon Auguments, SA, Armor OE, Accessory OE, Skill OE...etc [200]

TOTAL : 8500b = $85,000

Conclusion : There is an exponential gain in cost after about 75% percentile, which the cost of gear will be around $5000. If you want to exceed this "sweet spot", you will have to start paying a lot more to climb up and gains will be slower and slower.

Edited 10.31.2017

ROFL at this, these number are NOWHERE close to real numbers, unless you want to buy adena from the Chinese and buy all this stuff with adena which it will not happen! ever period.

I made my char in the top with no more than $5000, if you spent the money on Ncoin no only you get a few of the items but also you get the option to sell and buy other stuff, I even bought a ton of baits.

btw $40000 for a lvl 2 dragon weapon? LOL...just LOL!!
Some prices are kinda underestimated...but I think its close to Chronos server.
For Naia and Freya you need to add 30-40% more.

Btw, dont be ignorant....Top and god setup are not made with real money :) Those exclusive items belong to clan leaders and top Cps leaders.
Otherwise, top and god setup are good estimated in real money.
#PRO SETUP (You will be in 75% percentile of the players)

Weapon: +12 Bloody/Dark Weapons [30]

#TOP END SETUP (You will be in 95% percentile of the players)

Weapon: +15 Bloody/Dark Weapons [30]

Edited 10.31.2017

There's an error there, just wanted to mention it. +12 weapon more like 38b once it has 3SA's and Full Ele but you are listing the price for +12 and +15 as the same. +15b is much more expensive.
There's an error there, just wanted to mention it. +12 weapon more like 38b once it has 3SA's and Full Ele but you are listing the price for +12 and +15 as the same. +15b is much more expensive.

Thank you. Revised.
Some prices are kinda underestimated...but I think its close to Chronos server.
For Naia and Freya you need to add 30-40% more.

Btw, dont be ignorant....Top and god setup are not made with real money :) Those exclusive items belong to clan leaders and top Cps leaders.
Otherwise, top and god setup are good estimated in real money.

Yes. The valuations are based on Chronos server. You may feel that the prices are on the lower side because I’m stating the wholesale value (prices that will liquidate the item within 24 hours). If you try to get more adena buy holding onto it for multiple days (like most greedy people do), you may get a little more but not much. Like I said earlier, prices are about +/- 10% margin of error.
ROFL at this, these number are NOWHERE close to real numbers, unless you want to buy adena from the Chinese and buy all this stuff with adena which it will not happen! ever period.

I made my char in the top with no more than $5000, if you spent the money on Ncoin no only you get a few of the items but also you get the option to sell and buy other stuff, I even bought a ton of baits.

btw $40000 for a lvl 2 dragon weapon? LOL...just LOL!!

Numbers are based on Chronos Server and YES, it is very accurate. Trust me, I’ve outspent you on this game x100 more than you I can tell AND guarantee.
You have underestimated all
Your prices are way off too.


As a sidenote if you want to play L2 on naia nowadays really for free, i.e. without beeing expelled 24/24 7/7/ 365/365 from parties, sieges and the like, you will need at least 20.000 to 30.000 u.s. dollars. That's the truth. Go figure it out how someone who played from C1 has gained 1.200 to 1.500 billions.

Total BS. 20 to 30k US$ to not be expelled from parties? wtf LOL

Omen, listen. On a single day you sold jewel caskets for 42 billions=$420.
Now have you noticed that naia is a madhouse?
Hummm I never sold Jewel Boxes for 42bil on a day and dunno what this has to do with Naia being a madhouse...
To Omen. Maths says 420 u.s. dollars x 356 days = 153.300 u.s. dollars.
This is what you are supposed to spend x year only for jewel boxes. ;)

Sorry but in the morning i have to work. Ask to your parents what does it mean to work to get a real life.

I know too well that there are like 300 to 350 freaks in NA that want to continue to play L2 in this madhouse but to do so they need another 5650 players, aka meat for slaughter, because not Neutron nor Conguero will continue to mantain a single server active only for those 350 freaks.

