First ! :P I really wanna say that i w8 for the new updated site and i know that it will be nice ! Good work ,,, We wanna merge servers !!! Save Luna :P
Hire and train the GM to actually understand the game mechanics. I have seen way to many petition responses that showcase the lack of understanding of the staff.
BTW, I think this thread was a bad idea.
P.S. May want to enable higher forum functions for this thread ;)
Your guide up to level 20 is nice. Above it, I'd suggest:
1. Join a clan's academy.
2. Get equipment - top-D common should be enough, and some HP pots.
3. Get someone from your clan to buff you with high-level buffs, with a Prophecy or CoV.
4. Solo some level 20 or 21 RB, or duo with a melee DD if you aren't one. You should be level 28 or 29 by then.
5. Repeat with one to three more RBs, you should be level 32 or more. Don't forget to grab some skills on the way.
6. Duo the level 33 Kamaloka (36 if you get someone with a "lowbie" level 55 Great Wolf along).
7. Grind to 35. Should take a few hours most.
8. Do the "Temple ..." quest chain in Dion. This should get you to 38 by itself; do any random RB parties (look for shouts in Dion) if the chance presents itself, do your class change quests (more XP).
9. At level 36, do the Pailaka in Gludin.
There. You should have Vitality 3 or 4, and level 40 or near that in about one day. Three days if you take your time.
I have seen way to many petition responses that showcase the lack of understanding of the staff.
lol that just happened again last week...
my petition: heya, the guy who posseses akamanah atm forcelogs while beeing hitted by mobs + players. he logs in and out within 0.5 seconds, seems its a bot.
anwer: tell us the name of that player for further investigation.
my petition: heya, the guy who posseses akamanah atm forcelogs while beeing hitted by mobs + players. he logs in and out within 0.5 seconds, seems its a bot.
anwer: tell us the name of that player for further investigation.
Remake the quest rewards for the low lowels. It is ridiculous to make 3-4 hours quest only to get useless low D jewel (or such) which anyone can buy for few adena from the NPC shop.
I'd like to see some additional descriptions--almost like mini-walkthroughs for new players on a couple of topics.
First, the 7signs is rather cumbersome to explain (over and over) and it seems all new players struggle with what it is all about.
Tied to that, some idea of basic marketing with seal stones, AA, and consumables.
3rd "new player" topic, some basic overview of the manor. There is little game content directing new players toward the manor. Depending upon the toon/class they pick, there might be advantages from them starting at level 8--yet most are in their 30's these days before they even notice the manor manager and ask about it.
Nothing in depth, just a clear and SIMPLE overview of these 3 features. New players have to understand the manor, 7 signs, and some initial 'marketing or player-to-player economy' in order to begin using those aspects of the game as quickly as possible.
No way that we want those adena sales ads back again in pm or in shouts.
They are already considering the DSS problem. There might be a quest for it soon (NCSoft TM). :)
Good luck ingame and i hope you enjoy the game. :)
Yes, I did a little reading here on the forums after I posted to what the deal with that was and found my answer pretty quickly. You can scratch that concern off my plate. Still sucks that I can get to D grade in under an hour with no help from gear/funds and yet I'd have to spend $20 IRL buying the account to get some DSS. Super-dee-duper.
Easy fix for this, make your trial account a real one. Then you can shout and use private stores all you want. Hope you stay with the game.
All good points, but have to respectfully disagree with the DrakkosIV about the manor. Too many of my friends have a whole bunch of fruit that they cannot turn in as others are just to quick and can turn in 10 different kinds of fruit all at once and then the manors are empty. But I will not go into detail here as that has been discussed on other threads.
No, not really. I got the point, the point is that by now you should know if this is a game that suits your play style or not. If it is, great welcome aboard. If not, then glad you at least gave L2 a look.
My sugestions:
1. stop that misery for drop and items, if things were more easier, the game would be much more popular ...
2. improve XP/vitality system
3. improve the party bonus
4. update the rewards of quests, they are ridiculous
5. deploy a real action house, where it is not necessary to have two accounts to sell and play at the same time
Isn't that something you should have made like...years ago...you know, when there still were a lot of new players comming to the game ?
Seriously, I can probably count the amount of real new players comming to Aria on my fingers.
(talking about the guides and stuff in this section)
My sugestions:
1. stop that misery for drop and items, if things were more easier, the game would be much more popular ...
2. improve XP/vitality system
3. improve the party bonus
4. update the rewards of quests, they are ridiculous
5. deploy a real action house, where it is not necessary to have two accounts to sell and play at the same time
+1 to all your suggestions
I would like to add on your #2 suggestion.
We have to agree that most players are 78+ now. Can you maybe double the exp till 78 for players that are lower then 78?
Meaning that lvl 1~78 players have 2x exp boost? That would mean a lot to casual players that want to experience the "end game". Yes I know.. lvl 78 is not the end game lvl. But with faster exp till 78 will make casual players lvl faster, and I'm certain ofc not 100% that new player will just pop out =).
Oh and.. can you maybe add a feature Auto Pick? that would be awesome =)
My sugestions:
1. stop that misery for drop and items, if things were more easier, the game would be much more popular ...
2. improve XP/vitality system
3. improve the party bonus
4. update the rewards of quests, they are ridiculous
5. deploy a real action house, where it is not necessary to have two accounts to sell and play at the same time
1 things should be hard to get base mats can be gotten from mannor system
2 its allready been made much easyer to get xp now more then ever
3 this would be good ppl would party ppl more imo
4 +1
5 yea i think everyone was a bit disapointed in the auction thought it would be more like
wow's version
More Events per Year. 1 a month would be awesome..........
And if that isnt enough. . . More Vit WOOT! =))
Possibly maybe every other weekend do a 2x exp event? That would at least get people online. Also, if considered.... DO NOT DO IT ON TW/SIEGE WEEKEND. I know you guys would do that and end up being like w/e even though most wouldn't be able to make use of it >.>
more events +1
here is an example Duck Hunt (500 ducks = 1 vita candy, 1k Ducks = SA lvl 14+, 1,5k Ducks Donald Duck transformation stick, 2k Ducks = 5 vita candies or vita repleshin potions .)
Events need back good drops like LS, SA, VITA and so on.
Update Lineage 2 more often
party bonus +1
for pets, no need of SP give it back to us :P
good job Sace...
+++++++ more communication with PUBLIC
Possibly maybe every other weekend do a 2x exp event? That would at least get people online. Also, if considered.... DO NOT DO IT ON TW/SIEGE WEEKEND. I know you guys would do that and end up being like w/e even though most wouldn't be able to make use of it >.>
Nice sugestion, 2x events can be a nice powerup for L2.
Everyone has the right to enjoy the end game and not have to wait 2 years to see this happen.
Here goes some sugestions, that i consider essential to a real game experience, so i truly expect that you read them all.
Increase the quests rewards;
Increase de xp rate, or the vitality system (refresh time, or duration);
Increase the amount of vitality that the raid bosses give;
Fix the manor system;
Update the website;
Less bot friendly events (like, just farm 132135421 itens and exchange for something);
Fix the prophet class, its truly sad see all the other classes winning new skills, and only the prophet is left behind, its just painfull get a proper xp group;
NERF the SoulHound kamael class, its just RIDICULOUS the fact that he/she can steal 7 buffs from you, EVERY 11 SECONDS! Seriously, what the developers where thinking when they made this? Afaik, in the official rus server, steal divinity have the re use of 1 minute. Fair enough for me, since this class also have mass paralise (lvl 83 skill), ultimate defense, speed cap (250), blink with almost no re-use, etc;
Get rid of the warrior olympiad pots, along with the kamael skill, this is the most nonsense item I EVER saw in L2, seriously, a pot with NO DELAY(!) that recovers 30%(!!) of hp, and cost ONLY 200 NGP(!!!)? Hahahaha, why have bishops, ee's, and tanks in game, if with 100 of these in your bag you can easily solo a group?
Make the cp pots automatic, just like soulshots (right click on it), its just sad see you try to play fair, and face an enemy that auto spam every pots, with one of the many pvp programs that unfortunatly exists in L2. Hell, I saw myself obliged to buy an Nostromo, to try to stand up an "equal" fight vs my enemys ingame.
Thats it for now, thanks a lot for your attention, and again, dont forget to read this wall of text!
Indeed, this Feedback thread was intended to be for suggestions on improvements or fixes for this particular forum section, "New to Lineage II." For example, advice on improving or adding to the Newbie Quest Guide, or ideas for other guides and explanations are welcome here. Basically anything you all think would help a new player understand Lineage II. :)
Not in this particular part of the forum apparently.
As this is a new section in the Lineage II forums, we're happy to consider any feedback or suggestions you have about it. Post your comments here!
See how he/she not made explicit that the sugestions had to be specificaly to new players, although this area is defined as "new to L2", but since everyone posted diferent opinions of the originial proposal, I tought that would be nice expose what im currently feeling about L2.
And tbh, to first get new players, NC should worry about how to keep their old ones.
I thought i'd give you a new players opinion. I just started playing Jan 11th.
The new player guide is nice but to be honest i had no problems at all catching on at the start of the game. What you really need is a guide on how to survive this game once you reach 40+ , because i didn't.
My reason for not renewing my account is that fact that i just cannot afford to play once i reached C-grade. The first character i got to 40 couldn't even afford common equipment. I found 2 ways to fix this. There is a repeatable quest in Dion that will get you about 10k adena in 10min. Although to do this quest you'll have to make a new character because at 41 ports cost $$ and it will cost 3x as much to do the quest than what you'd make from it. The other option is to use your remaining character slots and level them up to 20. Then sell what little they have and mail all the adena to your main character , and delete them.
The thing that keeps you from making any $$ in this game is soul/spiritshots. In D-grade you have the repeatable quest to do to keep up. Once you reach C grade you can't do that anymore, atleast not on that character. 5000 C-grade soulshots cost around 100k. You can go through this many shots in about 30-45min and in that time you will make nowhere near 100k back. Spiritshots are even worse. I tried a bunch of classes to see which one i liked. I ended up liking Spellhowler the best but i ended up deleting him because there was just no way i could afford to use C-grade spiritshots. I then decided to try a silver ranger since they have the slowest weapon i figured it would be the cheapest for using shots. I got him to 40 using dagger because i read on the web-site it was easier that way. Once i got him to 40 and went to buy a bow i saw that it used 10 shots instead of the 3 everyone else uses. So i deleted him right away, that was a whole week wasted. My point here is that , this last week i have been trying to find a class i can afford to play rather than playing a class i enjoy playing. Upon realizing this is when i cancelled my account.
