I am awake. What skills will I get? What are the skills I have lost?
Stigma, DoD, etc. Rare are very interested. Table of all 30 + classes - better.
I know Awakening Skills + Race Skills. But I don't know my skills after Awakening before learn the new.
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Sparse (http://boards.lineage2.com/member.php?u=156009)
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When a character awakens all of your current skill set is removed (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?p=3099632#post3099632)
Your skills set are actually reset to a pre-determined set of skills made of 2nd and 3rd class skills appropriate to your pre-awakened class. (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?p=3099645#post3099645)
Skills learned by forgotten books are not transferred into awakening.
You cannot learn Forgotten scrolls when you are awakened.
Your skills are reset only after awakening. So if change from Titan to Yul Archer you are now a Yul Archer with 2nd/3rd class archer skills. (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?p=3099656#post3099656)
If you are doing a Class Switch the awaken skill set will be default to a human class.
So for those classes mentioned, there are multiple warrior, wizard and Knight. The skill sets will default to the following:
Tyrr Warrior -> Duelist
Feoh Wizard -> Archmage
Sigel Knight -> Phoenix Knight
2nd and 3rd job skills still use Lesser Giant's Codex for enchanting(even after awakening).
Race skills follow you to every class.
If you awaken to the same class type as one of your subclass, you cannot Dual Class using that subclass anymore. The NPC which lets you take the Split Destiny quest says "You cannot expand the power to the same class as your main class.
Once you have learned all of the 4th class skills there will be (in most cases) no skills left from the previous 3rd and 2nd job skill. (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?p=3099959#post3099959)
All Characters created in the GoD update can awaken.
Not All characters created in GoD will receive the item (Stone of Destiny/Fate) required to change route during awakening. (as stated before, this will depend on meeting a specific level requirement.)
If you do not posses the Stone of Destiny/Fate, you can only awaken to the same class type as your 3rd class. (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?p=3100004#post3100004)
you get a bunch of skills straight away, these will remove the skills that have the same effect in your existing skill set (and refund your enchants).
most of it is written down if you care to do a little digging, however the recorded bits of information are accurate in other territories it may not be entirely true when we get our update on the 30th, so take it with a grain of salt.
Need more Info about skills after awakening. %(
For example:
"Before learn awakening skills, you obtain basis skills *** of your class. But...
1. Shilen Templar lose: all Cubics, Pain of Shilen, ***, *** ...
2. Shilen Saints lose: Stigma of Shilen, ***, *** ...
3. ....
******
etc.
Jump on the line, as many have been asking for this for a while (myself included).
The best thing we have now is ChildOfHeaven Handmade list (in chinese) or some comparisons you would have to do by yourself.
The only certain answers I can give you are: All Pomander Skills and all FS skills are gone.
Also, once you get all your skills for level 85, only a few will last to get after that level. Look at these and go find which skills they remove.
You can find ChildOfHeaven list as well as other links in my FAQ. Don't be lazy and read it, it shall clear your mind better before you do your own research...
I may build a list of skills that will be kept later between 85 and 99, but that will be shallow and I don't have time to do that just now... Maybe later this week...
:confused:
Better ofc - official NCWest note. ^^ It is critical question. Maybe i don't will awakening before till 90 lvl... or 95 lvl....
You will be able to awake all 32 classes before you see NCSoft West provide ANYTHING like that... Nowadays, either you trust in your fellow players and foreign links or you get to check those things by yourself... And you won't have PTS to do that too...
EDIT: I would like to see you leveling until 90 or 95 w/o leeching...
Copying an existing database of players on server PTS - better way.
New players will go on a normal server, because on the test server, they will receive the first level toons. Existing players will get a chance to test.
Hey NC, maybe do it? ^^
Goblin Lord say to you it is easy...
You will be able to awake all 32 classes before you see NCSoft West provide ANYTHING like that... Nowadays, either you trust in your fellow players and foreign links or you get to check those things by yourself... And you won't have PTS to do that too...
EDIT: I would like to see you leveling until 90 or 95 w/o leeching...
Maybe my skills for party (w/o awakening) be better & exp gain be more, then i do leveling with leeching? ^^
seems they remove anything that doesn't fit in with your character type.
like mortal strike for an archer.
and apparently single target soul shield for dominators...
i like that skill, i use it in olympiad, and to cast mental shield on my party.
and weapon mastery for orc mystics... so i guess i can scratch mana leach as i know it.
probably lose shadow step, and song of windstorm.
why take away great skills like onslaught of paagrio, pain of shillen and that nifty Eva saint ability to fill mana all the way.
yet let archers keep multiple shot.
meh, all these skills will be eaten up by new ones shortly anyway.
