People who enjoy good graphics should watch Nuku's processed version of the video, using the 1080p HD option. That's better than the original: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGtt9zEiC-I
Yeah bro! Updating the graphics to look amazing is so WoW!!! .........Oh wait.......
It's the fancy colors, with the cartoon look... It really looked like WoW imo :).
Game looks the same to me, no graphical changes that I can see unless everyone still plays on low settings? Didn't even look like they were using the HDR or realistic shadow options in the trailer.
This update + highfive look like they will add alot of extra fun to L2, but with the recent server merges etc I hope when these updates finally do hit NA that there will be people online to play with.
I can’t really see these new updates however good they are bring back alot of people to the point they have to open a new server unless some drastic advertising is done.
if the graphics look better than the graphics lineage 2 has right now with high settings, how can it even compare with WoW ? LOLOOL wtff
dude you cant even compare WoW to the lineage 2 we have right now, get a clue man -_-''
gameplay wise, let me know if you can start killin ppl outside of towns without hitting "hey let's duel, so we dont QQ" (altho theres people in WoW qqing over losing over duel lmaoo)
all theyre doing is making the graphics more real lookin than now by using a new engine (project G) or w.e its called
Aion? now thats like WoW with like Cartoon graphics tryin to fly around lmfao
uhh..Guild Wars? yea lets hire um some mercenaries to pve out of town
cant wait till how Lineage 2 will come out to be (if the population maintains minimal of average) i mean so far so good right :rolleyes:
NCSoft trying to make a stand versus Bluehole/EnMasse that's gonna release T.E.R.A in Q1 2011?
Also like all L2 promo video's; no in-game footage but rendered video. Too bad. Also same as always; including new boss (the one on the chariot) and then showing an raid group only wearing Vorpal and Elegia. Showing that it will only be lv85 no-liver farmer content all over again.
I hope the servers can pull it off, Naia is one big lag hole at the moment due the big number of players.
Actually, I only got problems now with loading Giran and Aden because playing on laptop. But I hear my clanmates QQ about aweful lagspikes and freeze-ups since merge.
for graphics and sound as well as an updated API..
Introduction of proper updated Pixel shading and other visual effects that should improve performance and expand the visual considerably at the same time.
There was also a rumor of being able to jump possibly.... but i have my doubts on that most definitely.
Additionally they are updating the models.... as example kamaels have individual fingers modeled and animated..... more detail overall, they plan on doing this for all characters.. and increasing the texture detail too where available.
Mostly what i have found it sounds like it's one big under the hood update, nothing really much in terms of extra gameplay related things though.
Seriously talking about the new project, I must say that as far as you can see, there is no existence of Lineage 3.
After stealing the database They Say:
NCsoft Representative Kim Said, "It is true, I Was Shocked When We Had to stop the Development of Lineage 3 in May, However, Are we going to start all over on January, 2008. We are going to put all of our online gaming technology we've earned Through the past ten years Into this project. "Then I state, They Will Not Be using the Unreal 3 Engine, pero Creating Their Own.
The Lineage 3 Project will begin January 1st next year, and will be announced to the public in 2011.
Congratz to NC staff for posting the Preview from Korea on the main website. I hope you do the same with whatever is released from November Trade Show in Korea :)
i dont see anything new... no eyes are blinking.... the toons are only jumping...the grafics are actually the same... is this an upgrade or downgrade??? Oo
What it sounds like to me, or maybe I am just being hopeful, is that the project that was once L3 essentially got scrapped. What could be salvaged is now going into this update of L2 and a whole new L3 is being started.
If so, it sounds like a sensible plan. They need to do an L3 but they need to also not mess it up. Sometimes the best way to resurrect an old project it to go back to the drawing board. By using what they could from the older now defunct L3 project, they buy themselves much needed time to do the real L3 right.
I still think that L3 could simply be largely the same game with the same mechanics, the same PvP model, the same big open world and the same leveling model simply put into the Aion engine along with the better user interface updates that they have developed in the last 6 years. It doesn't need quest based leveling. It doesn't need to be made into a "get to the level cap and then progress by way of gear grinding" game. It doesn't need to be turned into WoW. It just needs to be an update L2.
But most important, it needs to never have bots, right from the very beginning. NCSoft has finally gotten good at running off bots in both L2 and Aion and they need to keep that up. The botters (both farmers and cheaters) will try, they will try very hard but they need to be given no quarter. Let every max level toon be a legit max level toon.
Simple, easy, they need to not over think Lineage 3. It is already a good game.
Also like all L2 promo video's; no in-game footage but rendered video. Too bad. Also same as always; including new boss (the one on the chariot) and then showing an raid group only wearing Vorpal and Elegia. Showing that it will only be lv85 no-liver farmer content all over again.
I'm sorry but when I look at it, I surely cant see any Vorpal or Elegia in the last raid group. The Orc and the Dark Elf dagger seem to have a adjusted Draconiclike armor on. The Kameal and the Robe wearer might be Vesper Noble, but could just as well be something else. The weapons are completely new.
So to what level range this movies is for it not to determent. But what strikes me is the multiple summoned cats, the dual fire/water cast like rain. New Hair and Face looks. A falling arrrows skill.
As it was stated on Elliebelly, the producers of Lineage 2 have no interest in raising the Maximum level capacity. So adding more armors to the already new armors, seems pointless. Instead it looks like they are adding Sgrade armors or making the existing Sgrade armors adjustable. It was also said that they will put the focus more on the subclasses.
So, is it yet another thing that requires level trillion to participate in? :/
This is something that has never seemed sensible for NA/Euro.
We were always behind the curve in terms of level, and the last Freya update with its raft of stuff for level 82's & lvl84's highlighted the fact that the Korean territory and NA/Euro is too far apart to be governed by one update schedule (Korea's). Something had to change, and fortunately, they have decided to give out XP items and vit and this event etc as a good way to level the playing field, so we can at least attempt to get over 80. (Personally, I'm still 80, been playing since C3, but new XP changes recently have given my char new life and the ability to finally reach 81 hopefully by year end).
I will however be quite devastated if the next content update requires lvl 84. For me for example, it still feels like a couple years away of grind to get 84-85 range, unless we often have xp events etc (lvl80 will have taken me 9 months if I get 81 this december).
This is something that has never seemed sensible for NA/Euro.
We were always behind the curve in terms of level, and the last Freya update with its raft of stuff for level 82's & lvl84's highlighted the fact that the Korean territory and NA/Euro is too far apart to be governed by one update schedule (Korea's). Something had to change, and fortunately, they have decided to give out XP items and vit and this event etc as a good way to level the playing field, so we can at least attempt to get over 80. (Personally, I'm still 80, been playing since C3, but new XP changes recently have given my char new life and the ability to finally reach 81 hopefully by year end).
I will however be quite devastated if the next content update requires lvl 84. For me for example, it still feels like a couple years away of grind to get 84-85 range, unless we often have xp events etc (lvl80 will have taken me 9 months if I get 81 this december).
High Five will give you a 20% experience boost and will reduce the required amount of experience for one level by around 40%.
I'm not usually a direct person. I prefer to let people reach conclusions all on their own, but this thread is just absurd.
The CMs have posted a video about a future update to the game. (TY for that BTW CMs, always nice to be informed).
