Without further ado, Lineage II: Salvation is launching on Thursday, December 7.
There will be no maintenance tomorrow, Wednesday, December 6. The game will go down on Thursday for the update and the regularly scheduled maintenance.
In the meantime, please enjoy the localized trailer available here:
Without further ado, Lineage II: Salvation is launching on Thursday, December 7.
There will be no maintenance tomorrow, Wednesday, December 6. The game will go down on Thursday for the update and the regularly scheduled maintenance.
In the meantime, please enjoy the localized trailer available here:
How to do the bigest ******** ever ? Say to your players that you will do the update "soon", then for 3 months say "we are still compiling the patch note" ... Then give a elementary school translation of this patch note done in 10 minutes. And annonce the update 3 days after the release of partial patch note ...
You really don't care at all about your players right ?
Cool, I suppose we'll have one more day of aliens out there in the world.
As well I suppose we'll have Red Libra on the way.
Anyway, the Soon™ word has never been so effective in a short time in these companies.
Thanks for the effort.
It's been an insane few weeks. We were aiming to announce the date last week, but missing information and some issues that occurred prevented us from announcing until... today.
It's been an insane few weeks. We were aiming to announce the date last week, but missing information and some issues that occurred prevented us from announcing until... today.
Without further ado, Lineage II: Salvation is launching on Thursday, December 7.
There will be no maintenance tomorrow, Wednesday, December 6. The game will go down on Thursday for the update and the regularly scheduled maintenance.
In the meantime, please enjoy the localized trailer available here:
I'm sorry, but this is not how things are done. Announcing a date 2 days before the actual launch is unacceptable! Specially when there's no actual viable patch notes and there's even no answer to the questions about the preliminary patch notes! There's no justification for something like this!
I'm sorry, but this is not how things are done. Announcing a date 2 days before the actual launch is unacceptable! Specially when there's no actual viable patch notes and there's even no answer to the questions about the preliminary patch notes! There's no justification for something like this!
I'm very disappointed.
All Max noobs change his hero's for 1k points and lost 74k points for each hero.
It's been an insane few weeks. We were aiming to announce the date last week, but missing information and some issues that occurred prevented us from announcing until... today.
Thanks to all Ncsoft staff for pushing this update with red libra out before the end of the year.
Hime, can you please tell me if personal fame gets deleted? Knight epaluettes from fortresses get deleted? If yes, are any of them compensated? I read preliminary patch notes, but haven't found info on it. Clear up these rumors for me please. Thank you <3
Hime, can you please tell me if personal fame gets deleted? Knight epaluettes from fortresses get deleted? If yes, are any of them compensated? I read preliminary patch notes, but haven't found info on it. Clear up these rumors for me please. Thank you <3
Not hime, but from other regions: Epaulettes not deleted.
Fame deleted, ppls have compensation, but i can't write what compensation, bcos don't understand info from Korea (at RU\EU not find any adequate info about that).
Think, better come to aden to Rapidus and exchange all ur Fame for EAR.
I don't get all these complaints. It's a free game, you don't like it, go play something else. Also, anyone with half a brain (=googlers) could already see what's happening in Korea for more than a year, just a matter of time before these changes hit NCWest.
There's a huge cultural difference between US and Korea.. So lower your expectations a bit and just... play the game. :)
I'm sorry, but this is not how things are done. Announcing a date 2 days before the actual launch is unacceptable! Specially when there's no actual viable patch notes and there's even no answer to the questions about the preliminary patch notes! There's no justification for something like this!
if you only announced an exact date for this update we wont have this problem.
a major update dont come in surprises would u agree? this should STILL be announced even though all players knew it was coming. u missed out on this part BIG TIME. GZ! :mad:
Very likely. The server needs to go down for the leadership transfer so it'll happen this Thursday instead of tomorrow.
Hime? sorry, but as i see only you answer and had communicate with gamers.
You're not a NC slave? Where others, as i know - you work about other project (or i wrong?)
Where Neutron,etc?
Its not about complaining....Its just this game, over the years, become a luxury game to play threfore our expectation, my expectation, is set at a high lvl.
Its like you pay ticket first class in a jet airplane and when you arrive at airport they put you in a propeller airplane....you just feel a bitter taste in mouth.