So wait a minute what are these "Rhythm" skills that are mixed in with my regular skills? (Critical, Magic, Fighter, Revenge ect..) Are they new ones that I get right at awakening?
So wait a minute what are these "Rhythm" skills that are mixed in with my regular skills? (Critical, Magic, Fighter, Revenge ect..) Are they new ones that I get right at awakening?
Those are the new combo songs/dances both BD and SWS get at lower levels (to compensate for the 7 man party limit, so that you do not need both bd and sws in the party).
Still waiting for SD info ;) Although I guess it's pretty obvious from seeing SWM info what SD will be like...
So wait a minute what are these "Rhythm" skills that are mixed in with my regular skills? (Critical, Magic, Fighter, Revenge ect..) Are they new ones that I get right at awakening?
Those skills are for pre-awakening sword singer and blade dancer. They are essentially combo dance/song skills.
Those are the new combo songs/dances both BD and SWS get at lower levels (to compensate for the 7 man party limit, so that you do not need both bd and sws in the party).
First ty for your time and doing a great job Sparse.
For ex:I am a dagger and will awaken into a tank.After I awaken to a tank with using that destiny thingy I ll automaticly get plaladin skills I think.But the question is what will happen to my enchanted skills?Will I get giant codexes(I dont know what they are called) for 4th class for all my enchanted skills?
First ty for your time and doing a great job Sparse.
For ex:I am a dagger and will awaken into a tank.After I awaken to a tank with using that destiny thingy I ll automaticly get plaladin skills I think.But the question is what will happen to my enchanted skills?Will I get giant codexes(I dont know what they are called) for 4th class for all my enchanted skills?
you'll get a refund, this has been discussed before.
oho, i have one question, if that archer elf want to awaken into dagger with the "stone" that u ll gave to us, that bow skill the he obtain with FS will remain or will vanish?
oho, i have one question, if that archer elf want to awaken into dagger with the "stone" that u ll gave to us, that bow skill the he obtain with FS will remain or will vanish?
The skills you get immediately after awakening (i.e. the screenshots in this thread) are FIXED, i.e. that's all you get. You lose everything you have and just get these skills in the screenshot. So if you are an archer awakening into a dagger, you lose ALL your skills (including any FS you might have learned) and get only the dagger skills in these screenshots (in this case, the adventurer skills, since you get the human dagger skills if you switch to awakened dagger from archer).
I'll try and get the rest of these up through the week. For the rest of today I have some other work now :).
I have a great idea Sparse!! To save you the trouble of doing all this work of screenshotting, why dont you just let us all log in to the test server you are using for it? :D
The skills you get immediately after awakening (i.e. the screenshots in this thread) are FIXED, i.e. that's all you get. You lose everything you have and just get these skills in the screenshot. So if you are an archer awakening into a dagger, you lose ALL your skills (including any FS you might have learned) and get only the dagger skills in these screenshots (in this case, the adventurer skills, since you get the human dagger skills if you switch to awakened dagger from archer).
the skills on screen shot are the skills u loose when u awaken. its that why i make my question.
oho, i have one question, if that archer elf want to awaken into dagger with the "stone" that u ll gave to us, that bow skill the he obtain with FS will remain or will vanish?
if you are referring to the level 82 skills (protection of rune/alignment) and the sword/bow skills learned by forgotten scroll - they arent on any of the "lost skills" lists, so i doubt you lose them.
after all, admin already told you all the skills you lose (regardless if you learned them or not) perhaps a bit of exercise of the mind is in order - you know read between the lines.
its not on the list - I GUESS YOU DONT LOSE IT EH?????
as far as i know.
these are the skills you will have, not gain, not lose... Have.
after you awaken.
all of these skills will be +0 with max enchant of +10.
meaning you will loose all skills not on this list.
if this is not the case, i am sorry.
if it is the case, be ready to lose everything you hold precious.
as far as i know.
these are the skills you will have, not gain, not lose... Have.
after you awaken.
all of these skills will be +0 with max enchant of +10.
meaning you will loose all skills not on this list.
if this is not the case, i am sorry.
if it is the case, be ready to lose everything you hold precious.
Yes, this is correct. You will lose all skills you have now and get exactly these skills on the screenshots, nothing more, nothing less. For example, even if you have not bought "Sigil Mastery" yet on your elemental master, you will have that particular skill after awakening, because it is on the screenshots posted above. And then you can either use these skills or buy the new awakening skills and thereby turn in some of these skills each time.
