As many of you have noticed, we have been pretty busy in past weeks and unfortunately we haven’t been able to post any update about the PTS. Due to the release of Truly Free and other technical considerations, we will not have a Goddess of Destruction PTS. We sincerely apologize to all of you who have been waiting an update on this topic, and thank you for your understanding.
Great things are coming to Lineage II, and we hope you are all as excited as we are about the Goddess of Destruction and Truly Free live launch date on November 30!
So on the update we have a chance to choose new paths because of new classes and skills we dont have a change to try it first?
In korea they even copyed your character to PTS so they could have better sense of the changes and here we we dont even get a simple PTS??????????????????????????
As many of you have noticed, we have been pretty busy in past weeks and unfortunately we haven’t been able to post any update about the PTS. Due to the release of Truly Free and other technical considerations, we will not have a Goddess of Destruction PTS. We sincerely apologize to all of you who have been waiting an update on this topic, and thank you for your understanding.
Great things are coming to Lineage II, and we hope you are all as excited as we are about the Goddess of Destruction and Truly Free live launch date on November 30!
ok this suks bigtime, so many unknowns about awakening taking so many things away from our toons and as such, a pts is really needed to test things without making a PERMANENT mistake :mad:
ok this suks bigtime, so many unknowns about awakening taking so many things away from our toons and as such, a pts is really needed to test things without making a PERMANENT mistake :mad:
They expect us to reroll from scratch to try every awakened class!
Brilliant business plan - keeps players playing for longer...unless they quit instead, but that'll mean that they can close the servers even earlier, saving money!
Yeah right the ones like myself paying since launch are getting a kick to the junk with the free to play and not one thanks for being loyal all these years.
As many of you have noticed, we have been pretty busy in past weeks and unfortunately we haven’t been able to post any update about the PTS. Due to the release of Truly Free and other technical considerations, we will not have a Goddess of Destruction PTS. We sincerely apologize to all of you who have been waiting an update on this topic, and thank you for your understanding.
Great things are coming to Lineage II, and we hope you are all as excited as we are about the Goddess of Destruction and Truly Free live launch date on November 30!
Please tell me this is some sort of really early April Fools joke. How the **** are we suppose to know if we want to keep our class or not without testing it on a PTS. Are you going to login a builder 1 toon and //fix it for me if I find out I made a mistake? This is ******* ********.
I gotta say of all the dumb things that NCSoft has done in the past. And all the jokes about how that you take any time NCSoft gives you and add a week for it to work properly.. but this.. really? You give items to people so they can pick literally any class they want to awaken to and switch their subs around and everything.. but you don't let them have any testing to see balance, play style, etc... Last time was a month of PTS saying it was for the best of the community and to allow for plenty of time to adapt to the changes... All that for something that was for a relatively small change compared to this update... really? Someone really didn't think about it all that effectively...
OMG!!!!! (i rerolled to a dagger cause i thought it was gonna be kewl but know it sucks! now i gotta start all over again at 80 for another chance. it that doesnt work. whole new toon..........) G f**N G but wait its free to play!!! (you hear that sound?? the toilet water just spun down in the opposite direction) LMAO
Look, if you're going to screw us then at least give us a better understanding as to why. You mentioned technical considerations, so could you expound upon that a bit? The normal test server can't handle it? You have to move the servers? etc? Not just "oh hai, sorry but no PTS!"
Indeed, I did post yesterday that we do not have an update about the PTS date, nor the launch date, nor the PTS settings.
To address the suggestion in the OP: PTS is meant to be as close to the final version as possible. That is why we do not open up PTS early on when there are still many broken quests, bugged quest rewards, incorrect skill descriptions, and many other issues that make the game unplayable.
Regarding GD launch in "Fall 2011." We have said that because that is the most accurate estimation we can give at this time. We do not yet know if it will happen at the beginning of fall, the middle, or the end. "Fall" here in the USA is technically from September 21ish to December 21ish (it's true, "Winter" doesn't start until almost February!). I know everyone is eager to play GD but please do not get yourself attached to a particular date in your mind as you may be driving yourself to disappointment.
Regarding PTS length: I said "We do plan to have a longer PTS than with other updates. But I don't know yet it if will be 2 weeks, 1 month, or what." I said that 2 months ago, (a lot of things can change in 2 months) and in that time the PTS planning is leaning towards 2 weeks. But, again, that is not final.
Regarding PTS settings: I posted before that, closer to the PTS time, I plan to open a thread dedicated to suggestions for PTS settings.
Of course, players are welcome to discuss dates, settings, etcetera as they like, but until things are finalized please understand that all threads asking these same questions will get the same responses. When the plans are final they will be announced! :)
Go play! Enjoy the game now and later! :)
ok thx for longer PTS
ok thx for final patch notes
Hi NCsoft. You can wait with launch for another month if you want, just give me a chance to test what class I want my 6 toons to be for, how long was it? oh right, forever
No wonder Sace disappeared, you guys are going to pull up every post she ever typed to show how things aren't what we expected. Would have been hell for her on these forums.
So on the update we have a chance to choose new paths because of new classes and skills we dont have a change to try it first?
In korea they even copyed your character to PTS so they could have better sense of the changes and here we we dont even get a simple PTS??????????????????????????
so we pay to play few years , and when you change the game drasticly and f2p
, you dont even give a chance to the ppl that play for years to test the new classes ?
After spo many years of playing never saw any move from Ncsoft that was so bad like this one.
I would understand if this was a normal update like in the past but we are talking here about an update that change the whole game play.
U cant just come after so many months of waiting and tell me that i have to make my awakening class without telling me or informing me or showing me something to guide me what class is what and WTF is going on. U just cant throw us the game in our face without informing anything about it. So many years u never had updated ur sites. U never had droplist . U never had any infos about ur game at all. This atm is realy amazing. So i have some simple questions.
- If im going to do awakening class and after i finish it and i dont like it are u going to reset the quest for me?(since there is no pts to check it out)
- Are u going to change my other accounts also?
- Are u gona be able to reset it on 1k+ people they still play?
-Was it so hard just to avoid this Event x2 exp and put 2 weeks the pts up so all players know what GOD is?
-Is it still so hard even to put a PTS for 3 days only since uve got the live server rdy u should be able to open the PTS for GOD also.
i doubt anyone gona answer here also i dont even know why im typing this post tho.
Fair like always NC gratz.
ps: I rly give a **** if quests are bugged like 99% of this players. We have to know what we pick and not go random.
Oh man, I don't know if I should be suprised sadly lol.
Well who cares if its close to final version in descriptions or quests....its not final....should of just pushed pts and ran with it.... its a test server for a reason.
I would strongly suggest that they do 1 week pts at least, and if your telling us you won't have pts cuz its not ready , then how are u going to go live with god anyhow??????
so we pay to play few years , and when you change the game drasticly and f2p
, you dont even give a chance to the ppl that play for years to test the new classes ?
well alot of people that are complaining are the ones at max lvl atm and once god goes live (if I read this correctly) Will get a stone that allows you to awaken to what ever class. Where as ppl below X lvl (dont remember the lvl) once this hit the point to do the 4th class choice can only go to the the class in the lvling up line.
But yes does suck they arnt offering a PTS to test items and what not
After spo many years of playing never saw any move from Ncsoft that was so bad like this one.
I would understand if this was a normal update like in the past but we are talking here about an update that change the whole game play.
U cant just come after so many months of waiting and tell me that i have to make my awakening class without telling me or informing me or showing me something to guide me what class is what and WTF is going on. U just cant throw us the game in our face without informing anything about it. So many years u never had updated ur sites. U never had droplist . U never had any infos about ur game at all. This atm is realy amazing. So i have some simple questions.
- If im going to do awakening class and after i finish it and i dont like it are u going to reset the quest for me?(since there is no pts to check it out)
- Are u going to change my other accounts also?
- Are u gona be able to reset it on 1k+ people they still play?
-Was it so hard just to avoid this Event x2 exp and put 2 weeks the pts up so all players know what GOD is?
-Is it still so hard even to put a PTS for 3 days only since uve got the live server rdy u should be able to open the PTS for GOD also.
i doubt anyone gona answer here also i dont even know why im typing this post tho.
Fair like always NC gratz.
Again only people that can pick there awaken class's are people like you who have max out char where as the new players can only pick which ever class that followers there job line, So dont think NcKorea really looking at the current maxed lvl player base but the newer influx
How can you release an update, that has massive changes to the game and the charters that we have had been playing for a long time. Some of use for over 5 years. If your 76 or above you can change your class when you awaken. I was think for changing my dread nought to a tank or a nuker. How can I make a choose on a class when I have no clue how the skills will work or the armor. WE SHOULD HAVE A PTS <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:pKOREA </st1:country-region></st1:stockticker><st1:stockticker>AND</st1:stockticker><st1:country-region> RUSSIA</ST1:p</st1:country-region> HAD. NCwest should put a poll up. PTS OR Truly free. I bet many players have been waiting to use the pts to check out the new game and figure out what toons i want to keep playing. Like do I make my DC a enchanter or a Healer. I have 2 charters at 85 100% and I would like the time to see if I should change their classes. IF YOUR NOT GOING TO OFFER THE PTS THEN YOU SHOULD MAKE THE CLASS CHANGE ABLEABLE A FEW TIMES FOR EVERY CHARTER ABOUT 76. THIS WAY NO <st1:stockticker>ONE</st1:stockticker> WHO <st1:stockticker>HAS</st1:stockticker> BEEN PALYING FOR A LONG TIME GETS LOCKED INTO A CHARTER BECAUSE NCWEST CAN'T <st1:stockticker>GET</st1:stockticker> THE <st1:stockticker>JOB</st1:stockticker> DONE ON TIME. :(GIVE US THE PTS:(
Oh come on people, you had months to find out about awakened chars from Korea, you had weeks to find out about awakened chars from Ruoff, you even could try Ruoff PTS so dont tell me now that you dont know what to awake into and what that class will be like!