I will say it again, totally unprofesional, totally dispointed your work for this update and last months...If I were your boss I would fire you long ago.
Pls put yourself together and start do your job at the lvl you ask the money form players!
Ps: For Neutron, Do you know your servers will get Salvation update tomorow? :D
Ps: Do any of ncwest staff know what we will get with this update? Since no presentation website, no patch files.....
Ps: You will hide again to avoid player answers?
I wish I could say I am excited for this update, I do see a few good things about it, but I can't be excited since I am a tank.
Best I can tell, the update is removing 12 Tank skills and removing roughly another 9 skills only replacing them with what will probably be +0 un-enchanted skills.
I know I am not the only one who feels nauseous and very upset by this, it might not be such a big deal if most of my skills being deleted or changed are +15 and +17.... -ALOT- of adena over time went into Over enchanting those skills... lots of fails to get to the over enchant they are now, I am assuming the skills that are basically getting a rename along with stat change are going to be reset to +0 and the ones deleted completely will have no compensation. Please tell me I am wrong....
I pray I am wrong.
Hime, please suggest compensation for atleast the renamed skills or retaining the Enchant on them, However with the beating it looks like for us tanks, I think we deserve compensation for the deleted over enchanted skills as well as the renamed ones... This is a huge nerf, I don't think tanks needed a nerf, they needed a boost if anything. Olympiad is really going to blow now especially (hope I am wrong)
Thanks for the Read Hime.
P.S. I think iss's should get compensation as well for any enchants they loose due to changes on skills.
Not hime, but from other regions: Epaulettes not deleted.
Fame deleted, ppls have compensation, but i can't write what compensation, bcos don't understand info from Korea (at RU\EU not find any adequate info about that).
Think, better come to aden to Rapidus and exchange all ur Fame for EAR.
Thx!
About Epaulettes, they are still used to buy those new Fort/castle Talismans? Or you buy them with adena or something else?
About Epaulettes, they are still used to buy those new Fort/castle Talismans? Or you buy them with adena or something else?
as i see before, we take 31/05 update.... but, NC managers says "we take update" idk about that.
if 31/05 fix - available all, as before
if new - (at future updates in Korea - they deleted).
//summon Yuidao
btw, in (1)Salvation i place info about fame,etc. wall of text, but, you take all infos about daily coins,etc
Without further ado, Lineage II: Salvation is launching on Thursday, December 7.
There will be no maintenance tomorrow, Wednesday, December 6. The game will go down on Thursday for the update and the regularly scheduled maintenance.
In the meantime, please enjoy the localized trailer available here:
as i see before, we take 31/05 update.... but, NC managers says "we take update" idk about that.
if 31/05 fix - available all, as before
if new - (at future updates in Korea - they deleted).
//summon Yuidao
I wish I could say I am excited for this update, I do see a few good things about it, but I can't be excited since I am a tank.
Best I can tell, the update is removing 12 Tank skills and removing roughly another 9 skills only replacing them with what will probably be +0 un-enchanted skills.
I know I am not the only one who feels nauseous and very upset by this, it might not be such a big deal if most of my skills being deleted or changed are +15 and +17.... -ALOT- of adena over time went into Over enchanting those skills... lots of fails to get to the over enchant they are now, I am assuming the skills that are basically getting a rename along with stat change are going to be reset to +0 and the ones deleted completely will have no compensation. Please tell me I am wrong....
I pray I am wrong.
Hime, please suggest compensation for atleast the renamed skills or retaining the Enchant on them, However with the beating it looks like for us tanks, I think we deserve compensation for the deleted over enchanted skills as well as the renamed ones... This is a huge nerf, I don't think tanks needed a nerf, they needed a boost if anything. Olympiad is really going to blow now especially (hope I am wrong)
Thanks for the Read Hime.
P.S. I think iss's should get compensation as well for any enchants they loose due to changes on skills.
WTB Flameshield for NcSoft employees after this update tomorrow. You think fishing debacle was bad? How about deleting +10/20 skills with ZERO compensation. Holy moly.
WTB Flameshield for NcSoft employees after this update tomorrow. You think fishing debacle was bad? How about deleting +10/20 skills with ZERO compensation. Holy moly.
I wouldn't hold to that very much. In RU and today in EU these skills were deleted and there is no compensation for them. They say that compensation is due only if those were reset, but they are completely removed. It's like demanding compensation for the old +30 skills ppl had.
