Letters Event - Give me a "C"

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87 clannies online, hundreds of letters, zero Cs ... just thought I 'd share in case somebody forgot to add it to the droplist again :)
87 clannies online, hundreds of letters, zero Cs ... just thought I 'd share in case somebody forgot to add it to the droplist again :)

A least you can play! my client won't update! *attacks* XD
to saruon you download the pts to live conversion and does that it might be faster,


and to the OP, same here, it seem that "5" and "c" dont drop yet.
i got 5s but no C ether.
could it be only specific mobs drop C and 5? :x
to saruon you download the pts to live conversion and does that it might be faster,


and to the OP, same here, it seem that "5" and "c" dont drop yet.

that would require downloading the pts and it would be about the same amount of time as the regular client download tried it..: o
I've gotten 67 A's, no C's and 1 5 lol etc... :p
to saruon you download the pts to live conversion and does that it might be faster,


and to the OP, same here, it seem that "5" and "c" dont drop yet.
of course they drop.

Just at 1/10000 of normal rate
well i got the 2 other words a couple times now...

but still no C :P

1st try 2x high ls 76 then only stones + juices >.<
but nice drop rate, even in catacombs.
Gragia dosnt have a C in it! So nope no C ingame :rolleyes:


But seriosly no C drop here either ><
I got about 11 5's today and 0 c's. Pretty sad if they forgot to put them in.
They forgot to put the C in indeed. Pretty stupid :)
Yup, seems the "5" is ultra rare and the "C" is so ridiculously rare that nobody I talked to got one yet.
I have turned in

11XLINEAGE II nothing but juices

7X5YEARS juices and a pig hat(not tradeable) but pretty cool. Doesn't do anything that I know of though except look odd on a LE.

So in the 2 hours I played I got over 100ea of A, L, I, 30-40 of all the other letters except II, 5, and C. Have gotten 11=II, 7=5 and 0=C.

Hopefully I'll have better luck tomorrow after work. I imagine by the time I get off work there will be thousands of letters for sale in Giran.
there are no C >< Some one would have confirmed a C letter drop already.
Yeah no Cs are dropping ... I m having a Deja Vu :(
Many many of the other Letters/Numbers but no C either. I have completed the other words dozens of times now, but no C =(
I don't care for a C... as a matter of fact, better if C doesn't exist... thats an extra chance of getting a 5 (I'm aiming for the AQ ^^)
I don't care for a C... as a matter of fact, better if C doesn't exist... thats an extra chance of getting a 5 (I'm aiming for the AQ ^^)

OMG yes, dont put C in and double drop rate for AQ letters!
OMG yes, dont put C in and double drop rate for AQ letters!
Good luck with that, best I have gotten so far is a pig hat.
that's luck... I mean, either you get it or not... so, enjoy your pg hat ^^ I will enjoy the miserable power juices I got XD but I will keep trying to get my AQ... this might be the only chance I have to actually put my hands on a boss jewel :P
that's luck... I mean, either you get it or not... so, enjoy your pg hat ^^ I will enjoy the miserable power juices I got XD but I will keep trying to get my AQ... this might be the only chance I have to actually put my hands on a boss jewel :P
Same here I will still be trying to get a boss jewel myself. I knows the odds are bad but who cares it's still fun.
Why can't illeterate chars spell "GRASIA" and "5IEARS"??? :-(

Atm still no C and only one Y dropped, while I had 3 "5"... :(
in a couple hours
5 5, 4 s, 5 II.... no C
rarer than a frintezza earring drop from an elphy or they don't drop imo
I had twice a C already. Hunting in ketra.
I had twice a C already. Hunting in ketra.

You 're probably the only person in NA ... no C's in my alliance
Yay Soe:Oren from LineageII ;)
NO "C" here either, 2 hrs in Pavel Ruins got enough to make 11 LineageII and 5 5 years lol but no Gracia for me....
I petitioned a GM and he basiclly said that the C had a very low chance of drop :D
But he is still monetering the droprate if something is wrong.

Pretty good drop rate on LINEAGEII xp about 3 hours and turned in 6 Lineage2 and 2 5years.
jester hat here and no C's droped yet either
the drop rate is again lower since yesterday night. Just like every event, the first launch day they drop like "hell". And the day after...its so hard that you get any event drop that the only thing to do is selling all the items gathered until de end of the event. At least for me.
I petitioned a GM and he basiclly said that the C had a very low chance of drop :D
But he is still monetering the droprate if something is wrong.

Pretty good drop rate on LINEAGEII xp about 3 hours and turned in 6 Lineage2 and 2 5years.


usually items rate drop goes with the rarity of rewarding items, but gracia only give best is Orfen which is nonsense.

at least we all can make the word for AQ. which is good.

beside that reward list does not include TOP stone lv 76 which i received one.

usually event like this, the bots are hurting us.
There are will not be any Cs dropped for the first few days.... until someone figures out the drop ratio for the Cs was put in wrong. Then there will be a "Maintenance" period to fix it and we will all move on as happy as we can be.
wtt 5 to s on luna ;p
did 5 or 6 lineageII and 1 5years, got juice and a water stone.... no Cs
Seems we will be having a "Maintenance" period to fix the incorrect drop rate for the Cs and missing gatekeeper gifts. We can now move on to the next topic to complain about.
seems we will be having a "maintenance" period to fix the incorrect drop rate for the cs and missing gatekeeper gifts. We can now move on to the next topic to complain about.

ha xd
I gotta be just plain unlucky. I have been grinding for two to three hours, and I still havent gotten a "5" and only one Y.

Event is working though...SV is pretty crowded, enough so that ppl are staking claims and complaining when you come too close.
I gotta be just plain unlucky. I have been grinding for two to three hours, and I still havent gotten a "5" and only one Y.

Event is working though...SV is pretty crowded, enough so that ppl are staking claims and complaining when you come too close.

same here so I stoped XD spelled lineage II one time thought I was so lucky! than when I turned it in all I got was a evasion juice...lol
Spelled:
7 LineageII
2 5Years
0 Gracia (Never got a C)

Got.. SOEs, potions.. and 3 BREZ.
I had twice a C already. Hunting in ketra.


Nobody in L2 NA got a C except this guy ^^

hu hu
Oooppsss...Server coming down in 15 minutes for 2 hours. On a Wednesday night? Here comes the "C"'s???
Nobody in L2 NA got a C except this guy ^^

hu hu

well i got a "c" and others get a queen ant ring... :p
well i got a "c" and others get a queen ant ring... :p

Tbh you get an F but anyways
Oooppsss...Server coming down in 15 minutes for 2 hours. On a Wednesday night? Here comes the "C"'s???

Banhammer. ;)

Some were stupid enough to start botting. ^^
Well maybe it is all about the birthday window some players got during they login ;)
Spelled :

14 lineage2
8 5years

1 Queen ant
after all other try it s juice
No i forgot >2 Brez

but it s ok .

I never drop a C
Oooppsss...Server coming down in 15 minutes for 2 hours. On a Wednesday night? Here comes the "C"'s???

30 minutes not 2 hours, at least our announcement said 30 minutes ...
I hope they will update the website with the CURRENT gracia FINAL info. The web site iss still on part 2 everywhere -_-'
30 minutes not 2 hours, at least our announcement said 30 minutes ...

It was 2 hours when they first announced it, but somehow it got changed to 30mins o:
30 minutes not 2 hours, at least our announcement said 30 minutes ...


Down time is 2 hours IN 30 minutes they say..
I've been hunting same spot for 6 hrs today, it seemed to me that the drop rate was depending on the time of the day, during the first 3 hrs I had one letter every 3 mobs apx, and for the last 3 hrs it dropped only every 5-6 mobs...
Down time is 2 hours IN 30 minutes they say..

We ve had 3 announcements all said server downtime 30 minutes ... so ....
Like always, 1st day perfect drop rate and the day after it sux so hard than the only good solution is to selling all that event stuff to take any profit of this if you didnt got a queen ant already on the 1st day ;)
We ve had 3 announcements all said server downtime 30 minutes ... so ....

we will see in 30 min

maybe its depending on the server..
"Lineage II will be conducting a short maintenance on all servers at 5:00pm Central Time on Thursday, April 29. Servers are expected to be down for approximately thirty (30) minutes. Thank you for your patience and understanding."


And as always no reason explained... :rolleyes:
we will see in 30 min

maybe its depending on the server..

