Hi Sace and Juji, can u guyz fix the pk remove system, it soo broken.
First of all, U CAN WASH BAD REPUTATION WITH QUESTS, BUT THE NPCS DONT SPEAK WITH U, we can get the daily quest with red name, but we cant delivery cos the npcs are broken.
Well, most of daily quests require you to kill mobs, so you take them as a white/green name, pk someone, kill mobs (thus washing away karma), but the red name persists.
Not a smart move, uh.
The change in the Reputation (also known as Karma or PK) system was surprising for a lot of players because, as you know, it can be very unforgiving to low level characters that engage in unsanctioned PvP. The truth is that the game is now designed to propel you quite fast to level 76, and then to level 85, thanks to the changes in the Clan Academy and the new Mentor System. The main focus of the game’s new content in recent and future updates begins around level 85, and it is at that level that the new Reputation System is much more manageable. Although the penalty is harsh at the low levels, this is done to help protect new players and it is intended to provide a better game experience to everyone overall.
Having played since beta, I am horrified at the new system, totally kills everything that was good & unique and the system.
The old system worked fine, maybe the quest to remove pk count was stupid and should have been removed but everything else was perfect. Someone stealing your kills, working in your area, bad talking you, AKA GRIEFING no problem... Just flag and they generally fought back because you could work off the karma whilst still leveling yet run a risk of dropping your gear.
Now this new system makes it beneficial for all those botters and pve griefers out there because they know that 99% of people will not risk having to spend hours working off 720 karma just for 1 kill.
I remember back in the day in 04 on Hindemith my guild went on a farmer killing spree, offloaded all my good gear (C grade was hella hard to get back then) bought some no grade gear and began the massacre of the farming bots. I had a blast racked up something like 20k Karma and had worked it by allowing nubs to kill a naked me outside gludio with help from guards and also spent some time killing mobs whilst earning XP. That was a good system, you could police the server now you can't do anything unless you want a perma red who will never level which noone wants
Really ? For those low players who forget to receive the blessing, or anyone from 40+ it's not beneficial it doesn't stop a perma red high lvl from going postal on everyone and then managing their karma more than everyone lower than them.
The old system was fine, it's at the lower levels where you need to be able to police your hunting areas from bots/farmers/pve griefers. Now those lower lvls cannot do squat about it because the risk is too great.
A fairer system could have been implemented, one example would have been to make the karma scale by lvl of pker vs lvl of player pkee so a lvl 40 killing someone also in their 40's would result in less karma than say a lvl 70 killing a lvl 40.
The 31 PK no drop system is also absurd, basically got free reign on killing 31 people before you worry about dropping gear.
I'll still play the game and probably buy some coins to support but seriously you guys should reconsider the PK system seeing as though 90% of people I speak to in game agree that the current system stinks
Really ? For those low players who forget to receive the blessing, or anyone from 40+ it's not beneficial it doesn't stop a perma red high lvl from going postal on everyone and then managing their karma more than everyone lower than them.
The old system was fine, it's at the lower levels where you need to be able to police your hunting areas from bots/farmers/pve griefers. Now those lower lvls cannot do squat about it because the risk is too great.
A fairer system could have been implemented, one example would have been to make the karma scale by lvl of pker vs lvl of player pkee so a lvl 40 killing someone also in their 40's would result in less karma than say a lvl 70 killing a lvl 40.
The 31 PK no drop system is also absurd, basically got free reign on killing 31 people before you worry about dropping gear.
I'll still play the game and probably buy some coins to support but seriously you guys should reconsider the PK system seeing as though 90% of people I speak to in game agree that the current system stinksWhat's even better is awakened toons can then use their diplomas to get R gear that will not drop no matter how many PKs they have. That's why you see fairly well geared perma red awakened characters running around killing lowbies every day.
What's even better is awakened toons can then use their diplomas to get R gear that will not drop no matter how many PKs they have. That's why you see fairly well geared perma red awakened characters running around killing lowbies every day.
Which makes the reasoning for the "new" system even more stupid.
thx for ur answer Juji but according with www.lineage2.com, read the red setence below ^^. We need some LIGHT HERE, we are playing in the dark.
When hunting and completing quests, Chaotic characters do not gain XP or SP, but they do gain Reputation points. This is the only way Chaotic characters can gain Reputation points. When a character is no longer Chaotic (when that character’s Reputation level reaches zero), hunting and completing quests give XP and SP but not Reputation points.
why not? doesnt take long in the right spots, with the right help.
800.000/45 =17.777+ mobs. OOOOOOOOOOKKKKKKKKK
the only place I can remove "karma" with 17.777+ mobs is blood swamp, the other spots remove 1 or 2 not 45 and I cant go to gog or magmeld cos the red toon is 76only.
you can AOE in a 82-84 area and get your name cleared in about 8 hrs. i'd try getting some friends to summon you into FOG. at least it will be a constant train at about 4-6 per mob.
why not? doesnt take long in the right spots, with the right help.
At lvl 29 it took 4 hours on & off getting 1 to 2 rep for each kill and I was killing mobs that were red to me, luckily I know the old spots noone ever goes so was doing it in safety even managed to hand in a quest at ROD to shift off 100rep and then use the teleporter to get into town for noobie buffs then SOE out to avoid the guards and head back to another safe spot to farm.
It was foolish of me really, I never knew the system had changed (Veteran from the glory days on Hindemith) so when I realised I was like WTF and all just to kill someone KS'ing me constantly. I would have rolled afresh if it weren't for the 4000 PC Points I wanted to save plus I wanted to relive some of those miserable grind times
At lvl 29 it took 4 hours on & off getting 1 to 2 rep for each kill and I was killing mobs that were red to me, luckily I know the old spots noone ever goes so was doing it in safety even managed to hand in a quest at ROD to shift off 100rep and then use the teleporter to get into town for noobie buffs then SOE out to avoid the guards and head back to another safe spot to farm.
It was foolish of me really, I never knew the system had changed (Veteran from the glory days on Hindemith) so when I realised I was like WTF and all just to kill someone KS'ing me constantly. I would have rolled afresh if it weren't for the 4000 PC Points I wanted to save plus I wanted to relive some of those miserable grind times
yeah, at low levels the reds dont take off much more than a few points per kill; after 86 though, it becomes much faster as the mobs start giving >9 points each, so AOE can wash you much much faster; also given the value of drops at this level, it can be profitable in the long run to pause from gaining exp and simply go red once or twice per level, for the sake of cash.
its not the pk system alone thats the issue, its the whole picture.
pking didnt used to make u the big bad wolf, ppl minded there own business when u were red , now its just an excuse for a free kill, the same way being flagged or signing for tw is.
its not the pk system alone thats the issue, its the whole picture.
pking didnt used to make u the big bad wolf, ppl minded there own business when u were red , now its just an excuse for a free kill, the same way being flagged or signing for tw is.
Depends on how far back you go. People used to call PKers pinatas for a reason. They were hunted like dogs.
800k bad reputation lol make a new char and stop pking newbies in low areas
800k sounds like a lot, but what happens now is if ur red the world n there aunt wanna kill u and u end up taking more karma just defending urself, it stacks up really fast , i kinda see why ppl r going perma red.
Depends on how far back you go. People used to call PKers pinatas for a reason. They were hunted like dogs.Indeed and that helped keep the perma reds in check.