And then half a dozen posts follow, griping about how "it's too late to save the game" and "oh no it's just like warcraft"...
Holy cow people, are you never happy?
Also, this is not L3 code. We have no way of knowing what phase of developement L3 was in at the time it was cancelled, so there is really no base for comparison. Fortunately, we'll never get to find out, because there will probably never be a Lineage III.
As mind-numbingly boring as WoW is, it has set the standard in MMOs in a number of ways. And, in NCsoft is doing the right thing by learning some things from them... is L2 like WoW? no, but that doesn't mean it can learn from it.
Look at Cataclysm. It's just them realizing that WoW is getting old. So rather than release WoW II, they just rework everything and call it something else. Why is this a good idea? because people (myself included) would rather continue to play the game I've already invested enormous amounts of time and money in, than drop everything to be part of the latest craze... not everyone is a tech sheep.
I am proud of L2 for that. I have always supported their campaign to release free updates, and not charge for expansion packs, and I have always used that as a selling point when convincing my friends to play as well. If they want to keep L2 going and just improve upon it rather than dropping it and trying to make L3, more power to them, and they have my full support...
I'm not usually a direct person. I prefer to let people reach conclusions all on their own, but this thread is just absurd.
The CMs have posted a video about a future update to the game. (TY for that BTW CMs, always nice to be informed).
And then half a dozen posts follow, griping about how "it's too late to save the game" and "oh no it's just like warcraft"...
Holy cow people, are you never happy?
Also, this is not L3 code. We have no way of knowing what phase of developement L3 was in at the time it was cancelled, so there is really no base for comparison. Fortunately, we'll never get to find out, because there will probably never be a Lineage III.
As mind-numbingly boring as WoW is, it has set the standard in MMOs in a number of ways. And, in NCsoft is doing the right thing by learning some things from them... is L2 like WoW? no, but that doesn't mean it can learn from it.
Look at Cataclysm. It's just them realizing that WoW is getting old. So rather than release WoW II, they just rework everything and call it something else. Why is this a good idea? because people (myself included) would rather continue to play the game I've already invested enormous amounts of time and money in, than drop everything to be part of the latest craze... not everyone is a tech sheep.
I am proud of L2 for that. I have always supported their campaign to release free updates, and not charge for expansion packs, and I have always used that as a selling point when convincing my friends to play as well. If they want to keep L2 going and just improve upon it rather than dropping it and trying to make L3, more power to them, and they have my full support...
what is next update coming to us? is it High Five part 1? then part 2? then part 3? then part 4 and then New Project? is this how it will be? then wow....it will take around 4 years to get to new project im assuming...
what is next update coming to us? is it High Five part 1? then part 2? then part 3? then part 4 and then New Project? is this how it will be? then wow....it will take around 4 years to get to new project im assuming...
I am hoping that since korea is getting the new magmeld update, that we will get the hi5 parts 1-3 all together as 1 update.
I am hoping that since korea is getting the new magmeld update, that we will get the hi5 parts 1-3 all together as 1 update.
But that is probably wishful thinking. :(
do u think with all these updates ill ahve to update my PC too? for more powerful then i have at this moment? that might be costy too ( or ill ahve to run on low as usual haha....
Wish the never introduce jump on l2, it simple don't fit the game.
there will be jumping available? omg, jump where? on the rocks? so can we jump on each others heads? and jump over the castles wall? whooo ha, can we use this feature to jump up high on the rocks and use 900 skill to kill mobs? pull trains reagro with wizards and powerlevel ourselves? wow im looking forward to it if we can do that....or mobs will jump too?
can we use this feature to jump up high on the rocks and use 900 skill to kill mobs? pull trains reagro with wizards and powerlevel ourselves? wow im looking forward to it if we can do that....or mobs will jump too?
Mobs don't need to jump. They already teleport to their target if they cannot find a path to it.
This looks great. I can't wait. It looks like we will be getting the graphics of Aion in the game of L2. Best of both worlds.
But I suspect we will be waiting a long time. Surely the absolute soonest this hit Korea will be next summer and from the looks of it and the scope of the change I would say much more likely it will be late next year and it wouldn't surprise me if even later. Then add on no less than 6 months for our update but, again, taking into account the scope of the change, a year would not be unrealistic. It look a year for Aion to come to the west. And considering that we don't have a huge number of people playing here anymore, that doesn't help.
On the otherhand. They may approach it here in NA/EU as an opportunity to remarket the game from scratch. A web media blizz with a few hype generating videos for youtube and a bit of work to get actual boxes out to retailers, it could bring back substantial population. I don't see any reason why it couldn't have at least as many subs here in the west as Aion. What this game definitely has over Aion is depth of features and content. I don't mean quest content, though it sounds like they will do some work there, I mean having a big world to explore. Aion is interesting and beautiful but tiny. The L2 world is huge and open and it sounds like it is going to get even bigger.
Since when was the the whole game being re-imagined like in these vids?
Thats pretty a pretty epic change.
As in... totally epic. As in, its not Lineage II anymore, but a "free upgrade" to Lineage III...
Cus thats what it looks like.
Maybe this is "just" a new continent rather than all the old areas being re-done?
Its the only thing that makes any sence if they are really extending the cap that high.
I agree, it really does come across as being effectively lineage 3. Of course the translation link that lotek gave points out that this is an update that is more like the transition from L2:The Chaotic Chronicle to L2:The Chaotic Throne. So, not an update even like going from Gracia to Freya but even bigger. I am pretty new to the game though so I don't know how much changed between those two parts of the game.
What I see in most of these videos is a solo Epic quest along the lines of the 79 Epic one. The page translated from Russian talks of a lvl 90 character, but the hot bar on the bottom looks more like a transformation bar, so maybe the lvl cap will not be going up, yet. It appears that a series of combats are needed to activate all the skills on that bar, 2 at a time.
The Village getting destroyed at the end, or where people see stuff falling from the sky, looks like Talking Island Village to me. There is a historical act of destruction by Einhasad, which could have seen those items land west of Talking Island between Gracia and Aden.
Some of the other material looks like it could be in the new area coming with Magmeld. The Windmills could be there, rather than in Aden.
What is good from my point of view, as a totally addicted L2 player, is that NC seems to be finally putting time, effort and money into L2, rather than trying to create new games to replace it. In places which still have a few servers and might have room to grow, that's good. Not sure that doubling or quadrupling the populations on EU/NA servers is still possible. A steady inflow of new players would be much more useful than a massive influx of people, many of whom it be disappointed and leave quickly.
This looks great. I can't wait. It looks like we will be getting the graphics of Aion in the game of L2. Best of both worlds.
But I suspect we will be waiting a long time. Surely the absolute soonest this hit Korea will be next summer and from the looks of it and the scope of the change I would say much more likely it will be late next year and it wouldn't surprise me if even later. Then add on no less than 6 months for our update but, again, taking into account the scope of the change, a year would not be unrealistic. It look a year for Aion to come to the west. And considering that we don't have a huge number of people playing here anymore, that doesn't help.
On the otherhand. They may approach it here in NA/EU as an opportunity to remarket the game from scratch. A web media blizz with a few hype generating videos for youtube and a bit of work to get actual boxes out to retailers, it could bring back substantial population. I don't see any reason why it couldn't have at least as many subs here in the west as Aion. What this game definitely has over Aion is depth of features and content. I don't mean quest content, though it sounds like they will do some work there, I mean having a big world to explore. Aion is interesting and beautiful but tiny. The L2 world is huge and open and it sounds like it is going to get even bigger.