Teon down.
"Lineage II will be conducting a short maintenance on all servers at 5:00pm Central Time on Thursday, April 29. Servers are expected to be down for approximately thirty (30) minutes. Thank you for your patience and understanding."


And as always no reason explained... :rolleyes:


Lineage II will be conducting a short maintenance on all servers <-- That is all the reason they need to give.... covers anything they need to do, like BANHAMMER stuff or fix drop rates that were messed up, remove exploits and turn up the glow on red sphere on those using botter apps. Good times for all.
Weird they have to shutdown the server twice in a day unless something needs to be fix asap, we probably will never know the real reason behind thought.
Oooppsss...Server coming down in 15 minutes for 2 hours. On a Wednesday night? Here comes the "C"'s???
Most likely the drop rate will be lessened... or as ncsoft likes to say, changed to the proper amount so it will be working as intended ;)

Hopefully they will actually do work(tm), because I saw quite a fewbots today which has never happened in any other major update...
My guess is someone found a exploit and got caught... this fits in with the banhammer :P
i hope redarmy of aria is finally given the QQ's they deserve
4 "5Years" - gave me juices and 2 Divine Stones.
6 "Lineage2" - gave me juices, 1 Dark Stone and an SOE to gludio.
0 "Gracia" - no C's dropped for me.

All in all, a very profitable event so far :)
4 "5Years" - gave me juices and 2 Divine Stones.
6 "Lineage2" - gave me juices, 1 Dark Stone and an SOE to gludio.
0 "Gracia" - no C's dropped for me.

All in all, a very profitable event so far :)

YOu had done more profit if you had sell all those letters :p
YOu had done more profit if you had sell all those letters :p

Somehow I doubt I could make 45m selling "II's" and "5's" on Aria when the 'regular' price of them was something stupid like 300k :P
Somehow I doubt I could make 45m selling "II's" and "5's" on Aria when the regular price of them was something stupid like 300k :P

15 mil, IIs.. and 5 mil, Ss.
15 mil, IIs.. and 5 mil, Ss.

What server? lol..
IIs I doubt they sell for more than 50k ... 5s may be expensive though
What server? lol..

Teon \o/ I made 50kk already from my letters! :p "II" = 10kk & "S", "Y" = 5kk. Others around 2 and 1kk. easy-cheesy
Teon \o/ I made 50kk already from my letters! :p

Haha, I could have guessed; Teon is the server that thinks a gazillion adena is a reasonable price for a lvl 12 crystal :P
Haha, I could have guessed; Teon is the server that thinks a gazillion adena is a reasonable price for a lvl 12 crystal :P

Well it worked and that is what counts :p Now its harder..before i logged out i saw guys selling them for 1kk max and most under 1kk...so now it wont work maybe anymore...The same works with KE.
Teon \o/ I made 50kk already from my letters! :p "II" = 10kk & "S", "Y" = 5kk. Others around 2 and 1kk. easy-cheesy

What are you smoking? IIs on teon sell for under 100k not 10kk.
What are you smoking? IIs on teon sell for under 100k not 10kk.

Well thats now buddy, I sold mine today morning for those prices and not even 10min passed they buyed them all toad.
Well thats now buddy, I sold mine today morning for those prices and not even 10min passed they buyed them all toad.

They 've been selling at 100k since yesterday but I m sure you made many imaginary millions. The only rare letters are 5 and C followed by S. And C is rare because nobody got one, and a page ago you claimed you got two so I call bull**** on pretty much everything you say .
They 've been selling at 100k since yesterday but I m sure you made many imaginary millions. The only rare letters are 5 and C followed by S. And C is rare because nobody got one, and a page ago you claimed you got two so I call bull**** on pretty much everything you say .

Well i am the guy who has the adena in the pockets not you. I sold it today in aden near heros. I just got luck..nor more nor less. Dont be jealous and make a fool of yourself in your posts. Only because you are QQing that you cant sell yours on the market doesnt mean nobody can. Shows only that you dont know nothing about it.
87 clannies online, hundreds of letters, zero Cs ... just thought I 'd share in case somebody forgot to add it to the droplist again :)

Confirmed "C" Doesn't Drop. I'm guessing they plan on Extending the event for failing to add the "C" Oh btw I just noticed a major drop in event items not dropping off mobs now. On Day one they where dropping like crazy, now its day 2 and they're barely dropping what gives :/
Not sure what that "Server Maint" did. Unless that C is more elusive than a fox. Still no 5's for me...I am unlucky as hell.

Drop rate seems the same as before downtime
i was grinding right after maintenance and the letters where dropping loads (almost from every mob), but now hardly dropping again, i got 6 II's and 4 5's within 15-20mins, but now im lucky to get 1 of either in that time, especially 5's.
yeah i recant my previous statement. drop rate fell off 30 to 45 mins after reboot.

what server you on and where are you grinding? i have yet to drop a friggin 5! this is why i dont gamble.
5 S,3 5 and 8 II, but 0 C :D
at least, the gracia best reward is orfen which is not so big deal vs AQ from 5years so, yeah i have never seen a C in my life.
just hypothetical speaking...

if someone found a C what would it be worth..? ;P
i was grinding right after maintenance and the letters where dropping loads (almost from every mob), but now hardly dropping again, i got 6 II's and 4 5's within 15-20mins, but now im lucky to get 1 of either in that time, especially 5's.

Confirmed I just noticed it 2. This event is going down the drain :/
Dudes and dudettes...I dont know about you, but the drops seriously died. After maint things were ok...and then just got longer and longer between drops. Its bad now.
Dudes and dudettes...I dont know about you, but the drops seriously died. After maint things were ok...and then just got longer and longer between drops. Its bad now.

This event sucks now and its only day 2 all the event items are gone lol...
Either (A) there is a set amount and the farmers are hording all the event items. Or (B) Someone purposely screwed around with the drop rate.

Regardless -confirmed- less drops than day 1
I was discussing that with others in Varka too... After that little maintenance period the letter drops just died...
This event sucks now and its only day 2 all the event items are gone lol...
Either (A) there is a set amount and the farmers are hording all the event items. Or (B) Someone purposely screwed around with the drop rate.

Regardless -confirmed- less drops than day 1

ROFL...I wouldnt doubt that..saw 5's are going for 1 mil and II's for 500K. Ya just know the market dictates...theres bound to be hording
I got a II and a C and a 5

all have been juices lol I think i might beb etter off selling them in giran now
all I got was one II and one 5 and I just got the evasion juice the first time and haste juice for the 5 years one..>.> they won't even give me juices i can use.....
Clanny got a AQ ring today from the event, lucky SOB.
Clanny got a AQ ring today from the event, lucky SOB.

Yeah that SOB......
I just turned in a "Lineage II" and you know what I got? Small Parchment Box. Do you know what is in a small parchment box? Logically you'd think... oh, I bet that poor guy got an ewd or ead like all the other nc events. Wait, maybe he got lucky and it had something good like c b a or s scrolls! No, that's not what I got. I got a scroll of escape: stughartt. Seriously: what the ****? What kind of sick, twisted individual thinks that scrolls of escape qualify as event rewards at any level?
I just turned in a "Lineage II" and you know what I got? Small Parchment Box. Do you know what is in a small parchment box? Logically you'd think... oh, I bet that poor guy got an ewd or ead like all the other nc events. Wait, maybe he got lucky and it had something good like c b a or s scrolls! No, that's not what I got. I got a scroll of escape: stughartt. Seriously: what the ****? What kind of sick, twisted individual thinks that scrolls of escape qualify as event rewards at any level?

Sieges... my friend.. sieges!

Do think out of the box.. ;)
I just turned in a "Lineage II" and you know what I got? Small Parchment Box. Do you know what is in a small parchment box? Logically you'd think... oh, I bet that poor guy got an ewd or ead like all the other nc events. Wait, maybe he got lucky and it had something good like c b a or s scrolls! No, that's not what I got. I got a scroll of escape: stughartt. Seriously: what the ****? What kind of sick, twisted individual thinks that scrolls of escape qualify as event rewards at any level?

