Kartia Instance - Can't Enter

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Hi.Since the end of the Update today,its impossible enter the Kartia SOlo 85 on Shilen Server.I've been trying for almost 8 hours without sucess...all players complaining the same.
There's a reason for this?(bug) or the instance is indeed crowded for 8 hours in a row?
We've seen this behavior today but we've verified that there are indeed players in the instance. There are only a limited number of instances available and when they are all full, other players cannot enter until one frees up. :( Out of curiosity, did you see this behavior much last week or before today's maintenance?
We've seen this behavior today but we've verified that there are indeed players in the instance. There are only a limited number of instances available and when they are all full, other players cannot enter until one frees up. :( Out of curiosity, did you see this behavior much last week or before today's maintenance?

Just before the maitenance today....that's why i found this weird :S
There's no time limit for the instance? I mean...i've been trying for 8 hours...and nothing
I do Kartia every day and this is the first time that de Intance is full..... it's the same problem that the First job change instace had when the server start
It was full on naia at a given time today aswell. First time i get that, but it quickly let me enter.
there must be something wrong with that. I think meaby u can use unlimited times the extra pass of kartia solo because i do kartia every day in peak hour and nothing have a problem like this.
there must be something wrong with that. I think meaby u can use unlimited times the extra pass of kartia solo because i do kartia every day in peak hour and nothing have a problem like this.
No...i'm trying to do 1 kartia solo...and i'm trying to enter with a lot of chars (just for trying) and i can't get in....
you can use one pass per day? just like de Kamaloka ones?
you can use one pass per day? just like de Kamaloka ones?

Before maintenance yes, now i dont know... therefore i said that...

No...i'm trying to do 1 kartia solo...and i'm trying to enter with a lot of chars (just for trying) and i can't get in....

What I was trying to say, is there a lot of people buying the extra pass and meaby after maintenance, there is no limit to use it and therefore we can't enter the instance because is full all day.
Before maintenance yes, now i dont know... therefore i said that...



What I was trying to say, is there a lot of people buying the extra pass and meaby after maintenance, there is no limit to use it and therefore we can't enter the instance because is full all day.

Maybe...just maybe...But its insane that i've been trying to enter for almost 10 hours...
Hello Ondrej,

When the server first comes up there will be a large demand for entry into the instance. The error message you received is in fact correct. When all of the available instance zones are in use, players cannot enter until a new slot becomes available. I would recommend to check again after a few hours when the peak of players trying to enter drops down.

If I can be of any further help, please let me know.

Regards,
GM Sparse

That's what I received from support. Maybe they just lowered instance limit. Also, maybe there is no limit on Extra Pass, so ppl are doing it over and over again -> still full.

But... full instance since 18.00 to 4.00 is not standard, and it should be investigated ASAP, pls.
What happen with kartia 85 solo??????

the maximun number of instant zones has been exeeded. you cannot enter.

this is normal????? I cant do kartia i'm 8 hrs trying this is bug??? ~~'
That's what I received from support. Maybe they just lowered instance limit. Also, maybe there is no limit on Extra Pass, so ppl are doing it over and over again -> still full.

But... full instance since 18.00 to 4.00 is not standard, and it should be investigated ASAP, pls.
Its possible use just one Pass per day(Checked with a 90 char,dunno 85).
I think that the Staff could increase the limit of instances(if possible) just like at the beginning of the server when they spawned extra mobs
Its possible use just one Pass per day(Checked with a 90 char,dunno 85).
I think that the Staff could increase the limit of instances(if possible) just like at the beginning of the server when they spawned extra mobs

Hmmm, I think they decreased it, because this isn't standard behavior of that instance.

But ty for info!
Hmmm, I think they decreased it, because this isn't standard behavior of that instance.

But ty for info!

I think that is unnecessary have a limit for these instances...i mean...whats the point? Its a solo instance
I think that is unnecessary have a limit for these instances...i mean...whats the point? Its a solo instance

Well... every instance is "object" in server engine. It is created for every player, based on "template" (same map, mobs, etc.). It means that 100 players = 100 independent "locations". And spawning lot of instances for lot of players need lot of hardware resources. That's why there must be some limit.
almost 12 hours trying to enter...nothing
Same in Chronos its imposible do Kartia solo 85 :(

Sound bugged.
any answer? i trying for hours and i cant enter...
Exactly same issue is on Chronos...
fix this :mad: you can do at this way without look at the population of servers seriously wtf :eek:
I bought a ticket to the game store on the right auxiliary input, and could not enter. Previously, this was not. Who will return my money?
do you want kartia and be strong? Pay!!! pay to be strong, if u dont have money u are noting in godess ;)
Same problem on Naia.
Since maintenance Kartia 85 Solo is packed with people having big numbers of entrance passes. Very similar to the instance problem with Delusion when that was top-spot to exp.

