warcryer wtf?

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ok guys i really shocked, few times seen wc soling with steal essence non stop, just thought he got herbs non stop or smth, but yesterday i was in toi with 2 wc and they drain non stop and thier mp is full, wtf guy? new update on drain from god or what? i really dont get it... they dont have mp pots (from donate ) or smth... explain plz...
they r cheaters, report them
They were using War Cry.
They were using War Cry.

no they r cheating
Orc mages have a passive that greatly replenishes their mana when they hit melee. So, thy could use Steal Essence very often as long as they through a few hits in between.
Its already reported and the answer was that in GoD ranged skills have vamp effect not only meele.
But how is passive skill of wc/domi getting mp back mp from hitting target connected to that idk. It seems ridiculous if its not a bug....at least on low levels.
It would seem normal if they only got mp back from meele attacks.
people also mentioned that you lose mp if mob has too high mdef or low hp when killed.

Edit:Check the link from Yukio above/ JuDaaN Answer
They were just spamming steal essence, from what the OP said. In TOI this would generally end you up at 0 MP because there's no herbs and they have high magic def.
they get mana back from using steal essence

most likely wasnt intended this way, but its not an exploit either
ok i understood, wc/ol is awesome now.... 1 question, when orc mages get that skill mana steal or smth, what lvl? (cause cant find in database)
the nuke is not as strong as nukers and its just stupid to kill mobs with high mdef when they can go somewhere else and get more xp/hour
ok i understood, wc/ol is awesome now.... 1 question, when orc mages get that skill mana steal or smth, what lvl? (cause cant find in database)

check passive skills/ weapon mastery
check passive skills/ weapon mastery

Weapon Mastery Lv.1 - Passive Skill
Increases P. Atk. by 1.5 and M. Atk. by 1.9. Has a chance to absorb 10% of standard melee damage inflicted on the enemy as HP.

cant find anything about mp :o
it now drains mp too, didn't you know?

still nuker is faster and there are mp herb drops and rechargers.
it now drains mp too, didn't you know?

still nuker is faster and there are mp herb drops and rechargers.

yeah sure :DDDDDDDD wc/ol u can solo non stop and mages 2 3 ppl party exp share :D and need heals etc, wc/ol now heals with drains and get mp its insane... jsut been in toi 5 with 2 wc im bd, i just danced and watched how they killed whole room non stop dont loosing any hp/mp, its sick.
oh stop ur qqing, lvling up a wc was a pain in the *** for... 7 years! not to mention that ols were only good in clan parties for... like 4-5 years.

let them enjoy their moment of epicness
yeah sure :DDDDDDDD wc/ol u can solo non stop and mages 2 3 ppl party exp share :D and need heals etc, wc/ol now heals with drains and get mp its insane... jsut been in toi 5 with 2 wc im bd, i just danced and watched how they killed whole room non stop dont loosing any hp/mp, its sick.

but WCs dont have mass nukes so its only 1 mob a time. nukers can train lost nest since all teh mobs die to 2 tempests or one 81 level mass nuke, something to do with the aura.

however ln is the only place to exp like that so maybe you're right, i will try it out with my lvl79 wc and ol.
I solo my Dominator in Dragon Valley Entrance just before you reach the pesky slugs, I use nothing but steal essence on the Drakos and those mage mobs, and guess what it gives me HP and MP I dont need to pick up pots to replenish. I dont even hit the mobs with my mace, no need at all.

At first I wondered if something was wrong as I have both Soul Guard and Arcane Power activated which suck mp and hp but my red and blue bars are always full in this area.

so no bug just another change in GoD +1 :D

however I did notice the other day while participating in a fortress that my mp was not replenishing as I was bashing away with my mace and them 2h blunt at one of the bosses in there, if anything I was being drained, anyone else noticed that, or is this just a part of the game that I have never noticed over the years?
but WCs dont have mass nukes so its only 1 mob a time. nukers can train lost nest since all teh mobs die to 2 tempests or one 81 level mass nuke, something to do with the aura.

however ln is the only place to exp like that so maybe you're right, i will try it out with my lvl79 wc and ol.

wc/ol = mp +hp infinite if u are not dumb
mage - bigger dmg, can mass etc, but still waits for mp, or msut have ee+se not noobs to heal recharge..