This communit don't give a **** about how aion looks like nor how its game mechanics are, aion is just anothe fail from ncsoft and thats well said.
wth... aerial combos? Charge Up bars? Gravit fields? kagebunshi?
The game is beautifull, but its loosing all of its essence.
Imagine all that in a siege field.
And seems everybody will need to put away they'r core 2 duos for i7 and video cards with crossfire, cause those graphics seems to be heavy as hell.
lol... um.. no
shouldn't provided they still aren't using the unreal 2 engine..
which from a few rumors.. state the engine being used is a hybrid of unreal 3 engine... L3 essentially... and massive updates/changes to make it work with as similare moving styles as l2.
Basically what we get is.... better graphics.. better flexibility.... and better performance with the same hardware we have today... I would also venture with the new engine that goemetry instancing .... an old tech now... but not available in the current engine would not only significantly improve performance.. but would make l2 look amazing at the same time.
And that is only just ONE new tech... there are litterally hundreds of newer methods of doing videogames like this...
Really if l2 was a modern engine... an intel i3 onboard GPU would be likely outperforming the current 4xx and 6xxx gpus on the market sadly enough.
I've a pretty stupidily powerful computer at my disposal and l2 makes it snort...
But watching the videos.. it does look like they've made incredible changes that make the rumors sound very factual. NOW to actually see it run at my fingertips will be a new story.
And lets face it.... L2 is ncsofts cream of the mmo crop... it still have insane numbers playing it world wide... and what is the number one complaint about l2 today? It's starting to look dated... old... and people are moving onto nicer looking perty graphics that are turning into a waste of time, failing a month after it's debut..... so makes sense ncsoft would invest what it's spent... using all the developing time and tools that they have and injecting it into an already working MMO to breath considerably new life into it.
This communit don't give a **** about how aion looks like nor how its game mechanics are, aion is just anothe fail from ncsoft and thats well said.
Did I touch a nerve or something? wtf? I thought we were on the same side. All I was saying was that it looks like they are taking the great graphics of Aion and putting them on the clearly superior and more developed game that is Lineage 2. L2 is definitely the better game but Aion is hardly a failure. Aion has done fine and continues to do well even here in NA and EU. Which is surprising considering how small the game is content wise. That is why I think taking what Aion does best, which is looking good, and combining it with a game that has the depth, features and pretty much everything else, that is L2, is a winning combination. And I do think it will draw in new players.
i just hope they get the performance better with this visual revamp.
its silly having to turn off SLI and tweak certain graphic settings down to get L2 running great.
from the vids i've seen, i cant see anything to complain about... its great to see so much effort has gone into a what some people have phrased "Dated" game.
New classes means that this is totally new game - it looks quite like Aion, and it will end as Aion. NO FOR NEW L2!
It looked like they were simply showing what each basic class did. I didn't get the impression that they were new classes though they do look like they each got big changes. Simply adding more classes to certain races is also not exactly unheard of.
Also, when I totally new game happens they typically started it off with a lower level cap, then work up. The half translations and rumors are putting the new level cap at 90 or 95 which suggests they are expanding the existing game.
It looked like they were simply showing what each basic class did. I didn't get the impression that they were new classes though they do look like they each got big changes. Simply adding more classes to certain races is also not exactly unheard of.
Also, when I totally new game happens they typically started it off with a lower level cap, then work up. The half translations and rumors are putting the new level cap at 90 or 95 which suggests they are expanding the existing game.
9. Upgrading and optimization of game graphics, lighting effects and shadows even though the game is still using Unreal 2 Engine. (confirmed)
10. New starting point for beginners, new leveling process (or curve). (confirmed)
11. New level cap will be 90. (confirmed)
12. Class balancing, including nerfing and strengthening some classes. (confirmed)
Interesting that the new expansion (for Korea) is advanced enough that it is both in QA, and 20 playable copies will be at GStar. No release dates, but not something years from now (in Korea at least). The bulk of the work has been done already. We will live in interesting times! :)
While waiting for news from Korea (it's already noon on the 18th there right now), I had a thought: It would be very nice if they upgraded the view distance and level-of-detail system as well. I mean, the Tower of Insolence should be visible all the way from Talking Island, just imagine the sights you could experience if we had a realistic viewing distance of something like 15 km (about 10 miles) ....
While waiting for news from Korea (it's already noon on the 18th there right now), I had a thought: It would be very nice if they upgraded the view distance and level-of-detail system as well. I mean, the Tower of Insolence should be visible all the way from Talking Island, just imagine the sights you could experience if we had a realistic viewing distance of something like 15 km (about 10 miles) ....
Massive performance and resolution issues though. But one can dream.
With the right kind of level-of-detail system (which L2 already partially has, very noticeable when you fly around with good buffs around Aden & Elmore while your computer is lagging ... :)), most of the time the whole ToI would need less resources than your average fully equipped character model. Same goes for the far away landscape, really. :)
On topic: Meh, NCSoft showcased only Blade & Soul today in Busan, and it's already 19:00 there. Let's hope for some news tomorrow. :)
I think changes happening last months are preparation for this update.
At least big part of those changes.
Maybe is NC trying to fix its reputation in US and EU countries, trying to keep at least some player and fan base and when this update will be coming out in the future, they will roll out brand new web, features, events etc.
And maybe Im wrong and the game is just dying and within 2 years (that means before this update will hit our servers) the game will be dead.
Who knows.. :) (which means that bot banning, events and GM care is just epic funeral :D)
It says that max lvl will be 95 and the new R Grade will be introduced
In an interview with NCsoft, I forget which website, but they said it was confirmed with the devs the new cap was level 90.
But yes, new R grade armor and weapons too were confirmed :)
I wonder what would be the next armor grade then? X? Or NC-17? :rolleyes:
They seem to be going backwards on the alphabet now, before the S is the R, so.....
The next grade must be Q!! And after that?: QQ Grade!!
If you check the Knight's class video, the char wears sword & shield from 0:00 until 0:06 from where it holds a first pair of dual swords. The next skill looks a bit like nowadays Gladi skills. At 0:09 the toon holds another set of duals (left-hand sword looks almost like a dragon slayer).
Once finished using the gladi skills there's another cut at 0:10, showing it again with Sword & Shield performing a knockback & releasing that fire lion... (omg).
I seriously hope they won't fusion today's 36 classes to a friggin 8-class WoW/Aion clone.... ( Knight, Warrior, Rogue, Archer, Wizard, Summoner, Enchanter, Healer <--> compare http://powerwiki.na.aiononline.com/aion/Classes ( Templar / Galdi, Assassin / Archer, Sorceror / Spiritmaster, Enchanter / Cleric ) - of course, all similarities are pure coincidence... ).
Don't get me wrong - a more modern style of l2 won't be a problem for me and I think some of the shown skills are kinda neat. Still... this massive 8-class introduction makes me think back to what happened with StarWars:Galaxies when the NGE patch was introduced.