I'll post screenshot with real prices this evening.

I know that you need 5650 meatshields but you can set up a fraud for your own amusement.

Btw dragon weapon stage 2 = 2.5-3 trillions= 25.000 to 30.000 u.s. dollars.
Ask who bought first the antaras caster lvl 0 = 8.000 u.s. dollars
You know too well where to look for the real price.
To Omen. Maths says 420 u.s. dollars x 356 days = 153.300 u.s. dollars.
This is what you are supposed to spend x year only for jewel boxes. ;)

lol this calculation makes just as much sense as most of your other posts :o (Zero)
Also don't talk about $ when all that is involved is play money (= adena).

Sorry but in the morning i have to work. Ask to your parents what does it mean to work to get a real life.

Resorting to RL flames cos u got no arguments? Ooookay :D

I'll post screenshot with real prices this evening.

Sure, go ahead, will again be fun I'm sure.
You don't need to spend a dime to have fun in Lineage 2.

The idea that you need to spend great sums of money to play and have fun in the game, is the same that thinking that you need to use drugs to be the "best" athlete: sure, you can get some medals, but you are nothing more than a fraud.
Thats why ppl take all this money and buy a lot of medium PC's and win more money with bot and web adena sellers :D:D:D:D:D:D, this l2 items prices are a joke for a dx8 game, in the moment that u can buy an item that give u advantage against other player directly in game, the concept of fun in game is broken, and it's became another work and disapointment.

Ppl can come here and say "play for make friends" "play for fun not for compete", plz, the mostly virgin words that u can read nowdays. Who in normal state of mind enter in game to lose? and is that happens here nowdays in l2, expensive items, new expansions to implement another items fragments that need to make another item to finish the another item, and in the end, the first fragment item goes to events rewards , that give frag elcy ,frag kelbin, frag bloody stone etc, and it reduce u chance to get the final and main item . Detail.... p2w events only nowdays.

If u need to give all of this money to in the end try to win chat pvp in game, to full u ego in chat and "shut up" all enemys after 10 sec of pvp and BSOE, hahah we are all mad.

If u not put any $ in game, u gameplay experience expires in 60~90 days. gl
Numbers are totally incorrect and also some important items are missing.
Anyway players needs 2x equip (PVP, PVE), ofc there are some exceptions.
To miso. Don't get me wrong man. You did a great job.
I just wanted to say that those prices are far way too low for chronos real market. Yes if you want to sell stuff within 24h they could be reasonable, but still too low.

To Frithu. Yes if you want to be oneshotted by the first toon passing by every now and then for no reason at all and you enjoy laying on the pixel ground 24/24 your choice should be fine.
The problem is when you reach lvl 97. You know parnassus bum oneshotted someone bress you you want to say thanks but bum someone else oneshotted you then they bress you bum oneshotted.
And i'm talking about a pve clan. You know the ******ed barrumunk right?

Omen please ****. When I returned in here in 2016 you sold to me a monkey belt for 9.2. I told you are a scammer. Congratz you have lvled up from scammer to forum warrior now that your master is fleeing from one server to the other.

The ones who say I'm legit I've spent only 5.000 u.s. dolllars need an urgent mental check
1st because no one else in the world will spend 5.000 dollars for a videogame
2nd because he's lying. He joined in the best scenario in 2014 and now he' running around with more than 900 billions on his toon. Go to figute it out where he purchased all those billions.
The continent is the right one. But it's a diiferent country.
Hello sellers&rmters.

Last but not least I paid the monthly fee from 2004 to 2007 and all my toons were erased. Thank you NCfraud.
those 40k $ fists tho :D . **** this Miso want new house in Spain or smthin ? :D
And i'm talking about a pve clan. You know the ******ed barrumunk right?

how can u have trouble getting killed in a PVE clan? How ***ing bad can u be at this game? Lolz

Omen please ****. When I returned in here in 2016 you sold to me a monkey belt for 9.2. I told you are a scammer. Congratz you have lvled up from scammer to forum warrior now that your master is fleeing from one server to the other.