You can of course not use ports and just run everywhere. You can also not use shots. Although any friends you make along the way will out level you pretty fast. You will also not be wanted in any group or raid if you dont use shots. It's just really hard being able to use ports and shots at lower levels then not being able to once you reach C-grade. It would actually be better if you didn't give anything to starting players so atleast we wouldn't miss it. The Vitality system has that feel also. It was nice having vitality but it goes so quick for someone like me who likes to play 4-8hrs per day. And it takes days of not playing to get it all back. If you wanted to keep 4 bars of vitality you could only play about 30min per day. I just dont know many people who would pay for a game they only wanted to play 30min a day. Would be better (atleast for the people who play a lot) to get rid of the vitality and just double the xp in the game.
I managed to find 2 raid groups in my month in the game. The first was in the 30's range and we killed close to a dozen raid mobs. 1/2 of these mobs didn't drop any loot at all and of the 1/2 that did , i didn't get anything. Although i got decent xp for doing these i went through a ton of adena for shots. Second raid was 40's and the same story. We killed about 6 mobs, 4 didn't drop anything and i didn't get anything again. I gained 1 level and went through about 400k in shots. After the raid i didn't play anymore because i had no more $$ to buy shots. Raid mobs really need some sort of adena drop that can be split between all participants.
I've talked to people about the problem i've been having with the economy. All of them always say the same thing. " Join a Clan! " To me though it just doesn't seem right that i would have to beg a clan for the adena it would take for me to continue playing. Not to mention it not being fair to them for having to pay it.
With all my complaints i'd like to end on a good note. I very much enjoyed playing the game from 1-40. So much so that even when i cancelled i continued to play. I would just get a character to 40 then quit playing them and start another. I can't speak for all servers but the community on Phoenix was top notch. Being old and grumpy as i am , it doesn't take much to go on my ignore. I didn't have anyone on it in this game. I can't even think of a single person i met in game that i disliked. Even the few people who killed me were rather civil about it. So thank you to the people on Phoenix server who were very helpful and friendly.
the game is fine and from the look of the update it looks like its getting even better.
its VERY easy to level as a new player, if it was any easyer then it would be boring and pointless.
the one and only thing i want to add as my feedback is that you actualy do your job and clear the servers of bots.
I thought i'd give you a new players opinion. I just started playing Jan 11th.
The new player guide is nice but to be honest i had no problems at all catching on at the start of the game. What you really need is a guide on how to survive this game once you reach 40+ , because i didn't.
My reason for not renewing my account is that fact that i just cannot afford to play once i reached C-grade. The first character i got to 40 couldn't even afford common equipment. I found 2 ways to fix this. There is a repeatable quest in Dion that will get you about 10k adena in 10min. Although to do this quest you'll have to make a new character because at 41 ports cost $$ and it will cost 3x as much to do the quest than what you'd make from it. The other option is to use your remaining character slots and level them up to 20. Then sell what little they have and mail all the adena to your main character , and delete them.
The thing that keeps you from making any $$ in this game is soul/spiritshots. In D-grade you have the repeatable quest to do to keep up. Once you reach C grade you can't do that anymore, atleast not on that character. 5000 C-grade soulshots cost around 100k. You can go through this many shots in about 30-45min and in that time you will make nowhere near 100k back. Spiritshots are even worse. I tried a bunch of classes to see which one i liked. I ended up liking Spellhowler the best but i ended up deleting him because there was just no way i could afford to use C-grade spiritshots. I then decided to try a silver ranger since they have the slowest weapon i figured it would be the cheapest for using shots. I got him to 40 using dagger because i read on the web-site it was easier that way. Once i got him to 40 and went to buy a bow i saw that it used 10 shots instead of the 3 everyone else uses. So i deleted him right away, that was a whole week wasted. My point here is that , this last week i have been trying to find a class i can afford to play rather than playing a class i enjoy playing. Upon realizing this is when i cancelled my account.
You can of course not use ports and just run everywhere. You can also not use shots. Although any friends you make along the way will out level you pretty fast. You will also not be wanted in any group or raid if you dont use shots. It's just really hard being able to use ports and shots at lower levels then not being able to once you reach C-grade. It would actually be better if you didn't give anything to starting players so atleast we wouldn't miss it. The Vitality system has that feel also. It was nice having vitality but it goes so quick for someone like me who likes to play 4-8hrs per day. And it takes days of not playing to get it all back. If you wanted to keep 4 bars of vitality you could only play about 30min per day. I just dont know many people who would pay for a game they only wanted to play 30min a day. Would be better (atleast for the people who play a lot) to get rid of the vitality and just double the xp in the game.
I managed to find 2 raid groups in my month in the game. The first was in the 30's range and we killed close to a dozen raid mobs. 1/2 of these mobs didn't drop any loot at all and of the 1/2 that did , i didn't get anything. Although i got decent xp for doing these i went through a ton of adena for shots. Second raid was 40's and the same story. We killed about 6 mobs, 4 didn't drop anything and i didn't get anything again. I gained 1 level and went through about 400k in shots. After the raid i didn't play anymore because i had no more $$ to buy shots. Raid mobs really need some sort of adena drop that can be split between all participants.
I've talked to people about the problem i've been having with the economy. All of them always say the same thing. " Join a Clan! " To me though it just doesn't seem right that i would have to beg a clan for the adena it would take for me to continue playing. Not to mention it not being fair to them for having to pay it.
With all my complaints i'd like to end on a good note. I very much enjoyed playing the game from 1-40. So much so that even when i cancelled i continued to play. I would just get a character to 40 then quit playing them and start another. I can't speak for all servers but the community on Phoenix was top notch. Being old and grumpy as i am , it doesn't take much to go on my ignore. I didn't have anyone on it in this game. I can't even think of a single person i met in game that i disliked. Even the few people who killed me were rather civil about it. So thank you to the people on Phoenix server who were very helpful and friendly.
Best of luck with your game,
Daiko
You should do these quest, it gives lots of XP, SP & money;
I've talked to people about the problem i've been having with the economy. All of them always say the same thing. " Join a Clan! " To me though it just doesn't seem right that i would have to beg a clan for the adena it would take for me to continue playing. Not to mention it not being fair to them for having to pay it.
It's not that these people are gonna pay for your soulshots (ofc they might :) )
But a clan can give you the info to be able to earn adena.
It's not that these people are gonna pay for your soulshots (ofc they might :) )
But a clan can give you the info to be able to earn adena.
That's pretty much it. In a clan, you'll get at lower levels:
* Advice how to proceed, what quests to make, what equipment to use, and how to make money. Also, which parts of the game to avoid if you don't have money spare for it.
* Extra buffs, which allow you to kill faster and not spend so much money on shots and pots.
* (Small) parties and duos with better-equipped clannies levelling up their sub-classes or alts, effectively powerlevelling you (as much as NCSoft hates the idea of powerlevelling).
* Generally, nice company. :)
On a side note, what the hell is wrong with the quote function on this sub-forum?
I have enjoyed the game for several years...i have seen things get easier.ie to become a noble...........i do enjoy this new event it is very different and fun .........i hope to see more events like this .....
In general, the economy offers more options for adena than questing. The time invested in the quests is simply not worth the adena that falls out of it.
I took a new clanmate (new to game) to cata the other night, we weren't partied there for an hour while I tried to teach him some things in that setting.
I let him have all the sealstones.
End of the day he couldn't keep an afk shop open so I converted his seal stones and sold them for him last night in roughly 2 hours. Tonight I'll give him 770,000 adena he earned.
In just about an hour--as a lowbie, with one experienced melee toon helping him in cata.
True, things don't always sell that well or that fast, but had we spent 3 hours while he was leveling and learning I could have given him 2.2-2.5 million in profits from that time. There is nothing else he could have done at his level except perhaps fishing (with some luck) that would net that kind of adena in the game. Certainly not quests.
The quests listed couldn't be completed in 10x that amount of time.
Agree that the manor is busted--and that is a shame.
Newbies have basically fishing, manor, and sealstones (+aa/consumables) as their market opportunities--and the manor is a tough one for them.
Both sealstones and fishing almost require them to leave their client open to sell (which is another topic all by itself).
And Aine makes my point from earlier--we should have simple walk-through type of guides in obvious and plain speech that introduce new players to the couple of mechanisms they have to earn extra adena. Otherwise they have no idea and quickly (QUICKLY) realize they can't afford stuff in the game. Those who won't turn to ebay simply stop playing in many cases.
They need help in the form of real information and assistance. Had someone helped him for a couple of hours he would have made millions of adena and felt a sense of accomplishment. Instead he didn't renew his subscription.
As I said before, there is little that points the new player towards the market economy or the manor within the game.
Last night another of our newest clan members (also new to the game) told me he has been selling his varnish to NPC shops. No one had gotten to him to tell him why that was a mistake. Varnish was selling recently at 1500 each--he sold over 40 of them to the npc shop. He had also sold his animal bone (1800+ recently) to NPC shops as well as "that mithril ore stuff I had a few of...."
At the time he & I finally ran across each other last night he had only 45,000 adena left.......
There should be a disclaimer at NPC shops in starter areas that tells newbies "wait! consider selling your mats at market rates to other players in the game!"
What's the use drop/spoil parts of items sold now in shop, and common?
Add adenas on Raid bosses, brez pets, sp crystals, various pots, dim diamonds... whatever you want but those useless parts.
As told in other replies, raise quest rewards. At least try the game on time just doing those quests, you'll understand what players means by totally useless ;)
as nice and consise as your command to "fix" the spoil tables is, aghen, insight into why you think it is broken, and solutions to those specific issues would further help whoever is reading to understand what you mean by Fix, and why you want it so.
-Kill all "newbie buffs guys"... It's a pain to level up a "enchanter" class because of that and it will help buffer class to get party.
-Stop the XP bonus on lv 1-20 with the newbie guide... Some quests on these levels are funny and interesting but getting lvl 20 is incredibly fast and kill all the interest of the game at these lvl :(
-do some quests like "how to". For example,a quest lvl 5-7 how to learn a skill, a quest lvl 20 : "how to enchant?", a quest lvl 46 : "how to put LS" etc etc... would be nice for new players (if there are some)...
-and please, don't blame me if i like low levels :]
-Kill all "newbie buffs guys"... It's a pain to level up a "enchanter" class because of that and it will help buffer class to get party.
-Stop the XP bonus on lv 1-20 with the newbie guide... Some quests on these levels are funny and interesting but getting lvl 20 is incredibly fast and kill all the interest of the game at these lvl :(
-do some quests like "how to". For example,a quest lvl 5-7 how to learn a skill, a quest lvl 20 : "how to enchant?", a quest lvl 46 : "how to put LS" etc etc... would be nice for new players (if there are some)...