If you check the Knight's class video, the char wears sword & shield from 0:00 until 0:06 from where it holds a first pair of dual swords. The next skill looks a bit like nowadays Gladi skills. At 0:09 the toon holds another set of duals (left-hand sword looks almost like a dragon slayer).
Once finished using the gladi skills there's another cut at 0:10, showing it again with Sword & Shield performing a knockback & releasing that fire lion... (omg).
I seriously hope they won't fusion today's 36 classes to a friggin 8-class WoW/Aion clone.... ( Knight, Warrior, Rogue, Archer, Wizard, Summoner, Enchanter, Healer <--> compare http://powerwiki.na.aiononline.com/aion/Classes ( Templar / Galdi, Assassin / Archer, Sorceror / Spiritmaster, Enchanter / Cleric ) - of course, all similarities are pure coincidence... ).
That knight became Scorpion from mortal kombat for a moment :D I wouldn't like if they fuse all classes in 8... what,the orc will have the job of a warlord,gladi,titan and the others? :confused: there's no extra info on this.. anyway will take alot of time til we get this update.
I seriously hope they won't fusion today's 36 classes to a friggin 8-class WoW/Aion clone.... ( Knight, Warrior, Rogue, Archer, Wizard, Summoner, Enchanter, Healer <--> compare http://powerwiki.na.aiononline.com/aion/Classes ( Templar / Galdi, Assassin / Archer, Sorceror / Spiritmaster, Enchanter / Cleric ) - of course, all similarities are pure coincidence... ).
Don't get me wrong - a more modern style of l2 won't be a problem for me and I think some of the shown skills are kinda neat. Still... this massive 8-class introduction makes me think back to what happened with StarWars:Galaxies when the NGE patch was introduced.
Quo vadis, L2?
That.... would be a nightmare.
I hope it isn't a concideration, truely. Every class has its own speciality, and I hope it stays that way.
I hope it isn't a concideration, truely. Every class has its own speciality, and I hope it stays that way.
+1.
I just hope its either a simplified video of the classes (since showing every class of every race might take a bit longer and they dont wanna spoil too much do they?) or simply smth else like a 4th class/transformation or w.e. idk >.<
I mean we all play L2 the way it is, if they balance it out and get rid of that bot problem somehow its a good game isnt it. They dont have to change completely the game, they can release L3 with that **** if they want to without destroying the current l2, which got through all these years and still is being played and updated.
Well, the variety of classes we have now is interesting, but for the game purpose maybe is not that healthy. Why ? My point is: the less classes you have, less requirements for any xp or pvp party (at this point the game is just different of course, minor buffs dependancy, etc). If you want to make a good LoA party, you will be looking for: buffer, recharger, healer, bd, sws (at this point almost nobody really kill monsters), tank, dd, poler,etc. Making the proper team could be very difficult, with live players on each toon.
If you check the Knight's class video, the char wears sword & shield from 0:00 until 0:06 from where it holds a first pair of dual swords. The next skill looks a bit like nowadays Gladi skills. At 0:09 the toon holds another set of duals (left-hand sword looks almost like a dragon slayer).
Once finished using the gladi skills there's another cut at 0:10, showing it again with Sword & Shield performing a knockback & releasing that fire lion... (omg).
I seriously hope they won't fusion today's 36 classes to a friggin 8-class WoW/Aion clone.... ( Knight, Warrior, Rogue, Archer, Wizard, Summoner, Enchanter, Healer <--> compare http://powerwiki.na.aiononline.com/aion/Classes ( Templar / Galdi, Assassin / Archer, Sorceror / Spiritmaster, Enchanter / Cleric ) - of course, all similarities are pure coincidence... ).
Don't get me wrong - a more modern style of l2 won't be a problem for me and I think some of the shown skills are kinda neat. Still... this massive 8-class introduction makes me think back to what happened with StarWars:Galaxies when the NGE patch was introduced.
Quo vadis, L2?
Thought about that too. I also got an horrible nightmare about gender locked classes and character customisation gone... I mean, that weird **** n slash level is fully voiced right? And the warrior dude is obviously the one used to represent the knight. Lineage2 isn't Dragon Age, we're not getting voice over for our default character... But I'll just take all this as pure paranoia, just like the possibility that my BH coud be turned into a healer :p
I wonder what this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd0ZMEcQZSA) suggests ... transforming into a RB? :D I also don't recognise the place, though it looks a bit like the Elmorean castle architecture.
Well, the variety of classes we have now is interesting, but for the game purpose maybe is not that healthy. Why ? My point is: the less classes you have, less requirements for any xp or pvp party (at this point the game is just different of course, minor buffs dependancy, etc). If you want to make a good LoA party, you will be looking for: buffer, recharger, healer, bd, sws (at this point almost nobody really kill monsters), tank, dd, poler,etc. Making the proper team could be very difficult, with live players on each toon.
The definition of "proper team" varies cause it's also based on personal flavor as well lvl/gear dependency etc. I for one like the fact there are so many different ways of getting things done incl. party set up..
Trust me in High Five I'll be fine in DVC with just a Tank Spoiler BD SwM EE/SE PP & DC/OL (all 83+) whereas other might prefer to go with a stacked DD group be that melee/mage or archer build..
Finding live players after the current mergers we went throu really shouldn't be an issue and those that don't have a full friendlist with useful classes or know how to use clan/ally/hero shout are simply said missing out on the whole concept of a MMO.
I wonder what this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd0ZMEcQZSA) suggests ... transforming into a RB? :D I also don't recognise the place, though it looks a bit like the Elmorean castle architecture.
I smell a kind of "Ultimate Transformation"-Skill with 1h cool down and a duration of 1 minute (if its really that strong oO) :PP
I hope it isn't a concideration, truely. Every class has its own speciality, and I hope it stays that way.
I wouldn't make to much of these 8 classes. They seem to have categorized all the classes this way for some time now. Here is a page with news from the Hellbound update: http://www.lineage2.com/news/hellbound_01.html
I wouldn't make to much of these 8 classes. They seem to have categorized all the classes this way for some time now. Here is a page with news from the Hellbound update: http://www.lineage2.com/news/hellbound_01.html
3. They will rewrite the game leveling process from level 1 to level 90. Seems it is mean the grind will remove from the game.
4. The "R" class monogram of "Royal" word, these weapons won't be able to trade and the Special ability will be available for them as we can get SA to the currently weapons.
5. What we could see the skills, etc they will subclass skills a part of the System of Awakness.
6. We will have 4th class change. (They will reveal more info about them soon.)
7. The developer said this expansion "still" use the Unreal 2 Engine. (It is mean maybe the expansion which will follow the GoD will take a new graphic engine)
8. Will change the sieges process too, the players will can go more faster to war zones and more another changes.
9. We will have a new special movement as you can see in the videos it is a special jump (I think it is looks like brutal good).
10. Will change the pvp and pve system too.
11. We will have a new auction system too.
12. Talking Island will destroy by the story and the beginners will get new starting location.
Hmm.... seems like a lot of rumors around here. Any citation on any of this? other than just drawing theories from watching the trailer?
The Graphics are virtually unchanged in the trailer... the engine has new elements for movement, and some new meshes and sprites were added, butthey look no better to me... everyone's hand is still a lego-person 'C' shape and AGAIN all I am seeing is "R" grade stuff... way to keep adding onto End game and further burry new stuff.