How does it make me a scammer if I sold a monkey belt and you wanted to buy it? Try that mental check u recommend to others on yourself maybe.


Last but not least I paid the monthly fee from 2004 to 2007 and all my toons were erased. Thank you NCfraud.
There were several warning by email before the wipe, if you didnt care, your own fault. Stop qqing about stoneold worthless chars mygod.

PS: I dunno why I keep replying to you.

No offense, but you're obviously a complete & utter idiot...
how can u have trouble getting killed in a PVE clan? How ***ing bad can u be at this game? Lolz

I was the one bressing other toons. Eg. Morwenna's clanmates AN members and the list goes on for 1 page. I've stopped bressing others in parna only because I finished the bress scrools, in 2 hours, and I had more than 200.
You know if you (me) are lvl 104 toon with a R99 +10 dark hv barrumunk will do to you (me) like 1 dmg x hit.

How does it make me a scammer if I sold a monkey belt and you wanted to buy it? Try that mental check u recommend to others on yourself maybe.

I don't know what scam does it mean for you.
For me scamming is when you sell a 7.5b item to a returning player that has asked you the right price for 9.2b. Perhaps in RS under Aizen's leadership that was normal.
I have done business with RS under Basa's leadership and you should know they called you a scammer.

There were several warning by email before the wipe, if you didnt care, your own fault. Stop qqing about stoneold worthless chars mygod.

Really. How I was supposed to be able to read those mails, referred to a videogame, while serving in the military in Lebanon with real bullets flying over my head?

The only thing that an official server shouldn't never ever do is a wipe.
But lets be honest. L2 NA is a private server.


No offense, but you're obviously a complete & utter idiot...

Thank you.

Lets make this crystal clear.
I've returned in here and I bought all the possible things that a returning player could buy spending like 15.000 euros = 17.400 u.s. dollars to gear up.
I have stopped playing because there is no possible reason in this universe that a software house, well a software house's private server, should sell items when it wants. In the real word an Ltd sells items when their customers want to buy them.
I've had enough to wait for elemental shirts.
I've had enough to wait for jewel caskets, and I bought them from you Omen with adenas for 42 billions in 3 days.
And the list goes on forever.
Your title says “to have fun”

Fun is based on the sole player and his experience, players can enjoy PvE as the best activity and some players would like to pvp 24/7 and that’s their main goal,

You prices are wayyy off then the current market on both Naia and Chronos, I agree that Chronos has a bigger market at this moment and prices are better but it’s much more competitive and you need to invest a lot more to not get rolled in pvp.

And on a side note each one of your “brackets” is estimated at diffent prices with different gear and usage but this type of comparison is different between classes, for example a tank doesn’t need to have lvl 6 jewels to be “god” as you might say, different classes have different scaling and survivability with some you can get more with less, and some require a high investment to see a 5% difference.

Your “Guide” is pointless since you try say “here this is a package deal use this” and that’s incorrect.

Don’t forget something that both $$ or Adena can’t buy, Hands.
I don't know what scam does it mean for you.
For me scamming is when you sell a 7.5b item to a returning player that has asked you the right price for 9.2b.

Look I dont remember each item I bought or sold a year ago. But how could I sell something to you above market price? I guess you're aware that prices are changing fast. For Monkey Belt for example market price was around 9 or 10 bil in the beginning of the event, much less when the event ran for a while.
In your words, everyone selling a blessed Valkas today for 40bil is a scammer too, because 2 months ago the price was 35 bil, a year ago the price was 25bil.
Face it, you're just dumb.


Perhaps in RS under Aizen's leadership that was normal.
I have done business with RS under Basa's leadership and you should know they called you a scammer.

Bullcrap & lies and I know noone in RS said that... The only person I ever scammed in L2 is myself several times, by setting wrong prices in buy- or sellshop. I never scammed anyone else, and believe me I had lots and lots of opportunities with lent gear etc.