So we needed to test the following (bare minimum):
1) Class we think we want to awaken to.
2) Alternative class(es) in case we don't like the first one.
3) Proper armor types (i.e., heavy, light, or robe).
4) Best type of weapon(s) for 4th class type.
5) Dye set-ups for 4th class.
6) Skill enchant routes.
These are pretty essential to test and pretty expensive and/or time consuming to do on a live server. We don't even have good English language sites to go to for accurate information, and now we have to make do with no PTS. Still waiting for an explanation as to why you can't throw up a PTS at least for a week.
NCSoft, you can't even imagine how much you killed this update.
You lost half of your current subscribers, if not more. Most of people were waiting for the PTS to try classes, to know which class they would choose.
you yourself admit it's one of the BIGGEST update. In Korea, they introduced the Stone of Destiny because many koreans ere not sure about it.
They had the longest PTS, they had their characters copied on it to try things themselves.
So here, what we got is only a fast update, without a patchnote, without test and answers to our questions, and without any consideration ?
You may forget one thing NCSoft. You want to attract more players. you want to make the game lives. How does people try the game, and come ? By following article on the internet, by listening about advices from friends.
You lost those market shares too.
So indeed, selling rights to Innova before closing NCWest by killing it was the right choice. You did a smart move with the october bonanza event, making a nice cash amounts.
You don't even give us a wiki, an updated website, a retail patch note, nothing like that.
Again only people that can pick there awaken class's are people like you who have max out char where as the new players can only pick which ever class that followers there job line, So dont think NcKorea really looking at the current maxed lvl player base but the newer influx
Korea had a Month long to test PTS, we get nothing so you can't really compare..
@Dracha I have been asking for GoD PTS for 6 Months now so don't gimme that..
People tread it as challenge .. new world to explore, new errors, new surprises, new challenges... new way of game for free and free of support just get used to .. new NCW is and coming it will bo go(o)d :D
P.S. Tbh after merge I thought they can't drop below .. now i see some light in darkness ;)
Sneak Peek: "Sword Singer" is now called "Virtuoso"
Dont think our class names are changing since they already posted up the class names on the GoD site since they didnt say anything about it being temp names and will change along with most of the other info NcSoft released
As many of you have noticed, we have been pretty busy in past weeks and unfortunately we haven’t been able to post any update about the PTS. Due to the release of Truly Free and other technical considerations, we will not have a Goddess of Destruction PTS. We sincerely apologize to all of you who have been waiting an update on this topic, and thank you for your understanding.
Great things are coming to Lineage II, and we hope you are all as excited as we are about the Goddess of Destruction and Truly Free live launch date on November 30!
Necro_Prince, please consulate with the NCwest or Lineage 2 staff to let us PTS time, I guess from now if we all did wait so long for GD we can wait a bit longer to live version, but the players would like to test the new features.
Personally, I know, that what class I will have, but much of players still would like to decide it, while they test it.
I vote to next:
- 30th of November, PTS start.
- 14th of December, Live GD start with Truly Free service.
wow i never think that will happen xD but its a good news so, i want to be 30th because i want play it.
but necro if u can answer it please let me know if we weill have official pachnote and if we can see what class we can get because in the koran patchnotes u cal read every toon 76 will get a stone of destiny and they can take any class please let me know that ty ^^
Dont think our class names are changing since they already posted up the class names on the GoD site since they didnt say anything about it being temp names and will change along with most of the other info NcSoft released
Im not talking about the new classes, Im talking about the old ones.
Why is everyone crying so much, I don't even want to test what class should I awaken to, I know it already.
Because some classes here wanna know.
You are one example of people knowing what they would do. Draecke is an example of people wanna trying all classes =)
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Serious question to Necro_Prince: will we get Harmony update within the GoD update ?
(and please don't tell me you don't know what I'm talking about)
The game will be free in 2 weeks, 2weeks, can you believe that? You will have time to learn about it.
picking the wrong 4th class will be quite bad and the only way to know which class suits one play style best is by testing it out before hand cause a lot will be different in GoD, classes like Enchanter is not even remotely comparable to current BD/SWS..
rerolling/lvling a char to 85/80/80/80 cause you had the bad luck to pick the wrong class is not something one can do in 2 weeks so don't be so eager to decide for others they should just be happy cause it's free in two weeks when we have paid for this for 7+ years.
Going live without even a PTS of say 1 week is just fail and kind of disrespectful to those paying players that are eligible to receive the stone of destiny and may want to change their class upon awakening..
Necro Prince if your from NC Korea then I'm quite disappointed with the whole attitude as this is not how the Korean GM's treat their player base and it doesn't bode well for the future here @NCWest servers :(
The game will be free in 2 weeks, 2weeks, can you believe that? You will have time to learn about it.
There is a need to test things on a PTS that on live servers would cost you billions of adena and months of your time. This is a huge re-vamp of the game, and as Draecke pointed out to you, certain 4th classes are a drastic departure from their 3rd class version. Gratz to you for knowing what you want to awaken to, but it's not so simple a decision for others.
I just want to remind that the people who are not maxed out will be able to awaken with knowledge supplied by the people who have maxed out on the desirable classes. So.... do not minimize our distress.
So when you going to tell us you never got to test if Olympiad tokens going to get deleted in the update or Territory War badges? Or is NCSoft just going to wait till after the update when its all gone and say oops our bad again.
All I got to say is NCSoft is lucky this game is going to be free cause instead of 100% loss of server population it will only be 50%.
Maybe they should have spent less time on the new splash screen for the web page and updated the game information or got PTS working.
so...
i've been waiting for a PTS for a long time now.
it's extremely important to me.
my class has been changed so much, i'm debating going to a new class or not.
which skills to keep, which skills go away when you awaken...
these are the things i wanted to know.
i don't understand Russian, or Korean, and i don't trust Google Translate.
The game is free now it costs you nothing but more play time to re-roll (easier than ever now) You dont like your class, that you most likely researched to death, Roll another toon and be back at 85 in a month or two. Option two...spit one of your lvl 80 sub classes into a full character and grind out the 5 lvls and awaken again. There are options available if you just put a bit of effort into it.
do you really think that?
do you really see it as...
well it's no biggie, i can torture myself a little bit more, not even a lot more...
just to fix a mistake i should never have had to make?
i've no fear for that.
however, they are busy working on something...
what?
no idea.
whatever it is, i'd hate to think that they helped push for early non PTS release...
then again, maybe only 10% of the player base actually wants a PTS?
maybe the other 90% doesn't evenc are.
haha ppl wanna choose overpowered char in pvp are pwned... long time before god relase i know that i wanna play tyr warrior... wut u wanna test and why ???? :)
so i have a friend.
they don't want to play their class anymore.
they're thinking about dagger class...
but they might want to go enchanter.
my other friend is a tank, and might want to go warrior.
the biggest thing is...
there are now 5 damage dealers.
a tank...
a healer, and an enchanter...
sure, if you're a tyrant, or a gladiator... the choice is simple.
but for SEs, warsmiths, blade dancers... the choice isn't so simple.
the game play will change so much from current classes as we know.
there is a big choice to be made.
i've been waiting for the PTS, i could care less if the update ever goes live, i just wanted the PTS.
if for some reason the PTS is broken... and they cannot launch a PTS which is the reason we have had such a huge delay...
i would like for them to let us know so we don't just assume they're making a mistake in releasing the update without a PTS.
I understand so many are disappointed, because they are used to play this game with every tiny bit maxed out and planned to perfection.
But please don't forget, a PTS was never thought as a means for players to play it failsafe, it was there for the company to get rid of software bugs, not less and not more.
Most of you are really well informed and experts on this game, so I assume you're in no way totally clueless which class to play after 85.
It comes down to two or maybe three choices at most, and as some already mentioned,
it's no big deal to reroll or use a sub if you made a mistake.
So please have a bit more faith in your own decisions, neither life nor any game worth its name can be and should be planned to death.
But please don't forget, a PTS was never thought as a means for players to play it failsafe,
GoD pts in korea was exactly this , that why they copied all toons to the PTS so ppl can test the new classes , and that why they give us stone of destiny to awake to different class if we dont like the awakened version of our class
Dear NC.
1. If you did all preparation to launch new update what stop you to apply this update to PTS server first? if you have problems with PTS, why you think there will not be problems on life servers? Better open PTS on 30th November and life on 14th December. Players can wait a bit more, they need test all new features.
2. Do you realize how all ~20k players start download (life update) new game client at one day? Give us ability to download it before 30th November come.
I understand so many are disappointed, because they are used to play this game with every tiny bit maxed out and planned to perfection.
But please don't forget, a PTS was never thought as a means for players to play it failsafe, it was there for the company to get rid of software bugs, not less and not more.
Most of you are really well informed and experts on this game, so I assume you're in no way totally clueless which class to play after 85.
It comes down to two or maybe three choices at most, and as some already mentioned,
it's no big deal to reroll or use a sub if you made a mistake.
So please have a bit more faith in your own decisions, neither life nor any game worth its name can be and should be planned to death.
That's the Korean PTS. Our PTS has always been there to try things out before the update hits live with the added bonus of checking text.
You're only allowed 2 "mains" after awakening and as you said above, we like to play everything with every tiny bit maxed out.
That means that we want to have our 2 mains both be classes we like to play as the most so it's a pretty big deal if we get stuck with something that on paper sounds ok but turns out to be something we don't like playing as on even one of those 2 mains.