Killing talking Island is amazing... a great idea becuase it now means newbies start in a new area. TAKE ADVANTAGE of this NC... seriously, Write a new tutorial in game so new players aren't bored with it. Give them stuff to do so they don't quite from boredome after 2 hours.
This update has a lot of potential... I hope I am not going to be further dissapointed. >.<
Get your screenshots of it now, just for the memories sake.
i know i have some screens of the area where i got my very first broadsword, the place i was first introduced PK, and the first place i died from mobs.
K... just saw the new video for GoD... some human female walking a guy through some kind of tutorial... I am hoping to God that this is not What L2 will become... if it turns into Aion...
NC doesn't care about the NA-EU market, their only concern is Korea. Soon Tera online will go live there and this is an effort to reduce the people that will leave Aion-L2.
It seems that they didn't have any more choice. L3 is nowhere near to complete and Aion doesn't seem that it could do the trick. Instead of making an attempt to push forward with L3, they decided to completely revamp L2 using elements from Aion and other games in order not to divide the playerbase between games. It will also be easier (and cheaper) to advertise for the "all" new L2 than for a completely new game.
I believe that in the end, no matter what they do, NC will face severe competition from Tera and they will probably loose a big portion of their players to it. All these "changes" come too late (LoL at balancing classes. Did they realize this now?). Most people are tired from the endless grinding and they won't have the patience for more of it, no matter how easier it becomes.
I wonder what this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd0ZMEcQZSA) suggests ... transforming into a RB? :D I also don't recognise the place, though it looks a bit like the Elmorean castle architecture.
Why haven't they made a kick-*** promotional hype video on this? Blizzard does it and make kick-*** videos for cataclysm, but when I want to show WoW players that L2 is doing cool stuff too, then I have nothing to show at all.
Thanks Chikari and sorry for the double post, I didn't notice. Its nice to see more quests like this :) makes the game more rpg.
Btw thanks for the mocking Redneck. I just don't understand why people on this community are so mean and petty... What can I say attack its the best defense for the ignorant...
I hope this won't be feed for more flaming...
Well with high chance it will excellent expansion! +35 new hunting zones, +60 new raid bosses and so many many many new things next of them.
They rework the lower level areas too so the beginners and players who didn't play from so long time will can get a lots of fun too.
Well many ppls say that, the reworked battle system will same as in the AION. No, it isn't true, AION's battle system is very slow, but Lineage 2's battle system is much more faster, now they import some skills to Lineage 2 what are looks like much more better in this system as in the AION system.
Well I think if this expansion will successful at world wide, than it is will a really big many and really much new players for the NCsoft. Next of them i think every MMO developer team will follow the Lineage 2's results with this expansion, because still in the MMO's history never was any MMO what could change so much as the Lineage 2 will do.
I don't understand when you will able forget the L3 rumors! The NCsoft made the TERA online, but after when started this trouble in 2007 the developers left the NCsoft and as we can see the TERA's world is a middle age fantasy world as the Lineage 2's world some fanatic started call it as L3. Next of this one of big boss of NCsoft told they don't need L3.
It is same as the ppls saw in a music video kissing the two t.A.T.u. girls with eachother and someone started create a rumor that they are lesbians and now still the half world thinks it about them, while one of them has two childrens!
Upon further inspection of the numerous videos posted here, I am finding myself a bit confused...
As a graphic artist I work in 3DS max and photoshop on a daily basis. I;ve also played Lineage II for since launch, so I have a solid base for comparison between old, current, and the comming "new" graphics.
I fail to see any graphical enhancements at all, aside from the obvious addition of new locations and some equipment that have been added. The polygon counts remains the same, the animatronics remain the same, the texture quality and bump mapping also remain the same...
Looking back the "Kamael" update, I can see improvement, up to that point the game had been running the same graphics for about 5 years... now, 2 years later, it's unchanged? The meshes and texture work on the Kamael are easilly ten times the quality of the other races. They have more fluid movements, better animatronics for battle (a little redundant but, meh), and most importantly, they are more than twice the poly count of the other races AND have better textures.
What I EXPECT in an update this size, is graphical improvement. Give the older races the same attention. How about some fingers on their hands? (Yes, this means going back and revisting all the old items the held/equiped).
I like the new hair options, but is that really enough to call this a revamp of the system... lol.
This update is clearly still using the same Unreal 2 engine it always has....
Can I get a Dev or a CM to confirm for me if they are actually making graphical changes or if this is all just the standard rumor-fare that gets created from the hype of a new update?
I hope they improve the character models and all that other stuff that you mentioned. Especially the hands. Doesn't sound like an important thing but really, as someone once called it, that lego person hand is really distracting.
Grimaldus, you don't see any improvement, because there isn't any. The official line is "We'll be still using the Unreal 2 engine for this update." (emphasis mine).
I hope they improve the character models and all that other stuff that you mentioned. Especially the hands. Doesn't sound like an important thing but really, as someone once called it, that lego person hand is really distracting.
The funniest thing you can do right now if you want to...
Stand your char next to one of the Gracia NPC's in any town, and look at the vast difference in texture quality between the Gracia NPC's and your char. Skin, armor, everything is much more realistic looking on those NPC's.
So yes, I wish they will upgrade all of our chars to look as good as Gracia ones :)
If you really want to see a difference go stand next to one of the mobs based off of one of the Elf models. They still have their fingers.
Here is a old open beta promo movie, hands are still mittens but not as blocky as they are now. All of the model detail reduction on the older models was done to try reduce lag at seiges, hands and faces aren't as good as they use to be.
OMG old beta ... good times, I remember leaving lineage 1 after DARK ELF expansion so excited for lineage 2 ... 7 years has passed ... thats pretty long time. Guess time I quit. lol
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well well, fourth class change, wonder what the new names gonna be..
Hmmm, I had the impression that it wasnt going to be a class change, but more of a class unification.
just read goha.ru if you want to know what's going to happen as Anova has more of a clue then NA NC Soft or at least are more sharing
my bet is on H5 part 1 to 3 here end January
ps, Korea has beta H5 part4 now and GoD is not even in beta just a hype they launched to score at the gamer event they had show casing future upcoming plans without any real commitment.
Maybe it's just me, but the Lore has gotten kinda weak lately. Shoddy writing. Plus, it's full of holes. Sadly, it gets worse every update.
Last bit of lore we got was about a "woman in blue and a man in black" Eva and Gran Kain, wandering about as humans, interacting with mortals to thwart Shillen's comming again.
Also, last time I checked, Gran Kain was the god of Drestruction, so Shillen being called that makes zero sense.
Furthermore, since they clearly had a system in place for the deities (Einhasad and Gran kain up top, with Paagrio, Sayha, Maphyr, Shilen, and Eva) below them, it makes even less sense that Shillen was suddenly so powreful that she could just challenge all the gods at once to war and even surive as she did. Then, to have had the big daddy Gran Kain adn Eva working to keep her sedated and then just being like "nope, too bad, I'm waking up"... it's full of holes... I stopped caring after C5, and the writing has just gotten worse and worse...
Maybe it's just me, but the Lore has gotten kinda weak lately. Shoddy writing. Plus, it's full of holes. Sadly, it gets worse every update.
Last bit of lore we got was about a "woman in blue and a man in black" Eva and Gran Kain, wandering about as humans, interacting with mortals to thwart Shillen's comming again.