Maybe its the lack of sleep..but you made me laugh so hard. And I do feel ya. You grind away, gather stuff up, stroll confidently to the event manager and Blammo...ya get an SoE. Could have been worse, could have been and SoE to TI
wouldn't it be weird if the only way to get a C was if it was your character's birthday? O.o
just hypothetical speaking...

if someone found a C what would it be worth..? ;P

Maybe 100 millions adenas minimun because it is rare item and than a crazy collector can buy it for few billions to show it to everyone than he have the more rare item :)
ROFL...I wouldnt doubt that..saw 5's are going for 1 mil and II's for 500K. Ya just know the market dictates...theres bound to be hording

On luna i have sold the 5 for 1,6 millions each and the II for 800 k each and i think i have underestimate their value :)
botter killing the legits. i.e. botter get more drops and will probably increase chance of flooding the boss jewels and other stuffs.
hehe I noticed someplace about getting more adena from selling letters

so far Ive gotten:
2 wind stones
1 dark stone (SOLD)
2 fire
2 Earth
1 BSOE
2 Aden SOE
1 Gludio SOE
and a Chit load of buff juices

The Dark stone sold for 22 mil, if I sell the Wind, Earth and Fire stones Ill bank about 350 mil in 2 days wich is a hell of alot more then what the letters would sell for :P


BTW DROP RATES SUCK, I want my drop rates back :( (well at least this event acaully gto me lvling my sub :x)
Sieges... my friend.. sieges!

Do think out of the box.. ;)

If you want to know what is inside thw box, you gotta think out of the box :D
hehe I noticed someplace about getting more adena from selling letters

so far Ive gotten:
2 wind stones
1 dark stone (SOLD)
2 fire
2 Earth
1 BSOE
2 Aden SOE
1 Gludio SOE
and a Chit load of buff juices

The Dark stone sold for 22 mil, if I sell the Wind, Earth and Fire stones Ill bank about 350 mil in 2 days wich is a hell of alot more then what the letters would sell for :P


BTW DROP RATES SUCK, I want my drop rates back :( (well at least this event acaully gto me lvling my sub :x)

Drop rates from this event are better at night. I tested it on my own.
I knew it that drop rates are messed up. I usually play in the early mornings and the frist day drops were cool, but today they were really bad... :S
Drop rates from this event are better at night. I tested it on my own.

Ive plaied from 11pm -3am MST (1 hr behind NcSoft) and the drop rates just sucked. yesterday I playied from midnight -2am MST and it was a hell of alot better acully I formed more words in 2 hrs then I did in the 4 hrs.

EDIT: Night for who? Day for me could be night for you and Vice versa.
Ive plaied from 11pm -3am MST (1 hr behind NcSoft) and the drop rates just sucked. yesterday I playied from midnight -2am MST and it was a hell of alot better acully I formed more words in 2 hrs then I did in the 4 hrs.

EDIT: Night for who? Day for me could be night for you and Vice versa.

Well i played yesterday at 2h in the morning gmt +1. Teon server.
So Pretty Much your AM (say 8am) is midnight My time (a close freind lives in the same time zone) If you got on at say 11am your time thats 4am my time,

Meaning that your night is our day, so for those that play at night in the US were screwed, and for those that are working the US is screwed.


Honeslty the drops shouldnt be better at one time or another, it needs to be at a certain rates at all times. if its gonna be a random letter every 3 mobs it needs to be that way all the way areound, no lvl differences, no time differences ect.
Well,

After a couple hours sleep, I figured I'd check it out before work. Between 0600 and 0700 EST the drop rate continues to totally blow. I was getting 3 boxes (all common, no 5's or II's) about every 15 minutes of constant grinding and spamming SS.

Several have said it...but this event is officially a bust! Might get better over the weekend, but I doubt it. I am starting to lean towards SC450's post that there were limited event items....and all you greedy clannies are sitting on them, to later charge us max prices :-P
Here we go again! Sold my "II" for 5kk each :D
Here we go again! Sold my "II" for 5kk each :D

When you say 5kk you mean 5000 adena or 5mil?

If its 5mil I guess is k.

The reward I getting with this event so far is close to 300mil... so I am more than happy, finally I can wield once again my S weapon *sniff*.

Still no C letter so far... they probably forgot to add that letter in my server.
When you say 5kk you mean 5000 adena or 5mil?

If its 5mil I guess is k.

The reward I getting with this event so far is close to 300mil... so I am more than happy, finally I can wield once again my S weapon *sniff*.

Still no C letter so far... they probably forgot to add that letter in my server.

I mean 5.000.000 adena each "II" :) Last day I sold them for 10kk = 10.000.000 adena.
Sieges... my friend.. sieges!

Do think out of the box.. ;)

I knew some smart *** would say that. It is still an unacceptable item for an event.
I knew some smart *** would say that. It is still an unacceptable item for an event.

Well at least he looks like an smart azz...but you buddy...you just look like a dumb azz.
Well at least he looks like an smart azz...but you buddy...you just look like a dumb azz.
So you disagree with me? You find scrolls of escape to be acceptable rewards during the 5th year anniversary Gracia part 3 event?
So you disagree with me? You find scrolls of escape to be acceptable rewards during the 5th year anniversary Gracia part 3 event?

I know some rewards are like wtf... but overall if you try more than 1,2 and 10 times you will get something useful and valuable, I rather prefer a scroll of scape to some place than the common life stone which I have in lots.
i can get as much soe to town as i want using dimension diamonds which cost like 8k a piece (64k for soe to town)

so its the most worthless reward ever imo
Clanny got a AQ ring today from the event, lucky SOB.

SS or it never happened....

and yea.. please put the drop rate back - if they fixed it for the bots, well they win no matter what... but for the rest of us, please give us a chance.
I still haven't seen a single C. And I don't mean "got a C as a drop". I mean, haven't seen evidence of a single C existing. No sell shops in Giran. No buy stores either. No clannies with one. Even yelling in towns for someone to prove they had one resulted in nothing.

Not to say they don't drop, but it must be incredibly rare. You could probably count the total number of Cs on each server on two hands!
You could probably count the total number of Cs on each server on two hands!

On two hands with no fingers.
When you say 5kk you mean 5000 adena or 5mil?

If its 5mil I guess is k.

The reward I getting with this event so far is close to 300mil... so I am more than happy, finally I can wield once again my S weapon *sniff*.

Still no C letter so far... they probably forgot to add that letter in my server.

K, KK, And KKK are euro

K = Thousand
KK = Million
KKK = Billion

Its also more commonly used on Private servers.

Back on topic though:

GIVE US BACK OUR LETTERS! :( getting 1 drop every 5 mobs now blows and getting 1 II or 1 5 in 1 hr is rediculois.
What did you expected?...
I was sure it will happen, so i was very happy after playing first night all night long and get actualy 49 sets! (34x LineageII and 15x 5Years) and hundrets of other letters.
Now... now event looks like standart NC events, so i don't bother to play for event anymore, just keep leveling normaly. (in last 2 hours i got 1 set... wohoo...)
SS or it never happened....

and yea.. please put the drop rate back - if they fixed it for the bots, well they win no matter what... but for the rest of us, please give us a chance.LOL didn't take a SS but now we have 2 clannies that got AQ also there are 4 for sale in Giran now, not including our 2 clannies. Bth those AQ rings were recieved on the second day of the event. I bet after the maintenance they changed the % to get one.

I now have
10 wind stones
4 Divine
6 fire
70+ juices of different types
2xBSOE
2xBREZ
and various town soe scrolls.

Seems the 100mil I invested in II and 5's will pay off in a month or so when element stone prices go back up.
did you buy all the letters??
K, KK, And KKK are euro

K = Thousand
KK = Million
KKK = Billion

Its also more commonly used on Private servers.

Back on topic though:

GIVE US BACK OUR LETTERS! :( getting 1 drop every 5 mobs now blows and getting 1 II or 1 5 in 1 hr is rediculois.

everyone understand what is thousand, million, billion and trillion. why dont we use K, M, B, and T respectively?
I'd consider 1 drop every 5 mobs a fabulous drop rate! The other night Spuddy and I were on alts and I killed 65 mobs and got 3 letters.....at around 9:30-10:00 pm EST.
are you talking about Cs?
are you talking about Cs?

my point exactly... Gra=>C<=ia
are you talking about Cs?

No. 3 total letters. An "N" and a couple of "A's" I believe. 65 straight mobs and 3 total letters.
In all the letters I've collected I have no C's and two 5's.

Last night in WOA I believe I spelled "GELA II" after a couple of buffrounds....
I still haven't seen a single C. And I don't mean "got a C as a drop". I mean, haven't seen evidence of a single C existing. No sell shops in Giran. No buy stores either. No clannies with one. Even yelling in towns for someone to prove they had one resulted in nothing.