I think instance limit still as low as 60... With a population of 4k players wanting to do Kartia, that ain't much.
some players can enter without problems, and others cannot enter any way.
hope ncsoft fix this bug fast
this happened not long after someone ( :rolleyes: ) posted on some forum how you can spam kartia solo (with pass) and level up 90 in just few hours trololol, and now it's on official board, oops (I want 0.1% of each pass in my bank account kkthx! :D)
this happened not long after someone ( :rolleyes: ) posted on some forum how you can spam kartia solo (with pass) and level up 90 in just few hours trololol, and now it's on official board, oops (I want 0.1% of each pass in my bank account kkthx! :D)

You can only use 1 pass a day, unless there's an exploit. I've tried.


I can confirm this is happening on Chronos, 10 minutes and can't enter due to too many instances running. I've done the solo Kartia previously every day and 2x a day for the past week with no issue.

This is definitely irregular behavious only happening after maintainence.
Server Naia - has similar problems.

Yesterday first time I encounter problem with enter into Solo Kartia.
Ok, it was 22.00 GMT so it was rush hours I could understand...
After 20-30 min of attempts I manage.
But strange coincidence - maintenance and problems with log ...

Today I had a possibility to log into game at 10.00 GMT.
According http://naia.kaifas.lt it was around 2400 ppl with close to 400 shops ... and again same message.

Instance full .. blah blah blah.
Are you serious?
Suddenly almost at lowest activity of server can't enter instance?
If it really full please extend number of instances.
But mine guess something has been change in counting people in instance.

After 10-15 min of attempts I manage to enter...
I've never seen this message before until today and now it's impossible to enter.

You shouldn't sell kartia passes unless you can guarantee service.
Stop selling kartia passes unless you can deliver the service.

It's not free to play now it's free to pay.
Stop posting ... posts. You can't get inside even with Extra Pass, so I don't know, what are you talking about.
Sace, please check kartia solo, I'm losing 3% per day.
not much, for those who play 2 hours a day, is very XP
Koreans did it again dammmmm ... does ninja patches with bugs...
Ninja patches, same problem on bartz =\
do believe that there is a limited number of instances and that many players are doing, what is passing strange that this happened rarely before upgrading and now with all players on all servers throughout the day, surely something is wrong .
Please is already the second day of loss generating - 6% or more on our experience
Just fix a limit to 1 use per day like Kamaloka.
I've never seen this message before until today and now it's impossible to enter.

I saw it the first day it was available.
increase the amount of 85 instances for kartia.. this is the 2nd day on Naia that during "prime time" it's near impossible to enter..

my dual sub needs xp too..
Merging like-minded threads into this one and changed the thread title for clarity. Indeed it seems there was a ninja patch that has changed the max number of instance zones. :( We're still investigating this to determine the numbers and how this communication was missed (and why the number was reduced in the first place). Once we have all the info we'll share updates ASAP.
They changed the number cause it was always laggy in kartia

I never do the solo one as its not worth the effort
1 nursery in same time = same xp, but also more relaxing

When it comes to solo play im casual..
Posted already here (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=237028), GM says it's fine, but IMHO they decreased limit of instances very drastically.

IMO, a solo instance is a bad bad idea on an already overcrowded server, that could bog down the server, with even a little number of ppl playing a solo dungeon, think of make every boss instance multiply it by 7 or even 14, thats about the workload on the server :(

Reducing the quota on those solo instance, or even consider making the CD to 3 days or 5 days is a measure in the right direction. I would rather have a lag free server without kartia solo than one which nobody would enjoy.
plz fix it, i need make level only solo instance i dont have social gameplay ^^
Merging like-minded threads into this one and changed the thread title for clarity. Indeed it seems there was a ninja patch that has changed the max number of instance zones. :( We're still investigating this to determine the numbers and how this communication was missed (and why the number was reduced in the first place). Once we have all the info we'll share updates ASAP.

As i wrote in the latest maintenance...

The only thing of which we can be sure, is that NCWest faks up something(atleast informations) with every downtime.
I have always been able to enter kartia without problems until this last patch, yesterday I tried to enter the instance from 14:00 till 4:00 no success. Plus nobody from my clan was able to enter either in the whole day. Ninja nerf? Naia server.
Hello Ondrej,

You are absolutely correct we found that the instance count was actually lowered after we received further reports from players. If you still did not get a chance to re-enter, please let me know and I can provide another Entrance Pass.

I look forward to your reply.

Regards,
GM Sparse

It isn't fixed yet :(
Lol this sux...

NC: "man i hate casuals, lets decrease instances to screw casuals, once again!"
lvl 90 solo instance now also maxed out on Naia
They changed the number cause it was always laggy in kartia

I never do the solo one as its not worth the effort
1 nursery in same time = same xp, but also more relaxing

When it comes to solo play im casual..

Never had any lag inside the Kartia and it was always 2x more XP than the nursery instance for me. Besides solo Kartia was same XP with or without Vitality so that made it much better later in the week once you had run out.
few minutes ago Shilen server crashed or w/e it happened, so it goes on and not even a minute ( time i needed to buff ) after NPC gone on the solo instance was full, seriously wtf is happened? there are only 5 instances ?
i checked the whole day, can never get it? is it always full? or just during the weekend?
guess I am not the only one complaining... how many people can be in the group party?
It's not about the number of people, it's about the number of instances. I'm thinking they didn't bother to think about it and gave all instances the same maximum.