Also, last time I checked, Gran Kain was the god of Drestruction, so Shillen being called that makes zero sense.
Furthermore, since they clearly had a system in place for the deities (Einhasad and Gran kain up top, with Paagrio, Sayha, Maphyr, Shilen, and Eva) below them, it makes even less sense that Shillen was suddenly so powreful that she could just challenge all the gods at once to war and even surive as she did. Then, to have had the big daddy Gran Kain adn Eva working to keep her sedated and then just being like "nope, too bad, I'm waking up"... it's full of holes... I stopped caring after C5, and the writing has just gotten worse and worse...
really a pity elliebelly is gone cause the lore discussion there was awesome.. as a fact Einhasad has destroyed & done more evil things in the name of "good" then Gran Kain ^^
Maybe it's just me, but the Lore has gotten kinda weak lately. Shoddy writing. Plus, it's full of holes. Sadly, it gets worse every update.
Well, i kinda agree with you, but i guess it just keeps getting harder and harder for the people writing the lore to keep up with each update ... and maybe it's not even the same person who has been writing these different parts of the lore...
It reminds me of the Dungeons & Dragons game actually, when they introduced a lot of new stuff about the Planes with Planescape, then right after that the Planes lore stared to go in every kind of direction, with Demons & Devils being renamed (Taanari & Balor if i remember correctly), and then being renamed again to their original version, and then some other books tried to link everything together, and in the end ... i guess everyone just took bits and pieces of the lore to make their own thing !
Maybe we'll just have to do this with Lineage II now ?
Well, i kinda agree with you, but i guess it just keeps getting harder and harder for the people writing the lore to keep up with each update ...
If it's harder and harder they should find women. Seriously where's the difficulty in following a story?
That's the problem when you pick things in random mythologies instead of making a story by yourself, it doesn't go anywhere.
That's the problem when you pick things in random mythologies instead of making a story by yourself, it doesn't go anywhere.
Well, this time i don't really agree with you, i like the fact that they picked some things from already known mythologies and mixed it with some other things they invented, this way you get a strange feeling that you're in a universe you're kinda familiar with, but at the same time you feel that you have a lot of things to discover...
Well, this time i don't really agree with you, i like the fact that they picked some things from already known mythologies and mixed it with some other things they invented, this way you get a strange feeling that you're in a universe you're kinda familiar with, but at the same time you feel that you have a lot of things to discover...
I like this mixed feeling :)
Gotta back this. There is nothing wrong with being inspired by existing fiction. Lineage II had a good thing going until they tried to overcomplicate it.
The new stuff is where is all falls apart. The name of the upcomming saga says it all "Goddess of Destruction". After 7 years of writing you'd figure the guys up there would know better than to step on Gran Kain's toes... But whatever, they don't pay me to edit, so they'll just *****er their own lore until it's not worth reading and they'll have only themselves to blame...
I do agree with you on that part, they are totally messing things up. I mean hell, if I was the writer who created Gran Kain I would have been ****** that someone totally stole everything I had created and slapped it on another character who by the way already had her own story and title. It would have been better if they called the update "Goddess of Death" since Shilen IS a goddess of death. I'm guessing they changed it to Goddess of Destruction because it has a better ring to it and if that's the reason then it's horridly lame. >.<
It's simply a name... Like you yourselves have pointed out, the lore provides examples of the gods over-stepping their bounds (Einhasad going ape-**** against Shilen and the saga of the Giants with their kamael spicula warriors).
I think that's the key here. It could be argued that the power balance between the gods is merely more one of respect than of actual ability. Sure Einhasad and Kain are probably pound for pound stronger than the others but not so much that Shilen is insignificant. She is cut from the same cloth so to speak.
She's already proved she can reek enough havoc to if not kill them entirely, at least injure them significantly enough for them to not be able to pursue as she and her forces made their escape.
Even the 'lowly' giants proved they had what it took to battle them, even if they had no hope of actually winning. Even Harkilgamed, one of the spicula kamael heroes, not even an actual bad *** giant, apparently slew one of Einhasad's daughters (a goddess we're talking about here) with a single blow using the sword Enuma Elish.
So geeking out asside, while Shilen may be 'lol' compared to all the other gods combined, she has the 'will' to destroy them and judging by her history, the threat she poses is very real.
Goddess of Destruction? Perhaps the name of the chronicle is to make that actual point. The title could be a description of her intentions or even one of her over-stepping her place and coveting another gods purpose. All ill behaviour aiding to make her appear like an even naughtier goddess than everyone thought before.
"Frank the Gardener" is a job title. "Frank the Usurper" is a declaration of intent and speaks volumes...
Goddess of Destruction? Perhaps the name of the chronicle is to make that actual point.
"Frank the Gardener" is a job title. "Frank the Usurper" is a declaration of intent and speaks volumes...
Does this means all sws & bd's should be very scared cause we get lumped together with the buffers aka enchanters class again ? We're tank/dd hybrids not buffers..
guess it's time for the few active bd/sws left in this game to reroll kameal like everyone else
Wait a min, so what you're saying is that the awakening system is just based on the expansion of the character archetype (tank, healer, nuker and etc...) instead of individual class like Hell Knight?
Once shelin goes about causing destuction to a greater extent than she ever caused death, wouldn't that effectively make her a goddess of destuction? Perhaps the title is a forerunner to what is to come.
yes and if thats how 4th class change at lvl90 is going to be based on I'll quit this game cause that's a joke
oh FAWK! Here I was hoping to see each class expanded to gain some abilities specific to their class. I don't want to go from Hell Knight to some goody twoshoes Sigel Knight and be like a Paladin. Next they will say we're all followers of Einhasad. I mean yeah great that the game is evolving but ****, don't destroy the classes NCSoft. I love my Hell Knight and the dark flavor it has. >.<
oh FAWK! Here I was hoping to see each class expanded to gain some abilities specific to their class. I don't want to go from Hell Knight to some goody twoshoes Sigel Knight and be like a Paladin. Next they will say we're all followers of Einhasad. I mean yeah great that the game is evolving but ****, don't destroy the classes NCSoft. I love my Hell Knight and the dark flavor it has. >.<
Mascara, eyeliner, running tear tattoo.
What color of the rainbow do you dye your emo haircut in?
I want a more carebear PvP system. No more PKing and making people lose exp.
Was more thinking if one can cast nukes so fast it will kill everything, and using the "draw people together "and then a friend uses bubble will be very destructive for pvp.
I want a more carebear PvP system. No more PKing and making people lose exp.
Granted, in part.
Chars below S grade will lose only half Exp if they wear the academy circlet, while PK chars will have more trouble removing karma and will drop more often.
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Speaking of the Lore. Here's my little problem with it. People are talking about worrying that their Hell Knight may now be said to be a follower of Einhasad. What happens to all of us Dark Elves, who are followers and children of Shillen. I am assuming the new mobs that will be filling the 30 or more new hunting areas would be Shillen's creations, thus we would be killing our brothers and sisters, and fighting to destroy the one we follow and worship.
I hope they make this a choose your side, kind of like Varkas/Ketras and give us DE's a pile of Eva's mobs of goodness and light to destroy. That and I want a quest to burn down the Mother Tree :).