So spread your trash gospel somewhere else :)
Lets make this crystal clear.
I've returned in here and I bought all the possible things that a returning player could buy spending like 15.000 euros = 17.400 u.s. dollars to gear up.
I have stopped playing because there is no possible reason in this universe that a software house, well a software house's private server, should sell items when it wants. In the real word an Ltd sells items when their customers want to buy them.
I've had enough to wait for elemental shirts.
I've had enough to wait for jewel caskets, and I bought them from you Omen with adenas for 42 billions in 3 days.
And the list goes on forever.
OMFG LOL! Just saw that edit you put in later....

So now some things suddenly make a lot of sense, your constant QQing about prices etc etc in each thread.
You really were dumb enough to put a fortune into this game, money you probably lack in RL, and you still remained a total nonfactor to top it all.

My condolences :( (Without irony)

But, man up and accept it u cant change that now anyway. It was your own stupidity and your own fault, not NCWest or anyone else's...

15.000 Euro, holy hell, I'm speechless....
Look I dont remember each item I bought or sold a year ago. But how could I sell something to you above market price? I guess you're aware that prices are changing fast. For Monkey Belt for example market price was around 9 or 10 bil in the beginning of the event, much less when the event ran for a while.
In your words, everyone selling a blessed Valkas today for 40bil is a scammer too, because 2 months ago the price was 35 bil, a year ago the price was 25bil.
Face it, you're just dumb.


Bullcrap & lies and I know noone in RS said that... The only person I ever scammed in L2 is myself several times, by setting wrong prices in buy- or sellshop. I never scammed anyone else, and believe me I had lots and lots of opportunities with lent gear etc.

So spread your trash gospel somewhere else :)

Omen who cares about what you say and what you sell.
You have scammed me. I deserved it trusting an unknown RS member thinking that all RS members are honest like Basa, Flinke, Dust and the like. Period.

To whoever is asking why the fu ck i'm still in here it's really simple.
I'm waiting for Neutron's farewell topic because it's impossible that someone is so du m b and wants to be fired up and tries to hide the decreasing number of active players raising the prices so all in all the total income it's the same. Period.
OMFG LOL! Just saw that edit you put in later....

So now some things suddenly make a lot of sense, your constant QQing about prices etc etc in each thread.
You really were dumb enough to put a fortune into this game, money you probably lack in RL, and you still remained a total nonfactor to top it all.

My condolences :( (Without irony)

But, man up and accept it u cant change that now anyway. It was your own stupidity and your own fault, not NCWest or anyone else's...

15.000 Euro, holy hell, I'm speechless....

Now you are resembling to me like a fake idiot aka you are trying to resemble to an idiot.
How it comes that we RS had the Newit's cloak, 50 euros each, for 6 months after the event went off. I've talked only about 1 30 day cloak.
Posting in a DH's topic i wrote "ask to Neutron who was the biggest donator in x 2016 month".
Don't let the others know how much we spent x month.
Period.

Edit: if you want to do so be free. I've already done the list.
But first explain to Over and the others which mobs drop 42 billions in ultimate jewelry boxes x day.
Period.

P.s. How it's possible that you are so L2 NA private server drugged that you arent' able to write the truth just for 1 time.
Baby Jesus Christ.
Look for what Draecke wrote on Rochard 10 months ago about L2 NA private server prices for God sake.

Since I'm sure you, Omen, will lie even on this one here it is so everyone can see it

https://imgur.com/a/SGG6j

And oh you'd better to watch out. Before moving to Chronos I had nothing to do with Nova
Now you are resembling to me like a fake idiot aka you are trying to resemble to an idiot.
How it comes that we RS had the Newit's cloak, 50 euros each, for 6 months after the event went off. I've talked only about 1 30 day cloak.
Posting in a DH's topic i wrote "ask to Neutron who was the biggest donator in x 2016 month".
Don't let the others know how much we spent x month.
Period.