You shouldn't even mention rerolling as a possible fix for this situation. Unless we can get to 85/80/80/80 again within a day or two at most, any amount of time we lose having to go through this fix for this stupidity is time competitors have to get to 99 before you.
Seriously? No PTS at all? you must be joking there. Even tho i have an idea what i want to awaken into, there are many things i wanted to test anyway, and yet i have 2 other toons where i have totally no idea what to awaken them into.
Will you change and let people reroll for free the class they awaken into? Will you refund the bilions of adena spent on stuff that turned into being useless - what could be discovered on PTS? Where are our complete detailed full patchnotes? Nowhere?
Why cant u make PTS at least for 3-4 days so people that are really interested in trying out things could have some time to test out the most important stuff for them?
Unless we can get to 85/80/80/80 again within a day or two at most, any amount of time we lose having to go through this fix for this stupidity is time competitors have to get to 99 before you.
So we have completely different goals. For me it's not a race to 99 and it's not a competition. But your point of view is as valid as mine o.c.
lmfao guess I'll just sit on my lvl 85 chars as they are for awhile longer, and let all those people who will jump blindly into their chosen awakening class tell us how it goes... already been pretty annoyed by update and have cut back on game time, this is just the icing...
NC just took a huge dump on the heads of all long-term paying players, but, I expect no less. And, why should they care if with free to play they expect a large influx of new players? With the same lol-level of bot enforcement as now, I predict a huge mess.
Only way to fix this is to give each player 8 stones of destiny lol, so we can choose again if we hate the awakened version. And btw while choosing a strong pvp class is important to many players, even for a casual player who never pvps the choice of class is very important, it shapes your whole game experience... not having a PTS screws over everyone. It is not a small amount of work to reroll a completely new char, nor should we have to if we have had the same main for years, which we want to keep playing.
But another question is, is the Stone of Destiny given to all accounts, including those that are inactive/not-playable at the time of update, or only to active accounts?
Well.. it's better to do Innova then to be here without PTS... what will most likely happen
1) XPTO finds exploit and abuses. Server Crashes. NCSoft Fixes exploit, rolls back server.
2) XPTO finds exploit and abuses. Shares with friends. You see ppl lvl 99 in 3 days.
3) By migrating from hi5.pt5 to GD, you lose: Oly Tokens, TW Badges, event items, etc. 6 months worth of crying on forums
4) PTS = Less work for GMs.. as for example, to fix text errors, quests, etc.
5) Since we lost so much by now.. who will tell you we will not lose the Stone of Destiny as well?
Going Live without PTS is suicidal.. what's their plan.. lose the remaining 2.5k accounts?
I for one would like to Test new classes before making a decision.. looks like I will either level until 90 with current class and then make a decision based on the player QQ in forums/vent/etc.
whoever says PTS in NCWest is to find bugs is ignorant at best... NCWest doesnt have developers, they can't change a line in L2 source code, the release they use for PTS is already the stable and fixed version from Korean + english translation (which used to be the only thing they could do, as translation is back to korea now)
all these years, PTS was always meant for NCWest players to know the changes before it goes live, not matter what GMs have said in the past... all of this because of the lack of detail on patch notes, item database that isnt updated since hellbound days, lack of proper wiki, among other things... players always had to rely on PTS to learn the game, and for that reason, GMs always had to drop mastery codex, epics, element stones/crystals, or else PTS would be empty in the 3rd day... unless u really think all those ppl pvping outside giran are really worried about translation bugs...
lmfao guess I'll just sit on my lvl 85 chars as they are for awhile longer, and let all those people who will jump blindly into their chosen awakening class tell us how it goes...
As many of you have noticed, we have been pretty busy in past weeks and unfortunately we haven’t been able to post any update about the PTS. Due to the release of Truly Free and other technical considerations, we will not have a Goddess of Destruction PTS. We sincerely apologize to all of you who have been waiting an update on this topic, and thank you for your understanding.
Great things are coming to Lineage II, and we hope you are all as excited as we are about the Goddess of Destruction and Truly Free live launch date on November 30!
Gratz Necro_Prince!!! I can say that i'm glad about your decission about no PTS. I really don't understand who cry here: developers of 3rd party programs or users of them? They need PTS for update delay? LoL!!! A normal user already know what class like to play for his fun but a "software" user don't know how to exploit server for his income or "to be a factor" on server. I think a lot of people is tired to PvP vs machine skills. At least the launch will be clean for few weeks and i think staff will can see in that time "keys" to detect people that start to cheat after some time. There are multiple discussions about classes, weapons,etc in GoD thread and if someone want more there are another sites promoted event here that have another translations, etc. Btw, can someone tell me 1 bug resolved in PTS and he participated on PTS to discover it? Ofc, none can answer, and you know why? Because only few people were interested to test new updates and the other people from PTS were more interested in "what are new vulnerabilities on server" and the real bugs of server were announced after live launch and not on PTS time. So, YES!!! WE DON'T NEED PTS!!! WE WANT GoD LIVE LAUNCH!!! I'm pretty sure that a lot of players don't even have an account on forum but they read topics as annonymous, are agree with me. Btw, even i don't post too much, i read almost every important thread and i'm tired to see same "QQ team" with 20-30 members that they always have something to complain about. The servers have more than those 20-30 players. And btw, servers become f2p, so it's a priviledge to play. Think about this!
Gratz Necro_Prince!!! I can say that i'm glad about your decission about no PTS. I really don't understand who cry here: developers of 3rd party programs or users of them? They need PTS for update delay? LoL!!! A normal user already know what class like to play for his fun but a "software" user don't know how to exploit server for his income or "to be a factor" on server. I think a lot of people is tired to PvP vs machine skills. At least the launch will be clean for few weeks and i think staff will can see in that time "keys" to detect people that start to cheat after some time. There are multiple discussions about classes, weapons,etc in GoD thread and if someone want more there are another sites promoted event here that have another translations, etc. Btw, can someone tell me 1 bug resolved in PTS and he participated on PTS to discover it? Ofc, none can answer, and you know why? Because only few people were interested to test new updates and the other people from PTS were more interested in "what are new vulnerabilities on server" and the real bugs of server were announced after live launch and not on PTS time. So, YES!!! WE DON'T NEED PTS!!! WE WANT GoD LIVE LAUNCH!!! I'm pretty sure that a lot of players don't even have an account on forum but they read topics as annonymous, are agree with me. Btw, even i don't post too much, i read almost every important thread and i'm tired to see same "QQ team" with 20-30 members that they always have something to complain about. The servers have more than those 20-30 players. And btw, servers become f2p, so it's a priviledge to play. Think about this!
You like stabbing people and do fast damage? -Roll rogue
You like doing a lot of ranged damage? -Roll archer
You like being the tank for the party? -Roll tank
You like being a supporting fighter? -Roll Enchanter
What is there to test?
All of the new classes resemble the old classes with more skills...
Gratz Necro_Prince!!! I can say that i'm glad about your decission about no PTS. I really don't understand who cry here: developers of 3rd party programs or users of them? They need PTS for update delay? LoL!!! A normal user already know what class like to play for his fun but a "software" user don't know how to exploit server for his income or "to be a factor" on server. I think a lot of people is tired to PvP vs machine skills. At least the launch will be clean for few weeks and i think staff will can see in that time "keys" to detect people that start to cheat after some time. There are multiple discussions about classes, weapons,etc in GoD thread and if someone want more there are another sites promoted event here that have another translations, etc. Btw, can someone tell me 1 bug resolved in PTS and he participated on PTS to discover it? Ofc, none can answer, and you know why? Because only few people were interested to test new updates and the other people from PTS were more interested in "what are new vulnerabilities on server" and the real bugs of server were announced after live launch and not on PTS time. So, YES!!! WE DON'T NEED PTS!!! WE WANT GoD LIVE LAUNCH!!! I'm pretty sure that a lot of players don't even have an account on forum but they read topics as annonymous, are agree with me. Btw, even i don't post too much, i read almost every important thread and i'm tired to see same "QQ team" with 20-30 members that they always have something to complain about. The servers have more than those 20-30 players. And btw, servers become f2p, so it's a priviledge to play. Think about this!
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I need to test PTS to decide what new class I will do and what is the type of element of my new skills... And there are a lot of bad text translated and links broken in PTS...
Gratz Necro_Prince!!! I can say that i'm glad about your decission about no PTS. I really don't understand who cry here: developers of 3rd party programs or users of them? They need PTS for update delay? LoL!!! A normal user already know what class like to play for his fun but a "software" user don't know how to exploit server for his income or "to be a factor" on server. I think a lot of people is tired to PvP vs machine skills. At least the launch will be clean for few weeks and i think staff will can see in that time "keys" to detect people that start to cheat after some time. There are multiple discussions about classes, weapons,etc in GoD thread and if someone want more there are another sites promoted event here that have another translations, etc. Btw, can someone tell me 1 bug resolved in PTS and he participated on PTS to discover it? Ofc, none can answer, and you know why? Because only few people were interested to test new updates and the other people from PTS were more interested in "what are new vulnerabilities on server" and the real bugs of server were announced after live launch and not on PTS time. So, YES!!! WE DON'T NEED PTS!!! WE WANT GoD LIVE LAUNCH!!! I'm pretty sure that a lot of players don't even have an account on forum but they read topics as annonymous, are agree with me. Btw, even i don't post too much, i read almost every important thread and i'm tired to see same "QQ team" with 20-30 members that they always have something to complain about. The servers have more than those 20-30 players. And btw, servers become f2p, so it's a priviledge to play. Think about this!