Not to say they don't drop, but it must be incredibly rare. You could probably count the total number of Cs on each server on two hands!
my buddy that has 3 bot trains running also reports not getting any "c". If 3 24/7 parties cant get them, it doesn't exist imo.
you're very honest on official forum LMFAO :D




back to topic, so now players can draw conclusion about argument of letter C, how is ncsoft going to backing up their claim now?
my buddy that has 3 bot trains running also reports not getting any "c". If 3 24/7 parties cant get them, it doesn't exist imo.

:eek: hahha pore guy :rolleyes: and your associating with the wrong people :p

NCS should just admit screwing on the C's and admit they cant spell Gracia so let us use our letters and spell GraGia
my buddy that has 3 bot trains running also reports not getting any "c". If 3 24/7 parties cant get them, it doesn't exist imo.

Have you considered finding a better class of friends in the game?
I really think the letter C is mess up.

Not even farmers around Giran are selling the letter C, yeah those with weird names follow by numbers -.-. They selling everything except that letter.
You guys are either very naive or have no friends what so ever in this game if you don't know any botters. Seriously, all of you 3-4-5 year players are going to sit here and chastise me for knowing people who bot? Give me a break. Either way, the point remains, C confirmed for not dropping by our mutual robotic friends.
Some guy is yelling in Forsaken planes that C's only drop in the gracia continent. >.>
Some guy is yelling in Forsaken planes that C's only drop in the gracia continent. >.>

Thats what I was going to say, I think C drops only in gracia continent.
You guys are either very naive or have no friends what so ever in this game if you don't know any botters. Seriously, all of you 3-4-5 year players are going to sit here and chastise me for knowing people who bot? Give me a break. Either way, the point remains, C confirmed for not dropping by our mutual robotic friends.

sry but i have no robotic friends.
Can the drop rates for the Cs in the event please be fixed?
You guys are either very naive or have no friends what so ever in this game if you don't know any botters. Seriously, all of you 3-4-5 year players are going to sit here and chastise me for knowing people who bot? Give me a break. Either way, the point remains, C confirmed for not dropping by our mutual robotic friends.


I have lots of friends, but if I hear they run bot trains or bot them self they are ending up permanently on my blocklist and I bot report them everytime I see them.
Thats what I was going to say, I think C drops only in gracia continent.


huuu?? so if you are under 75 you dont get it ha? so all the publicity about "pls new people join us we give free acc etc" is b...s..? If is true is worse then forget to put C in.
I have lots of friends, but if I hear they run bot trains or bot them self they are ending up permanently on my blocklist and I bot report them everytime I see them.

All it takes is someone telling you your friend is botting/running trains and you will ditch them, just like that?

You sound like a real gem. Funny part is, now they will be reporting you as well!
All it takes is someone telling you your friend is botting/running trains and you will ditch them, just like that?

You sound like a real gem. Funny part is, now they will be reporting you as well!


lol no. only if I catch them in the act
devildreamerK, KK, And KKK are euro

K = Thousand
KK = Million
KKK = Billion

QUOTE]

only naps say kk (kilokilo ? lol) ^^


is there still no official response in the "c" case ?
time for scully + molder to investigate...
devildreamerK, KK, And KKK are euro

K = Thousand
KK = Million
KKK = Billion

QUOTE]

only naps say kk (kilokilo ? lol) ^^


is there still no official response in the "c" case ?
time for scully + molder to investigate...

I havent see the letter C for sale and nobody in my server have report to have got it, I even offer at some point 100mil for the lulz, no luck :P.
Well, I had hoped that Friday night would be better. Been grinding for three hours, and recieved 1 II's and 0 5's. And after scanning the posts still see theres no C's.

Has anyone confirmed that the c's are only dropping in Gracia???
kk/kkk is a Russian mmo tradition because in russian language billion sounds like "milliard" so kkk and kk would both be m thus ppl use kk and kkk instead.

since russians are plentiful on euro servers, its mostly used there.
Give me a ******* c
i doubt that even americans know why they call milliard a billion >.>
no wonder that the whole finance sector crashed if they dunno about 3 zeros :P

my drop rate is down to like 1x 5 "or" II every 6 hours aoing,
seems pretty low since maintenance.
and in catacombs ... like every 20 mobs a crap letter (if im lucky).

guess im only "unlucky" or it simply dont drop anything after midnight.

and still no "c" after millions!!!!1111 of dead mobs :)
So after hours of hunting in the catacombs I swear I had decided that if the next letter I got was another E I was gonna have the same little hissy fit that my 2 year old niece did at naptime today. I swear I got 5 E's in a row (not back to back of course, just one letter every 5 to 6 mobs). Then suddenly, as if the gamer goddess had heard my prayer, I got a 5, II, Y, R, and 5 as my next letters. WOO HOO - lol. Then of course the lucky streak ran out and I was back to E's and G's and A's. So my good letters are for sale in Giran currently :D since I got tired of turning them in and getting only juices. Happy hunting!


Edit: In the time it took me to write this post I made 9 million off my letters (I know that is by no means rich but for a 4x newbie in common C I'm ecstatic!) I seriously did not think people would pay for letters that only took me 4 hours to hunt.
K, KK, And KKK are euro

K = Thousand
KK = Million
KKK = Billion



Where in Europe are you from?
1k, 1M, 1B yes but all this KKK sounds rather Greek to me.
Where in Europe are you from?
1k, 1M, 1B yes but all this KKK sounds rather Greek to me.

People stop arguing about the dum kkk stuff. Is a lame privet server custom used by greek/russian mostly.
This thread is about we not getting a C!!! And is a big flaw that must be corrected, i want 20 C spawn in my inventory or else :rolleyes::p
ok ok i am j/k but seriously we are in the last days of the event and still no C ><
devildreamerK, KK, And KKK are euro

K = Thousand
KK = Million
KKK = Billion

QUOTE]

only naps say kk (kilokilo ? lol) ^^



I thought the kilo was the general idea, as in kilometer (1.000 meters)..
Well we could also use the $ or € simbol instead the K one.
lol back on track

^^^^^^
*spins wheel*
*wheel lands on 200$*
Alec: pick a letter
me: can I have a C please?
*buzzer sounds*
Alec: Im sorry but theres no C in this puzzle
^^^^^^
Wheel of Fortune


GIVE US THE **** C ALREADY!
give us the **** c already!

dam right!
Well, I had hoped that Friday night would be better. Been grinding for three hours, and recieved 1 II's and 0 5's. And after scanning the posts still see theres no C's.

Has anyone confirmed that the c's are only dropping in Gracia???

I can confirm that Cs ARENT dropping in Gracia ... neither instances nor flying mobs

By the way this is the second time they "forgot" to add some drops to the event, last time the event was run 2 letters didn't drop but back then they did a short maintenance and added them :) http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=178229
The best part is the total lack of any sort of acknowledgment regarding this issue from any staff members. At least let us know your "looking in to the matter".
Sad that they nerfed it, thought it was a very nice droprate.
it's looks like we'r must save all our letters befor next L2Day event for didn't cry about forgotten letters. anyway C was dropped at previous L2Day events :)
it's looks like we'r must save all our letters befor next L2Day event for didn't cry about forgotten letters. anyway C was dropped at previous L2Day events :)
rest assured they will be deleted after this event. god forbid your hard work actually count for something later on.
**** still no C's


what if only elpy drops it? lf confirmation :(
I can confirm the dropping of one C

My alliance leader's r2d2 got killed in the olyimpad and drop a letter C lol
I can confirm the dropping of one C

My alliance leader's r2d2 got killed in the olyimpad and drop a letter C lol

LOL +1 at that one hahaha :D
I can confirm the dropping of one C

My alliance leader's r2d2 got killed in the olyimpad and drop a letter C lol

is that a joke?
mine was killed and only dropped a R ><
is that a joke?