Everyone can spend whatever he likes to, just some spendings are totally unhealthy, like for example yours.
About Nevit cloaks: I know most in RS bought them simply with adena....


Edit: if you want to do so be free. I've already done the list.
But first explain to Over and the others which mobs drop 42 billions in ultimate jewelry boxes x day.
Period.

But I already gave you that answer in the past, I think.

P.s. How it's possible that you are so L2 NA private server drugged that you arent' able to write the truth just for 1 time.
Baby Jesus Christ.
Look for what Draecke wrote on Rochard 4 months ago about L2 NA private server prices for God sake.
What truth u wanna hear?
What private server prices?

Look I know it is IMPOSSIBLE to get gear by "just playing the game". You have to find a way that works for you. L2Store, crafting, overenchanting, playing the market, trading, whateever.
All this isnt new. More or less it always was like that, from the very beginning. Always hard to get level, hard to get gear. That's the reason L2 stays interesting for many ppl for such a long time.

But even when I say that I must add right now there is a bloody imbalance and the drops in game need to be increased, badly, to close the gab and motivate players that dont have a way to gear themselves and not scare them all away instead.
I well remember Neutron promised he'll care for that, but instead under his aweful reign it all went down the drain even more...
Omen, listen. We have talked so many times that I can't even count.
I know that you aren't so bad, all in all.
I was a mid tier player. I wanted to be a top tier player joning Basa's CP but I couldn't do it. And it wasn't my fault.
I needed lvl 4 pvp jewels. Where could I buy them? Nowhere.
I bought them from you, and others, 8 months later.
I needed at least +7 elemental shirts. Where could I buy them? Nowhere.

That's the only, real, point.
To whoever wants to give it a go and try out on an L2 NA server you can't do it because NCWest won't allow you to compete before this game will be shutted down.
Look I know it is IMPOSSIBLE to get gear by "just playing the game". You have to find a way that works for you. L2Store, crafting, overenchanting, playing the market, trading, whateever.
All this isnt new. More or less it always was like that, from the very beginning. Always hard to get level, hard to get gear. That's the reason L2 stays interesting for many ppl for such a long time.

This is not true. Watching you spar with the dancing bear is a fun read, but don't spread fake news. It WAS possible before the L2 store to get gear and levels. It took work and that kept people engaged. Now they have removed these ability's. It's been well documented that it simply isn't a feasible feat to start this game today and play the game and work your way up without spending cash.


I well remember Neutron promised he'll care for that, but instead under his aweful reign it all went down the drain even more...

This is true..:(

I actually thought he was on the right track until the cloaks came out. Almost every event up until then, albeit they were cash shop promos, not actual events, looked like they were designed to attempt to lower the cost of gearing up some things for the lower end player.

- More broach jewel sales to add more lower level access to this item (clearly not enough but it was a start),
- shifting good event rewards to craft packs to flood the market with cheap R99 armor,
- Enchanting event to flood enchants into the market (we could use another),
- A second shirt sale,
- Red libra at least 2x so far this year (for the love of w/e mythological being you worship please don't spam +1 to this over and over here)
- Multiple exp boost settings and lowered cost for 200% runes a few times.

Add all that up and in theory there is less awesome for the whales and more access to us small fish.

Then we took a serious U-turn. NC or Neutron or whoever the **** makes piss poor decisions, decided to nose dive this bird. Now as we careen towards the ground, we can reflect on the activities starting with the cloaks.

Release a cash only item super powered cloaks that the whales get to take full advantage of, thus undoing whatever progress might have been made to this point, and then some.

Defraud mass players with the fishing rate scandal with bogus numbers, mathematically proven to be categorically false.

Reckless, hostile, nonsensical responses to the player base when we complained about these problems.

Server mergers, oh look, we are shrinking more, I do ever so wonder why?

Having to post multiple times that this game will last for many more years. Saying things repeatedly to assure people makes them more true I guess.