I dont have any idea how we can use this screenshots. We need list of new skills with information what old skills they replace. Some players want to keep some old skills like for example mage (mm/sorc) replace arcana shield + reflect buff for new arcana shield. Yes, new mana shield take less % of mp on damage and have 10% reflect but only for short time. And if new reflect mechanic allow to reflect not only melee damage but also range damage and skills - it can be good idea to keep this buff in 4-th class.
But it's not 100% clear if old skills will work at all. Like kamaels want to keep soul cleance and soul barrier. Second one I think will work but first one - not. For example MM/Sorc will replace cancel only at 97 lvl but in GoD cancel almost dont work - it dont cancel any of new buffs and even old buffs (like nobless) have low chance to cancel. I cast 50 cancels to target with new buffs + nobless. 4 times (omg) nobless was canceled but new buffs was not affected by cancel at all.
if you are referring to the level 82 skills (protection of rune/alignment) and the sword/bow skills learned by forgotten scroll - they arent on any of the "lost skills" lists, so i doubt you lose them.
In the FAQ it's already mentioned that the rune/alignment/elemental skills will be gone once you awaken.
Just read Luxiel's FAQ or the official one.
(BIG THX to Sparse for the great work and the huge amount of info's we are waiting for soo long now from others)
Sparse you can do it with Hell Knight and Arcana Lord too?:D
PS:But the skills from Forgotten Scrolls(such as Insane Crusher,Pain of Shilen,Final Secret and so on) will remain after awakening?Because I don't see them in the skill list :/.
the skills on screen shot are the skills u loose when u awaken. its that why i make my question.
i ll waiting for the adms awnser.
The skills in the pictures are KEPT. Check the Sparse's posts on the first 2 pages :)
Also, Sparse already said that no FS skill will be staying at all...
@ Sparse
Thank you very much! As soon as I have enough time, I'll filter those pictures and make links to them in my FAQ.
Can I ask for Cardinal's skills? :)
EDIT: Though I could make it clear to everyone: When you Awake you lose ALL your skills and then you gain a specific Set of Skills, which will be traded later on. These pictures Sparse is posting are this Set of Skill you gain, AFTER you lose your former skills. Basically, they leave almost only with skills that will be replaced by some Awakening Skill. Also, the skills in the picture are learned at their max level.
My question is simple.
If you change from warcryer to adore healer do you get the 7 items needed to learn skill from other healer classes?
No. Pomanders aren't bound to Aeore Healer class. They are given to Cardinals, Eva's Saints or Shillen Saints when they finish their 3rd Class Change, at level 76.
Pomanders have nothing to do with the Awakening. Also, any skill learned with Pomanders will be removed.
The skills in the pictures are KEPT. Check the Sparse's posts on the first 2 pages :)
Also, Sparse already said that no FS skill will be staying at all...
@ Sparse
Thank you very much! As soon as I have enough time, I'll filter those pictures and make links to them in my FAQ.
Can I ask for Cardinal's skills? :)
EDIT: Though I could make it clear to everyone: When you Awake you lose ALL your skills and then you gain a specific Set of Skills, which will be traded later on. These pictures Sparse is posting are this Set of Skill you gain, AFTER you lose your former skills. Basically, they leave almost only with skills that will be replaced by some Awakening Skill. Also, the skills in the picture are learned at their max level.
check the text box: "the powers that must be maintained UNTIL you receive my power are as follow"
please guyz, if u dont know the awnser, dont awnser.
ADMS PLEASE, A LITTLE HELP HERE.
You are missing the logic of the Awakening.
First you lose ALL your skills.
Giants want you to learn their powers, but you just can't learn everything at once.
Because of that, they provide a Set of Skills for you to keep UNTIL you LEARN their power (a.k.a. Awakening skills)
So you awake with that set of skills which you will trade for Giants powers later.
If you still don't trust or understand me, refer to these posts by Sparse:
If you are qualified to Awaken you can actually preview which skills are retained by an NPC dialog before confirming the awakening.
Mystic Muse? ty ty!
Are these the lists of skills lost? or kept?
These are what skills are set upon awakening. When you learn the new 4th class skills, you will trade these skills in.
In case you are still lost, to Awake as itself ISN'T receiving the Giant's Power. Learning Awakening Skills IS. Awakening is just receiving access to them. That's what the TextBox meant.
It is confusing, I know... Koreans/Translators... :rolleyes:
Sparse, do Mages lose Spellcraft (Increases Casting Speed When Wearing a Robe)?