-and please, don't blame me if i like low levels :]
www.hellokittyonline.com would be a better place for people to play if they need quest such as those to figure out simple game mechanics.
i remember being confused seeing glowy weapons for the first time, and enchanting via scroll isnt something newer games tend to use. i'd put money on the weapon enhancement features going unnoticed by quite a few new players.
I Think NC Soft needs to advertise this game to the public. The only way people hear of this game is threw word of mouth. Make a commercial or some posters or something so more people hear bout the game. just my 2cents
-Kill all "newbie buffs guys"... It's a pain to level up a "enchanter" class because of that and it will help buffer class to get party.
-Stop the XP bonus on lv 1-20 with the newbie guide... Some quests on these levels are funny and interesting but getting lvl 20 is incredibly fast and kill all the interest of the game at these lvl :(
-do some quests like "how to". For example,a quest lvl 5-7 how to learn a skill, a quest lvl 20 : "how to enchant?", a quest lvl 46 : "how to put LS" etc etc... would be nice for new players (if there are some)...
-and please, don't blame me if i like low levels :]
As a new player, I disagree with you 100%. I didn't see a single person during my first 20 levels. I wanted to get out of those levels as quickly as possible. Not to mention new players don't want to stick around the lower levels at all; we want to be competing with everyone else as soon as possible.
There is no need for a quest explaining how to learn skills. When you reach the level where learning skills is possible, a notification pops up informing you that you can do so and it even tells you where to go. After level 20, everyone should be partying whether it be in the catacombs or in the Kamaloka. You can learn, like I did, volumes of information from other players. Especially so if you join a clan.
And I don't blame you for liking the low levels. That's all well and good. But if you don't want the newbie guides, don't use them. Don't do the quests that shoot you through level 1 to 19. Level up the old fashioned way.
I was at HS, casually leveling a lowbie alt when a bot train choo-choo'd my way and started KS'ing me. I got annoyed enough to actually report them (via petiton mind you!) and 2 minutes!!!!! later I got a reply from a GM, and... the bots were gone :O
They popped up again 5 mins later just to disapear again, and when they logged in, half the train was missing, and one by one disapeared.
Good job to whoever GM did this. And good job to who gave the new L2 site that layout change to. Good job to Sace for not only posting and talking to us, but also trying out the game. My L2-experience has tremendously improved, just in the last few weeks, keep it up!
In order to make the game more enjoyable and attract more players you have to make the game more "noob friendly" , the game as it is its simply to much hardcore for anyone to start it now, the game have improved this aspect but more has to be done.The bot issue isn't entirely a bad one, the bot brought a lot of people to this game and a lot of players including myself botted in the past because it was simply to easy to get levels and the best part of the game is the higher levels. just my opinion, unban all banned accounts that payed for more then 6months and are banned for over 6 months and don't let anyone bot, i mean it cant be that hard. A lot of people are banned and wont come back because they played a lot too and don't want to start over while big guys are banned and get back one week later , nobody understands how...
Try make every character useful with another, places to hunt with small partys, improve the quest rewards(questing is almost useless in this game) and more and better events. This game is one of the best i ever played but the hardcore involved and the bot ruined the game.
Everybody complaints about when you want to sell you have to be in shop in town, if you remove the bots it wont be a problem because everyone will have time to let an afk shop in town, although it would be good to have an action house where you could put your items selling and anyone could see it just by going to an npc in any town, you could then collect the Adena in the npc paying a fixed amount of Adena for that service.
Fix raid drops , most raid bosses dont drop or drop something ridiculous that its not worth fighting for, they should only drop full items not parts, also fix epic bosses , i did honestly more than 50 antharas/valakas/aq/zaken/frintezza/core/orphen and never ever got one epic out from it, a quest should be available for any epic boss, kill antharas 50x = antharas earing or something like this.
Sace, thanks for opening this "dangerous thread" (yeah, I know, some of the suggestions simple don't make any sense at all), but this shows your interest on the Lineage 2 community.
- Stop by every now and then into the servers for like 1 hour or so to meet people in town like Lyzira did in the past. In my 3 years of playing Lineage I've never seen a GM before and I missed that chance with Lyzira and others. This will be a nice "virtual introduction" and great opportunity.
- I know you heard this, but the official site for Lineage 2 does not have the latest updated information about the game. Most players, including myself, venture to look for another links on other websites to get information about the game. I'm still asking myself how the official website for Lineage 2 does not have updated information about the game. It is like a car dealer with no specs for the latest cars selling.
as nice and consise as your command to "fix" the spoil tables is, aghen, insight into why you think it is broken, and solutions to those specific issues would further help whoever is reading to understand what you mean by Fix, and why you want it so.
yes, you right, i've been a bit short (normal for a dorf :D).
spoiling mats for only C crafts on mobs 76+ is ridiculous
spoiling tons of met fibers on all mobs of HB is ridiculous
not be able to spoil basic mats (varnish, ani bones and so on) for a FS is ridiculous
not be able to spoil high lvl mats (mithril alloy, VoP and so on) is ridiculous
u'll say "use manor system". ok, but why to be a FS if i have to do like others classes to have what i had when i was low lvl?
i don't want that all mats/parts could be spoiled on all mobs, be some spot could spoil some things, and other spot other things. For S80 parts, things have well designed imo. why not for mats?
Spoil and Manor system is boring...
I keep saying stop the misery of materials, adenas and items, try to make the game be more popular ...
Everyone should be able to colect their materials with their chars, feel that it is possible and perform ....
more tests on the players first if you think they are doing something wrong
GM's that dont ban players that have done nothing wrong
More events that give better rewards
songs dances and all buffs to last longer
yeah )) make all buffs and songs/dances 1hr long haha
dont think they will do that with buffs, but everything is possible
they did already newbie buff up to lvl 75 wow, may be they can extend this up to 85 so non duo boxers will have more fun haha, but what about SE, PP, WC, EE up to 75 no one pretty much need them anymore, Hmm especially PP forever forgotten TOON by Korea and NA/EU, let them learn some skills from SE, EE, Bishop why not? so many ppl chose WC over PP now days, and we all know the answer to the question "WHY?", not that hard to make extra money for Spirit Ore :)
Spoil and Manor system is boring...
I keep saying stop the misery of materials, adenas and items, try to make the game be more popular ...
Everyone should be able to colect their materials with their chars, feel that it is possible and perform ....
but in this case, what will be the future of dorfs?
agree with Aghen, if they take away spoil then WS would be the only class in L2 who will represent dorfs, in that case improve craft % or remove 60%-70% recepiees from the game, I love how dorfs look, from my honest opinion they look THE BEST out of all characters in this game, short - fat who likes beer and short - skinny, who likes to dance around, and NCsoft should give dorfs the future, and cut all OP kamaels, Orcs (who stuns), Glads ( who shoots like Harry Potters ), I would love to see more spoil available on 75+ AB, AS, CBP, Steel, Coal, Charcoal, Varnish, Leather, Metallic Thread, and so on, remove the manor and give us more spoil. Why do i need dynasty in i cant spoil mats for it, all i can do is +++ my trade slots and trade trade trade "awesome", and why only Dorfs and PPs are left out in the forrest (((
I have to agree with the getting rid of the 60% and 70% recs. They do nothing but add frustration to the game. If you want to keep the recs at 60 and 70%, fine, but then let only the rec. disappear on a failed craft. Or Maybe just the rec and the gems, or crystals, but to lose everything on a failed craft really, really, REALLY stinks.
If you dont like that idea as it will only make mat prices cheaper, then let a failed craft make a common weapon or maybe even a "flawed" weapon that you would have to find the BS of Mammon and do a quest to repair the weapon.
I have actually given up crafting on my dwarf for that very reason and I know of a lot of others that have quit crafting too. After failing 2 S weapon crafts in a row and losing everything both times. It was just too much for me and I banked the coals on my forge and converted my anvil into a coffee table.
I was at HS, casually leveling a lowbie alt when a bot train choo-choo'd my way and started KS'ing me. I got annoyed enough to actually report them (via petiton mind you!) and 2 minutes!!!!! later I got a reply from a GM, and... the bots were gone :O
They popped up again 5 mins later just to disapear again, and when they logged in, half the train was missing, and one by one disapeared.
Good job to whoever GM did this. And good job to who gave the new L2 site that layout change to. Good job to Sace for not only posting and talking to us, but also trying out the game. My L2-experience has tremendously improved, just in the last few weeks, keep it up!
PS: just please enable BB-code in this thread :D
I totally agree how the GM's are actually making a great effort to clean up this game now. I play on Aria, and there was a whole bot train of people out on Hellbound at arcanes recently. After sending in a few emails and a petition the train was gone. Its really really glad to see the GMs doing their job so accurately on time. Especially on aria when a long time unfair player Betina actually got what he deserved.
Sace, I love NCSoft for this event ^^
My account still active, i login today to see this event, and its cool!
For a 2 hour got ~60%, and still vitality full :)
I think full Vit for 2 weeks is too much. I enjoy the exp but i think if you had exp weekends once a month it would give everyone something to look forward to.
Something should be done about obtaining equipment. Maybe more questing.Once you get past Common its almost impossible for a solo player to afford the equipment.
Hire an actual "in-world" Community Support person or 2. You'd be surprised what that would do for morale if people saw someone in game every now and then.
I think full Vit for 2 weeks is too much. I enjoy the exp but i think if you had exp weekends once a month it would give everyone something to look forward to.
Something should be done about obtaining equipment. Maybe more questing.Once you get past Common its almost impossible for a solo player to afford the equipment.
Maybe ppl are supposed to join a clan so ppl can help eachother with gear?
I am at lv78:10% i hope i am able to get lv79 when the event ends. Cause without those rose pedals thingies no vitality regeneration:D gogo me lol, anyway good event
Maybe ppl are supposed to join a clan so ppl can help eachother with gear?
Just a thought.
well many clans dont help cause there are to many ppl that join clan, get gear and then leave clan. Same problem with the BossJew. They give it to player that they can trust 100%. So most of time ppl they now in rl.
They should make it possiblem to make armors to clan armors, so when they leave clan the clan stuff go into clan wh.
what about a new server without any transfer possible but bot allowed? you will be surprised when it reaches full capacity in few weeks.
BAN ALL BOTTERS in all servers, its unfair for some to be aloowed to bot and get 85/80/80/80 and some others banned at 7x... at least if u ban botters , ban them all...
and once we craft lots more what do we do with it sell it to a NPC?
You can do anything u want: sell it, borrow to a friend, make crystals, no matter, just be free ...
Bots dont will sell nothing anymore because no one will need buy ...
If you dont wanna get more itens, continue suffering on grade S using grade A equips ...
The quest system needs to be totally redone. You should be able to do quest and get good money, XP and items.
Make an Auction house but dont get rid of the player shops.