- Iraq has WMD's
- Putin hacked the DNC
- Terrorist brought down building 7
- We won't tax the middle class
- Butter is good for you
- Event rates are a trade secret
- Butter is bad for you
- Aliens don't exist
- North Korea Poses a threat
- Someone was profiting off of fishing in L2 in RL
- We can't afford single payer
...I could go on forever.

The stationary horse L2 store promo that did absolutely nothing.

The 13th anniversary that wasn't.

The next patch that may or may not come at some point in time that is not now, but won't be never. With the non existent release date, complete lack or PTR, and unknown changes, b/c we certainly cant expect a company to know wtf its going to do now can we.

So yeah, hes been of course for a while now.

-CS
This is not true. Watching you spar with the dancing bear is a fun read, but don't spread fake news. It WAS possible before the L2 store to get gear and levels. It took work and that kept people engaged. Now they have removed these ability's. It's been well documented that it simply isn't a feasible feat to start this game today and play the game and work your way up without spending cash.

I played on/off since C3 (more off), and from my personal point of view, the situation was always comparable to what it is now, for different reasons. I'll try to explain:

In C3 when I started, it was impossible for me to come close to "end game" or "end game gear". What kept me from reaching anything close to "endgame" ofc wasnt L2Store, it was simply time (and knowledge of the game too).
Many ppl. played for 5 or 10 hours a day. Others, like me, played for maybe 2 or 3 hours every other day. Impossible to catch up.

A while later, Ebay/RMT went rampant.
I never wanted to RMT or Ebay, so again, no chance for me or any "legit" player to catch up on gear by "just playing".

A while after that, everyone and their uncle used to bot in XP.
Again, never a chance to catch up on level to "end game" players if you were legit.

Now, the L2Store is here and some ppl. abuse it like there's no tomorrow. Again, no chance for a normal/legit player to reach Top end game or whatever you wanna call it.

For me, current situation is easier, since all L2Store stuff can be bought/sold with adena and I like to spend some of my time on aden market place. Of course I can never make adena as fast and as much as someone who just spends ridiculous amounts of $$$, but for me it's okay and I can upgrade my char piece by piece, I'm patient and I have fun IG.
I always had fun IG, in RMT age I had fun, in bot age, now in L2Store age.
Guess it's what you make out of it. If I wouldnt have fun playing, I simply would quit.

I hope it's more clear now what I meant and not just "fake news" ;)

I agree mostly or completely on everything else you've written.

Game has flaws but still its great; Neutron is doing a superbad job just as Conguero; Game needs more drops for the FTP-player base to keep ppl. motivated to play at all; Game needs to get rid of Adrena*in that starts spreading again as I hear, Game needs to become more n00bfriendly again; Game is Fun.
Neutron is doing a superbad job just as Conguero;
+1
Hello all,

I see many new comers asking "can I fit in?" and be competitive in order to enjoy Lineage 2. I am going to lay out exactly what the reality of today's Lineage 2 is for everyone to see. This is not going to a 100% accurate projections, but it will be close. All estimates are for level 99+ and margin of error with cost is +/- 10%. Setup is based on a melee character & LIVE, Main, Active Players. Shop characters and Storage Characters are not accounted for. Mages estimate won't be much different than this. Main class only. Item valuation based on CHRONOS SERVER.

#ECONOMICAL SETUP (You will be in 50% percentile of the players)

Weapon: Kelbim/Tauti Weapons [6b]
Armor: +6 R99 Armor Set [4b]
Earrings: Zaken [1.5b], Enhanced Octavis Earring [1b]
Necklace: Enhanced Octavis [0.5b]
Rings: Queen Ant Soul Ring [1b], Baium Soul Ring [2b]
Belt: R99 Belt [0.2b]
Brooch: Free 2 Slot Brooch During Event[0b]
Jewels: Lv3 Ruby [3b], Lv3 Diamond [2b]
Talisman: Longing [6b]
Shirt: Octavis Shirt [0.5b]
Agathion: Not Necessary/Free Agathion During Event [0b]
Cloak: Free Class Cloak [0b]
Hair Accessory: STR Accessory [0.1b]
Dyes: 15 STR Dyes [2b]
Misc: Weapon Auguments, SA...etc [2b]