If they do, keeping the Light Armor Mastery, which Increases 91% Casting Speed (not learning the Superior Armor Mastery), would take the Casting speed higher, since the new mastery don't have Casting speed bonus...
Sparse, do Mages lose Spellcraft (Increases Casting Speed When Wearing a Robe)?
If they do, keeping the Light Armor Mastery, which Increases 91% Casting Speed (not learning the Superior Armor Mastery), would take the Casting speed higher, since the new mastery don't have Casting speed bonus...
Spell craft is not included when you are awakened.
Hello Sparse + Community. Thanks for the extra effort you're putting into this!
I've got a quick question related to Main + SubClass awakening.
My scenario is as follows:
- My main is an 85 BD
- My sub is a 74 SpellHowler
I would like to Awaken my BD to a Wizard when I awaken
I would like to change my SpellHowler to a Healer using the SubClass change stone
So my questions are:
1) Is this possible?
2) If it is possible, will I need to change my SubClass to a Healer before I awaken my BD into a Wizard? (since my Sub is of the Wizard tree)
3) When I do my 3rd class change, am I given gear (common or what-not) of the type of class I'm changing to? If so, is a weapon included? Does the gear have set bonuses?
4) Is gear given when a character Awakens for their 4th class change? If so, what sort of gear? Is it common? Set bonuses? Weapon? Enchantable?
Thanks again for the hard work and dedication to providing the community with information everyone :)
PS:The skill learned through forgotten scrolls (such as final secret,pain of shilen and so on) will remain after awakening or not?I don't see them in the previous skills list
2) If it is possible, will I need to change my SubClass to a Healer before I awaken my BD into a Wizard? (since my Sub is of the Wizard tree)
No, but you need to change it to healer some time so it can Awake as healer.
3) When I do my 3rd class change, am I given gear (common or what-not) of the type of class I'm changing to? If so, is a weapon included? Does the gear have set bonuses?
No information on Exploration Packs or Awakening Quests just yet.
4) Is gear given when a character Awakens for their 4th class change? If so, what sort of gear? Is it common? Set bonuses? Weapon? Enchantable?
PS:The skill learned through forgotten scrolls (such as final secret,pain of shilen and so on) will remain after awakening or not?I don't see them in the previous skills list
Sparse already answered to that. FS skills are gone.
Also, if anything isn't there it means it is gone.
Sparse, do Mages lose Spellcraft (Increases Casting Speed When Wearing a Robe)?
If they do, keeping the Light Armor Mastery, which Increases 91% Casting Speed (not learning the Superior Armor Mastery), would take the Casting speed higher, since the new mastery don't have Casting speed bonus...
That's how it works on Innova's Russian servers. Actually, many awakened healers refuse to learn the new armor mastery because of this.
About question #2, I know that you can't Awaken your main into a class type that you already have a subclass of, right? In my scenario, my subclass is the type that I want to Awaken my main into, therefore, wouldn't I need to change my subclass using a stone first before Awakening my main into a Wizard?
About question #2, I know that you can't Awaken your main into a class type that you already have a subclass of, right? In my scenario, my subclass is the type that I want to Awaken my main into, therefore, wouldn't I need to change my subclass using a stone first before Awakening my main into a Wizard?
Sparse already answered that. No problem to awake if you have a sub of the Awaken class, but the sub won't be able to awake unless you change it to another class...
Also, my english sucks and u just give confusing answers like "this is the skills that u trade" or double negative "these are not the skills that u wont loose before you awake" etc xD. Is confusing. This skills are maintained after u awake? Or when u awake u loose this skills?
PS:The skill learned through forgotten scrolls (such as final secret,pain of shilen and so on) will remain after awakening or not?I don't see them in the previous skills list
If the skill is not on those list, they do not exist on the character after awakening.
Also, my english sucks and u just give confusing answers like "this is the skills that u trade" or double negative "these are not the skills that u wont loose before you awake" etc xD. Is confusing. This skills are maintained after u awake? Or when u awake u loose this skills?
ty
When you awake, you keep those skills.
Then, as you learn your new 4th class skills, you lose those skills.
Also, my english sucks and u just give confusing answers like "this is the skills that u trade" or double negative "these are not the skills that u wont loose before you awake" etc xD. Is confusing. This skills are maintained after u awake? Or when u awake u loose this skills?
ty
Neither. 2 things happen when you Awake.
First you lose EVERY SINGLE SKILL. You will have none, zero, nada, null.
Second you learn the skills sets Sparse is posting. If you didn't had one skill before, you will still learn it, if it is listed there.