We need more content expecially at the lower levels. Right now its just a race to high level because people see thats where the action is. Make people enjoy being D, C, B and A grade.
Maybe ppl are supposed to join a clan so ppl can help eachother with gear?
Just a thought.
Many clans aren't so open to helping with gear. Especially with gear costing so much to even get. I'm in a clan that is pretty helpful, but I'm still sitting in B/A Gear at level 78 almost 79. Quests suck as well. There is absolutely no quest that I see worth doing outside of the S80 rec quests which still aren't really that great at this point.
I also agree that the crafting system blows right now. Mats should at least be able to be gotten at higher levels rather then only getting key mats practically at higher levels.
As for the exp event, I like it. I think its fantastic because without things like this the gap gets larger within the population. Imho 79-85 takes far too long compared to what it takes to go 1-78. Not everyone can get up and get a duo with OOP support to AoE tullies in HB to get those levels like the factor clans do. With the increasingly high player base there should be an outlet to get adena, geared, and leveled to an extent without having to devote your life to the game and hope you get a lucky full drop to actually afford one armor piece.
I know exp has gotten a lot easier to get lately, especially with the events, and vitality but imho when it takes 2+ months to get one level at 79+ there is a problem with that. Yes, l2 is a grind game but it doesn't have to be your life and it shouldn't have to be.
As this is for players feedback I would like to ask about official plans with setting up L2's database as they do have in Korea with full list of droops etc. As korea has it I don't think it should be too hard to implement it here as only translations are needed.
Many clans aren't so open to helping with gear. Especially with gear costing so much to even get. I'm in a clan that is pretty helpful, but I'm still sitting in B/A Gear at level 78 almost 79. Quests suck as well. There is absolutely no quest that I see worth doing outside of the S80 rec quests which still aren't really that great at this point.
I also agree that the crafting system blows right now. Mats should at least be able to be gotten at higher levels rather then only getting key mats practically at higher levels.
As for the exp event, I like it. I think its fantastic because without things like this the gap gets larger within the population. Imho 79-85 takes far too long compared to what it takes to go 1-78. Not everyone can get up and get a duo with OOP support to AoE tullies in HB to get those levels like the factor clans do. With the increasingly high player base there should be an outlet to get adena, geared, and leveled to an extent without having to devote your life to the game and hope you get a lucky full drop to actually afford one armor piece.
I know exp has gotten a lot easier to get lately, especially with the events, and vitality but imho when it takes 2+ months to get one level at 79+ there is a problem with that. Yes, l2 is a grind game but it doesn't have to be your life and it shouldn't have to be.
on the contrary, S80 armor is pretty cheap to craft; besides that I could farm all my own recs (which means they have very low value because everyone can farm their own set of armor recipes easily), I was able to buy the key mats cheap as well with a buy shop, so the set was really not very much to make, it was the elementing that cost the most. In addition, all low S gear is very cheap now too because all the S80 people are unloading it. If you are still in B/A at 78 I think you need to stop xping (after the event ofc) and spend some time crafting and selling so you can get some proper gear.
Some quests are still worth doing for instance MOS/Pagans quests give EWS and EAS which everyone will ALWAYS need. Many new areas also drop element stones which also still hold their value. And 2 months per level 79+ is reasonable. I was 79 for what seemed like forever, but this game is nearly 6 years old now, and I don't agree with getting to 85 in under a year. There SHOULD be some advantage for those of us who have been playing for many many years already, and a high xp requirement at top levels is ok. It keeps most of the impatient, immature kiddies who would otherwise ruin the game in WoW.
AUCTION HOUSE !!!
WE NEED ONE !!! Private sell sucks !!!
I agree that Private sell sucks. I think that either an auction house would be good, or common S grade sold in NPC stores, but only low quality stuff. It's far to expensive for the casual player to get hundreds of millions of adena. You know how non-Giran towns sell the low no grade stuff? That's how it should work for S-Grade...spend maybe twenty million of low common items, rather than hundreds of millions from players who could probably afford to make it cheaper. It's becaues there is too much demand and not enough competition. Having an NPC vendor who could sell low S grade common items would certainly improve the economy in my opinion.
how an auction house will become an "bot supremacy?"
could you explain please?
an auction house would favor much, much more the market! i cant think why not this.
there are lot people that have many stuff to sell but dont wanna be sitted on the city to do it... im one of them
but it will never happen, cause with an auction house, some ppl will not have to pay one more acc just to sell stuff at the city.
I agree that Private sell sucks. I think that either an auction house would be good, or common S grade sold in NPC stores, but only low quality stuff. It's far to expensive for the casual player to get hundreds of millions of adena. You know how non-Giran towns sell the low no grade stuff? That's how it should work for S-Grade...spend maybe twenty million of low common items, rather than hundreds of millions from players who could probably afford to make it cheaper. It's becaues there is too much demand and not enough competition. Having an NPC vendor who could sell low S grade common items would certainly improve the economy in my opinion.
Just a comment on the S Grade. What makes S Grade special is that you can element the armour and the weapons. In common form you won't be able to do that, thereby negating the value.
I think it would be better to revisit the manor system so that the botters and castle lords (unknowingly of course) cannot cheat. Allow all players to have the ability to Earn their equipment through being able to obtain the raw materials, recipes and keys and craft them.
perhaps they should also take out the demand to have the recipe also as a material. Now you need two recipes and these recipes are extremely rare...
also private selling is annoying and bad for the environment. Some stuff need to be on the market for days. That means I have to keep my computer on in order to sell it; for days! Many times NC seems to see my private store as an inactive user, I am continuously disconnected with private store and seldom in game..
Im a Auction House supporter. I wont sit in town, trying to sell anything. An AH would help me and others, because i wouldnt sell Keymats to NSC, like i do now.
Im not playing a Market Game, im just not intrested in that aspect of a Game.
So i would wish for better drop and spoilrate for Materials and an unlimited Manor system. I like to Hunt for my Materials, but i never will play Monopoly in a MMORPG.
perhaps they should also take out the demand to have the recipe also as a material. Now you need two recipes and these recipes are extremely rare...
also private selling is annoying and bad for the environment. Some stuff need to be on the market for days. That means I have to keep my computer on in order to sell it; for days! Many times NC seems to see my private store as an inactive user, I am continuously disconnected with private store and seldom in game..
Save the environment, stop private selling :)
You actually make a very good point.
think about all the electricity that is being wasted because computers have to be left on.
I stopped overnight selling of shots because i didn't want to waste electricity.
We should think more about our earth and how we in the "have" just waste the resources for our own pleasure.
Please don`t use (unless you are being sarcastic) "we care with Earth and the environment argument" to defend auction houses...
Its the most hypocritical argument around here: if you love so much the environment just stop wasting resources playing Lineage 2, and quit the game.
I would like to point also this: why NCSoft don´t revamp all manor system, making the system working like a npc merchant company absolutly free of control of any clan...?
Please don`t use (unless you are being sarcastic) "we care with Earth and the environment argument" to defend auction houses...
Its the most hypocritical argument around here: if you love so much the environment just stop wasting resources playing Lineage 2, and quit the game.
I would like to point also this: why NCSoft don´t revamp all manor system, making the system working like a npc merchant company absolutly free of control of any clan...?
Thats actually a good idea.
Lower the rewards to atleast half if not less, and make the npc's buy as much as you can sell to them.
That way no surplus of fruits is generated.
Ofc that would leave only competition for buying the seeds, unless that is changed too.
Please don`t use (unless you are being sarcastic) "we care with Earth and the environment argument" to defend auction houses...
Its the most hypocritical argument around here: if you love so much the environment just stop wasting resources playing Lineage 2, and quit the game.
I would like to point also this: why NCSoft don´t revamp all manor system, making the system working like a npc merchant company absolutly free of control of any clan...?
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Sorry to not agree, like that you can say all of these arguments are hypocritical always. Don't use saving lights because you should not use lights at all. Don't use energy save fridges because you should not use a fridge at all. Just don't select a LED tv because it doesn't matter that it is more energy save, u should not watch television to save resources....
Next to that energy saving is not only for the environment, it is for my wallet as well... why should it cost more than necessary? Private selling is annoying, costs extra energy and thus money, and you are disconnected all the time (on purpose?)
I am all in favor of an Auction House, my shop gets disconnected all the time. But since NCSoft will never do that as another option let us make Offline mode shop
The answer to this question will spiral an off topic debate that has already happened 1000x on these forums.
Suffice it to say that with everything else as it is now, there can be no assistance for new/prospective players if an AH is introduced.
They may as well look up the websites for buying adena on that day because no regular player will ever make another sale after that moment of AH introduction.
Today the sellshops have some issues--some of them are serious. Longstanding AFK shops are expensive (personally in real life) to keep open, they tend to randomly disconnect, some players can't (or don't believe they should) leave their client/computer running, etc.
Overall, the in-game economy system is not simple, it's not intuitive, it takes a lot of TIME....all true. It isn't particularly easy and it isn't fast.
So perhaps some "reform" should occur. I'd be open to that. Let's see some changes in drop tables and lets put up some simply worded guides on adena earning (as I posted earlier in this thread) for newbies so they don't feel they HAVE to become the next ebayer. Let's change the client so a sellshop can remain open while your computer is shut down.
There are other ideas out there too.
But an AH will not solve any of the issues for players today. It isn't (and if you think about it, CAN'T be) part of any solution to economic issues in-game.
I don't want to debate AH value again. It's a monumentally stupid concept and the day it is implemented real players will not engage in economy again.
It's like saying you have a problem with "cows getting out of the pasture" and deciding that "jumping off a skyscraper" sounds like a fine solution. Jumping off the skyscraper won't keep the cows in the pasture and is a poor idea all around for the jumper.
Reform for in-game econ systems? Absolutely. That would help new players. AH? That will crush all new players for all time.
This will be my first post on this topic... a second will come later...
To keep people in game or make people to stay i suggest u this steps.
1.
Ban Bots (with banning bots i dont mean only the farmers. Watch Phoenix for example almost 99% of big clans players, playing with other 3rd party programms. Was watching them till wartag is close wooops all reloged , and no he was MILES away wel we use to see that every day and thats bad...Watch this out and other programs that has to do with the pvp aswell. It is a big problem for me and other players too.Also all i ask is FAIR PLAY.)
2.
Some game classes are really weak to others.. Balance it out.. Every class need to be able to kill every other class.
3.
Some classes are weak for exp too..Everyone perfers to solo .. so i suggest add a big bonus on EXP for the ppl who has a party 6+ persons i say. Make players also to party and not to Solo
4.
Help people with the EXP some numbers of exp 81+ are just crazy plus dont inrease level cap YET this is one more point why people leave game or dont even bother to start it.
number 1 is for me personnlay the most importand one.