To be honest, it might not sound fair, but it has don't logic to it. Play the game and you'll eventually get the new ones to the same point.
I wouldn't hold to that very much. In RU and today in EU these skills were deleted and there is no compensation for them. They say that compensation is due only if those were reset, but they are completely removed. It's like demanding compensation for the old +30 skills ppl had.
To be honest, it might not sound fair, but it has don't logic to it. Play the game and you'll eventually get the new ones to the same point.
I hope when they do Tyr update (doubt it like wynn :D) they change name to several skills and do.. well... almost nothing to them?? XD and reset not refunding.
The point here is this new skill, some are the same crap, even worse than before.....
For sure, next week, we will have some black friday sales related to skill enchantment :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
this is my happiest day of this year :D, nothing can ruin it even if my sos go useless, will still smiling :D
Last day before update, probable last tauti with so fast kill, 1 min, and i pick 1 tauti ring :D, probable i pick the last tauti ring before update :D on naia :D
Have a nice day guys :D and wish you so happy day like mine now :D
Your work on this major update look like one 15 years old guy made his homework the last 3 days before the deadlines, when his teachers gave him them 3 months ago.
Poor quality, no communication, ZERO anticipation ... You gave us a lot of hope with the previous update. Maybe everything wasn't perfect, but at least you was in communication with us. Answering to our questions, posted preliminary patch note around 1 month before the realease date ..
It's really really disapointing for profesionnal ppl. This work quality is okay for private servers, personnal projects or even amator projects .. But certainly not profesionnal.
I wish I could say I am excited for this update, I do see a few good things about it, but I can't be excited since I am a tank.
Best I can tell, the update is removing 12 Tank skills and removing roughly another 9 skills only replacing them with what will probably be +0 un-enchanted skills.
I know I am not the only one who feels nauseous and very upset by this, it might not be such a big deal if most of my skills being deleted or changed are +15 and +17.... -ALOT- of adena over time went into Over enchanting those skills... lots of fails to get to the over enchant they are now, I am assuming the skills that are basically getting a rename along with stat change are going to be reset to +0 and the ones deleted completely will have no compensation. Please tell me I am wrong....
I pray I am wrong.
Hime, please suggest compensation for atleast the renamed skills or retaining the Enchant on them, However with the beating it looks like for us tanks, I think we deserve compensation for the deleted over enchanted skills as well as the renamed ones... This is a huge nerf, I don't think tanks needed a nerf, they needed a boost if anything. Olympiad is really going to blow now especially (hope I am wrong)
Thanks for the Read Hime.
P.S. I think iss's should get compensation as well for any enchants they loose due to changes on skills.
I understand the concern. Details of the skill changes will be clarified in the final patch notes. Neutron is working on them now and they will be in a more readable format sometime later today. Fingers crossed.
It is a re-balance so things will be different. I can't tell you everything will be OK, but all we ask is you read the notes (when available), try it out in game tomorrow, and then let us know your thoughts on what works and what doesn't.
Will enhanced shadow weapons be tradeable this time at red libra?
Unfortunately, not. We can ask if it can be added in the next Red Libra iteration.
I'm so disapointed with NcSoft work actually ...
Your work on this major update look like one 15 years old guy made his homework the last 3 days before the deadlines, when his teachers gave him them 3 months ago.
Poor quality, no communication, ZERO anticipation ... You gave us a lot of hope with the previous update. Maybe everything wasn't perfect, but at least you was in communication with us. Answering to our questions, posted preliminary patch note around 1 month before the realease date ..
It's really really disapointing for profesionnal ppl. This work quality is okay for private servers, personnal projects or even amator projects .. But certainly not profesionnal.
You give too much credit to a 15 year old. :p But yes, I would agree handling of this update has not been a good reflection on us. I jumped on this project half way through and there were a lot of issues already. The issues continue to compound delaying proper communication and promotion of this update. Of course it should not be like this, and as you mentioned our previous updates weren't like this. The Salvation update is not the standard you should hold us to and we will do better.
The Salvation update is not the standard you should hold us to and we will do better.
Is there a reason you are forcing an update you are not ready for? Several past updates were not even close to a perfectly executed affair, this one is not even worth mentioning.