wc/ol non stop


p.s. wc/ol are immortal.
only Stun and Silence are dangerous now.
You forgot to talk about Mentor's buffs, that help for MP regen.
sorry but going "solo" in toi was wc/ol is just dumb, there are much better places^^
wc/ol = mp +hp infinite if u are not dumb
mage - bigger dmg, can mass etc, but still waits for mp, or msut have ee+se not noobs to heal recharge..

wc/ol non stop


p.s. wc/ol are immortal.

ee/se gets mana gain skill at 79 which doubles recharge amount, plus invocation regens mp crazy fast so only one recharger is enough for everything.

also you can use kookaburra if you don't want to bother with another window. sure it takes some % of xp but it also saves you time you'd spend waiting for mp. just make it pick up the mana herbs... of course it won't help in areas with no herb drop, you need ee or se for those.
Little explanation:
in few previous chronicles wc/ol transormed 10% of dmg from melee ordinary attacks into mana, now it works for magic skills too. (yeaa i know, green ***** are just awesome:D)

But! u must think about mana consumation of steal essence and its power (mana cost is bigger than other mages skills, but power is lower) + dmg u give to mob = if u give big dmg to mob and 10% of that dmg transform into mana and this mana ammount is bigger than steal essence cost, u will recover ur mana; if this ammount is lower, ur mana dissapear just like everyone elses :)
= in pvp we usually dont make dmg which is big enough to recover our mana;)

Anyway, i suppose that all nerds will start wc and ol now, it will be fun to see u all in pvp, its not that easy at it seems :cool:
What about after 85+? XD

Reroll?
What about after 85+? XD

Reroll?

what is wrong with ISS enchanter?

I am going to make one for my boxes. looks like a good buffer

although i have not found any description of the ISS's new buffs. do they replace dances and Prophecies and normal buffs? are they more powerful? how much time do they last? are they all given to the whole party or single target?

i have not attended PTS so did not test it :(

is this info available anywhere?
Anyone who says this has anything to do with cheating, or a Bot program is an Idiot, LOL.

This isn't really hard; New update allows Mages to Recover MP from Damage (ie. VR) ... Orc Drain is a Magic Attack, and also a drain which recovers HP... If the Drain does enough damage to the Mob, you regain more MP than it cost you to cast, and your constantly healing yourself...
They were just spamming steal essence, from what the OP said. In TOI this would generally end you up at 0 MP because there's no herbs and they have high magic def.

Not ToI 10th for example. I just stand in one spot on my OL and pretty much solo one whole half of the floor faster than most parties kill the angels. Also, not sure why there are people saying there is better XP than this in other places, lol... 120k+ XP per mob non-stop, did 75 to 76 in less than 2 hours.
So, with everything that has changed w WC'S whats a good spot t
o go 79-80?
p.s. wc/ol are immortal.

They are very easy to kill in pvp because newbi know just drain drain drain, they don't use fighter skill and are at distance.
Very easy kill.
well i tried that with my 77 OL, was pretty pathetic. the steal essence has very long reuse time and also damages very weakly. i had chant of magnus, all relevant SD dances and all buffs. mage kills same mobs 3x faster at least.

i tried killing a gem dragon but did not have a SE to remove paralisys so died horrible death. however it tanked pretty well, too bad it does not have any aggression skill ... still with SE i could kill it in a few minutes, time mage would earn much more exp by nuking normal mobs nearby.

maybe i'll try it again with SE instead of WC and SD being second DD... but aggro management will be really hard here so need a tank anyway.

i think multiple wc/ol in party might be better though... only need SE to remove paralysis and everything else they have, no need for healers of rechargers :) ok SD might be handy since it adds 8% vamp from dance.
LOL @ Hax its part of the game now
Don't forget the MP reduction buffs like clarity, that would make it even easier for the orcs to keep MP up
It's so godly, i feel like a Messiah while i play my WC.

A green Messiah with 2 horns.
yea, i have an WC too and i play it but like some1 said: steal essance mp cost is big and you have to hit the mob hard or else you dont recharge anything (im 66 lvl on shilen atm and to recharge mp i rly need empower and matk dance else its hard to recharge mp). Its not that easy belive me...
Anyway they ware rly bad and hard to lvl up a lot of years so let them enjoy ;)

and like some1 said already a few posts above, at pvp they are not so "strong".
oh stop ur qqing, lvling up a wc was a pain in the *** for... 7 years! not to mention that ols were only good in clan parties for... like 4-5 years.

let them enjoy their moment of epicness
i think that ol/wc have been epic from the beginning, and now they are even better!