What SW developers? U mean bots? Sad to dissapoint you but this guys are far ahead to NC West, they have this stuff working on ru off and korea servers, they dont need NA PTS to make bots work, since they have other places to work this stuff out at. So this is very poor excuse to celebrate no PTS and screwing up many people u threw up in here.
This update is really too big to do it w/o PTS. Many people were counting on PTS in english. You cant get on korean pts, and russian pts ... dont have any idea how to get there and cant read cyrilic and dont speak russian so i was waiting for english PTS like many other people.
Your other descriptions are good enough for PVE.. but if you plan to get involved in full scale PVP.. you need to work as a team/clan and adapt your likings and playstyle, so you can contribute in a positive manner to the party/clan.
Deciding based only on what you want is arrogant and it means you shouldn't be playing a MMO.. but that's my opinion. :)
What SW developers? U mean bots? Sad to dissapoint you but this guys are far ahead to NC West, they have this stuff working on ru off and korea servers, they dont need NA PTS to make bots work, since they have other places to work this stuff out at. So this is very poor excuse to celebrate no PTS and screwing up many people u threw up in here.
This update is really too big to do it w/o PTS. Many people were counting on PTS in english. You cant get on korean pts, and russian pts ... dont have any idea how to get there and cant read cyrilic and dont speak russian so i was waiting for english PTS like many other people.
Sad but true.. 3rd party devs know more about the game then NCWest.
IMHO NCWest deployment team should learn a bit from real devs... since all their priorities seem to be all wrong..
"The three most dangerous things are a programmer with a soldering iron, a manager who codes, and a user who gets ideas."
If only innova would let ppl to transfer their chars to innova servers I think noone would play L2 at ncna servers.Your failure at communication is hilarious.Thats why ppl play on bugged private servers and you are trying to get them back at official with the biggest fail of your history.We are paying to play atm but look at the responses u get from the customer service.A big nothing.Imagine how things will be after game goes free to play.
If anyone from innova reading these forums please give us transfer opportunity...
GMs i think most of the ppl can be patient (again) and wait a bit longer for the live_GoD, we all prefer to test some things first so plz reconsider the obvious, the release of a PTS.
aye very clueless cause I had already posted here that on day 2 of Korean PTS the Russian programmers behind zR had already patched it for the new update so really..
anybody who thinks no 3rd party soft upon GoD Go Live is very naive, be that NCWest or Innova servers..
back on topic: any update from NCWest on this issue or should we take this as a confirm now that it will be soon F2P = No Customer Support ?
You like stabbing people and do fast damage? -Roll rogue
You like doing a lot of ranged damage? -Roll archer
You like being the tank for the party? -Roll tank
You like being a supporting fighter? -Roll Enchanter
What is there to test?
All of the new classes resemble the old classes with more skills...
Play whatever you enjoy most and have fun...:D
Exactly the point I was trying to make. This is a big update people, think of it as a new l2, when you started playing l2 you probably didn't knew anything about the class you were playing and everything that comes with it.
When I did my first prof, I had no idea what I was going to be.
You don't know the half of it. They want it so badly, and so soon, that they want the PTS just to play GoD two weeks earlier than scheduled. No one's actually interested in testing anything for the well-being of the game, they just want to be sure they pick the most uber class possible so they can win at the game better. I don't know a **** thing about GoD aside from auction house and horsies, and I won't lose a minute of sleep over not having a peeteesss. I don't know why people can't enjoy the game without having advance knowledge of every single facet of the game. I guess WoW instilled some bad tendencies in people.
So we have completely different goals. For me it's not a race to 99 and it's not a competition. But your point of view is as valid as mine o.c.
If you really think that my point of view is as valid as yours and acknowledge that your goals are different from ours, don't try to tell us that rerolling is no big deal when it is to us and that we shouldn't be taking this so hard.
Gratz Necro_Prince!!! I can say that i'm glad about your decission about no PTS. I really don't understand who cry here: developers of 3rd party programs or users of them? They need PTS for update delay? LoL!!! A normal user already know what class like to play for his fun but a "software" user don't know how to exploit server for his income or "to be a factor" on server. I think a lot of people is tired to PvP vs machine skills. At least the launch will be clean for few weeks and i think staff will can see in that time "keys" to detect people that start to cheat after some time. There are multiple discussions about classes, weapons,etc in GoD thread and if someone want more there are another sites promoted event here that have another translations, etc. Btw, can someone tell me 1 bug resolved in PTS and he participated on PTS to discover it? Ofc, none can answer, and you know why? Because only few people were interested to test new updates and the other people from PTS were more interested in "what are new vulnerabilities on server" and the real bugs of server were announced after live launch and not on PTS time. So, YES!!! WE DON'T NEED PTS!!! WE WANT GoD LIVE LAUNCH!!! I'm pretty sure that a lot of players don't even have an account on forum but they read topics as annonymous, are agree with me. Btw, even i don't post too much, i read almost every important thread and i'm tired to see same "QQ team" with 20-30 members that they always have something to complain about. The servers have more than those 20-30 players. And btw, servers become f2p, so it's a priviledge to play. Think about this!
Others have already posted about how deluded most of this post was.
I just want to point out that after servers become f2p, NC is still at the mercy of even those who don't buy NC Coins to keep their servers populated enough to keep people who will buy NC Coins interested in playing.
Without others to play with and against, the paying people will leave too.
You like stabbing people and do fast damage? -Roll rogue
You like doing a lot of ranged damage? -Roll archer
You like being the tank for the party? -Roll tank
You like being a supporting fighter? -Roll Enchanter
What is there to test?
All of the new classes resemble the old classes with more skills...
Play whatever you enjoy most and have fun...:D
Except all the changes interrelate with each other. It's not as black-and-white as you think especially with some classes.
With racial skills, changed wit/men/str/etc. stats, changes to things like run speed, weight limits, weapon/armor masteries, etc., in combination with comparisons to other race/gear/class combinations, it all piles up into something that you can't really get a feel for from reading the changes off a page.
Right now Elves are the fastest race in the game, making Elf ranged classes great at kiting in open fields.
But how will they fare in the same open fields against other races/classes once the run speed is normalized across all the other races in GoD? How will the new skills/gear combinations affect that outcome?
How will they do in pve areas after awakening? Would you even like how they play, regardless of how well they perform in pvp/pve areas?
The only way to find this out is to try it out and without the PTS or some other method, we could be stuck with something we don't even like when we awaken.
whoever says PTS in NCWest is to find bugs is ignorant at best... NCWest doesnt have developers, they can't change a line in L2 source code, the release they use for PTS is already the stable and fixed version from Korean + english translation (which used to be the only thing they could do, as translation is back to korea now)
all these years, PTS was always meant for NCWest players to know the changes before it goes live, not matter what GMs have said in the past... all of this because of the lack of detail on patch notes, item database that isnt updated since hellbound days, lack of proper wiki, among other things... players always had to rely on PTS to learn the game, and for that reason, GMs always had to drop mastery codex, epics, element stones/crystals, or else PTS would be empty in the 3rd day... unless u really think all those ppl pvping outside giran are really worried about translation bugs...
Meh, there are only 8 classes anyway. Not hard to choose what you want to be. Plus there is much information on some forums as to what the Korean and Russian players have done with their options. The lack of PTS is not alarming if you have done your research.
I am sure the NCWest team told themselves "dammed if we do dammed if we don't"
Gratz Necro_Prince!!! I can say that i'm glad about your decission about no PTS. I really don't understand who cry here: developers of 3rd party programs or users of them? They need PTS for update delay? LoL!!! A normal user already know what class like to play for his fun but a "software" user don't know how to exploit server for his income or "to be a factor" on server. I think a lot of people is tired to PvP vs machine skills. At least the launch will be clean for few weeks and i think staff will can see in that time "keys" to detect people that start to cheat after some time. There are multiple discussions about classes, weapons,etc in GoD thread and if someone want more there are another sites promoted event here that have another translations, etc. Btw, can someone tell me 1 bug resolved in PTS and he participated on PTS to discover it? Ofc, none can answer, and you know why? Because only few people were interested to test new updates and the other people from PTS were more interested in "what are new vulnerabilities on server" and the real bugs of server were announced after live launch and not on PTS time. So, YES!!! WE DON'T NEED PTS!!! WE WANT GoD LIVE LAUNCH!!! I'm pretty sure that a lot of players don't even have an account on forum but they read topics as annonymous, are agree with me. Btw, even i don't post too much, i read almost every important thread and i'm tired to see same "QQ team" with 20-30 members that they always have something to complain about. The servers have more than those 20-30 players. And btw, servers become f2p, so it's a priviledge to play. Think about this!
Software are ok since the 2nd day of Korean PTS. Check Youtube, some russian frapsing PTS Sieges was using it already. I think you fail as using argument about something you don't know at all. It seems you don't understand too why people wanted to get PTS. I will let you re read the whole thread before
I understand so many are disappointed, because they are used to play this game with every tiny bit maxed out and planned to perfection.
But please don't forget, a PTS was never thought as a means for players to play it failsafe, it was there for the company to get rid of software bugs, not less and not more.
Most of you are really well informed and experts on this game, so I assume you're in no way totally clueless which class to play after 85.
It comes down to two or maybe three choices at most, and as some already mentioned,
it's no big deal to reroll or use a sub if you made a mistake.
So please have a bit more faith in your own decisions, neither life nor any game worth its name can be and should be planned to death.
Let's start a list :
Quest bugged
Translations errors
Items texsture missing
Campaigns not starting
Graphics crash
NPC unreachable
what else ? =)
Meh, there are only 8 classes anyway. Not hard to choose what you want to be. Plus there is much information on some forums as to what the Korean and Russian players have done with their options. The lack of PTS is not alarming if you have done your research.