And I am with a few others views, in that Shillen is the daughter of 2 gods. Therefore she shouldn't be on a lesser plain then her parents. They should be equals (They are all Gods). If she is indeed so ticked off that she wants to show her father what Destruction really looks like, she should be allowed to go for it. I think she has proven throughout the past that she has become powerful enough to overthrow her mother/father, and has the raging anger in her to accomplish it.
Speaking of the Lore. Here's my little problem with it. People are talking about worrying that their Hell Knight may now be said to be a follower of Einhasad. What happens to all of us Dark Elves, who are followers and children of Shillen. I am assuming the new mobs that will be filling the 30 or more new hunting areas would be Shillen's creations, thus we would be killing our brothers and sisters, and fighting to destroy the one we follow and worship.
I hope they make this a choose your side, kind of like Varkas/Ketras and give us DE's a pile of Eva's mobs of goodness and light to destroy. That and I want a quest to burn down the Mother Tree :).
And I am with a few others views, in that Shillen is the daughter of 2 gods. Therefore she shouldn't be on a lesser plain then her parents. They should be equals (They are all Gods). If she is indeed so ticked off that she wants to show her father what Destruction really looks like, she should be allowed to go for it. I think she has proven throughout the past that she has become powerful enough to overthrow her mother/father, and has the raging anger in her to accomplish it.
The fact that Dark Elves worship Shilen at all has been a plot hole since the get go. Shilen does not care about dark elves. In fact, she'd just as soon kill thme as she would every other race. She hates the world her mother made and swore to kill everything in it... that includes you guys. Your goddess is Eva now, get over it.
Plus, even after humans completely defeated you guys in the war, you split: the Elves just made peace with the forest and the "brown elf" clan refused to accept that the war was over. they said that Shilen would give them the power to win... but did she? No. A human did: Dasparion, who traded his knowledge of dark magic (Gran Kain's power) for the secret to immortality. Then the dark elves and Elves went to war. Shilen did nothing for you.
Even according to the new lore, she just wants to kill everything. Actually reading the lore may have clued you all into this a long time ago. What the NPCs say in game is just what those NPCs think, and don't know any better than. The lore is written from the perspective on Gran Kain, who obviously has a clearer image of history than any one else...
Lol, I just got done reading the new lore. Last time I read it was probably about 6 years ago. A lot has changed. Eva looks weaker then ever. And wow Einhasad is probably the most destructive of them all now. I remember her as being the one that was sugary sweet aside from her fit when she found out about her husband and her daughter.
Gran Kain looks weaker then he did as well. Its no wonder Shillen is taking over as the Goddess of Destruction. I think the one line in the Lore says it all though. "Gran Kain WAS the god of destruction"
This probably is not the right forum for this so I'll make it quick.
Linux is just the counter-culture Windows substitute.
Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not big on the love for Microsoft, but when you compare all the options, they're the only logical choice if you want a PC you can actually use.
this whole update is just meh for me. it seems like ncsoft is trying to force a new game out of a 7 year old game. many of the new features ive read are dissapointing (being able to change to your sub out in the open whenever you want is kinda like wtf??) and the new lvl cap of 99 for main and subs just adds another grind.
the new awakening system sounds like it bunches class archtypes together which i'm not a fan of, as the one key feature that was nice about l2 is the shear number of class choices and no tech trees as other mmos have.
as always, we will see when the official notes are posted, but what ive read so far makes me not want to play the game then rather than want to play it.
(which is weird because the H5 updates are super exciting and i cant wait for them)
If u notice ther eis 2 icons wich i think are from subs who also seem to have levelled up to last class change , so can think they will levle to 99 too,so i've split off my Cardi for nothing way to go NC soft.
and then the Hairdo's, please do some more efforts for humans,when the hel we gonan get blonde hairs ! http://lineage2.plaync.co.kr/promotion/newp/?articleID=33
And please hire some woman to do the designs, seems its all done by men.
I mean.. dont we have enough ridable pets?? Every other MMO has horses....
we should get something cooler like dragons (hatchlings) or big dog like animals (wolves) .... May be even dinosours (dinochichus)..... whats the point of going to horses :S....
About the rest / Awakening system is one of those things that you have to try to see....
I mean.. dont we have enough ridable pets?? Every other MMO has horses....
we should get something cooler like dragons (hatchlings) or big dog like animals (wolves) .... May be even dinosours (dinochichus)..... whats the point of going to horses :S....
About the rest / Awakening system is one of those things that you have to try to see....
esos pets ale son class specific
Some people really like horses. I'm partial to cats myself..
Like some of the new hair though, and also the glasses, but it's not like you will have to take any of this stuff.
Level 99 though?? Still a long way to lvl 82 for my lvl 81 toons!! It might work.. or it might be a disaster. And where are these lvl 99 players going to play? Killing guards in Dion cause they are bored? Redo Dragon Valley and the Lair to lvl 94+ and 99? We don't even have them redone to lvl 80+ and 85 yet. Wreck the game for low level new players by changing even more places to lvl 90+
I've not been impressed with the quality of changes we've got from the current development team. Not so much what they have added, but what they have taken away from potential new L2 players. Discouraging new players is not going to help.. and discouraging existing players will not help either.
Some people really like horses. I'm partial to cats myself..
Like some of the new hair though, and also the glasses, but it's not like you will have to take any of this stuff.
Level 99 though?? Still a long way to lvl 82 for my lvl 81 toons!! It might work.. or it might be a disaster. And where are these lvl 99 players going to play? Killing guards in Dion cause they are bored? Redo Dragon Valley and the Lair to lvl 94+ and 99? We don't even have them redone to lvl 80+ and 85 yet. Wreck the game for low level new players by changing even more places to lvl 90+
I've not been impressed with the quality of changes we've got from the current development team. Not so much what they have added, but what they have taken away from potential new L2 players. Discouraging new players is not going to help.. and discouraging existing players will not help either.
imo, since L3 is done or whatever (as in not coming out any time soon) they wanna claim about their stolen source codem i feel that ncsoft is trying to take the popularity of L2 and create what L3 shoulda been without creating a whole new game.
this isn't good imo as, like you said, it will discourage the players who are so used to a common system for the last 7 years to keep playing. also, with the game being 7 years old, what new player wants to start a game from scratch where 90% of the population has a 7 year head start?
i just feel they shoulda made a new game instead, or a new L3.
Omg... those hairstyles are... yuck... nvm... xD ugly like hell :P
New pets? Prolly we will not get them. In korea they have many of them (for example red lionthing mount) for coins or smt like this, so those are I think for them too.
As Hyperlite said, I don't really like this whole awakening system too, it can destroy most of classes. Waiting on official patch notes, so I will see what they are doing with L2 :P
And where are these lvl 99 players going to play? Killing guards in Dion cause they are bored? Redo Dragon Valley and the Lair to lvl 94+ and 99?
Dragon Valley will be from 81 till 85, Lair is 84-85. They must add new locations for 90+.
Level 99 though?? Still a long way to lvl 82 for my lvl 81 toons!! It might work.. or it might be a disaster. And where are these lvl 99 players going to play? Killing guards in Dion cause they are bored? Redo Dragon Valley and the Lair to lvl 94+ and 99? We don't even have them redone to lvl 80+ and 85 yet. Wreck the game for low level new players by changing even more places to lvl 90+
I actually like the increase in lvl cap....