After that, every time you learn a Awakening Skill, it will remove some skills from that set.
Please Fortune Seeker.....Also I am planning to switch my sub to Cardinal in GoD and was wondering if the pomanders are auto given although I would be 78 already when I switch.
Since when do Eva's Saints have Greater Battle Heal?
Since GoD. And the max level of Resurrection too.
Besides, the old resurrection has a better reuse time than a new one. So, if you care about survivability of the party more than you care about the exp restored, you will keep the old rez.
First you lose EVERY SINGLE SKILL. You will have none, zero, nada, null.
Second you learn the skills sets Sparse is posting. If you didn't had one skill before, you will still learn it, if it is listed there.
After that, every time you learn a Awakening Skill, it will remove some skills from that set.
One point to add is this is a seamless transition. The skills being removed and reset to these list happens at the same time as your awaken.
Anyway, will i loose every of those skills in the set while im taking the awakening skills? or there are some specific skills that ill loose and ill keep some (Of the set of skills u are given after awake)?... I mean, will i loose the blows and maybe ill keep critical chance skills, even if i take every skill of the awakening process.
...Also I am planning to switch my sub to Cardinal in GoD and was wondering if the pomanders are auto given although I would be 78 already when I switch.
why do healers get to keep armor masteries while dominators don't?
i know it's said and done.
i know that enchanters get armor masteries after awakening with new gained skills... just curious why they lose em?
Transfer skills are learned the same as they are now (you just have the option to learn more skills because all the healers get more Pomanders.) When you awaken, pomanders are no longer part of the Aeore Healer class.
Anyway, will i loose every of those skills in the set while im taking the awakening skills? or there are some specific skills that ill loose and ill keep some (Of the set of skills u are given after awake)?... I mean, will i loose the blows and maybe ill keep critical chance skills, even if i take every skill of the awakening process.
And please post Adventurer and Ghost hunter :D
For 3rd class daggers, I do not see any skills that are carried over into awakening to Othell Rogue (after all 4th job skills are learned).
I can't see on any of the healer/buffer skill list Holy Weapon. Is this skill completely removed from game or just after awakening? Is it possible for Bladedancers to keep Dance of Light?
If so, can an awakened character be buffed with those two buffs up to +40 holy element on weapon?
Look at any class, there are skills learned after 86+...
Also, you must learn manually them, they aren't instantly learned.
i know, i'm sorry i tend to overuse the question mark, those were meant as statements with hope to receive a nod as confirmation.
just a followup to Sparses previous statement about skills remaining after awakening.
For 3rd class daggers, I do not see any skills that are carried over into awakening to Othell Rogue (after all 4th job skills are learned).
Funny at soultaker to keep transfer pain, and no any summons.
that is funny.
although useful if you happen to have a high level pet.
pet max level will be 99.
I've seen people using it on GoD videos
Not sure if they used a 3rd class char to buff it or if it was from Iss Enchanter
I have to double check on this, but I believe this is explained by a new Proc skill that shares the same buff icon. Test server is under maintenance for a while, so i'm not able to check on stuff for some time today.
I have to double check on this, but I believe this is explained by a new Proc skill that shares the same buff icon. Test server is under maintenance for a while, so i'm not able to check on stuff for some time today.
enchanter new buffs give counter critical at 85lv, after it triggers it is same old CC icon on trigger skill row
enchanter new buffs give counter critical at 85lv, after it triggers it is same old CC icon on trigger skill row
Drum Melody: Increases Max MP, HP Recovery bonus, M. Critical Rate, and Critical Damage during normal attacks, and increases P. Atk., P. Def., Atk. Spd., M. Atk., M. Def., Casting Spd., debuff resistance, and P. Def. upon evading a Critical Attack. Also reduces Spd. When a party member who receives damage is equipped with a melee weapon, bow or crossbow, that party member's Critical Damage during normal attacks may increase.
Sorry i should have read more closely, the CC buff is fused in the Drum Melody Buff
Drum Melody: Increases Max MP, HP Recovery bonus, M. Critical Rate, and Critical Damage during normal attacks, and increases P. Atk., P. Def., Atk. Spd., M. Atk., M. Def., Casting Spd., debuff resistance, and P. Def. upon evading a Critical Attack. Also reduces Spd. When a party member who receives damage is equipped with a melee weapon, bow or crossbow, that party member's Critical Damage during normal attacks may increase.
Sorry i should have read more closely, the CC buff is fused in the Drum Melody Buff
A. The picture means that when i awaken my character will retain the skills shown above, and afterwards i will be able to choose which of these i want to trade for the new Feoh Wizard's skill?