How could I do my research without taking in consideration my stuff ?
How could I do my research without taking in consideration my stuff ?
Indeed I was thinking of you, Elmar, Yidao and others when typing that. :D There are videos, images, personal insight that have been posted about GoD on rochand. No PTS still does not seem like the end of the world some make it out to be.
if you've "done your research", could you please answer this list for me, without PTS?
- Which skills I'm gonna lose when awakened and which ones when learning skills (to plan which skills I can keep or trade)
- The mechanics and chances of the box which gives a random new codex (to plan how I'm gonna spend the essences for new codex)
- If holy pomanders are kept or deleted after awakening (again, plan which skills to keep)
- what are the enchant routes of the new skills (plan on skill oe obviously)
- if TW quests changed, regarging classes and levels to kill to count as a quest kill, and regarding badges rewards (to plan if we should spend badges now or save them)
- new ornaments, will it be random as today? will it be chance to get a specific one or nothing? (same)
- augments skill level, will the skill level increase now or will we be stuck with lvl 76 skills (to plan what should I do with my current augments)
if you can get all these info without a PTS and without relying on terribly translated stuff, props to you
if you don't care enough to plan those things ahead, keep being a /fail at the game and just use "programs" excuse for your failure
Complaining has become a habit nowadays. It doesn't matter whether an update is good or bad. From the first day of the announcement till the day of the official launch (and even after that) many people complain and complain. Very rarely i see any gesture of appreciation from the players any support to the GMs. Yes! You all were paying for the service, all are customers - and everyone has received the service and customer support.
If you want better customer support then you should pay more. If you want to be kissed everyday - pay more. You can get almost everything for a right price. So don't expect royal service for some 10-20 bucks per month.
You are given a chance to choose a class - and you complain again. It would be very fair that if you played a tank for all these years - then you awaken as a tank and so on. If you want to play a different class - start a new character. But behaving like spoiled children and crying the whole day i want this and i want that wount make you any good.
I like everything in this game no matter if its "good" or "bad". Thats why i play it for so many years. If you dont like it then just go. And saying "i payed for so many year..." means - you payed for service and you received it. Now that service becomes free (usually normal people become happy when they get discount for a service or if the service becomes free).
Thanks NCsoft! I totally like the idea with no PTS.. no head start or sneak peak :) Those who decide to change class will be stuck at it either way. IMO stay on the class you played from 1 to 85,100% or take a wild card.
As many of you have noticed, we have been pretty busy in past weeks and unfortunately we haven’t been able to post any update about the PTS. Due to the release of Truly Free and other technical considerations, we will not have a Goddess of Destruction PTS. We sincerely apologize to all of you who have been waiting an update on this topic, and thank you for your understanding.
Great things are coming to Lineage II, and we hope you are all as excited as we are about the Goddess of Destruction and Truly Free live launch date on November 30!
This is MAJORLY bad, how can we know we will make the right choice then ?
I need to make a choice between enchanter and healer, how can i know wich be the right choice for my party group if i cant even TEST it, u should have done the opposite, make shure PTS is done correctly and enjoy people pay a lil longer then this, there is a serious problem of priority's , u'r player base wasnt waiting on free to play, far from, they were waiting on PTS .
Honneslty i wouldnt mind to wait some longer if we could have a PTS for that , annyone else feels like this too ?
This is MAJORLY bad, how can we know we will make the right choice then ?
I need to make a choice between enchanter and healer, how can i know wich be the right choice for my party group if i cant even TEST it, u should have done the opposite, make shure PTS is done correctly and enjoy people pay a lil longer then this, there is a serious problem of priority's , u'r player base wasnt waiting on free to play, far from, they were waiting on PTS .
Honneslty i wouldnt mind to wait some longer if we could have a PTS for that , annyone else feels like this too ?
Cardinal : 85 100% l80 DC 100% l61 ES
Eva's Saint 85 100% l80card 100%l78 DC
Dominator 85 100% l80 Titan 100% l61 BD
what would u rather play? Cardi/EE or Dominator?
same *****. u have 3 toons lvl 86 so shouldnt be any problem for u
stop QQing
Complaining has become a habit nowadays. It doesn't matter whether an update is good or bad. From the first day of the announcement till the day of the official launch (and even after that) many people complain and complain. Very rarely i see any gesture of appreciation from the players any support to the GMs. Yes! You all were paying for the service, all are customers - and everyone has received the service and customer support.
If you want better customer support then you should pay more. If you want to be kissed everyday - pay more. You can get almost everything for a right price. So don't expect royal service for some 10-20 bucks per month.
You are given a chance to choose a class - and you complain again. It would be very fair that if you played a tank for all these years - then you awaken as a tank and so on. If you want to play a different class - start a new character. But behaving like spoiled children and crying the whole day i want this and i want that wount make you any good.
I like everything in this game no matter if its "good" or "bad". Thats why i play it for so many years. If you dont like it then just go. And saying "i payed for so many year..." means - you payed for service and you received it. Now that service becomes free (usually normal people become happy when they get discount for a service or if the service becomes free).
oh...almost forgot....get real live you noobs :)
if u think that playing a tank for all those years makes it so 'normal' to awaken as a tnak means just u'r a one way cat, and that u'r a person that is happy wiht that path that OTHER people lay out for you, i like to make my desciscions for myself and i do not want others to decide my faith.
and a tank is a real bad example utake, if for example u are a bladedancer and u have to awake as enchanter, that is a WORLD of diffirence between those 2 play styles and some people might wanna take a melee instead then or a mage or somthign that corresponds them better, but thye haveto be able to TEST that !
Cardinal : 85 100% l80 DC 100% l61 ES
Eva's Saint 85 100% l80card 100%l78 DC
Dominator 85 100% l80 Titan 100% l61 BD
what would u rather play? Cardi/EE or Dominator?
same *****. u have 3 toons lvl 86 so shouldnt be any problem for u
stop QQing
There is a problem when u consider there are other healers in party
/handfacepalm
I'm not one of them solo players i got a constant, and we really think things trough before we pick somthing , no rash desciscions and good organisation, unlike some who just log and see what they get, i log on and i KNOW what i get.
said 3 toons. not 1 account.
i also have a constant but when GoD came we figured out what type of class we wanted to play.
Cardi wanted to be healer.
DC wanted to be enchanter.
AL wanted to be summoner.
Palla wanted to be tank.
Advent wanted to be dagger.
SR wanted to be archer.
Titan wanted to be warrior.
Dreadnought wanted to be warrior.
And duelist wanted to be MAGE!!! WTF???
watch videos. read forums. not hard to figure out what class u wanna play.
(not saying i dont want a PTS but the uber QQing is so annoying)
Software are ok since the 2nd day of Korean PTS. Check Youtube, some russian frapsing PTS Sieges was using it already. I think you fail as using argument about something you don't know at all. It seems you don't understand too why people wanted to get PTS. I will let you re read the whole thread before
I think you must learn read descriptions. That russian said: "I didn't use any programs, that was may be Korean feature in pvp zone."
Here is the link about siege you are talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTFdl__EEy8
@Off: If stupidity would hurt, i think a lot of people would scream on the streets.
if u think that playing a tank for all those years makes it so 'normal' to awaken as a tnak means just u'r a one way cat, and that u'r a person that is happy wiht that path that OTHER people lay out for you, i like to make my desciscions for myself and i do not want others to decide my faith.
and a tank is a real bad example utake, if for example u are a bladedancer and u have to awake as enchanter, that is a WORLD of diffirence between those 2 play styles and some people might wanna take a melee instead then or a mage or somthign that corresponds them better, but thye haveto be able to TEST that !
geez
This game is a program. A program is a sequence of instructions written to perform a specified task with a computer. You were following a path that OTHER people laid out for you for all this time and only now you realize it? It is your decision to run left or right but you dont have the liberty to do anything outside the programmed functions.
If you played a bladedancer and you became a spectral dancer why didnt you complain back then that they didnt give you the option to become an archmage?
If you played from to lvl 85 as an enchanter-sws and you enjoyed it all the way through then you can enjoy the enchanter in GoD as well. People who didnt like their class - reroled. If someone played a healer for all these years he can continue to play as healer in GoD. The game changes in GoD but that much that you cant play same role as before. People spent years to get their favorite character to lvl 85 with a lot of effort. People who wanted to change started a new character and lvled it with equal effort. But to surpass all that years of lvling and get everything ready and lvled is unfair.
What you wanna test? There is a reason its called NEW. Do you really think that playing for a week will give you enough understanding of everything?
There are no bad classes in this game. All classes are very strong in all the aspects. Its the players that are weak.
The description of the skills and classes on the L2 site has enough information to understand what class does what.
said 3 toons. not 1 account.
i also have a constant but when GoD came we figured out what type of class we wanted to play.
Cardi wanted to be healer.
DC wanted to be enchanter.
AL wanted to be summoner.
Palla wanted to be tank.
Advent wanted to be dagger.
SR wanted to be archer.
Titan wanted to be warrior.
Dreadnought wanted to be warrior.
And duelist wanted to be MAGE!!! WTF???
watch videos. read forums. not hard to figure out what class u wanna play.
(not saying i dont want a PTS but the uber QQing is so annoying)
Those are verry obvious changes, but in our formation its gonna be a whole lot of similars
look:
Cardnial = healer
EE= healer
OL = enchanter
AL = summoner
EM = summoner
BD = Enchanter
SWS= Enchanter
WC = enchanter
See the pattern ?
a whole pack of healers enchanters and summoners
cant be in GOD , so we NEED to be able to test other classes to know what to do, we're not like u we're not a typical constant, at least we're orinigal thinking.
said 3 toons. not 1 account.
i also have a constant but when GoD came we figured out what type of class we wanted to play.