So say you can have 10 kartia instances of each kind. For solo that means only 10 people can run it at the same time. For group it means 10 parties and thus 70 people total.

Since the group one is never full they should have increased the solo instance max and decreased the group max.

Just keep trying ... you'll get in eventually.

Edit: there are other threads about this already ...
It's one thing to have failed attempts but for entire days to go by being unable to enter? This can't be working as intended.

This has to be addressed.
I am also having the same problem three days ago that I try to enter kartia, but can not
this answer helped me alot, had not thought of that ;)
thx
Cant enter on kartia since maintenance except yesterday. At 1am gmt+0 is full on naia.
Just do it another time, at morning for example
So u make thread that even the title implies you made a duplicate thread?

Gratz on not being able to read forum rules.
5 days without kartia.
+ - 3% per day, nearly 20% lost
Hi folks,

Update on this: we're still pursuing a permanent fix to this issue but for now we've temporarily manually increased the maximum number of simultaneous Kartia instances on all servers so that players should not be hindered by this issue anymore. :)
Can we please request a week of unlimited vitality item usage (similar to last time) to make-up from the lost exp due to Kartia inaccessibility?
Can we please request a week of unlimited vitality item usage (similar to last time) to make-up from the lost exp due to Kartia inaccessibility?

Oh yeah! And I've been away from home the whole week so I demand a bunch of free xp runes and instance passes to help me gain all the xp that I missed! :D

lmao


Seriously though, would you also request something in compensation for the previous chronicles when Kartia wasn't introduced yet?
Don't be a jerk.

I have been unable to do Kartia solo on any of my toons since the maintenance due to that issue.

Maybe some people weren't home, but lots of us were and had to deal with this issue. The instance was basically inaccessible. 3+ hours can't get in, do you seriously expect me to spend more time than that (which is already more than enough) to try to get into that instance. Am I not a real person with a real life, as well?
Oh yeah! And I've been away from home the whole week

I wasn't.

Seriously though, would you also request something in compensation for the previous chronicles when Kartia wasn't introduced yet?

Really? That's your serious question?
If they had screwed up some other aspect of the game which prevented us from getting exp, then yes, I would request compensation.

I don't know, like, an event which rewarded people for remaining logged in which prevented others from being able to log in. This was the previous screwup which they already acknowledged and compensated us with the infinite vitality item usage.
They changed something that wasn't broken and prevented hundreds of opportunities to enter where there was no issue before. It cost me just under 2 billion exp over time regardless of how long I spent trying to get in and others can say the same. When the next server day hits it's lost exp no matter how you look at it and it was through no fault of our own.

Is it so unreasonable to ask for a little compensation for the time we lost due to a feature they broke without warning anyone about it? It's not like it would have any adverse effect on their side. Something as simple as spawning christmas trees in the fantasy island again or giving us a few solo kartia passes would suffice.
If I was trying to finish a SOA daily, but I constantly get killed by a wartag, preventing me from completing the quest, and losing my chance of getting an apoc wep, who will compensate me?

I asked the wartag but he just laughed at me.


Edit: No, this isnt true, I lied a bit, I have no wartags, nor do I have trouble finishing the quest. This was just an analogy to show how ridiculous the request was.
People calculating xp points like it's a real money loss... Get real!
Inorite.

It's ridonculous!

Imagine if the power goes out, will they complain about exp loss to the electric company?
If I was trying to finish a SOA daily, but I constantly get killed by a wartag, preventing me from completing the quest, and losing my chance of getting an apoc wep, who will compensate me?



No higher power is preventing you from completing SOA daily. The example you are giving shows that an individiual with the same power as you is preventing you from finishing your quest, you have other methods to finish your quest.

Kartia , on the other hand, is like the login issue, there is a "force" from the server software outside of player's own free will realm that cannot be break through without changing restrictions on the server software.

Therefore, these are 2 very diferent situations because completing a quest ingame is achievable by a player, while changing values on the server is not. So we have no power and NC is therefore responsible for missusing the power they have.


NC Thanks for lifting the cap size BTW! Did 2 solo kartias today, tomorrow goes another 2! YEAH BROTHA!
People calculating xp points like it's a real money loss... Get real!

if your lost time is worth nothing, for me it is worth,
time is money.
Instead of wasting 1h++ to enter Kartia 85 you could have xped at Harnak / Soa etc.
if your lost time is worth nothing, for me it is worth,
time is money.
I spend my time better than calculating my xp points per day.
This was just an analogy to show how ridiculous the request was.

It's a very bad analogy.
Casting Resurrection on this thread, as it seems Kartia is once again unable to enter. I attempted to enter the 85 solo and I see:

The maximum number of instant zones has been exceeded. You cannot enter.

Everything was working fine until today, perhaps a ninja patch again or a reset of the manual increase implemented in 2012?