B. Will i be able to keep some of the above for ever, and not trade for the Feoh Wizard's skill at all? (if yes i want to see a trade table, of old skills to awaken ones)
A. The picture means that when i awaken my character will retain the skills shown above, and afterwards i will be able to choose which of these i want to trade for the new Feoh Wizard's skill?
B. Will i be able to keep some of the above for ever, and not trade for the Feoh Wizard's skill at all? (if yes i want to see a trade table, of old skills to awaken ones)
A. Yes these are skill you get when you awaken for each class and are what are eventually traded in.
B. You do not have to trade in any skills. But you may find your character at a disadvantage for every 4th class skill you do not learn.
When you have learned all of the awaken skills, your 2nd and 3rd class skills are no longer part of the awakened class. (except for Overlord clan buffs and Summoner pets.)
Originally Posted by ShadoWave
Drum Melody: Increases Max MP, HP Recovery bonus, M. Critical Rate, and Critical Damage during normal attacks, and increases P. Atk., P. Def., Atk. Spd., M. Atk., M. Def., Casting Spd., debuff resistance, and P. Def. upon evading a Critical Attack. Also reduces Spd. When a party member who receives damage is equipped with a melee weapon, bow or crossbow, that party member's Critical Damage during normal attacks may increase.
Sorry i should have read more closely, the CC buff is fused in the Drum Melody Buff
Yup that's exactly right :).
OK, does it stack? I read on this forum somewhere that you still keep the old CC buff? When the PTS comes back up for you can you post the skills please.
A. Yes these are skill you get when you awaken for each class and are what are eventually traded in.
B. You do not have to trade in any skills. But you may find your character at a disadvantage for every 4th class skill you do not learn.
When you have learned all of the awaken skills, your 2nd and 3rd class skills are no longer part of the awakened class. (except for Overlord clan buffs and Summoner pets.)
if i dont learn all awaken skills, i ll keep my old skills?
if i dont learn all awaken skills, i ll keep my old skills?
That's what Sparse tried to tell us in the Answer B.
He used "have" in the meaning of "must".
As saying that one is not required to trade all skills, but one will find oneself in trouble against those who did trade it.
You have the skill set. Only learning new skills removes old skills from it.
if i dont learn all awaken skills, i ll keep my old skills?
If you do not learn any awakening skills at all after doing the awakening quest, you will keep exactly those skills you see in those screenshots, and they are all at +0 (unless you OE them again after doing the awakening quest).
If you learn awakening skills, each awakening skill takes away one or more of these old skills (there are no official list which skill takes away which old skills here on this board, but there are some in the Korean Powerwiki).
what will happen to the dyes that we had applied before the awake process?(since i heard that the good ones will cost 1bill and more..)
the summons will consume soul as ussual?
what will happen to the dyes that we had applied before the awake process?(since i heard that the good ones will cost 1bill and more..)
the summons will consume soul as ussual?
Tattoos are disabled when you awaken, similar to when you change from 1st to 2nd job. You can remove the old dye from a Symbol Maker still. When you awaken you can then use the new Dyes.
Tattoos are disabled when you awaken, similar to when you change from 1st to 2nd job. You can remove the old dye from a Symbol Maker still. When you awaken you can then use the new Dyes.
now i imagine what you mean is...
tattoos will be removed on awakening.
so before you awaken, you can remove your tattoos, and it is suggested.
but...
the part i am curious about now.
is must you use R grade tattoos after awakening?
or can you reuse the old ones?
because i assume you can only use R grade tattoos.
but if R grade are special in that you can increase more than +5, it wouldn't be so bad if you could use old ones too.
now i imagine what you mean is...
tattoos will be removed on awakening.
so before you awaken, you can remove your tattoos, and it is suggested.
but...
the part i am curious about now.
is must you use R grade tattoos after awakening?
or can you reuse the old ones?
because i assume you can only use R grade tattoos.
but if R grade are special in that you can increase more than +5, it wouldn't be so bad if you could use old ones too.
Tatoos are not deleted when you awaken, they are simply grayed out / disabled (this is same functionality as when you change from 1st to 2nd job with any lesser tattoo equipped.) You can only equip the new R-Grade Tattoos after awakening.
Tatoos are not deleted when you awaken, they are simply grayed out / disabled (this is same functionality as when you change from 1st to 2nd job with any lesser tattoo equipped.) You can only equip the new R-Grade Tattoos after awakening.
aha.
been so long since i used the lesser dyes.