Cardi wanted to be healer.
DC wanted to be enchanter.
AL wanted to be summoner.
Palla wanted to be tank.
Advent wanted to be dagger.
SR wanted to be archer.
Titan wanted to be warrior.
Dreadnought wanted to be warrior.
And duelist wanted to be MAGE!!! WTF???
watch videos. read forums. not hard to figure out what class u wanna play.
(not saying i dont want a PTS but the uber QQing is so annoying)
This game is a program. A program is a sequence of instructions written to perform a specified task with a computer. You were following a path that OTHER people laid out for you for all this time and only now you realize it? It is your decision to run left or right but you dont have the liberty to do anything outside the programmed functions.
If you played a bladedancer and you became a spectral dancer why didnt you complain back then that they didnt give you the option to become an archmage?
If you played from to lvl 85 as an enchanter-sws and you enjoyed it all the way through then you can enjoy the enchanter in GoD as well. People who didnt like their class - reroled. If someone played a healer for all these years he can continue to play as healer in GoD. The game changes in GoD but that much that you cant play same role as before. People spent years to get their favorite character to lvl 85 with a lot of effort. People who wanted to change started a new character and lvled it with equal effort. But to surpass all that years of lvling and get everything ready and lvled is unfair.
What you wanna test? There is a reason its called NEW. Do you really think that playing for a week will give you enough understanding of everything?
There are no bad classes in this game. All classes are very strong in all the aspects. Its the players that are weak.
The description of the skills and classes on the L2 site has enough information to understand what class does what.
Talk with Draecke about "enchanter-sws" being some playstyle and then post again...
I think you must learn read descriptions. That russian said: "I didn't use any programs, that was may be Korean feature in pvp zone."
Here is the link about siege you are talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTFdl__EEy8
@Off: If stupidity would hurt, i think a lot of people would scream on the streets.
start screaming then as you're obviously clueless.. login on Naia check my clan tag and guess again where I get my info from..
and i dont need to talk to anyone if i want to learn about a playstyle or a class.
I played every class :cool:
let me try to summarize from a strong PvP/PvE SwM point of view:
- did you know in GoD enchanter bufs will have pink fairies dancing around u all the time ?
- no sword/blunt passives
- forced dual sword/blunt masteries
- bd/sws old hvy masteries >>>>>>> then new hvy masteries cause it has crit dam reduction
- less focus on pvp cause 90% of the koreans that play enchanter are female and they don't like pvp (no joke)
also please pm me a time u can be around on Naia and I'll show u how an SwM can play cause most don't even come close to my play style.. took me 5+ years to develop my char to that "pwn" level and the GoD update wipes it out completely so to that point yes I'm biased which is why I need a PTS to decide if I quit or try something else..
Hm, main page still have account related bug for few years ... Ok, tnx NC for it =)
My accounts expire but I still want to speak here >.<
i also have a constant but when GoD came we figured out what type of class we wanted to play.
Cardi wanted to be healer.
DC wanted to be enchanter.
AL wanted to be summoner.
Palla wanted to be tank.
Advent wanted to be dagger.
SR wanted to be archer.
Titan wanted to be warrior.
Dreadnought wanted to be warrior.
And duelist wanted to be MAGE!!! WTF???
Mate, you play wrong game. First of all your current const have 1 healer, 1 buffer, 1 summoner, 1 tank and 5 DD ? You never play L2, so leave this forum please. L2 const have at least BP+EE+SwS+BD+OL/DC.
Ok, let's look on this issue from 3 sides.
1. NCW/Innova:
- Innova gonna start EU servers 30/11 (they have some delays now but who care?), so if NCW will start later - it mean that 30-40% of players will start play EU and who knows how much of them will come back when NCW release GoD?
- NCW dont have set of "spare" servers. And they not plan to make phisical relocation of Naia hardware. I belive they will use PTS (that is located in USA) to copy Naia's account and use it as Naia. Not sure what will be regarding "new servers" but I still dont see any official announcement that new servers will be started 30/11. Maybe they will be started in march'83 when Naia's old hardware will be moved to USA.
- Actually NCW always give PTS just to test localization, nothing more. Couple of time PTS was used to hide delays on live (hello PTS events) but anyway.
- dont compare NCK (44 servers? Oh, wait ... after merge it's like 33?) and RU (13 servers online and 14-th is process - poll about name open) with NCW (2 half-dead servers). Care about 30+ servers? Yes. Care about 13+ servers? Yes. Care about 2 servers? Not sure ...
2. Players:
- Yes, players use PTS to be prepared for live because patch notes NEVER contain full list of changes.
- It's major change of party size (actually for 85- toon this size will make huge problems and if it's 76- toon - it will be fail). Why? Coz till 85 you need 2 enchanters (bd/sws - they have combo d+s and wc/pp/ol) and 76+ toon with class change stone can become tank instead of second enchanter but 75- toon w\o stone ... dunno what to do.
- Party classes. Actually we need to change party with 3-4 enchanters to party with 1 enchanter (so at least 50% of enchanters must reroll or play solo). Also it's big question what classes must be in good pvp party. We play a lot of RU PTS and find best setup and it's not what we see as recomended by NC. Other PTS players make fun of our party before pvp with us, and were very surprized after pvp (like I was surprized Nova mage party with duelator (I like this class name xd) ). Also best pve and pvp setups are different.
- What will be first thing player will make on just installed GoD? Go to make 10 min instance quest for 4-th class. Play with 3-rd class till 90+ lvl will not work at all. And how you gonna select 4-th class if you not sure about party? If you dont have const - np, but for ppl that have/want const - it's big problem.
3. New update:
- I'm not sure if NCW test localization properly
- I'm not sure that all prepared (like RU find out that all players spawn in same point and mass login easy drop server)
- I'm not sure that major bugs are fixed like summon w\o skills, player skill working wrongly or not working at all.
- Yes, any possible issue with lost manor, oly tokens, quest items, mails, etc ...
Indeed I was thinking of you, Elmar, Yidao and others when typing that. :D There are videos, images, personal insight that have been posted about GoD on rochand. No PTS still does not seem like the end of the world some make it out to be.
well if you read rochand then u also know me and trust me when I say certain things you can not decide upon purely based on reading forums, you need to be able to verify changes in gameplay/feel which are so essentially different then before by having a PTS of sorts..
I'll again use myself as an example:
- you can not compare the current play style of the 3rd classes that are slotted into the Enchanter class as equal
- if all Enchanter classes would awaken as such you will have per server 1+k Enchanters (say roughly 20~25% of the server population) aka way more then you would ever need for parties so it's a given a lot of them will awaken as something different.. kind of hard to do without checking the other awaken classes play styles
- the existing 3rd class enchanters have complete different types of gear but only BD's will have the right gear for their new skill passives/masteries so all others are forced to invest in re-equiping their chars if staying as Enchanter..
Please ignore this thread, let the people cry out loud and continue your work as a producer with stable servers and corresponding services.
Thank you and see'ya in the game!
(anyhow, after nov. 30 this thread should and will die)
And now something else, i give it a shot and try to answer your questions:
if you've "done your research", could you please answer this list for me, without PTS?
- Which skills I'm gonna lose when awakened and which ones when learning skills (to plan which skills I can keep or trade)
I dont know. I read somewhere that every skill of the Awekened class is unlearned and acquired new ones wich mostly similar to the old ones. I also search for a good description about this.
- The mechanics and chances of the box which gives a random new codex (to plan how I'm gonna spend the essences for new codex)
Should be really low ~15-20%, but you know the L2 random rates and can be also an empty box :S
- If holy pomanders are kept or deleted after awakening (again, plan which skills to keep)
a) Healer classes will recieve 'sacred pomander' as follows:
- Cardinal: 1 -> 7
- Eva's Saint: 1 -> 7
- Shillien Saint: 4 -> 7
b) New skills are available for skill transfer after the completion of the third class transfer
c) Eva's Saints and Shillien Saints can now learn the following skills to the same level as Cardinals, and healing skills are now upgradable:
- Greater Battle Heal Lv 33 (skill can be strengthened)
- Major Heal, Lv 11 (skill can be strengthened)
- Resurrection Lv 9
d) The "Inquisitor" mode for healers who completed the second class transfer has been removed, instead the magic and weakening skills used while in "Inquisitor" mode can now be acquired and used in normal mode. However, upgraded skills are excluded and must be acquired through skill links.
The three types of "Holy Pomander" items are now destructible.
- what are the enchant routes of the new skills (plan on skill oe obviously)
- It is so easy to see it when the game launched, no need any pre-made plans for it just a basic logic (probably or hopefully the skill descriptions will be accurate), but will be good to have at least some table of this.
- if TW quests changed, regarging classes and levels to kill to count as a quest kill, and regarding badges rewards (to plan if we should spend badges now or save them)
No info found about this. :(
- new ornaments, will it be random as today? will it be chance to get a specific one or nothing? (same)
Again some quote from the wiki:
Changes to Item List of "Territory Manager"
Addition of rune clips and magic ornaments that imbue R-Grade or higher belts with options. For the older ornaments i think they will still random as now. (lack of info :( but if you considering that there isn't any info about the old ornaments, that may mean that didn't changed)
- augments skill level, will the skill level increase now or will we be stuck with lvl 76 skills (to plan what should I do with my current augments)
No info about it yet, but the infobase of todays augmentation skills are also based on players experience, so we must wait for some info as in the past.
if you don't care enough to plan those things ahead, keep being a /fail at the game and just use "programs" excuse for your failure
Seems you post these question for some time now. NCW Staff defenietly wont give you any info about these. The wiki that i linked is containing every info that CAN be known as today (may lack of information at some part). Everybody can post more info at their forums and create already an accurate source of informations about our beloved game ;) I hope you got at least "some" info. Also these plans are only for highend players, lower level players should know them when they reach that levels. Ingame you have also a lot of information available that can be used with some logic. One thig is sure, you cannot avoid to search and read about GoD, wich is frustrating a 'bit, but defenietly worth the time to spend on it. You just should mix the already known parts with the powerwiki+google combo.