Please don`t use (unless you are being sarcastic) "we care with Earth and the environment argument" to defend auction houses...
Its the most hypocritical argument around here: if you love so much the environment just stop wasting resources playing Lineage 2, and quit the game.
I would like to point also this: why NCSoft don´t revamp all manor system, making the system working like a npc merchant company absolutly free of control of any clan...?
I still favor the action house. private sell does not work well and everyone knows it. I bet no one likes having to wait several days to sell, leave your computer on and usually use more than one account to have more success.
But your idea is good, let's all close ours accounts and let theses guys trying to make your private sellers works ... My time card expires today and I do not have much time to waste in giran, then good bye for all and good luck to all who wait for ncsoft ... :P
*even the crap the quotes they had fixed so far. ..
This is the second post that has something to do with other things.
1.
New/Old Players should be able to watch DROP/SPOIL rates from every mob. This should be Updated same time when a new chronicle starts. So people wont look on other unofficial sites.
Same with crafting recipes.
2.
GM's should watch more often the servers and watch around not only about bots(if u cant handle and u think these is to many work just merge euro with euro , US with US servers no point to have empty servers at all).About chat i would say too. There are not only 18+ they playing the game and u should watch out especially hero shouts and shouts.
3.
U should make some simple things in game easier. For example Teleports .. it costs so mutch to teleport from one village to another.. And if u kill one mob u get about 1/10 in adenas back . (not counting ss or anyhting else).Or for exa,mple u buy cursed bones only from hardyns and not on all town stores..
4.
Focus on players they are at this point 78-82 (thoose are almost the only non boted chars or non bought chars) help to keep them in game.
5.
New player they start now theyve got it pretty easy but i do think there is a problem on the levels 62-76 that makes them stop beacuse it looks hard for them or at lest it has nothing to spend time around exept lvling ( and of course soloing most of them) so add something on this lvls that gona keep them in game.
6.
More events make people log more often. Especially when the event has to do with Vitallity.*(watching back the last event, my server had so mutch acivity even old people reactivated)
7.
After every lvl HP/MP is full recovered. Give Full vitallity recover aswell , this will make ppl happy and ofc will make people try harder to level up.
8.
U should manage something with the clans aswell..There are lots of small clans around ,10-15 actives per day , they are not suposed to join big forces and they feel well together but..they cant do anything even if they have the high lvls or the right lvls to do something.
9.
Damages on pvp game are just crap.. 1 shoting persons isnt fun or at elast it isnt pvp. Pvp would be great to hold longer.
10.
Manage Olympiad.. Arround all other the server u see almost 99% only feeded and boxed heros.
(Now we talk about Oly..PLZ REMOVE THE OLYSHOUTS JUST ONLY 1 SHOUT IS ENOUGHT!!)
this is the second post that has something to do with other things.
1.
New/old players should be able to watch drop/spoil rates from every mob. This should be updated same time when a new chronicle starts. So people wont look on other unofficial sites.
Same with crafting recipes.
2.
Gm's should watch more often the servers and watch around not only about bots(if u cant handle and u think these is to many work just merge euro with euro , us with us servers no point to have empty servers at all).about chat i would say too. There are not only 18+ they playing the game and u should watch out especially hero shouts and shouts.
3.
U should make some simple things in game easier. For example teleports .. It costs so mutch to teleport from one village to another.. And if u kill one mob u get about 1/10 in adenas back . (not counting ss or anyhting else).or for exa,mple u buy cursed bones only from hardyns and not on all town stores..
4.
Focus on players they are at this point 78-82 (thoose are almost the only non boted chars or non bought chars) help to keep them in game.
5.
New player they start now theyve got it pretty easy but i do think there is a problem on the levels 62-76 that makes them stop beacuse it looks hard for them or at lest it has nothing to spend time around exept lvling ( and of course soloing most of them) so add something on this lvls that gona keep them in game.
6.
More events make people log more often. Especially when the event has to do with vitallity.*(watching back the last event, my server had so mutch acivity even old people reactivated)
7.
After every lvl hp/mp is full recovered. Give full vitallity recover aswell , this will make ppl happy and ofc will make people try harder to level up.
8.
U should manage something with the clans aswell..there are lots of small clans around ,10-15 actives per day , they are not suposed to join big forces and they feel well together but..they cant do anything even if they have the high lvls or the right lvls to do something.
9.
Damages on pvp game are just crap.. 1 shoting persons isnt fun or at elast it isnt pvp. Pvp would be great to hold longer.
10.
Manage olympiad.. Arround all other the server u see almost 99% only feeded and boxed heros.
(now we talk about oly..plz remove the olyshouts just only 1 shout is enought!!)
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"After every lvl hp/mp is full recovered. Give full vitallity recover aswell , this will make ppl happy and ofc will make people try harder to level up."
Then just remove vitality. What is the purpose? That you stop playing for your own health? Because it doesn't work against bots if they where thinking that...
do something with the manor, make it some kind of a puzzle when needing to buy seeds/sell crops....
bots are killing me.....Beacher (naked dwarf in Giran - Phoenix) is killing me...this boot is changing crops like a .....tired of counting, atomic watches and broken fingers, can't beat him...:(
The whole manor system is an intriguing question. It would seem funny that with the new recipes for the high end armour being easy to find..the RMT guys would suffer...but wait now... the way that NC West designed the new manor system...no problem...the base mats become hard to get since anyone that doesn't Bots can't script the seeds or the turn in. Hence the RMT guys just get their Adena to sell in a different way.
I complained bitterly to Lyriza. She told me that what NC West asked for was not what was implemented. NC West did not want what they got and would look into it. Then she left (by choice?) a few days after. As Karigan says i shouldn't look for conspiricies (sp?) but NC West has LIED to their players for 6+ years so anything is possible.
Then we get King Bot who pulls a fast one on a few people (that have played the game for 5+ years) making a killing on mats via the manor. I mean if i was running the manor and someone, that i never heard of, asked me to up the rewards to max on crops with the promise of paying me back....of course i would do it...why wouldn't i trust this guy ;p
Will NC West change it...i sincerely doubt it...the RMT guys are just too important to their revenues.
Is there a pattern here??
Btw i was glad that on Phoenix Adens crops are only 5x times what the other castles are on Twin Coba (or something like that) at least they are not too greedy ;p
The whole manor system is an intriguing question. It would seem funny that with the new recipes for the high end armour being easy to find..the RMT guys would suffer...but wait now... the way that NC West designed the new manor system...no problem...the base mats become hard to get since anyone that doesn't Bots can't script the seeds or the turn in. Hence the RMT guys just get their Adena to sell in a different way.
I complained bitterly to Lyriza. She told me that what NC West asked for was not what was implemented. NC West did not want what they got and would look into it. Then she left (by choice?) a few days after. As Karigan says i shouldn't look for conspiricies (sp?) but NC West has LIED to their players for 6+ years so anything is possible.
Then we get King Bot who pulls a fast one on a few people (that have played the game for 5+ years) making a killing on mats via the manor. I mean if i was running the manor and someone, that i never heard of, asked me to up the rewards to max on crops with the promise of paying me back....of course i would do it...why wouldn't i trust this guy ;p
Will NC West change it...i sincerely doubt it...the RMT guys are just too important to their revenues.
Is there a pattern here??
Btw i was glad that on Phoenix Adens crops are only 5x times what the other castles are on Twin Coba (or something like that) at least they are not too greedy ;p
I guess, a good example, of where getting items in game easily by legit means, doesn't really hurt or help the RMT folks is WOW. They still thrive.
The whole manor system is an intriguing question. It would seem funny that with the new recipes for the high end armour being easy to find..the RMT guys would suffer...but wait now... the way that NC West designed the new manor system...no problem...the base mats become hard to get since anyone that doesn't Bots can't script the seeds or the turn in. Hence the RMT guys just get their Adena to sell in a different way.
I complained bitterly to Lyriza. She told me that what NC West asked for was not what was implemented. NC West did not want what they got and would look into it. Then she left (by choice?) a few days after. As Karigan says i shouldn't look for conspiricies (sp?) but NC West has LIED to their players for 6+ years so anything is possible.
Then we get King Bot who pulls a fast one on a few people (that have played the game for 5+ years) making a killing on mats via the manor. I mean if i was running the manor and someone, that i never heard of, asked me to up the rewards to max on crops with the promise of paying me back....of course i would do it...why wouldn't i trust this guy ;p
Will NC West change it...i sincerely doubt it...the RMT guys are just too important to their revenues.
Is there a pattern here??
Btw i was glad that on Phoenix Adens crops are only 5x times what the other castles are on Twin Coba (or something like that) at least they are not too greedy ;p
No, NC West hasn't lied to you for years, NC West is considered the Seattle office. The folks in the Austin office have lied to you for years otherwise known as the NC Austin (Canned Response Team)
why why why why why remove the rose neckless??
as an archer they are such a help when i run out of mp or in full grps to help on dmg.
and in raids/pvp they they help a lot cause they heal.
plese dont remove them, no need to. at a time they will all varnish anyway.
To get back more new players you need to return the sense of acomplishment and usefullness of the low level players. Not they get lot of freebies but nothing to keep them interested and this all only serves to tell them "Get quickly to lvl 78 by any means or get lost - you are completely useless here"
1. Rethink the quests and make them usefull
2. Return to A graders a reason to exist - when I started the game they were something; now if you are under lvl 78 you are nothing. This probably will mean events (sieges, quests with worthy rewards etc) which are available up to A grade at most...
Character transfer between accounts would be a nice service to have, I wouldn't mind paying to swap characters between my 2 accounts.
Yeah I know they will be some who will use them to sell accounts but I think that a way to keep track of them could be found.
My reason for using this service would be : DC Destro and BH are on the same account, yeah i know wasn;t that smart but i used them for seeding and farming and they kind of grew up on me :D
keep up with events like the last one; imo this game is really awesome for pvp. so give the legit ppl chance to lvl up faster and play pvp @ higher lvs rather then the mindless grind.
Well this ivent was cool xp was very good for one week
I hope to see more ivents like this up soon
Maybe a new ivent with rewards like will and elementals will be very good for ppl without strong clan and adena to afort in action or market but i think this is just a dream for us
So i hope new update give as the oportunity to take this books easy
The last 3 days i have been trying the manor with my little dwarfie warsmith..using seed: twin codran (charcoal & mold lubricant) and i have been very succesfull in returning the crops, but maybe i was just lucky:)
*increased adena drop in the upper spots (especially the newly reworked 80+ areas) if i can solo a toon at 52 and make 2-4k adena per mob using b shots at least let it be taken into consideration that at s grade ill most likely be using s shots that are roughly 5x more expensive to craft/purchase and see that reflected in the adena drop rate
*Higher level mat drops(mith alloy, synth cokes) or increased base mat drop in some of the newly reworked areas (so far best place i seen for iron ore is still pagans chapel like 10-30 roughly iron per drop, would be nice to see these kinda drops elsewhere)
*better xp/drops at varka/ketra or a new spot to do quests to obtain s grade armor, i know on my server at least s grade gear is going down in price (for now at least as many ppl are sellin to obtain s80) but it would be nice to see better spots to farm these recs and break the monotony of the varka/ketra fields.