Wow...ever heard of sarcasm. Of course it was a joke LOL...
if i get dropped only D,A,M,N,U appears :S
After 1 hr spammin SS and burning through 239 mobs received

2 E
1 L
7 A
3 R
4 G
5 I
4 N

No II's or 5's....and still no elusive C I give up on this event
After getting 8k relics in IT not one C, about 7 "letter" 5s and about 20 IIs.
I wish I had screenshotted the first reply to my petition about the C's not dropping at all, it blew me away, they do not realize that NO C's are dropping >< so I had to reply to it and this is what I got back

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e111/RenMan000/PetitionLetterC.jpg

I don't think they have seen this thread about it and the person that said he got a C (but oops didn't screenshot it :p ) is not helping our case :(

I probably have close to 400 A's and not one C. They obviously forgot to put it in like they did before on this event. The event is almost over, comeon ncsoft fix it ><
wow, i must have the worst luck out of anyone :P
after about 6 hours of grinding, i've only received 2 II's and a crapload of the common ones. rewards were 2 juices and a divine stone. and this is why i stay far far away from the casinos.
Well I have 5years and 2x LineageII

I need more 5 and II to complete my collection full of A G L R S Y E I N
hunted for 2 days so far of the event and No C's 1 II and 1 5.

Someone on here said they got a C? really? serious? someone in a shout also claimed they have gotten 1 C so far. even if the C was supposed to be rare, this is pushing it a little no? oh well ... LF clan
give us that #$%$ letter C
Lol... Whats the drop rate % of letter c? .000000000001%?

This is hilarious, is not like that if letter c drops we are going to get a epic...
they should fix the letter imo.
The silly thing is not that the letter does not drop at all (that can happen when putting in an event, we had that on the last letter event, too, and then they fixed it) - it is that they (NCSoft) DO NOT REALIZE that the event is broken. It seems they do not read the board and do not react to player feedback that there is something wrong with the event. I wonder if they even have any statistics, like e.g. how many of each word were turned in.
Just post something about those bots being unbanned and Kinslon will be all over this thread like white on rice!
Just post something about those bots being unbanned and Kinslon will be all over this thread like white on rice!

Lets discuss this in a difrent section please :p
Lets discuss this in a difrent section please :p
Hmmm..
what is the best spot or in your experiences found that drop most 5 and II?


Please Kinslon, why the game not dropping letter C?, we all want the good rewards in the "GRACIA" rewards section. This is GRACIA "Final" update, we certainly want to have good experiences to remember GRACIA by. not like this >_<" I hates the irony
It's not really an Event if you cannot make a word to turn in.

I hope that this isn't a return to the non-events.
Well, I opened a support ticket and got an answer pretty similar to the petition response above ("some of the rarer letters might not drop as often as anyone would expect").

So either it is by design that MAYBE one "C" drops per server (if that, I am still convinced they do not drop at all), so that the happy guy who gets it can then turn it in for a soe:gludin, or NCSoft NA have absolutely no clue how to check whether this event is working as intended or not AND they do not even read the player feedback - otherwise they maybe would have contacted somebody in Korea and asked to have the code checked again.
GRACIA is the middle reward, it would make 0 sense for the C to drop less frequently than the event top reward which is 5YEARS.

Besides, nobody in clan/alliance got a C and we 're talking over 250 people ... We even repeatedly hero shouted for a C offering 1 billion for one, nobody had one. I think they just forgot to add it ... no biggie it would just have been nice if one of those people from NcSoft that supposedly checks the forum bothered to say something ... I mean I made this thread a few hours after Gracia went live :S
Any official news from NCSoft regarding this?
Any official news from NCSoft regarding this?

nope, forget about a answer..event is almost over.
nope, forget about a answer..event is almost over.

I know event is over, still they need to give a good answer about this :P. Even if its "Oops... we forgot to add letter C ..."
I know event is over, still they need to give a good answer about this :P. Even if its "Oops... we forgot to add letter C ..."

The thing is on official l2 servers is that gms dont need to give a answer if they dont want to. They answer if they want..and not if we want them to answer.
Well I'm gonna suggest that our one "I got a C" guy was telling fibs. I think the event was broken and C wasn't added to the database. I have seen no evidence of one and neither has anyone else on this thread.

As someone else said though, GRACIA was the 'middle' award tier. It makes sense then that C would drop at a rate somewhere in between II and 5/S (the rare ones from the other words). But I have got three 5's, three S's and about 7 IIs in this event. So yep ... C wasn't in there I'd say.

Nice event guys! Last time you forgot to put a letter in you patched it within a day or two of the start of the event so it wasn't a big deal, but this time it seems you just don't care. Perhaps because you can make other words, so it's OK that you can't make GRACIA?
The thing is on official l2 servers is that gms dont need to give a answer if they dont want to. They answer if they want..and not if we want them to answer.

You are the most worthless poster on this forum. Not only do you take every opportunity to belittle or fanatically disagree with other posters (even when not applicable!), but you also irrationally white knight for ncsoft every chance you get.
Fast fix

Make it so that you can turn 10 of equal letters into another letter...

10 "X" = 1 II, 1 5 or 1 C

or if thats to easy

10 "X" = 1 II. or "X"
20 "X" = 1 5
30 "X" = 1 C

Make this into next weeks update and I am happy
Letter C must guarantee an epic jewelry since it is so rare.
You are the most worthless poster on this forum. Not only do you take every opportunity to belittle or fanatically disagree with other posters (even when not applicable!), but you also irrationally white knight for ncsoft every chance you get.

Do you mean poser? o.o
Fast fix

Make it so that you can turn 10 of equal letters into another letter...

10 "X" = 1 II, 1 5 or 1 C

or if thats to easy

10 "X" = 1 II. or "X"
20 "X" = 1 C
30 "X" = 1 5

Make this into next weeks update and I am happy

This should be the case, C are from medium boxes wile 5 for high and II for low. But in rest i agree 100% with you:))
.310% drop rate for 5 and II after that short maintenance
.310% drop rate for 5 and II after that short maintenance

I haven't had a 5 or II drop to me since the miantenance. I won't mention "C"s. This event was good at first because the letters actually dropped but the event has turned into a big let down.

:confused:
true... I have 50+ of all the others, but Zero C, 5 or II... :(
So last night I was hunting in an unusual spot. In the last week I have gotten three 'II' and no '5' and no 'C'. Then in this unusual spot within 10 minutes of hunt time I got one 'II' and two '5' and quite a few of the semi-rare ones like 'Y'.

I wasn't there for a long time but it was unusual enough to make me think that perhaps there is some mob/location specificity for the rare letters. I will be testing it out all afternoon and evening today.

PS No, I'm not saying where until after the event. Sorry, I'm greedy.
Luckily no one cares.
Confrimed. Had to buy 'Y's got so many 5s. Lots of IIs, no Cs.
As we all may see...the event is over tomorrow and no gm cared about this drop issue... Not even 1 answer on the 39274 threads already here created...very nice..making a event where isnt even 1 c droping on any server...gratz ncsoft for ignoring the people which pay monthly to you to play this game.
As we all may see...the event is over tomorrow and no gm cared about this drop issue... Not even 1 answer on the 39274 threads already here created...very nice..making a event where isnt even 1 c droping on any server...gratz ncsoft for ignoring the people which pay monthly to you to play this game.

they usually have great customer service :|
they usually have great customer service :|
what game have you been playing for the last 5 years? It certainly hasn't been lineage 2.
... why aren't accessories from event trade able? I thought I had gotten something I could make some money off of then... non drop/trade, wtf.... ****. Last time they did letter event I got artisan goggles and sold them, why can't we sell/trade the accessories this time?
Give me a G
Give me a R
Give me a A
Give me a C
Give me a I
Give me a A

What does it spell?

GRA IA, because NCSoft did not give me any C. :p
... why aren't accessories from event trade able? I thought I had gotten something I could make some money off of then... non drop/trade, wtf.... ****. Last time they did letter event I got artisan goggles and sold them, why can't we sell/trade the accessories this time?


Yeah.. lol. i thought i would be millionair too now.. but noooooo.

Cant sell the jesterhat, and the elemental stones i have. (only water) price droped. waterstones form 15 mill to 4.9 mill now(in our server).. that's insane..
Not one C for me either, The II and 5 didn't seem to drop for me a lot either.

Wonder what NC will say about it..I'm gonna say nothing.
As we all may see...the event is over tomorrow and no gm cared about this drop issue... Not even 1 answer on the 39274 threads already here created...very nice..making a event where isnt even 1 c droping on any server...gratz ncsoft for ignoring the people which pay monthly to you to play this game.