Is there a reason you are forcing an update you are not ready for? Several past updates were not even close to a perfectly executed affair, this one is not even worth mentioning.
Everything we've done for the last two months was planned for tomorrow. Last week, we were ready to announce the date, but we came across last minute files that needed verification. We cleared it up... yesterday thus the short notice announcement.
It's been rough, and I apologize everybody else had to see and ensure that as well.
Everything we've done for the last two months was planned for tomorrow. Last week, we were ready to announce the date, but we came across last minute files that needed verification. We cleared it up... yesterday thus the short notice announcement.
It's been rough, and I apologize everybody else had to see and ensure that as well.
So the patch notes are being prepared for 2 months?
Also NC Soft Team obviously knew exact date of Salvation launch for at least 2 months and thinks its appropriate to anounce it 2 days in advance, this only reflects on what kind of people are running the show.
Everything we've done for the last two months was planned for tomorrow. Last week, we were ready to announce the date, but we came across last minute files that needed verification. We cleared it up... yesterday thus the short notice announcement.
It's been rough, and I apologize everybody else had to see and ensure that as well.
u shouldve still announced the date while verifying the BS u were talking about!
I know you guys try the best, not just 1 update, you guys add 2, that a lot work.
I have only 2 question
1. Is there something between retri "2 handed mage blunt" and Tyrr Titan and Spirit of Shilen skill? work this combination same like now? or will be have different in damage?
2. i see we get new quest for tauti, this quest can complete only with awakened class, or any class? even 3rd class to?
I know you guys try the best, not just 1 update, you guys add 2, that a lot work.
I have only 2 question
1. Is there something between retri "2 handed mage blunt" and Tyrr Titan and Spirit of Shilen skill? work this combination same like now? or will be have different in damage?
2. i see we get new quest for tauti, this quest can complete only with awakened class, or any class? even 3rd class to?
Hi! Here's the final patch notes. I hope it answers your questions, but if not, let me know. I try to find out!
I know you guys try the best, not just 1 update, you guys add 2, that a lot work.
I have only 2 question
1. Is there something between retri "2 handed mage blunt" and Tyrr Titan and Spirit of Shilen skill? work this combination same like now? or will be have different in damage?
2. i see we get new quest for tauti, this quest can complete only with awakened class, or any class? even 3rd class to?
1. These changes happened to recently in korea and shouldn't hit us with this update (as far as I know) so you don't have to worry about this now.
2. I'm not sure about this one but from my experience, this kind of quest is universal and doesn't have any restriction beside the level requirement, so your sos should still be safe.
To Hime,
the way you guys work on updates seems to be very randomly affected by the files you receive.
Do NCKorea just send you files whenever they feel like without telling you? It seems like they just throw things at you and just let you deal with it by yourselves...
More than the time taken for the update to be ready, I'm really frustrated by the lack of information we get, we're absolutely out of the blue most of the time... Thank god we have the rochand bord and their contributors to give us some insight on what's coming for us. But that should never be the only way for us to get update informations.
Other sections of the forum are pretty much deserted and some of our hopes don't meet teir expectations (somthing something Grand crusade Lab tests). When a community feels so neglected that they need to remind you everyday, something needs to be changed.
However I noticed and appreciate your recent activity in here but seeing the absence of Neutron feels like you're haveing the dirty job of talking with us all by yourself.
I hope for some improvements in the future. Good luck
PS: Will we see the musketeer appearance ever again?
there's quite some information missing with regards to the agathions, what will happen to the existing 1* (Faint) through 5* (Blessed) Zodiac agathions - be that perma or shadow versions ?
will we get the same patch for those as happened in Korea ? NCWest has the same agathion system as Korea unlike, as I mentioned before on other Salvation related topics, the Japan/China/Taiwan/RU/EU Regions whom had a different agathion system then us..
please advise if we will get the Korean version where all existing zodiac agathions automatically gets updated to their corresponding new versions or if not when will this fix be implemented ?
just like in Korea most of these items where bought with NCoins so it's only logical to expect we will get the same treatment as they did in this particular case.
edit: have also reposted this on the new agathion topic as it needs answering.. Korean Dev team giving us the same update as the other Export Regions when that's not compatible nor comparable is bad practise
Prophecy of Might - The physical/magic/skill critical chance and power of a selected party member increases by 25% for 5 mins. Once casted, your defense/magic attack increase by 15% and glaring is applied and the reuse time for Prophecy of Might is reset.