PS: Dont get me wrong, PTS should be really good, but we must live without it now and take our own way wich can be risky without testing things out first.
PS: Dont get me wrong, PTS should be really good, but we must live without it now and take our own way wich can be risky without testing things out first.
so far I haven't seen any good/reasonable explanation of why NCWest skips GoD PTS, other then the fact they chose to do so & obviously can cause we're soon no longer paying customers..
I predict pay services will be available which will allow you to undo any mistakes you make with your characters awakening. If you are allowed to practice awakening for free how in the world would our truly F2P game make any initial revenue?
Plus we have to keep in mind this version has been tested all over the world, the bugs aren’t the issue. Proper translation of content has never been an issue. The only thing PTS allows this community to do is work out how we will play the game and reduce the amount of in-game resource we waste figuring out the best way to do things.
Now if I am going to charge for convenience and in-game resources why would I want to give you a opportunity to work out the most efficient way of achieving your goals?
Or they could have just run out of time and needed to meet their launch in Fall 2011… the world will never know.
at this point, yes. unfortunately we are addicted to a game with very poor customer support.
Will we even get patch notes at launch? lulz
patch notes are already posted. LULZ
My guess would be Stone of Destiny available at a store near you for an affordable price
it better be
I'll show u how an SwM can play cause most don't even come close to my play style.. took me 5+ years to develop my char to that "pwn" level and the GoD update wipes it out completely so to that point yes I'm biased which is why I need a PTS to decide if I quit or try something else..
simply this; for those of us who spent years and years and YEARS on our toon as it was, and now for the class to have no future after 85 is a huge disappointment and frustration; and finally to be unable to test other options is just a slap in the face. Joke is on us I guess. If we continue to play we must choose an entirely different class archetype... might as well start over at lvl 1, and preferably in another game.
Now if I am going to charge for convenience and in-game resources why would I want to give you a opportunity to work out the most efficient way of achieving your goals?
makes sense... we can use up our NCcoin undoing whatever destruction will be wrought upon us at update.
WTS Wynn Summoner lv86
I have to reroll when I found the class really sucks as much as I think it will. Owh wait, I can reroll on Innova and hope that server won't be AS DEAD as Naia after majority of Greeks and Russians left due to lag issues.
Does anyone know 100% how the Stone of Destiny works and if it can even be used after you awaken or, is the stone used when you awaken. I play a DC for my clans archer group. with the sws, bd, domin, and DC all merged into one class and the max party size changed to 7. How am I going to know if all the sws and bds changed to enchanters, will the toon I have been leveling for 3 years well even be needed. I have the name I want on the toon if I do a subclass separation I will lost the name I like all because the class a picked was not needed or i hate to play now. WE NEED A POLL TO FIND OUT HOW THE PLAYERS FEEL.<O:p</O:p
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Plus we have to keep in mind this version has been tested all over the world, the bugs aren’t the issue. Proper translation of content has never been an issue. The only thing PTS allows this community to do is work out how we will play the game and reduce the amount of in-game resource we waste figuring out the best way to do things.
If this is true then what in the hell have taken them to long to get the game translated. The content has changed but not all of it. The translation for all the old quests, rewards and NPC should all be the same. The first post about GOD was over 10 months ago, Some questions about GOD 02-09-2011 by Leonidar. The PTS should have been done and up over a month ago, the Russia servers did it what stops NCWEST servers from getting the job done in a resemble time?
[FONT=Verdana]Does anyone know 100% how the Stone of Destiny works and if it can even be used after you awaken or, is the stone used when you awaken.
On KOrea serveurs :
It allow you to c hoose any npc for awakening, and disappear after awakening
patch notes are already posted. LULZ
It's not official patch note, it's translation from ONE of Korean patch note, and there has been several update since now. Even the name are not finalized
I would advice NCsoft, to activate the PTS anyway with the all the characters created at level 85 and add boxes with R gear for the different archetypes in that way people can try several options for his/her characters, this will not kill or unbalance the game on any way so issue about it there
so far I haven't seen any good/reasonable explanation of why NCWest skips GoD PTS, other then the fact they chose to do so & obviously can cause we're soon no longer paying customers..
ther is and only will be one reason why someone wont do somthing
If you haven't played on a server running god then there is no way you are 100% sure. In the past the patch notes have been wrong.
Even the descriptions of manny skills we have now ingame are still incorrect.
U cant pick a class on a written description, because that's what it is, just a description of the skill, on paper it looks good, doesnt mean it is good in practice...
Its just like saying, i made a chocolate cake, u'd say mmm good i love chocolate, but when u will taste it , the cake will be bitter because i would have used pure chocolate and no sugar...
Actually i wouldn't be against that, i dun care if its similar time or even a bit after , but i wanna be able to test my skills before making a premanent desciscion that will affect the rest of my gaming time to folow that critical moment.
ChikariShu i would be delighted to taste some of your pastry next time i visit your country. I really appreciate a good chocolate cake that is sweet and tasty <3
I would advice NCsoft, to activate the PTS anyway with the all the characters created at level 85 and add boxes with R gear for the different archetypes in that way people can try several options for his/her characters, this will not kill or unbalance the game on any way so issue about it there
Instead of dynasty make it moirai less difficulties to classes in Moirai
Dynasty sucks for healers
ChikariShu i would be delighted to taste some of your pastry next time i visit your country. I really appreciate a good chocolate cake that is sweet and tasty <3
Sweet
But it think u missed to point i was trying to make...
i wonder how hard its to launch a "pts" just this wensday like omagad!!
all u do is dump the files on the server box (cus u have all the other **** done already from other pts u just wipe them files and replace with god) then release a lol client which u already have but u just wont release every1 knows that
then u let people login
o my lord that was hard o ye i forgot setting rates to 2982398232x and ur pretty much done
but ye i understand ur busy browsin them forums takes alot of time
wish i had such a job
cant i work for ncwest? hangin around behind pc watchin some youtube vid play some games then at 5pm YEA BABY IM GOING HOME!
Serious question to Necro_Prince: will we get Harmony update within the GoD update ?
(and please don't tell me you don't know what I'm talking about)
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I play a DC for my clans archer group. with the sws, bd, domin, and DC all merged into one class and the max party size changed to 7. How am I going to know if all the sws and bds changed to enchanters, will the toon I have been leveling for 3 years well even be needed.
I started for some testing a little archer at ruoff and i was ~lvl 43 and exped in Cruma. There was an awakened enchanter (probably a DC before) and buffed me. 30 min. buffs + victory and i exped 2 and a half levels (i was afk for ~5 minutes). You will be more than needed for an archer pt after your awakening :)
PTS is meant to be as close to the final version as possible. That is why we do not open up PTS early on when there are still many broken quests, bugged quest rewards, incorrect skill descriptions, and many other issues that make the game unplayable.
Regarding PTS length: I said "We do plan to have a longer PTS than with other updates.
Hi everyone,
we will not have a Goddess of Destruction PTS.
Tee-hee-hee!
Great things are coming to Lineage II, and we hope you are all as excited as we are!
What a great level of coordination and short-term planning you have there!
And awesome communication skills guys, there you go. :D
Tbh I don't understand you guys. (girls)
You were asking for GoD - you going get it.
You were asking for updated Lineage2 page - you got it!
You were asking for Patch notes - I saw them 3-4 moths ago!
And now something else, i give it a shot and try to answer your questions:
I dont know. I read somewhere that every skill of the Awekened class is unlearned and acquired new ones wich mostly similar to the old ones. I also search for a good description about this. thx for your /fail but thats not what I want to know, I'll ask again, I need an exact list of skills that you lose when awaken, and the ones that you lose as you learn new skills
Should be really low ~15-20%, but you know the L2 random rates and can be also an empty box :S "should be"? thx for another /fail
- This is something that you already choosed (why would you change your setup if that fits to your gameplay?) But here is a quote from terragamers wiki ( http://www.terragamers.net/wiki/index.php?title=Skill_Changes ) already choose? oh did I get 7 holy pomanders already? didn't notice god is already here... if I get more pomanders, I wanna know where to invest it more wisely, not on skills that will be deleted right away... another /fail
- It is so easy to see it when the game launched, no need any pre-made plans for it just a basic logic (probably or hopefully the skill descriptions will be accurate), but will be good to have at least some table of this.
yeah, it's so easy and cheap to see the average damage of an skill with certain route on robe users, light users and heavy users, buffed, not buffed, fully elemented, half elemented, non elemented... then all you do is change route to test the other one.... what about land rate? is so cheap to see if a land rate is reasonable without +chance, right? ****, ur so full of /fail
No info found about this. :( /f
Again some quote from the wiki:
For the older ornaments i think they will still random as now. (lack of info :( but if you considering that there isn't any info about the old ornaments, that may mean that didn't changed) i've seen this page, doesn't say if opening the box is random or not... /fail
No info about it yet, but the infobase of todays augmentation skills are also based on players experience, so we must wait for some info as in the past.
why should I wait, on PTS I'd augment myself and test it, as I did all those years in PTS... wait info from who? GMs? everytime I asked them about game mechanics, they told me to "ask the players on forums", pathetic... oh wait a sec, I see a patern here, are you a GM? do you work for ncwest? cause giving terrible info is their modus operandi....