:rolleyes: Why are you complaining ? You 're the only person in North America that got a C

I had twice a C already. Hunting in ketra.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
:rolleyes: Why are you complaining ? You 're the only person in North America that got a C



:rolleyes: :rolleyes:



no no, not only north america, he is the only one in the Entire game who got 2 C's.
:rolleyes: Why are you complaining ? You 're the only person in North America that got a C

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

You can spread that out to Europe as well; in fact, call it American continent, Europe, and the Middle East. Hehe...
[Snap Xari :)]

And nope... zero C's here too.
You can spread that out to Europe as well; in fact, call it American continent, Europe, and the Middle East. Hehe...
[Snap Xari :)]

And nope... zero C's here too.

:p haha
maybe they come with a supprise..

i mean, why is this event so short? only 1 week. or was it 2??

other events are longer, though, that is what i remember form waaaay back.


correct me when im wrong.
Yeah.. lol. i thought i would be millionair too now.. but noooooo.

Cant sell the jesterhat, and the elemental stones i have. (only water) price droped. waterstones form 15 mill to 4.9 mill now(in our server).. that's insane..

what really sux, is i prolly wont even wear it.... it looks ******ed. only reason it would be good is because ppl will pay alot of adena to look ******ed in this game (just like the last time they did letter event someone paid me 40mil for artisan goggles, lol). Academy circlet + L2 Day: Little Angel Wing (also from letter event before this one :o) look much beter than teddy bear head.
PyroAmos


HUUU? I r not ******ed look alike with it :rolleyes::D:p
I got plently of "II". No "5" but my friend got one so I know they drop. But alas no "C" at all. They should have fixed that and extended the event.
:rolleyes: Why are you complaining ? You 're the only person in North America that got a C



:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

**** i was joking...of course i never saw a C...like all you people didnt :p
think i've gotten total 6 5s now, like around 25 IIs. Nothing to good so far... 2 76 high grade LS, a water stone & teddy bear hat that I can't trade (and alotta buf juices, that I'll prolly try to sell later) seems quite a few ppl got AQ ring (not like, everyone, but 5+ on each server), although I find it ironic that lineageII is much more common to turn in, but I havn't heard of 1 ring of the core yet, lol.... I think they pulled a 'L2 Day - C' with that drop. HAHAHA
I sold all my letters. Not even 1 word exchanged. Made some 50kk :D Very nice event for more though. Well i could had get luck on getting a earth stones or something like that but well...i dint want to rish to get mp juices or any soe :p
And its very funny that in all this event time not even ONCE a gm sayed somthing to us about the C....i mean we deserve a answer on this since it should had drop but never did. What for a awful support we got here on the forum from gms >.<
1 wind stone
2 Divine stone
1 Teddy Bear hat
SOE Florian (LMAO)
SOE Dion (seriously? lol)
Buff Juices which I can use so not complaining I made a butt load selling the stones right away before prices fell out on Aria..which they have dropped significantly.
crap ton of buff pots
1 x soe oren
1 x soe giran
3 x earth stones
1 x fire stone
2 x divine stone
1 x water stone
1 x brez

Overall I think the stones will bring in some nice cash after the prices go back up a little in a few weeks.
/ignore draconz spambot


and enjoy the event :)

last days dont give much 5 + II but was funny.

im makin a ebay auction now.. for all the "c"

100m and its urs *cough*

u give money , i send u "c" in PM :P
farmed letters:
A - 180
E - 146
G - 117
I - 114
L - 74
N - 72
R - 57
Y - 27
II - 24
S - 20
5 - 6
Results:
6x "5YEARS" -> 6 large libation boxes = juices only
24x "LINEAGEII" -> 17 small libation boxes = juices, 1 teddy bear hat, 1 BRez, 1 BSoE; 3 parchment boxes = SoE to Goddard, Floran, Gludin; 1 mineral box = 1 Wind stone
...pretty disappointing.
Hi there! I know the event drops stopped today, but I wanted to let you all know we have been looking into this.
All the old letters from previous events are called L2 Day - "random letter here". The new ones, like the Y's and 5's , are L2Day - Letter "5,Y" Someone messed up with the name on C and the game was like naaahh not dropping it! I solved the mystery! (yeah I am bored out of my mind)
Hi there! I know the event drops stopped today, but I wanted to let you all know we have been looking into this.

I will probably sound really cynical saying this but... What good is looking into it now? the event is over... And no way they will add C to drop later on.

And to the previous poster who said noone got core ring.. i know of 2 people who got it, 1 was my ex-ally and 1 was my clanmate, so the core rings do go around... people just don't make that much fuss of it because its significantly less valuable
I will probably sound really cynical saying this but... What good is looking into it now? the event is over... And no way they will add C to drop later on.

Understood and that's fair.

I don't want to insinuate we will be able to provide a resolution for this specific event, however, it does appear that something may have gone wrong. The best thing we can do at this point is determine where it went wrong and use that knowledge to prevent similar issues in the future.
Understood and that's fair.

I don't want to insinuate we will be able to provide a resolution for this specific event, however, it does appear that something may have gone wrong. The best thing we can do at this point is determine where it went wrong and use that knowledge to prevent similar issues in the future.

Why did it take until the end of the event before anyone from NCsoft would hear us? 12 pages later??
Understood and that's fair.

I don't want to insinuate we will be able to provide a resolution for this specific event, however, it does appear that something may have gone wrong. The best thing we can do at this point is determine where it went wrong and use that knowledge to prevent similar issues in the future.

OR, Secretary of DeHammer-Moxie (still trying to help you out here!), you could assume I would have gotten some C's and turned them in for the top prizes and simply put a couple of those in the WH of my main!

That would work, too!
~D~
Why did it take until the end of the event before anyone from NCsoft would hear us? 12 pages later??

We heard you early on and started looking into it at that time. I haven't had the ability to post until today, so my apologies for not being able to let you know.
We heard you early on and started looking into it at that time. I haven't had the ability to post until today, so my apologies for not being able to let you know.
i think the problem is less and less gm`s read this forum :)
5 days C missing and nobody try or read to fix it :)
good start for gra(c)ia final :)
We heard you early on and started looking into it at that time. I haven't had the ability to post until today, so my apologies for not being able to let you know.


we have ur teddybear,

we want 5m AA and 500 "C".

dont call =HGMspam= or the ingame police.

be online 24/7 next 28 days for further instructions or ur teddybear becomes a hat...


p.s.: welcome :P
Hi there! I know the event drops stopped today, but I wanted to let you all know we have been looking into this.

lol
Understood and that's fair.

I don't want to insinuate we will be able to provide a resolution for this specific event, however, it does appear that something may have gone wrong. The best thing we can do at this point is determine where it went wrong and use that knowledge to prevent similar issues in the future.
I know I'm going to sound like a real cynical ***** but...the last guy said the exact same thing and nothing changed. This is a once a year event and your position is never filled longer then 8 months. You've "been" with the company for a while, you should know this. Even if you do find out what went wrong the next team/person/whatever will make the exact same mistake, just like they did the year before.

If you really care then start up a new event asap to make it up to us. If not, just go back to whatever it is your job is besides posting empty promises. It's cruel to the gullible forum fanboys and irritating to the rest of us :(
Poor Moxie--her first day and she's confronted with ridiculous, absurd, and chronically wounded (fill in any player names you like for any of those--lol).

Guess there's no honeymoon period.

Well, the thing is this. This community (forum users) is quite probably the most disgruntled, impossible to please, and fragile group ever assembled.

Picture a preschool class! One kid is crying cause he can't have a blue crayon....another is using a drinking cup as a hammer and is pounding his sandwich into a blob....another kid is going around trying to take everyone else's stuff....and another kid just keeps whining over and over and over about having to go to the bathroom again.
Pretty much describes this band of forum misfits.

If tomorrow you announced that all players were going to get 1 billion adena just for playing, that subclasses were as simple as talking to an NPC, and that all bots had been removed I absolutely PROMISE you'd hear right on these forums some form of the following:

a) Waaaaa! How come I only get ONE billion? What am I gonna do with that?
b) If everyone else gets the same billion I got--I'm quitting! You suck!
c) It's not fair that subclasses are so EASY now! I'm quitting!
d) I hate bots!
e) Waaaaa! You banned all my accounts along with my bots!
f) Sure! Give me the billion NOW! I NEEDED it last year! Cheapskates!
g) Yeah-so what, these changes suck. When are you gonna fix the Oly?
h) Waaaaa! I needed TWO billion adena! I'm quitting!
i) My prophet should be able to FLY!
j) What are we gonna do without bots? You people are STUPID!!!
k) Bots have ruined this game--NCSoft WANTS the bot accounts!
l) Waaaaa! I wanted to do my subclasses the old way--thanks for NOTHING! I quit!
m) Great! NOW inflation is just gonna wipe out that billion! Dumbest idea ever!