*more rewarding quests(better adena rewards overall and some useable items)
*maybe rework kratels cubic for better rewards and more lvl oppurtunities(it was fun but the best thing i seen in there was the top s grade shirt at a very high price)
* >.> an s80 fishing pole that can be obtained from a quest(id rather not spend 30 mil on a fishing pole) (along with some xp for those that arent fisherman)
I think all is needed is events, and ofc more advertising of the game.
So much people wanted to xp in aoe parties and all couse of this event it was crazy, everybody was active ppl reactivated accounts i had lot of fun with all people around those days of valentines event
Also i would add events that like idk leave some items u can use that improve ur char like idk shirts that give +str permanently or idk some kind of ring like the one from epic quest stuffs like that. Also why not circlets that give some kind stat or a permanent buff like zerk or btb idk those would be ncie. Also when u put a feedback thread its nice to see but also would be cool if more GMs or stuff were answering around in the thread
You asked for my 2cents here it is:
I did not enjoy the event because i am a student and currently have a very busy schedule so was not able to fully participate as much as other players. had the event given something like the revita pops that i could use when it was more convenient it would have been great. I cannot schedule my life around this game it would be great if the events would reflect that since games should be played at the players convenience.
This event was one of the best! I agree when is saÃ*d that we need more events! To be honest, o think we need as many as can offer! That will not increase more players to show up but also To stay too!!
I agree also with more returning quests in adena, xp, and in materials! Why not make a event in which all players can get, not adena, but more materials?? That only will drop prices and will give the chance To all players aspire in getting An S gear...
NCsoft:
- You've should have made weekly bannings since Prelude (which didn't happen!).
You can start by doing that, even though there are more bans still not enough.
Should be done weekly
- Focus more on cheaters not only botters but as well as 3rd party Radar programs which allow players to automaticlly spam CP pots etc.
- Faster response from Admin / Head Admins
- Since NCsoft failed Since prelude in banning unlegit players, the gametime to play should become alot less expensive a month then it is right now.
This way you probally would attract alot more people that are currently playing on Private servers, not to mention you should take more action to those private servers to take them down.
- Close servers that don't have a high population. (give the players a Free transfer solution, including there Warehouse). 2 NA 2 EU servers should be enough.
- Advertisement in North America and Europe would help to increase the amount of players as well as you can see in World of Warcraft which is a ty game in my opinion.
- Account services shouldn't be as expensive as they are currently. (If they are cheaper more people would use them and in the end would be same amount of money your earn right now.
- More event's, should be on montly bases for at least 1 week.
Character / Race / Classes:
- Races / Class should be more balanced out in the game.
- Alot more new skills to keep the classes interesting, and all classes should be able to solo exp.
- Add a new race besides Kamael.
- New class for every race / Dwarfs should get a warrior/mage class.
Quests:
- More quests to obtain better equipment / adena / exp / sp / Vitality point rewards and materials.
- More quests that are party related.
- Quests after finishing them you receive a special bonus on your Equipment suchs as Jewelery/amor or on Weapon.
Raids:
- Vitality points that are rewarded by killing Raid bosses should be increased.
- Alot more different equipment / items should be dropped by killing raidbosses
Leveling:
- More leveling spots for solo and party.
- It should be easier to lvl from 80 to 85 the amount of experience you need to get from 80 to 85 is hugh compared to the rest.
Equipment:
- There should be alot more various equipment to begin with. Alot more special bonusses that can be obtained by exping,quests,raids or crafting.
I've got alot more ideas but yeah, don't think NA NCSoft can do anything with ideas from players here Korea decides what will happen with the game. But he better to give some ideas then nothing at all i guess.
Which ironically is why I dont want you guys to make L2 more like WoW.
Funny cause you've still didn't see me mention anywhere about the fact that i ever played WoW. So how am i suposed to know what's going on in that game at all, seems you know alot more about it. And it's not like i want to make l2 easier like 2 months to get to 85 or something. But a bit less hardcore would be nice.
The Valentines event was the best ever would love to have it come back maybe even for Easter but have a bunny follow us hehehe anything with the Vitality would be nice... Thank you
And server merges the market stinks not enough shops and wnat more people to pvp, play with and visit lol
Smittie, dunno what you mean by making L2 like WoW, coz it normally means making it 1-85 super fast with super easy ways to get top gear.Which isn't what xesta suggested.At all.
Don't get me wrong, it's just that some things are litterally BEGGING for improvement.
One is the quests.All can agree that 90% of them are a waste of time/cash/effords.
Good events like Valentine every now and then isn't bad either.
Dunno about the server merges, coz it can mess with the economy n all...
But all in all I support those things, as they won't make the game as easy as some may think, but rather, more enjoy-able.
Like, make quests for each level ranges to boost exp - each lvl you get quests that can get you 10-15% at 60ties, or 5-10% at 70ties.
The reason WoW is popular regardless of the grind there, are exactly the quests, my friends.The rewards from the quests are it's appealing point.So giving something little(and I repeat-LITTLE) to put your mind to rest with little running, little killing and getting a nice reward isn't so bad.
P.S-The game is WAY easier as it is(making newbbuffs 1-76 is the top) so these rather minor changes aren't going to affect the whole picture that much, compared to the rest.
it would be nice if Raid Bosses gave A LOT more xp and vitality, like enough that people would be camping even the worst ones and fighting over them. atm non-epic raids are more about who is bored and let's go raid or go farm a few for some gear or certain books maybe; we certainly don't do them for the xp or vitality (unless for low level alts/subs xp is ok but at 60+ it starts to not be worth it for xp).
Yepp, and it seems that kama is the same.The exp is very nice till 46, decent till 56 and worthless at higher ones.Dunno about 73,76 and above (whether they're made for anything other than drop).
kama raid xp even for the 6x one isn't very good, same as for any other raid bosses. all should be boosted in xp given, and perhaps drops. and the boost in vitality is laughable.
- Since NCsoft failed Since prelude in banning unlegit players, the gametime to play should become alot less expensive a month then it is right now.
This way you probally would attract alot more people that are currently playing on Private servers, not to mention you should take more action to those private servers to take them down.
Ummm No ... this only creates more people to join EO ...
The valentine event was good but summoners had a hard time with the event. The 5 min between herbs was cut in half and could loose the buff faster then others, and having to re summons pets cuz of the summons made it tedious(spelling).
This also reminds me that thed rudolph event made it almost impossible for summoners to participate in :(
Raid bosses can give more xp and or sp.
More quests and more realistic rewards. Edit or delete old out dated quests.
With tombs collected in hell bound, possibly increase what you can get with them, maybe essence lvl 2 or icarus parts. Or books at 82
Definetaly agree with increase the drop rate and the amount.
Increase the spoil rate to be swept. Bring the dwarfs back to the game by increaseing the need or want for them.
Indeed, this Feedback thread was intended to be for suggestions on improvements or fixes for this particular forum section, "New to Lineage II." For example, advice on improving or adding to the Newbie Quest Guide, or ideas for other guides and explanations are welcome here. Basically anything you all think would help a new player understand Lineage II. :)
Why? Theres no advertsiment for new players to come...
The Companion Event was awesome , we want more of those events ncsoft
also Increasing Vit and xp would help aswell seeing u adding more 83+ spots next update and half the people arent even 81 yet
Fixing Soulhounds ability to take opponents buffs all within 20 secs is stupid and needs to be fixed , Mass paralyse needs a lower land rate
Nuke Augments dmg needs to be lowered/fixed as a EE/SE can hit harder then a Nuker in olympiads is stupid , having the ability to mana burn opponent full mp within 5 secs or less in enlightment and then just nuke augmenting the opponent down as some classes dont have such a great normal hit dmg output of 3k+ per hit
Castle door/walls/guards need to be stronger , most guards are one/twoshots to almost any class or the guards are ignored cuz they hit for like 50-100 dmg
Market Fix , is it possible to make it so that when people make a sel/buy/bulk shop and then log out or get d/ced , that the store stays open , so people could set up shops while going to sleep , cuz as of right now most markets are next to death cuz most people dont even bother setting up sell/buy shops overnight
L2 website needs to be updated with skills and guids for quests and such
Tell us whats gona happen in next update like 4 weeks before next pts for it comes up
Improve some skills like i know a few classes that have some skills that are nice but they are not really that good cuz u cant enchant them , example Raging force/ Sonic Rage
nice skill when u look at it for the first time but when u get higher and ur opponents get higher it gets next to nothing , fully buffed Gk/duelist using the skill on a fully buffed mage "weakest pdef ingame" both in S80 gear ,
the SonicRage/ragingforce does between 100-300 dmg depends on skillcrits , so while the nuker is permantly nukeing for 3-4k and around 12+ for nuker mage crits
so we Gks/Duelists would like to be able to get Sonic Rage / raging Force changed to be a lil higher dmg skill and it should be able to charge our charges up to lv 8 and not just 7 plz
Also Duelists are able to Overenchant Duelist spirit for pvp dmg , so Gks should get that option for our totems aswell to keep it balanced
as of what u guys look for the most to get new players in L2
U as of ncsoft need to put the Name out there in the World
I see World of Warcraft in almost every Tv gamer Show
I have never seen the name LineAge2 in the TV or any sort of Magazin
also u should improve the buffs people can get from the newbie buffer , like let those newbie people pick 15 buffs they want from all the buffs out there .
i mean u got for nukers , conc acu bts ww emp , why not clarity
for fighters u got shield focus haste btb , why not might ?
i mean theres almost next to no new people coming to the game so why not give the few that actually come a few more things to keep their hope up and keep them playing
also everyone should get full vitality,every lvl gained cuz over the years its really ppl working towards 100,00% and once they back at 00,00% their motivation is down
someone said earlier in the thread double the xp from 1 to 78 , that be a great idea , i mean really some people spend around 4 months to get a subclass from 40 to 78 , the people on the servers get less and less and how its going , all clannies need to have at least 2 support subs at 79 for the clans to be able to get some Big stuff going and doing something like getting 2 subclasses up to 78 takes around nearly a year , and then once your back on ur mainclass ur like 3 lvls behind the topdogs
edit.: Enlightment and Final Secret should be the same tbh , Mages get more matk/cast speed mage crits and more
while Final Secret only adds 30% pvp dmg , I as Gk would rather have more Patk/atk speed Skill crits and more, over 30% pvp dmg
also lower the cost of ur accound services , i mean really , more people would use those if the cost wasnt that high
this is it for now, Your Friendly Sayha Gk Hero cyall
O and the silver ranger is pretty much dead. Only fanatic ranger lovin' crazy people that like self torture play silver ranger. This is too bad because a battle field needs fighters, wizards and rangers. Now everyone plays dagger because they do the best damage...
i play L2 since 2004 and it is true that the game is changed since then, changed in negative and positive way.i started on Hindemith and bots were already there..so nothing new, but 6 years later, bots are still in the game.Leveling was a pain in the beginning...but its still a pain at mid and higher lvl..a lot off ppl quit, because for end game it seems you need to be a no-lifer. L2 fix finally this problem, make lvl easier...from all games i played i loved L2 the most..but things can change...and server population can collapse...as we see in the last couple off years...merging servers is not the end...but its a start maybe to see al ppl leave..L2 change your course..!!