You have changed the effect or is it another mistake in translations, because the original one is supposed to increase P/M attack, there is no defence increase on it. :confused:
There is alot of information about the new clan system that's missing. On the russian servers they presented to the public 26 pages patch notes only explaining the new clan system, and u gave us 2 pages that explain not more than 5% of the total information.
Also you write The amount of clan fame earned from winning the fortress siege was adjusted to 10,000 points. But with the new changes to the clans and the crazy amount of CRP needed to lvl up the clans, isn't it a little unfair for you to reduce the CRP rewards? If i remember correct the reward from winning a fortress should be 40,000, not 10k.. you won't give us with a table about CRP rewards from winning sieges, olympiad, coc and etc.?
PS. 20 pages became 38, but i dont think there is 18 pages worth of information added to them, there is very little extra added and the rest is just organizing it better and changing the font size to increase the amount of pages.. Sorry..., but its still poor job :/
Missed some stuff on the patch notes:
- Info on the random respawn time changes on the raid bosses. (Particularly on how will they be applied) Not in the patch notes, what does that mean?
- Info on the changes on the fishing system (if there is any) and the agathion system. Isee the changes on the agathions, but what about the fishing rewards? Still the same?
- Info on what will happen to the enchants on removed skills. (If they will get the corespondent amount of immortal chapter 1 books or the enchant transfer s to the new added related skill)We are not talking about 3 or 4 bil investments lost... each +10 skill costs about 10-15b, maybe more!
- Info on what will happen to the clan skills/CRP that the current clans have. (will there be any clan fame rewards for having them?)Nothing on the patch notes either.
- (might be wrong) Wasn't it supposed to be a multi-server Raid boss? If so, where are the info on it?Still nothing about it on patch notes.
Plus some clarification on this line:
" Similar to before, the Final Ultimate Defense skill’s effect is being changed to a skill that can limit the maximum damage."
Does that mean it will be like before? Or will it be changed after? Because the cap damage makes all the difference, without it the skill is kinda pointless. (the cap damage itself makes all the rest of the things irrelevant, as pdef/mdef and received criticals won't matter)
Stating my opinion, it does seem the tank class will be heavily nerfed, being the opposite of what this changes were all about.
An update on this please.
There is an answer to that already.
No compensation for any skill on any class.In all theories who got the update, verified on Innova.
FUD is like the old UDs, no more dmg cap, but the stats of the UD depends on your own defense.
Don't expect info on how the raids will be randomized, but sooner or later you'll find out anyway.
Fishing is useless for now, since the seed agathion system seems half-baked in our version.
@Neutron
Is the Rudolph Agathion really removed?Or it's the other version of it removed, which required leafs to cast it's skill?
There is an answer to that already.
No compensation for any skill on any class.In all theories who got the update, verified on Innova.
FUD is like the old UDs, no more dmg cap, but the stats of the UD depends on your own defense.
Don't expect info on how the raids will be randomized, but sooner or later you'll find out anyway.
Fishing is useless for now, since the seed agathion system seems half-baked in our version.
@Neutron
Is the Rudolph Agathion really removed?Or it's the other version of it removed, which required leafs to cast it's skill?
in patch note says that rudolph agathion will be transform into a charm.
Thouse charms you put on the seed bracelet that will be available....
So no change to rudolph, an extreme pay to win boost btw .. XD
What about the nerf of the MP Barrier in fehos?
They only have the improvements?
Feoh's MP Barrier was not changed on Korea, and it will be not changed here.
IDK who told You, that Embody Mana will be changed.
U are still crying, that feoh is OP, assimilate.... feoh was one shoot toon w/o dmg. Why u are not crying about Othels? or Yuls
If i good remember, Koreans changed Feoh's toogles to be cancelable, but not this update.
About improvements
This Updated included Grand Crusade part 2, and this patch they implement some balance between feohs clases. StS will be still ToP PvP Feoh... so in 95% cases nothing will change.
Guys :) for me game update should balance game play and add new game content to get more fun from playing :P what we get here is mostly refill game filesto get closer to other countrys version so new l2store "promos" can be applayed also on NA servers :P