You get the point.

Fragile. Juvenile. Chronically offended. Never satisfied. That describes our merry little group quite nicely overall.
Welcome to your new job, Moxie! (lol)
~D~
Poor Moxie--her first day and she's confronted with ridiculous, absurd, and chronically wounded (fill in any player names you like for any of those--lol).

Guess there's no honeymoon period.

Well, the thing is this. This community (forum users) is quite probably the most disgruntled, impossible to please, and fragile group ever assembled.

Picture a preschool class! One kid is crying cause he can't have a blue crayon....another is using a drinking cup as a hammer and is pounding his sandwich into a blob....another kid is going around trying to take everyone else's stuff....and another kid just keeps whining over and over and over about having to go to the bathroom again.
Pretty much describes this band of forum misfits.

If tomorrow you announced that all players were going to get 1 billion adena just for playing, that subclasses were as simple as talking to an NPC, and that all bots had been removed I absolutely PROMISE you'd hear right on these forums some form of the following:

a) Waaaaa! How come I only get ONE billion? What am I gonna do with that?
b) If everyone else gets the same billion I got--I'm quitting! You suck!
c) It's not fair that subclasses are so EASY now! I'm quitting!
d) I hate bots!
e) Waaaaa! You banned all my accounts along with my bots!
f) Sure! Give me the billion NOW! I NEEDED it last year! Cheapskates!
g) Yeah-so what, these changes suck. When are you gonna fix the Oly?
h) Waaaaa! I needed TWO billion adena! I'm quitting!
i) My prophet should be able to FLY!
j) What are we gonna do without bots? You people are STUPID!!!
k) Bots have ruined this game--NCSoft WANTS the bot accounts!
l) Waaaaa! I wanted to do my subclasses the old way--thanks for NOTHING! I quit!
m) Great! NOW inflation is just gonna wipe out that billion! Dumbest idea ever!

You get the point.

Fragile. Juvenile. Chronically offended. Never satisfied. That describes our merry little group quite nicely overall.
Welcome to your new job, Moxie! (lol)
~D~

That.. was good :P
+1 rep
the man has a point.

pessimistic, but a point.
i think the problem is less and less gm`s read this forum :)
5 days C missing and nobody try or read to fix it :)
good start for gra(c)ia final :)

The amount of crying being done on this forum daily drowned the cries for C's >.<
Poor Moxie--her first day and she's confronted with ridiculous, absurd, and chronically wounded (fill in any player names you like for any of those--lol).

Guess there's no honeymoon period.

Well, the thing is this. This community (forum users) is quite probably the most disgruntled, impossible to please, and fragile group ever assembled.

Picture a preschool class! One kid is crying cause he can't have a blue crayon....another is using a drinking cup as a hammer and is pounding his sandwich into a blob....another kid is going around trying to take everyone else's stuff....and another kid just keeps whining over and over and over about having to go to the bathroom again.
Pretty much describes this band of forum misfits.

If tomorrow you announced that all players were going to get 1 billion adena just for playing, that subclasses were as simple as talking to an NPC, and that all bots had been removed I absolutely PROMISE you'd hear right on these forums some form of the following:

a) Waaaaa! How come I only get ONE billion? What am I gonna do with that?
b) If everyone else gets the same billion I got--I'm quitting! You suck!
c) It's not fair that subclasses are so EASY now! I'm quitting!
d) I hate bots!
e) Waaaaa! You banned all my accounts along with my bots!
f) Sure! Give me the billion NOW! I NEEDED it last year! Cheapskates!
g) Yeah-so what, these changes suck. When are you gonna fix the Oly?
h) Waaaaa! I needed TWO billion adena! I'm quitting!
i) My prophet should be able to FLY!
j) What are we gonna do without bots? You people are STUPID!!!
k) Bots have ruined this game--NCSoft WANTS the bot accounts!
l) Waaaaa! I wanted to do my subclasses the old way--thanks for NOTHING! I quit!
m) Great! NOW inflation is just gonna wipe out that billion! Dumbest idea ever!

You get the point.

Fragile. Juvenile. Chronically offended. Never satisfied. That describes our merry little group quite nicely overall.
Welcome to your new job, Moxie! (lol)
~D~

when does making a complaint become vaild? if there is an issue bothing you, it is better to just sit on it and not vent?

personally im getting bothered (on this forum and others) with people that counter the 'whiners' by whining about them and debasing them.

in RL, if someone is complaining nearby, do you walk up to them and tell them they are being a big baby? i doubt you act like that.

bring back some humility to open forums-not just you Drakkos, but anyone posting.
I'm pretty sure that someone from NC has a forum account and could have at the very least let us know they were "aware of the issue" at the beginning of the event. Waiting until the end is poor form indeed. Par for the course though, I must say. :o
Well...we cant do nothing about it. I am only dissapointed that they couldnt fix it and give us news about it. Well...lets hope the next event dont get there kind of problems :rolleyes:
Atleast the image for the event didnt have the word gracia in it ;) i say just re run the event in a week with c's ;)
when does making a complaint become vaild? if there is an issue bothing you, it is better to just sit on it and not vent?

personally im getting bothered (on this forum and others) with people that counter the 'whiners' by whining about them and debasing them.

in RL, if someone is complaining nearby, do you walk up to them and tell them they are being a big baby? i doubt you act like that.

bring back some humility to open forums-not just you Drakkos, but anyone posting.

Perhaps a sense of humor would help, too?

As for me, if someone is complaining nearby that a bear is going to get them--I don't tell them they are being a big baby. If someone is complaining that the sunny day is "just too much to TAKE"--then yes, I tell them they are being a big baby.

It's not complaining that is a problem here or in general. You have to admit, after reading the hundreds (if not thousands) of whine-rants, many of them are very funny!

And I tried to add a little levity, no doubt. We've all seen almost the exact examples that I used while trying to get a laugh.
And too--the "I quit" threads, the "I want MORE" threads, the "gimme, gimme, gimme" threads...they just scream out "fragile sissies" to me. Sorry--just the way I read them...generally through smiling eyes on my part.

Taking these forums too seriously is not good for one's health :)

~D~
Well...we cant do nothing about it. I am only dissapointed that they couldnt fix it and give us news about it. Well...lets hope the next event dont get there kind of problems :rolleyes:

You can do plenty. If we united in our efforts to "cry" when it comes to legitimate complaints, chances are ncsoft would notice. When half of the fanboys butt in and attack "complainers" like myself with rants and personal flames, nc probably scrolls through the thread, rolls their eyes, and assumes it's just some little forum fight that doesn't need any looking into.

Look at the c thread. We got ******s saying "DURR THE C DROPS, ITS JUST VERY LOW LOL!! GO HUNT FOR IT LOL!!11 I FOUND A MAGICAL PLACE IN GRACIA WHERE IT DROPS LOL U GUYS R SILLY WORKAN AS INTENTED NICE WORK NC"

This is why people hate this forum. More specifically, why they hate the non-players on this forum. You know who I am talking about, thousands of posts with low level characters and if they do have decent level characters it's only because they have been playing 1 hour a day for FIVE YEARS. Yes, you have the right to play at your own pace but no, you don't have the right to speak for all of us which you always end up doing.

It's so hard to get support for anything on this forum with you guys. Like battered spouses, many of you will valiantly defend the neglect this game gets as if we deserve it, or go off on a tangent to change the subject to something less ****ing of the company. Your defeatist attitude is counter productive and attacking fellow players with long posts which amount to a varied collection of logical fallacies do not help either.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease, but ncsoft can't grease it if you keep hiding it up with a bunch of hopey nonsense and non-deserved praise.
You can do plenty. If we united in our efforts to "cry" when it comes to legitimate complaints, chances are ncsoft would notice. When half of the fanboys butt in and attack "complainers" like myself with rants and personal flames, nc probably scrolls through the thread, rolls their eyes, and assumes it's just some little forum fight that doesn't need any looking into.