2nd, i can live with the normal mobs xp rate, but decrease the death penalty to xp as you go up in levels
Raids XP is too low & Vitality is just LoL, i mean kill RB head to next Raid Boss kill 2 mobs on the way and you're already below on vit
Seriously need to balence the adena/xp ratio with the new vitality systems i've never spent so much time as a shop to get the much needed adena to barely get by
The reason why you might be having problem with the adena/xp ratio,
might be cause:
-playing in 9 man parties=insane xp,low adena,uses vit fast
-playing outside mobs and using sss=unless you doing quest for armor/recs
will equal low adena/xp ratio
So how to make money?
-focus on toons below 78,use a wolf,use ssa,do the math of the game,then
use the money you gain from this to fund your short instense xp grinds you
do on your main.
Bad news for ya, in the coming Freya they have added several quests (lvl 82+) where the reward is like 90k adena. LOL
2nd, i can live with the normal mobs xp rate, but decrease the death penalty to xp as you go up in levels
Already is. Not sure the cutoffs but in the 70's you lose 1% not 4% on a normal mob or non-war death.
Raids XP is too low & Vitality is just LoL, i mean kill RB head to next Raid Boss kill 2 mobs on the way and you're already below on vit
/agree and the bump Raids give to vitality is just lol too ><
Seriously need to balence the adena/xp ratio with the new vitality systems i've never spent so much time as a shop to get the much needed adena to barely get by
Sorry, more bad news :/ In the recent epilogue update they reworked some areas to high level like Den of Evil where adena drops are so bad I can do better on my lvl 40 spoiler's areas :( Other drops suck too lol after a looonggg session you might have a few hgs, cokes and a very rare element stone :/ True of other reworked areas like dino isle, hgs, cokes, no stones and very occasional orichalcum like it's a huge prize lol...
oh and they love feedback? hmmm any news on the updating of the official site like having up to date and accurate info for recipes, skills, weapons and armor sections etc? ... no I didn't think so :(
EDIT: OH I forgot... QUOTES dont work in this section and BB code is Off LOL sorry makes it hard to read above :/
For some self -torture and lack of RL time to play
i decided to TEST ALL the lvl1 to lvl40 quests
These are my findings:
First and most important: They are ridicilously long especially the quests where
u have to gather like 300 items and mobs will be blue or even dark blue when u finish.
Second important: Rawards need to be increased significantly, like for a lvl 19
quest "Dragon fangs quest" in gludin, its much too long and it gices reward like
a bone helmet ... yes the XP u get may as well be doubled because at lvl 19
those monsters are ALREADY green and u end on them being dark blue
too manny quests like this "red eyed invadors"is such one too.
Solution for those first 2 issues is simple:
make the monsters give at least 5 items per killed monster and give a small
monney reward in compensation and double the XP / SP reward even triple the XP
reward after level 40 quests because they truley give ridicilous ammounts not even
worth doing the quest for.
Third issue on the quests below level 40, some are impossible to do alone
most players even if they are in academy or are in a clan already will not receive
anny help from their clannies or it happens only rarely, monsters need to be in accesible
zone for solo especially for healers below 40 have almost no possibility to do quests whitout
dying more then once.
Now i will go on testing all the 40 - 60 quests and i dont think my report will be positive
either, the few i've already done were simply silly and a waste of my few time i have
to play...
In regards to the Newbie Quest Guide, specifically the Orc Raider class change quest, I found the Gludin option not to be faster, despite what the guide says.
Schuttguart:
- Talk to one additional NPC
- Slay single non-social Orc for item
Gludin:
- Slay many social Orcs for two items (took me at least 10+ per item)
There's a lil' bit more footwork for the Schuttguart option, but I definitely found it quicker.
The game lacks XP quests making grinding more than needed... some xp quests would make everything nicer and less work for a machine and more work for a human. Btw, before someone says the game is grinding and if you don't like it leave:
1. Thats what most people do and now see how empty the servers are
2. Quests will be still grinding, but now with a quests, a bit more a story and sometimes a bit walking instead of core grinding. All in all it will make it less easy for bots and nicer to do for a human-being...
Imo you can just as well remove all money quests at high level, the money you get is not worth the trouble. In doesn't match the market....give xp instead... The way the money is now there simply are other better ways to get money (and yes legit)
Vitality has a flaw: should give the same increased % of rewards after we kill a monster; the way it is now only helps to level faster - what is good to some player with resources to spend -but let a new player without enough money (and if they can`t find enough money through playing they will give up or try something else...).
Erase the, probably, worst "improvement" in this game: NPC Buffers.
They are only good to "help" people not to play with suport classes till (wow!) level 75, and "invite" the players that like to play suport classes to try another game (unless they had already some friends ingame that help them around, or simply if they love to suffer).
Make the manor system under the control of some npc merchant guild; and everyone that invest time, money and seeds on the manor system could be rewarded acordingly!
Kamael are to strong in PVP, they steal all buffs and disarm...its too easy... too unbalanced... and archer on the other hand is pretty much useless in comparison...
Kamael are to strong in PVP, they steal all buffs and disarm...its too easy... too unbalanced... and archer on the other hand is pretty much useless in comparison...
Well, folks, at last the quoting in this thread has been fixed. The problem was because the Newbie Quest Guide was written with HTML. But now, the Newbie Quest Guide has its own website page (here (http://www.lineage2.com/guide/newbie_quest_guide.html)), so this section of the forums can have its BBcode back. My apologies for the long delay.
Ok i'm done doing all the levle 40 - 50 quests
they are simply horrible... most are impossible to
do as a healer, and most are even group required quests
while they are last hit quests , healers really are left on the side
since in group they will function as healer and not as inquirer
same goes for the last events that happened
u really need to think about the support classes who keep
the party alive and stand on distance
Get wrid of those last hit quests after 40!
even temple executor quest and pailaka song of ice and fire are killer
quests to do on healers...
U's really need to do more testing on group hunting /questing
FULL group hunting, maybe u'll realize why so manny people
go associal in this game then and prefer solo
As this is a new section in the Lineage II forums, we're happy to consider any feedback or suggestions you have about it. Post your comments here!
Update your web-site.
I don't know how long I will be keeping my web-site up and running or up to date...it's kinda sad that I as one (yes one) person can manage to have a good database of things in game up to date with the latest things (usualy managed to have the updates out the same day as a patch goes live or during PTS) when an entire team that is working on Lineage2 can't do that.
I will gladly update your web-site for you and in return you pay my subscrption for my 3 accounts.
Sace, you should absolutely take up Rohirrim on that offer.
If I were you I would make a regular contract with him, paying him a decent salary, to prevent him from wandering over to Star Treck Online. When there are no new skills or recipes to add to the database, he could work on integrating parts of the NCKorea PowerWiki (http://power.plaync.co.kr/lineage2) into your site (monsters with drops, quests, whatever).
Sace, you should absolutely take up Rohirrim on that offer.
If I were you I would make a regular contract with him, paying him a decent salary, to prevent him from wandering over to Star Treck Online. When there are no new skills or recipes to add to the database, he could work on integrating parts of the NCKorea PowerWiki (http://power.plaync.co.kr/lineage2) into your site (monsters with drops, quests, whatever).
Im sure it wouldnt matter Yidao since they cant even get the drops that do drop right, still waiting on them to correct my Vale Master Transformation drop so that i can get it :S
Im sure it wouldnt matter Yidao since they cant even get the drops that do drop right, still waiting on them to correct my Vale Master Transformation drop so that i can get it :S
That's strange NC gets everything right? Just ask em?
That's strange NC gets everything right? Just ask em?
Rule #1: NCSoft is always right. :eek:
Rule #2: If NCSoft is wrong, rule #1 comes automatically into effect again :rolleyes:
My sugestions:
1. stop that misery for drop and items, if things were more easier, the game would be much more popular ...
2. improve XP/vitality system
3. improve the party bonus
4. update the rewards of quests, they are ridiculous
5. deploy a real action house, where it is not necessary to have two accounts to sell and play at the same time
absolutly EPICLY CORRECT OMG IM NOT ALONE... TY TY TY TY tytytytytytytytytytytytyttytyytty SERIOUSLY? NCSOFT MSUT JUST IGNORE THIS STUFF ITS ODVIOUS And those who disagree with these comments are the minority listen to the majority PLEASE THIS GAME IS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HARD AND MAKES ME WANT TO GOUGE MY EYES OUT SOMTIMES
i duno kids the death of lineage 2 might be upon us QUICK LETS GET OVER TO WoW WHERE EVERYONE IS HAPPY NOT 3% OF THE POPULATION i think l2 will not exist in 2years all becaus eof these 5 main reason
1. lvling is slow
2. people cant make money
3. there are no new players comign in
4.MAJOR SOFTWARE FAILURES IGNORED FOR LIKE 1.5 YEARS NOW
5. this game has HUGE potential but there are SOOO MANNY PROBLEMS with this game and what does ncsoft do????? IGNORE IT
Hello i just got the "skill viewer" window i think is awasome, i always wanted to see my char doing theys, but i was aut of town in a raid boss party on my ee sub so every one die when the 4-5 windows pop up and shoked my screen, i just try to cancel/send/close click here and there to make disaper all those windows, maybe send to players that are on town? or get it like a link on the email? just a sujestion. btw "skill viewer" is realy nice im taking SS :cool:
I don't know how long I will be keeping my web-site up and running or up to date...it's kinda sad that I as one (yes one) person can manage to have a good database of things in game up to date with the latest things (usualy managed to have the updates out the same day as a patch goes live or during PTS) when an entire team that is working on Lineage2 can't do that.
I will gladly update your web-site for you and in return you pay my subscrption for my 3 accounts.