Seems you post these question for some time now. NCW Staff defenietly wont give you any info about these. The wiki that i linked is containing every info that CAN be known as today (may lack of information at some part).
I never needed to ask those questions before, PTS answered all for me... I don't want half-***** innacurate and incomplete information, if I wanted this I'd have asked the GMs... they removed PTS from us, and gives what in return? good info? i dont think so...
LOL i had a reply removed from this topic. how many of you all had some removed. "this is not helpful or related to the topic......removed!" i just feel like many others thats posted far worse things my was just something about bein bliss and no response from gms on this topic. rumors of the prince must be true. and i thought he was new.
LOL i had a reply removed from this topic. how many of you all had some removed. "this is not helpful or related to the topic......removed!" i just feel like many others thats posted far worse things my was just something about bein bliss and no response from gms on this topic. rumors of the prince must be true. and i thought he was new.
i had the first reply in this thread before it was pruned.
i've had more posts deleted by admin than are currently available in my searchable history.
haven't read all the replies, so i don't know if someone throw out already this guess, anyway to me it seems like we'll have on the "truly free" model the opportunity to change class by paying. So the less we know the higher is the chance we're gonna pay for it. That fits perfectly with no PTS or any kind of testing chance
Even Innova made a PTS for a week or so. After they launch GD, in few days someone dupe many +8 Vesper weapons and throw them to the ground in many towns. 2700 accounts was banned ... Ppl, who just pick up duped weapons was banned ...
We don't have even 1 week PTS ...
I understand those few ppl, who don't want PTS - too much waiting for new update.
So, be strong, and don't cry, when you get many bugs, troubles and fails in GD without PTS.
I still believe all will be fine tbh.
There goes my plan to help the community by checking out old quests and areas, testing things and making walkthroughs of new quests. Stuff which the day-to-day dealing with clan issues doesn't really leave me time for on the live servers.
+1 this kind of ideas are the ones that made me respect you, Pony Master! :D
Tbh I don't understand you guys. (girls)
You were asking for GoD - you going get it.
You were asking for updated Lineage2 page - you got it!
You were asking for Patch notes - I saw them 3-4 moths ago!
Really strange ppl ;)
I missed that and am still missing... Google still has all answers, so not having a official updated website is only a fail by the official retailers, not really a problem if you take your time searching the web.
Of course I want an updated website, but it is no hell on earth not having it.
No PTS, on the other hand, is. There were PTS to High Five, which was only a minor patch to Freya (didn't have not even a Preveiw Site - At least I haven't found any). Now with a whole new SAGA we get no PTS and a rushed update.
I mean, for the classes, we can almost be certain of which to choose based on patch notes and videos from other servers and stuff like that.
Still, many other things do need testing to see if we like them.
But then again, even if we don't, we won't get anything more or less than what we will already get, so I guess "No PTS" is the way of NCI tell us "We don't care about what you think, you cried for the update and now you will have it our way!".
Way ironic with the Play your way page... Oh well...
Also, don't demand answers from this thread. This is a garbage dispenser, just like the Innova Thread we had or the Bot Thread we still have.
Things posted here are long and forgotten, unless they stand out as massive forum rule breaking.
In before the lock, in anyway, I just hope the update server has a huge band link, as I don't want to wait 3 days to be able to finish the update procedure.
GoD is the last chance for this game in western markets IMHO.
Sace
Indeed, I did post yesterday that we do not have an update about the PTS date, nor the launch date, nor the PTS settings.
To address the suggestion in the OP: PTS is meant to be as close to the final version as possible. That is why we do not open up PTS early on when there are still many broken quests, bugged quest rewards, incorrect skill descriptions, and many other issues that make the game unplayable.
Regarding GD launch in "Fall 2011." We have said that because that is the most accurate estimation we can give at this time. We do not yet know if it will happen at the beginning of fall, the middle, or the end. "Fall" here in the USA is technically from September 21ish to December 21ish (it's true, "Winter" doesn't start until almost February!). I know everyone is eager to play GD but please do not get yourself attached to a particular date in your mind as you may be driving yourself to disappointment.
Regarding PTS length: I said "We do plan to have a longer PTS than with other updates. But I don't know yet it if will be 2 weeks, 1 month, or what." I said that 2 months ago, (a lot of things can change in 2 months) and in that time the PTS planning is leaning towards 2 weeks. But, again, that is not final.
Regarding PTS settings: I posted before that, closer to the PTS time, I plan to open a thread dedicated to suggestions for PTS settings.
Of course, players are welcome to discuss dates, settings, etcetera as they like, but until things are finalized please understand that all threads asking these same questions will get the same responses. When the plans are final they will be announced! :)
Go play! Enjoy the game now and later! :)
NCNA staff did PTS they tested all classes all quests, and found bugs, thats is what a pts is for... ty for not let us test it too.
You were asking for updated Lineage2 page - you got it!
Main page not updated. To create new promo page and make redirect dont mean update. Add "index.html" and you will see same old not updated page
You were asking for Patch notes - I saw them 3-4 moths ago!
I find translation from Korean PTS more than 6 month ago but still where is our patch notes? Will we get item to change main class? Will be get item to change dualclass? And 100500 more question exist w\o answer.
It's funny to see all these posts and not a single word from NC Soft West after they released that announcement. I would love if Blizzard will someday buy L2 and show you people (from NC Soft West) how costumer support it's supposed to be done.
OK they prolly cant give us the PTS at the launch of Godes of Destruction now.
That's a hard fact, no going arround that now...
But, Like Laby suggested already...
Give us a PTS after, there's a lot at stake for manny people who wanted to FIRST try out a new class , try out there actual class , see skills to see if description actually lives up to what it promises to be.
Unless u can test a skill in a live situation u can't know .
There is to much blanc and unknowns to just throw away 7 years of working on our chars.
Because that will happen for me, i'm really on the verge of quitting.
If i got to take a new class , and i realize its nothing like what i wanted it to be or it doesnt fit in the group, then i'm going to be so disspointed , again.. that i wont bother no more.
It's funny to see all these posts and not a single word from NC Soft West after they released that announcement. I would love if Blizzard will someday buy L2 and show you people (from NC Soft West) how costumer support it's supposed to be done.
I know that, yet Blizzard still have a lot better costumer support and listens to it's costumers even if sometimes it's not the best for the company's income.
If I don't get what I am demanding now I am going to quit and take my ball home with me!
My advice would be to save wasting your precious time, since I already typed it for you, just quit without posting your ultimatum. This will show everyone you're a person of fortitude and no game is going to get the best of you!
Wait a minute, if you could handle any little obstacle in a virtual environment there wouldn't be all these doom and gloom posts threatening pulling the plug if you can't have it your way. It is just a game, you can play for free now, you can have fun learning new classes or keep playing your old character or enjoy the adventure of the unknown.
FORTITUDE
Strength of mind that enables a person to encounter danger or bear pain or adversity with courage.
As many of you have noticed, we have been pretty busy in past weeks and unfortunately we haven’t been able to post any update about the PTS. Due to the release of Truly Free and other technical considerations, we will not have a Goddess of Destruction PTS. We sincerely apologize to all of you who have been waiting an update on this topic, and thank you for your understanding.
Great things are coming to Lineage II, and we hope you are all as excited as we are about the Goddess of Destruction and Truly Free live launch date on November 30!
@ Nip's friend & Krissa
You go into too deep details.
Look at high level perspective.
+ page updated!
+ Patch notes exists!
+ GOD is coming!
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- Sir, we want report all is done!
However we ignored test of software as it was already tested dozen times!
- Np, son!
Good work, finally someone who do work as should not looking for some cheap excuses!
Main page not updated, databases not updated (check skills section for example), castle controll ... no comments.
Patch notes for Korean server? Thanks, I will use them when deside to play on Korean server. But still I dont see NCW patch notes ...
At least I want to know about item for main class change and items for sub changes.
Test was done? By NC team? How much ppl they have to test? 5? Or maybe 10? "Out" PTS used to test localization done by NCW. So how do you want to check it using RU/KR PTS?
As many of you have noticed, we have been pretty busy in past weeks and unfortunately we haven’t been able to post any update about the PTS. Due to the release of Truly Free and other technical considerations, we will not have a Goddess of Destruction PTS. We sincerely apologize to all of you who have been waiting an update on this topic, and thank you for your understanding.
Great things are coming to Lineage II, and we hope you are all as excited as we are about the Goddess of Destruction and Truly Free live launch date on November 30!
Seriously? No reply to customers? ... Wait, they wont pay any longer. We can screw them. ... Wait we screwed them even when they were actually paying customers...
I think they should just do it like the korea did. import the current server setting and let us test the PTS on the charters we have. let is see how the new changes will change our toons. i have a 85 dread nought i want to awaken as a tank and i want to switch my 79 tank to a dread nought. the patch notes say you can not switch your sub with a simler class. i want to find out if and can make these changes and in what order i need to make them in. Do i have to awaken first as a tank then change my sub classes, or change my subs then awaken. instead of the spending the time trying to find answers for everyones questions, take that time and get the PTS up and import the charters so we can find some of the answers for ourselfs.
I know that, yet Blizzard still have a lot better costumer support and listens to it's costumers even if sometimes it's not the best for the company's income.
You have to remember though, Blizzards target customer is a 12 year old. If they dont get what they want right away they throw tantrums. So their support HAS to be faster in responding. :D
You have to remember though, Blizzards target customer is a 12 year old. If they dont get what they want right away they throw tantrums. So their support HAS to be faster in responding. :D
You probably couldn't be more wrong. Not that I like WoW but just because you are wrong :)
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