Look at the c thread. We got ******s saying "DURR THE C DROPS, ITS JUST VERY LOW LOL!! GO HUNT FOR IT LOL!!11 I FOUND A MAGICAL PLACE IN GRACIA WHERE IT DROPS LOL U GUYS R SILLY WORKAN AS INTENTED NICE WORK NC"

This is why people hate this forum. More specifically, why they hate the non-players on this forum. You know who I am talking about, thousands of posts with low level characters and if they do have decent level characters it's only because they have been playing 1 hour a day for FIVE YEARS. Yes, you have the right to play at your own pace but no, you don't have the right to speak for all of us which you always end up doing.

It's so hard to get support for anything on this forum with you guys. Like battered spouses, many of you will valiantly defend the neglect this game gets as if we deserve it, or go off on a tangent to change the subject to something less ****ing of the company. Your defeatist attitude is counter productive and attacking fellow players with long posts which amount to a varied collection of logical fallacies do not help either.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease, but ncsoft can't grease it if you keep hiding it up with a bunch of hopey nonsense and non-deserved praise.



Man, calm down. These forums are an addition to the game--they don't issue orders to NCSoft.
And your vehement posts are no more valid than anyone else's.....just like mine aren't.
You want to jump up and down and get ugly about silly stuff and I like to laugh. To each their own.

You can tell yourself all you want how some fantasy of a concerted effort will "change the world" (I love crusaders!--though when you think of it most of them didn't have such great endings.....) but let me ask you a couple of serious questions.

First, what ONE topic is in EVERY, SINGLE, SOLITARY post ever made on these forums?

Bots, right?

So unless nobody at NCSoft can read, we can assume that they have gotten that message 400,000,000 or so times, right? Hard to get more unified than that on a topic!

So if your united theory of important feedback and demands is valid, NCSoft would be working day and night and we'd see just massive efforts that eventually (say in 5 years or so) would see bots gone.......

Since it didn't happen, it makes me wonder about your unified theory of complaints. It serves what purpose again? It has made what change in the game? Uh huh--that would be "nothing". Perhaps you are wrong. Just maybe these forums are NOT a serious vehicle that forces change at NCSoft--it would seem the evidence sort of bears that out.......

We all want to believe in lofty democratic principles--and as good sounding as they are, very, very few private companies operate that way. Mostly because direct democracy is a monumentally ineffective way to accomplish anything.

But hey, if a vision of yourself riding naked on a horse to Korea makes you feel better--go for it.
After 4 years on these forums I can't say that they have been a serious vehicle in any substantial way or on any important topic. They just aren't. And it's not because other posters are more flawed than you. It's just how it is.
so, how many letters did you actually make during the last week?

I made 150 "II" & 50 "5". Didn't change them yet, w8ing for Friday to come back from work and start enjoying the process :)
so, how many letters did you actually make during the last week?

I made 150 "II" & 50 "5". Didn't change them yet, w8ing for Friday to come back from work and start enjoying the process :)

geeebus what did you do play 24/7?


the first night I got about 10 II and 8 5
after that I was lucky if I got 5 II and 3 5s a night
geeebus what did you do play 24/7?


the first night I got about 10 II and 8 5
after that I was lucky if I got 5 II and 3 5s a night

I played for the first 3 days almost 16 hours a day....like good old days when I was after the 'medal event'. Remember? :)
lol oh yeah :x


WTB metal event.... I need a blue 12 and dont want to pay for it :P
lol oh yeah :x


WTB metal event.... I need a blue 12 and dont want to pay for it :P

exactly!!!!!!!!!! :))
Poor Moxie--her first day and she's confronted with ridiculous, absurd, and chronically wounded (fill in any player names you like for any of those--lol).

Guess there's no honeymoon period.

Well, the thing is this. This community (forum users) is quite probably the most disgruntled, impossible to please, and fragile group ever assembled.

Picture a preschool class! One kid is crying cause he can't have a blue crayon....another is using a drinking cup as a hammer and is pounding his sandwich into a blob....another kid is going around trying to take everyone else's stuff....and another kid just keeps whining over and over and over about having to go to the bathroom again.
Pretty much describes this band of forum misfits.

If tomorrow you announced that all players were going to get 1 billion adena just for playing, that subclasses were as simple as talking to an NPC, and that all bots had been removed I absolutely PROMISE you'd hear right on these forums some form of the following:

a) Waaaaa! How come I only get ONE billion? What am I gonna do with that?
b) If everyone else gets the same billion I got--I'm quitting! You suck!
c) It's not fair that subclasses are so EASY now! I'm quitting!
d) I hate bots!
e) Waaaaa! You banned all my accounts along with my bots!
f) Sure! Give me the billion NOW! I NEEDED it last year! Cheapskates!
g) Yeah-so what, these changes suck. When are you gonna fix the Oly?
h) Waaaaa! I needed TWO billion adena! I'm quitting!
i) My prophet should be able to FLY!
j) What are we gonna do without bots? You people are STUPID!!!
k) Bots have ruined this game--NCSoft WANTS the bot accounts!
l) Waaaaa! I wanted to do my subclasses the old way--thanks for NOTHING! I quit!
m) Great! NOW inflation is just gonna wipe out that billion! Dumbest idea ever!

You get the point.

Fragile. Juvenile. Chronically offended. Never satisfied. That describes our merry little group quite nicely overall.
Welcome to your new job, Moxie! (lol)
~D~

Nerf all classes except mine... I quit!!
Well the most important complaint i have is this:

The drop rates should be set across the board 24/7 at one rate and left that way for each and every event.

Almost every event the drop rates fluctuate depending on the most active playtimes.

This hurts the players that do not play during those most active playtimes.

A set drop rate fixed and observed giving the normal player a chance to actually gain alot of drop items would not hurt the economy of the game.

As this and most other events, only the bots/farmer trains ended up with mega loads of event items, this can be seen on any server in giren.

If the drop rate was set and fixed, this last event players would not have seen a drastic decrease in the drops after the first day like we did.
Well the most important complaint i have is this:

The drop rates should be set across the board 24/7 at one rate and left that way for each and every event.

Almost every event the drop rates fluctuate depending on the most active playtimes.

This hurts the players that do not play during those most active playtimes.

A set drop rate fixed and observed giving the normal player a chance to actually gain alot of drop items would not hurt the economy of the game.

As this and most other events, only the bots/farmer trains ended up with mega loads of event items, this can be seen on any server in giren.

If the drop rate was set and fixed, this last event players would not have seen a drastic decrease in the drops after the first day like we did.

Actually it's the complaint that so many players have about these types of events IS WHY the drop rate gets so screwed up. In order to give bots the lowest number of event items the drop is nerfed when the population of the server gets low then the drop is increased when more players come online. Bots still end up with more event items since they are on 24/7 but if the drops were not nerfed there would be a ton of event items on the market.

NCSoft is not willing to stop the bots but they are willing to adjust the drop rates so that the game will not become flooded with event items because of the bots.

As far as the players go, well it does seem that other than having an event that there isn't any consideration to what the players see as a good event. If the players want event items they can pay a botter a few million adena for rare letter.

IMO, the start of the event was the way it was susposed to be but NCSoft tweeked the drop rate so that the game wouldn't be flooded becuase of the bots that NCSoft is unwilling to remove.
Actually it's the complaint that so many players have about these types of events IS WHY the drop rate gets so screwed up. In order to give bots the lowest number of event items the drop is nerfed when the population of the server gets low then the drop is increased when more players come online. Bots still end up with more event items since they are on 24/7 but if the drops were not nerfed there would be a ton of event items on the market.

NCSoft is not willing to stop the bots but they are willing to adjust the drop rates so that the game will not become flooded with event items because of the bots.

As far as the players go, well it does seem that other than having an event that there isn't any consideration to what the players see as a good event. If the players want event items they can pay a botter a few million adena for rare letter.

IMO, the start of the event was the way it was susposed to be but NCSoft tweeked the drop rate so that the game wouldn't be flooded becuase of the bots that NCSoft is unwilling to remove.

I agree with what you are saying, BUT a simple fact remains supply and demand.

If the normal player has the option to accure all the drop items they want or need, then the demand for purchasing same drops items from bots/farmers decreases.

Simple economics, as supply goes up demand goes down, but as it is usually in events demand is high due to low drop rate to normal players and supply is met by the bots/farmers that have hundreds to thousands of drop items to sell.

I agree if the drop ratio was left at a fixed value 24/7 YES the bots and farmers would still have the majority of the drops, BUT if the normal players can gain all the drops they desire, then the bots are left with useless drops they cannot sell before the event ends.