There are lots of players that have been 84/85 for years and us newer players we are just starting to catch up... but we are only doing that.. catching up....
After H5 we should catch up to them at least in lvls (we are probably still far away when it comes to skill enchants and gear but thats another story). If the newer players are able to "catch up" during the H5 era, when the lvl cap is increased it actually gives newer players a chance to actually LEAD in lvl difference, and I would think that probably a 5+ lvl difference would have the same effect....
If those who are 84/85 dont have time to xp or just dont want to grind, while the those who are 81/82 right now make it to 90/92 it should be a huge difference....
If those who are 84/85 dont have time to xp or just dont want to grind, while the those who are 81/82 right now make it to 90/92 it should be a huge difference....
That won't happen. What WILL happen is that the top clans will lock down the high lvl aoe spots and powerlvl everybody to at least 90, so that they can get the pvp advantage from being higher lvl (evasion etc.) plus any new skills. And then the others, who just were about to reach 84/85, will be even worse off.
That won't happen. What WILL happen is that the top clans will lock down the high lvl aoe spots and powerlvl everybody to at least 90, so that they can get the pvp advantage from being higher lvl (evasion etc.) plus any new skills. And then the others, who just were about to reach 84/85, will be even worse off.
dont forget all the built up sp and skill oe's that the people just hitting 85 will be lacking. all of us who have been 85 100% for a while xp for sp and nothing else.
people will never catch up to these types of chars due to the nature of skill oe'ing
dont forget all the built up sp and skill oe's that the people just hitting 85 will be lacking. all of us who have been 85 100% for a while xp for sp and nothing else.
people will never catch up to these types of chars due to the nature of skill oe'ing
I think that is not true....
I have a couple of guys on my clan that they have been playing for 1 year and 3 / 4 months now and they are lvl 83 with most skills +15... / +8 .... (2nd class / 3rd class), good gear, and are starting to become a little bit imbalanced. Ofcourse these guys have already surpassed me even though I have 1 more year in game, but I do not have as much time to play.
Where Im getting at is that if these guys accomplished that with the current game by the time H5 hits, they will be 85 100% and have even better gear by then, and by the time CT3 hits,t hey will be able to catch up or even surpass those imba ppl of today........ (provided they will be able to play as much during the next 2 years, 1 year till we get ct3 and 1 year on ct3 to make a difference)
I have a couple of guys on my clan that they have been playing for 1 year and 3 / 4 months now and they are lvl 83 with most skills +15... / +8 .... (2nd class / 3rd class), good gear, and are starting to become a little bit imbalanced. Ofcourse these guys have already surpassed me even though I have 1 more year in game, but I do not have as much time to play.
Where Im getting at is that if these guys accomplished that with the current game by the time H5 hits, they will be 85 100% and have even better gear by then, and by the time CT3 hits,t hey will be able to catch up or even surpass those imba ppl of today........ (provided they will be able to play as much during the next 2 years, 1 year till we get ct3 and 1 year on ct3 to make a difference)
you obviously have no clue how much sp it takes to get a skill +30. +15 isnt ****
edit: not to mention that your awesome plan to catch up doesnt touch base on getting the top gear, top raids, top epics, etc. you will have to pvp those top players for that content.
the lvl cap of 99 won't be an issue as when this game started the cap was lvl 75 in beta & prelude and that didn't kill the game either..
Hyper is right that you'll need billions of SP to get ~10 skills to +30 so don't under estimate that.
for me I love the increase as I love my main class and it's no fun to only see my SP bar move, all I do these days is Pling friends & farm stuff to improve gear.. no fun..
The new level cap isn't a big deal imo. Remember how they're making getting to 85 much easier? It's not even that difficult as it is. With all the xp increases and ever increasing ways for them to boost xp gain (nevits, vitality, events), getting to 90+ will probably be a breeze after a while.
I predict 95+ will be where it gets sick again. level '99' just seems like one of those arbitrary numbers you add just so people always have something to do but it's just impractical to actually reach.
Basically they'll either control it rigorously with content (current/High 5 content could probably comfortably take you to around 90-92), or make 95+ insane xp so you can xp forever and always see some progress.
I'd much sooner just make a bar move than actually play Korean random with stupid skill enchant after 30/15. +30 is like 24% chance at max level. 24% CHANCE FFS!!!!. Stupidity...
I think they will make it easier to level from 75 to 82 now and implented a lot more XP quests .
But i'd like to point out the difficulty most people have is between levels 66 and 74, those are still rather fast to go by, but tiresome, always the same hunt grounds to do , thye need to shuffle those up and embellish them.
And a real big deal in those levels is most likey hot springs finest foods and finest ingridients quests , sorry to have to collect that manny items 100 or each, and just receive the xp that u'd get from killing 10 of those mobs its a bit few or if u'r real unlucky u get a lame worthless Tateossian recipes.
Really for next update spice up the old quests a bit too.
Lineage II runs just fine on Linux, and always did - it's basically a slightly changed UT2 engine, after all. It's GameGuard which throws a fit and refuses to run, bringing the client down with it.
The new level cap wont be a threat if botting will no longer be allowed. If it will, then we will see the new and improved bots at level 99 over here first, even if the content woul dhave been added some other place months before.
Level cap is harmless as long as reaching it is as hard for everyone. If it isnt, the last legits will quit soon enough, and then, what will the bots do ? Ask more PvP, more mergers and higher level caps, just like now. So the game will lose the legits and wont satisfy the bots, just like before, I wonder what merger will happen when there will be only one server ?
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The new level cap wont be a threat if botting will no longer be allowed. If it will, then we will see the new and improved bots at level 99 over here first, even if the content woul dhave been added some other place months before.
Level cap is harmless as long as reaching it is as hard for everyone. If it isnt, the last legits will quit soon enough, and then, what will the bots do ? Ask more PvP, more mergers and higher level caps, just like now. So the game will lose the legits and wont satisfy the bots, just like before, I wonder what merger will happen when there will be only one server ?
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aww. man...kill the bots, report them, and thats all u can do....stop please...pleaseeeee stop using this word "BOT" already, game is dead anyway, bot or no bot....play your time, kill your time and close eyes on bots, without them everything would be billions on the market...tell thanks to them that u got you own armor set or weapon...
jeee, i think legits might leave cause of your threads...bot here, bot there, bot here bot around there...
u know....in past 5 months i didnt see anyone using program just till last night...i did report him and didnt see him anymore...so just do what u can....report!
I see them daily, probably you are not looking well enough :) Fewer AFK now, ok, but you must remember that in other places bots are not allowed to log in the first place, here they still think that bots pay their wages.
Regarding the billions that everything will cost, that is just BS bots made up so they are convincing themselves that they are needed and the game wont exist without them. Guess what, where bots are not allowed the game is doing much better and the items cost a lot less than here. Legit clans can cater for their gear, thank you. It is the bought adena that inflates prices, not the bots that keep them down. If you dont use your brain and only listen to the bot rhaetoric you will lose the joy to play just like them, you will join the chorus asking for more PvP, more mergers and higher level caps without being ever satisfied, because everything will be too easy, just fewer and fewer ppl, nothing changes regarding botting, nothing changes regarding the fate of the game, the only way is down.
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