Could Doomcryer, Eva's Saint, Hierophant, Shilien's Saint, Dominator and some other classes could use Forgotten Scrolls like Improve Condition, Improve Movement & so on after awakening or it's disabled like 81/82/83 forgotten scrolls ?
Oh by the way, I really like the "Server Transfer, Quest related, UI, Forced Petition button". I hope to get them after awakening too ;) I try to do alt-g since months but I never work for me :(
Could Doomcryer, Eva's Saint, Hierophant, Shilien's Saint, Dominator and some other classes could use Forgotten Scrolls like Improve Condition, Improve Movement & so on after awakening or it's disabled like 81/82/83 forgotten scrolls ?
You cannot learn Forgotten scrolls when you are awakened.
So the major thing that I'm confused on is what happens to people who don't choose the class they're supposed to go?
For example, a shillien saint goes into a Archer, do they still then have major heal and buffs or does it change assuming they were one of the 4 archer classes?
So the major thing that I'm confused on is what happens to people who don't choose the class they're supposed to go?
For example, a shillien saint goes into a Archer, do they still then have major heal and buffs or does it change assuming they were one of the 4 archer classes?
So the major thing that I'm confused on is what happens to people who don't choose the class they're supposed to go?
For example, a shillien saint goes into a Archer, do they still then have major heal and buffs or does it change assuming they were one of the 4 archer classes?
If you change into a class which is different from what you would have awakened to, you get the skills of the human class of that type. I.e. if you are a shillien saint and awaken into an archer, you lose ALL your previous skills (absolutely everything) and get the skills a human archer (sagittarius) would get (and in this case, DE fighter stats).
erm so why do all enchanter classes lose their armor passives and do all healers etc. get to keep theirs ?
enchanters to strong that they're not allowed to have the same bonus of the "bug" with light armor with regards to cast speed ?
just curious as this is a hidden nerf for all SwM & SD's as their old hvy armor passive gave also crit dam reduction bonus which doesn't exist on the "new" one..
and really I can imagine all pp/dc/ol/judi's would have loved to have max cast speed by just wearing light armor and not needing any acumen weapons..
Final Ultimate Evasion: Increases Evasion, physical attack skill Evasion Rate, and debuff resistance for a period of time. When you take damage, the enemy's targeting may be canceled.
This is actually the Othell Rogue Final Ultimate Evasion description. She just ctrl+c and ctrl+v it.
and really I can imagine all pp/dc/ol/judi's would have loved to have max cast speed by just wearing light armor and not needing any acumen weapons..
dont think they really need to maximize cast speed. only heal may be demands better c. speed, all other go pretty fast
Check for question "Q: And what happen with my skills if I transfer to a class that I wasn't meant to?"
Now I feel like my FAQ is useful! Even the GM read it... :D
dont think they really need to maximize cast speed. only heal may be demands better c. speed, all other go pretty fast
+1 to this. I also find unfair to not have old armor masteries on Enchanters (I'll dual enchanter), but I guess they don't really need... I mean, it is not like a fast buff-time would save lives...
@ Sparse
For all your work I award you a Pony Seal of Approval:
Okay so.... we loose all that skills just to gain the awakening class skills?
So it'll literally be like... Tyrr warrior will replace Warlord, Duelist, Titan, Avatar, Master and Punisher?
So one class replaces several others?
So in real endgame will only be the 8 new classes left? Doesn't that freaking suck? I mean wtf what's with the other classes we all love and care about? They 're just poof gone? The skills too? No TSS etc on lvl 99 anymore? Once I learned these other new skills?
Isn't that kind of stupid? I mean I like GoD but..... imo thats a change i really dislike. IF what i said is TRUE.
Thats.... isnt that a freaking waste? I mean how can they just remove them lol......
does that not upset anyone but me? Imo the variety drops significantly..
My question might be out of topic, but I want to ask and be sure about 1 thing.
If I am dark elf dagger class and during awakening I change my class into warrior, will my race remain dark elf? I wouldn't want become human or other race.
Please answer who are sure 100% :)
Just so Im understanding correctly. Protection, element, and rune are removed after awekening also? Im pretty sure the question has been answered a few times. Just making sure I understand.
so WTF happenes with Hierophants Counter crit and adv mirage ?
Counter Critical will be integrated (don't know a correct word :)) in the Poem of Drum. So if you have the Poem of Drum and get damage you can see this trigger sometimes.
I have read all the thread and i didn't find my answer.
So ... my question is about Moonlight Sentinel_Sagittarius and awakening.