TOTAL : 31b = $300



#PRO SETUP (You will be in 75% percentile of the players)

Weapon: +12 Bloody/Dark Weapons [30]
Armor: +8 Bloody/Dark Armor Set [40]
Earrings: Blessed Antharas [35], Blessed Zaken [1.5]
Necklace: Blessed Valakas [25]
Rings: Tauti Ring [10b], Baium Soul Ring [2]
Belt: Ekimus/Monkey [5]
Brooch: 4 Slot Brooch [4]
Jewels: Lv4 Ruby [15], Lv4 Diamond [12], Lv4 Obsidian [12], Lv4 Opa [12]
Talisman: Longing [6], Abundance Lv1 [5], Venir 14 [3]
Shirt: Shiny Shirt +7 [15]
Agathion: 3-Star [4]
Cloak: +7 PvE/PvP [5]
Hair Accessory: STR+P.Atk [3]
Dyes: 15 STR Legendary Dyes [6]
Misc: Weapon Auguments, SA, Armor OE, Accessory OE...etc [10]

TOTAL : 260b = $2600



#TOP END SETUP (You will be in 95% percentile of the players)

Weapon: +15 Bloody/Dark Weapons [90]
Armor: +10 Dark Armor Set [80]
Earrings: Blessed Antharas [35], Lindvior Earrings [60]
Necklace: Blessed Valakas [25]
Rings: Tauti Ring [10], Ruler's Authority Ring [60]
Belt: Ruler's Authority Belt [40]
Brooch: 5 Slot Brooch [6]
Jewels: Lv5 Ruby [200], Lv5 Diamond [150], Lv5 Obsidian [150], Lv5 Opa [150], Lv5 Tanzanite [200]
Talisman: Insanity [40], Seven Sign [6b], Abundance Lv4 [20], Venir 16 [8]
Shirt: Shiny Shirt +8 [20]
Agathion: 4-Star [8]
Cloak: +10 PvE/PvP [15]
Hair Accessory: STR+P.Atk [3]
Dyes: 15 STR+CHAR Dyes [15]
Misc: Weapon Auguments, SA, Armor OE, Accessory OE, Skill OE...etc [50]

TOTAL : 1400 = $14,000



#GOD MODE SETUP (You are THE Number #1 and people know who you are)

Weapon: Dragon Weapon Stage 2 [4000+]
Armor: +12 Dark Armor Set [150]
Earrings: Blessed Antharas [35], Lindvior Earrings [60]
Necklace: Blessed Valakas [25]
Rings: Tauti Ring [10], Ruler's Authority Ring [60]
Belt: Ruler's Authority Belt [40]
Brooch: 6 Slot Brooch [50]
Jewels: Lv6 Ruby [400], Lv6 Diamond [300], Lv6 Obsidian [300], Lv6 Red Cats [1000], Lv6 Tanzanite [400], Lv6 Amethyst [500]
Talisman: Insanity [40], Seven Sign [60], Abundance Lv4 [20], Venir 16 [8]
Shirt: Shiny Shirt +10 [200]
Agathion: 5-Star [30]
Cloak: +20 PvE/PvP [1000]
Hair Accessory: STR+P.Atk [3]
Dyes: 15 STR+CHAR Dyes [50]
Misc: Weapon Auguments, SA, Armor OE, Accessory OE, Skill OE...etc [200]

TOTAL : 8500b = $85,000

Conclusion : There is an exponential gain in cost after about 75% percentile, which the cost of gear will be around $5000. If you want to exceed this "sweet spot", you will have to start paying a lot more to climb up and gains will be slower and slower.

Edited 10.31.2017

I thought propaganda of Lineage2 was "Free to Play"
i thought propaganda of lineage2 was "free to play"

savage!