If u would collaborate with the creators of L2WH and of L2vault
u would have a 100 % up to date site
HIRE THEM for goodness sake
Hello i just got the "skill viewer" window i think is awasome, i always wanted to see my char doing theys, but i was aut of town in a raid boss party on my ee sub so every one die when the 4-5 windows pop up and shoked my screen, i just try to cancel/send/close click here and there to make disaper all those windows, maybe send to players that are on town? or get it like a link on the email? just a sujestion. btw "skill viewer" is realy nice im taking SS :cool:
my petition: heya, the guy who posseses akamanah atm forcelogs while beeing hitted by mobs + players. he logs in and out within 0.5 seconds, seems its a bot.
anwer: tell us the name of that player for further investigation.
Are you sure the awnser wasnt to try Full Check?
It seems to be the awnser to ALL problems.
Ingame or outgame, full check fixes all
Would be awesome if i.e. 4 sieges are going, 4 gm's record a siege each.
Like following the main group, record it, when sieges are over, make a nice video/podcast and show us the battle.
Same would be awesome for epic raids.
It shows the people what L2 has to offer, could bring alot of people.
For private servers, a epic is like 15 people vs the raid, here its like 200 vs the raid, and raid wins, thats epic. Show the epicness!
Incase web host of L2 cannot handle it, we have... *drums rolling*
Youtube! Supporting also HD videos.... Problem solved.
Would be awesome if i.e. 4 sieges are going, 4 gm's record a siege each.
Like following the main group, record it, when sieges are over, make a nice video/podcast and show us the battle.
Same would be awesome for epic raids.
It shows the people what L2 has to offer, could bring alot of people.
For private servers, a epic is like 15 people vs the raid, here its like 200 vs the raid, and raid wins, thats epic. Show the epicness!
Incase web host of L2 cannot handle it, we have... *drums rolling*
Youtube! Supporting also HD videos.... Problem solved.
Yes! Yes! Yes! I like this idea very much. Maybe NC could even purchase some ad space on youtube, I've seen ads for eve online...
Increase quest rewards so they are fit to the level u do them at
upgrade coins quest rewards so higher level monster also drop coins
Create necropolis' and catacombs for levels 80 +
Create more instances Kamloka/Pailaka for more intermediate levels
once every 10 levels would not be a luxury, and would sureley add to the
game dynamics.
Increase drop rates, su u can actually get at least one drop per week
instead of one drop per year... sorry but odds like 1/5000 are abominations
and i could almost say an insult to honest players!
then please for heavens sake make some off line shops/work units available!
Vitality has a flaw: should give the same increased % of rewards after we kill a monster; the way it is now only helps to level faster - what is good to some player with resources to spend -but let a new player without enough money (and if they can`t find enough money through playing they will give up or try something else...).
Erase the, probably, worst "improvement" in this game: NPC Buffers.
They are only good to "help" people not to play with suport classes till (wow!) level 75, and "invite" the players that like to play suport classes to try another game (unless they had already some friends ingame that help them around, or simply if they love to suffer).
Make the manor system under the control of some npc merchant guild; and everyone that invest time, money and seeds on the manor system could be rewarded acordingly!
+ just me!
Sace, maybe work on the part of the gameplay style supported by NC SOFT which does not allow a more diverse playerbase (diversity means more players = more $$$) instead of worrying about making QUOTES work in the forum....
Oli is making many good points here, what a terrible response by a CM... "Ooh, I fixed quotes!"
i'm somoene who tests new games often
and old ones i come across to see if they evolved somehow
and i keep seeing one thing that comes back more and more
in all online games
offline activities :
1. offline workjob :just put the number of hours u'll be offline and
make u'r toon do a task for the guild and receive monney and some points
as reward, usually those tasks last between 1 to 8 hours.
2. offline shops : u put an item for sale for a small amount of ingame monney at an npc for a limited number of hours, if its not sold u get u'r item back in warehouse, usually in other games this function is for up
to 72 hours.
these two things would make a humongous addition to the game
manny people simply dont have the time to put a shop up
and its nice to have a central accesible point to shop
so if u do those offline shops i would suggest you to make the central
point on fantasy isle, most accesible to all
some private servers use offline shops etc
but thats with population ~200/300
imagine full giran of dorfs selling things ;/
would couse serious lags imo
NCSoft Loves feedback? because they do nothing...logic missing? WTB event
I wonder how many ppl in this thread actually managed to read the OP :rolleyes:
some private servers use offline shops etc
but thats with population ~200/300
imagine full giran of dorfs selling things ;/
would couse serious lags imo
Actually not, it's the opposite
a full logged on giran will cause more lag then a shop
when u put u'r warehouse full of items , does it make giran lag ?
No, same principle wiht offline shop, its like putting an item in
u'r warehouse, except that its a shop, like a pond-shop
They can do the refunds
that is the EXACT same principle, only thing they need to add is
a price memo, so u can fix the price for wich u wanna sell.
- Update info on website, Classes, items, skills, ect
- Increase drops basic materials or bind them to level of mob. (e.g. 1 stem from lvl 80+ 50K hp mob is rediculous)
- Make transformations learned on main accessable on subs (lvl restrictions on use)
- More events, more/better event rewards, dubble xp weekends (for all I care revive events done in the past and adjust rewards to current game standards)
- Update info on website, Classes, items, skills, ect
- Increase drops basic materials or bind them to level of mob. (e.g. 1 stem from lvl 80+ 50K hp mob is rediculous)
- Make transformations learned on main accessable on subs (lvl restrictions on use)
- More events, more/better event rewards, dubble xp weekends (for all I care revive events done in the past and adjust rewards to current game standards)
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I sent a petition about the TW Jewels and the reply basically said "we are gm's not developers so we can't do anything" LOLOL :confused:
Sorry, it's just very frustrating :o Is Omega gone? When he took over we had events once a month ><
Is this feedback on the "New to Lineage II" section?
very nice 1-24 guide, im particularly partial to those bright green colors and lots of pictures. next step...get new players so they can read and make use of your guide!
and while we're on the topic...offline shops should look like wooden slabs nailed to poles, which shows the name of the character that put it there, and their clan. i dont care if the seller has a fashionable +16 purple glowing weapon that shoots fireworks. its not worth any amount of lag.
create lvl80+ cata. really.
i have 623 gems to farm, aka 62.3m AA, aka 13m GSS. when u know that only 4 mobs in a room drop around 1k GSS... and i can't farm those gss on main coz mobs are deep blue :/
What will be the amount of GSS need for SA on top s84 weapons...?
do the same thing for 3rd class change quests that you did for noble. make it so u can bypass the quest for badges or something else relatively simple. the 3rd cc are out of date and horribly time consuming.
Return back two days CS. Saturday and Sunday. And change TW to the other weekend and make them also two days.
Do you really think that having all mass pvp in one week and nothing in other week is great?
You nicely destroyed game by changing all CS to one evening. It was WAY better to have CS for two days.
This would allow you to set TW and CS for better time for EU/Russia players which mayb could improve player count on NA servers.
Well Aion can get at least 1 double XP weekend per month, why we couldn't get something like this at least monthly? And god knows, we need more of this then they need.
I have some Feedback, I sent 4 mails out, 1 mail with Majestic robes set to my wifes toon it arrived. 2nd mail i sent 22 buff slot book to my wifes toon it arrived empty, 3rd mail i sent 22 buff slot book to my alt cardinal it also arrived empty, 4th mail i sent dyn robes set full element with dyn essence I healer set to my cardinal alt it also arrived empty. No GM has responded to petition yet and this is bull that the mails arrived empty.
Well Aion can get at least 1 double XP weekend per month, why we couldn't get something like this at least monthly? And god knows, we need more of this then they need.
This game is ******ed.The crafting system is so stupid, do you seriously expect people to go around spoiling every single mob in the game in hopes that it might have something useful? IF it even drops anything at all because you could spoil something 30 times and it never drops a thing! its the most tedious and badly constructed piece of dung in history. Another thing, why do low level items require so many mats when they are so hard to come acorss thanks to this ****** spoil system? I just started the game and can't get d!ck as far as decent D grade or even no grade items because you need a recipe, a billions mats and random design pieces that you have no idea where to get them so you just randomly spoil mobs for hours on end never knowing if it will drop ANYTHING! I just spoiled goblins scouts for a good hour trying to get a recipe that I had to go on the internet to have an idea of what might drop it and they didn't drop anything NOT ONE OF THEM! It makes it impossible for new players to get into this game! I honestly don't know how the people that play this game put up with this garbage.
This game is ******ed.The crafting system is so stupid, do you seriously expect people to go around spoiling every single mob in the game in hopes that it might have something useful? IF it even drops anything at all because you could spoil something 30 times and it never drops a thing! its the most tedious and badly constructed piece of dung in history. Another thing, why do low level items require so many mats when they are so hard to come acorss thanks to this ****** spoil system? I just started the game and can't get d!ck as far as decent D grade or even no grade items because you need a recipe, a billions mats and random design pieces that you have no idea where to get them so you just randomly spoil mobs for hours on end never knowing if it will drop ANYTHING! I just spoiled goblins scouts for a good hour trying to get a recipe that I had to go on the internet to have an idea of what might drop it and they didn't drop anything NOT ONE OF THEM! It makes it impossible for new players to get into this game! I honestly don't know how the people that play this game put up with this garbage.
When you're talking about garbage, are you talking about your emorage paragraph?
Buy common items in D-Grade. Leveling has been quickened, so lots of quests aren't worth taking and it isn't worth farming for keymats. The full items are sold at NPCs up to low B-Grade, and it's not worth crafting them before. And seeing how you rage against crafting now, fun will occur when you'll try a 60% craft at A or S grade and will fail.
If you want mats, use manor and buy from other players. If you want key mats, if there's no quest for them, farm the mobs dropping them or buy from other players.
How to make money ? Sell to other players.
Want help ? Seek for other players (and a clan).
Keywords : other players. It's a clan-based game, not a solo online game. Also it's been designed as time consuming, so even if some things have been made faster and some others are more secured, in the beginning it's a game where you take time to build your character and every mistake costs you money/time.
a) Insertion of SA to high lvl weapons (like S84) costs approx 2000 S gems (in fact a little more).
b) 2000 S gems = 200 000 000 AA
c) 76+ titan in the highest cata can earn 200 000 AA (optimistic upper range) from 3 rooms per one buff round
d) there are no cata for 80+ (= AA (resp. sealed stones) drop is decreased much)
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Based on this information you need 1000 buff rounds in cata.
1000 buff round = 20 000 mins = 333,3 hrs
No, seriously, make an option for the skill animations, I know they're quite heavy but set them as an option to mix up with the old ones, would be satisfying for both sides :).