I have seen that MS doesnt loose " critical chance " passive after awakening.
So, Sagittarius will still have Critical Chance and Critical Power after awakening ?
In other words, Sagittarius will still hit harder than moonlight sentinel ?
For 3rd class daggers, I do not see any skills that are carried over into awakening to Othell Rogue (after all 4th job skills are learned).
This is all what i was looking for, finally. But I have some doubts Sparse.
Could it be that that passives like boost atk speed, boost evasion, sting, Hex, Power Break, freezing strike will remain also after all 4th job skills are learned? I ask this because I don't see any skill, among the Othell Rogue's Awakening skills, which could be replaced with those i named just before.
Transfer skills are learned the same as they are now (you just have the option to learn more skills because all the healers get more Pomanders.) When you awaken, pomanders are no longer part of the Aeore Healer class.
Sparse excuse me for asking for more clarification but what i really want to know is that if I switch my subclass Sword Muse LvL 78 to Cardinal Lvl 78 I will be able to obtain 7 Pomanders so I will be able to learn all the 7 skill transfers? I know these will go in awakening as a Dual class Aoere Healer at 85 but just want to check I get them till then on switching sub class.
I have read all the thread and i didn't find my answer.
So ... my question is about Moonlight Sentinel_Sagittarius and awakening.
I have seen that MS doesnt loose " critical chance " passive after awakening.
So, Sagittarius will still have Critical Chance and Critical Power after awakening ?
In other words, Sagittarius will still hit harder than moonlight sentinel ?
Classes will lose all skills from before lvl 35-36.
Sparse will Dark elf tank lose spirit of shillen and pain of shillen after the awakening?
tks very much
yes, check the pictures he posted for your class if it doesn't show the icon it's gone upon awakening.. but awaken tank will get new skills so even if you would have kept it you would lose it upon learning the new skills..
In the same way 1 summoner can make 3 panthers while the other 2 cat king + 1 cat queen (buff) ?
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Or 3 boxer for recharge ?
No, old summons are still limited to 1 summon out at one time.
Only new summons can be taken out at the same time up to the maximum summon points available.
On the topic of awakening, anyone knows if you can just "awaken" some of your skills and keep the rest?
Say you have a +30 debuff/nuke/whatever and you rather keep that specific one than turn it in together with x more spells/skills for 1 awakening skill?
Would it be possible to keep specific skills and turn them in later at say level 90?
On the topic of awakening, anyone knows if you can just "awaken" some of your skills and keep the rest?
Say you have a +30 debuff/nuke/whatever and you rather keep that specific one than turn it in together with x more spells/skills for 1 awakening skill?
Would it be possible to keep specific skills and turn them in later at say level 90?
Your ++'s to skills all get nuked and you get given new items towards the new books instead. So all old skills even if you keep them will be back to +0.
Your ++'s to skills all get nuked and you get given new items towards the new books instead. So all old skills even if you keep them will be back to +0.
But you will have the option of keeping the old skills until you turn them in for awakening skills? Say I just turn in half of my skills for awakening, and the rest I keep until level 90 or w/e, would that be possible?
But you will have the option of keeping the old skills until you turn them in for awakening skills? Say I just turn in half of my skills for awakening, and the rest I keep until level 90 or w/e, would that be possible?
Yep you can refuse to upgrade all of your skills (assuming you are not changing main class type of course) if you like - is all up to you!
But you will have the option of keeping the old skills until you turn them in for awakening skills? Say I just turn in half of my skills for awakening, and the rest I keep until level 90 or w/e, would that be possible?
Yes, and you will do it when the old skills are better than the new ones (it happens, although rarely).
What happens to initial (1st job) passive skills such as Magician's Movement, Spellcraft, Mana Recovery for magues? And Boost Attack Speed, Acrobatics, Critical Power and Chance for Rogues?
They are deleted. Which causes funny stuff, for example, for healers that decided to keep their old Light Armor mastery and not learn the new awakened armor mastery (they cast faster in light than in robes).
Thank you Krissa. I bet developers did not take that in mind :p
And as for archers/daggers... then finally developers took off some extra skills from humans that in my opinion should never have had: passive boost attack speed and both critical passives: chance AND power (instead of just one of them like both elves).
And also, now humans do not have that extra 6 stat points compared to the rest of the races... they are all equal now.
So if someone can explain me cos iam getting confused xD If i lvl up a spoiler, hit lvl 85 can i choose Feoh wizard as awakening class? if yes how i do that? dwarfs stats ll be erased i guess and iam gonna choose between human/elf/de class stats? then Feoh wizard?