During the transition of the server transfer account service to live access, some unexpected bugs arose and they have not been resolved yet. Therefore unfortunately server transfer availability must be delayed. The current estimated duration of the delay is 24 hours. Thus, we hope to have good news tomorrow and announce server transfers as available at that time.
We apologize for this inconvenience. The server transfer detail pages will be taken down for the time being, and will become public again when the service opens in the future.
If there are any changes to the ETA of the delay we will update you as soon as possible.
Do you know wich items can be transfered with the player?.
Like, weapon, armor, accesory, and money.
Or only de player with nothing?:(
I would assume it will be like they used to, you take only what you're wearing + the adena you have on you. Anything in your wh/inventory gets deleted.
Although I still say they open up free transfers for a limited time for those of us that got ****** over by the timezone changes...
Do you know wich items can be transfered with the player?.
Like, weapon, armor, accesory, and money.
Or only de player with nothing?:(
The list of transferrables is virtually unchanged since the last time we did server transfers. If you like you can check the old list here (http://www.lineage2.com/en/news/events/server-transfers-to-magmeld.php) (scroll down to "What is transferrable?"), but please remember some changes may have occurred, and you will only see the latest and most accurate list when the service opens and the page is posted on the website again.
I have a player in chronos called "Irso". Then, when i went to Shillen, i created a player called "Irso" too.
If i want to transfer the chronos player, to shillen server... i wouldnt because i had a player called the same nick.
How can i do that, is it possible?
SO Sace has NCSoft just snuffed it's nose at players who joined a server in the US time zones, only to have it changed by some sort of website rabble vote and switched to EURO timezone?
It would seem to me that the only proper thing ncsoft could do would be to offer free transfer for those of us who joined said servers under the notion that we were joining United States server times, after all would any of the servers have the population they do if we knew a few months after joining all major in game events would be switched to times that did not work for those on the server?
I don't want to hear about the voting. Regardless of the outcome some servers are still better suited for US players as they may only be EST +1 or so.
It's false advertising as well as making the rules up after the game has started and it's dirty pool.
SO Sace has NCSoft just snuffed it's nose at players who joined a server in the US time zones, only to have it changed by some sort of website rabble vote and switched to EURO timezone?
It would seem to me that the only proper thing ncsoft could do would be to offer free transfer for those of us who joined said servers under the notion that we were joining United States server times, after all would any of the servers have the population they do if we knew a few months after joining all major in game events would be switched to times that did not work for those on the server?
I don't want to hear about the voting. Regardless of the outcome some servers are still better suited for US players as they may only be EST +1 or so.
It's false advertising and making the rules up after the game has started and it's dirty pool.
And how do you propose "those players" get a free transfer? It would have to go for all servers and all players. Good luck
And how do you propose "those players" get a free transfer? It would have to go for all servers and all players. Good luck
It should be server to server. They said one thing and did another, thus ******* all those people who made the best educated decision that they could at the time.
It's the least they can do, especially since half the servers have poor populations and will likely be merged sooner then later.
SO Sace has NCSoft just snuffed it's nose at players who joined a server in the US time zones, only to have it changed by some sort of website rabble vote and switched to EURO timezone?
It would seem to me that the only proper thing ncsoft could do would be to offer free transfer for those of us who joined said servers under the notion that we were joining United States server times, after all would any of the servers have the population they do if we knew a few months after joining all major in game events would be switched to times that did not work for those on the server?
I don't want to hear about the voting. Regardless of the outcome some servers are still better suited for US players as they may only be EST +1 or so.
It's false advertising as well as making the rules up after the game has started and it's dirty pool.
I think you have a point, a free server transfer to those affected by the time change on servers would be logical
But i admit i'd be just happy with a paid transfer avaliable
however i really think i'm 1 day away from being mad, since Sace said the transferrable itens are "virtualy unchanged" i dont see the point of wating this long time and all i can do is go to other server pratically naked
(ok my armor and weapon go, what about my dual-class weapon/armor? and my augument skill wepons? and the untradable vitality itens? and my chronos itens? [they are almost useless but i've been collecting then since forever and i'd like to keep then too])
The list of transferrables is virtually unchanged since the last time we did server transfers. If you like you can check the old list here (http://www.lineage2.com/en/news/events/server-transfers-to-magmeld.php) (scroll down to "What is transferrable?"), but please remember some changes may have occurred, and you will only see the latest and most accurate list when the service opens and the page is posted on the website again.
I think you have a point, a free server transfer to those affected by the time change on servers would be logical
But i admit i'd be just happy with a paid transfer avaliable
however i really think i'm 1 day away from being mad, since Sace said the transferrable itens are "virtualy unchanged" i dont see the point of wating this long time and all i can do is go to other server pratically naked
(ok my armor and weapon go, what about my dual-class weapon/armor? and my augument skill wepons? and the untradable vitality itens? and my chronos itens? [they are almost useless but i've been collecting then since forever and i'd like to keep then too])
I felt the same too until the server times changed. Then I was cleaning out old mail and saw how many transfers, and account services I have paid for in the past. Only to be on a server that I have no attachment to and have the option of stick it out and not participate in the content, or pay another 50 bucks to leave, only to have the server i transfer to change names in a few months when they merge them. may as well just wait for a merge. Which is bound to happen.
however i really think i'm 1 day away from being mad, since Sace said the transferrable itens are "virtualy unchanged" i dont see the point of wating this long time and all i can do is go to other server pratically naked
(ok my armor and weapon go, what about my dual-class weapon/armor? and my augument skill wepons? and the untradable vitality itens? and my chronos itens? [they are almost useless but i've been collecting then since forever and i'd like to keep then too])
This is how server transfers have been since day one of the service. I don't know how you could have thought it would be different this time. Any rational person would have assumed that this was exactly how it was going to work this time around.
SO Sace has NCSoft just snuffed it's nose at players who joined a server in the US time zones, only to have it changed by some sort of website rabble vote and switched to EURO timezone?
It would seem to me that the only proper thing ncsoft could do would be to offer free transfer for those of us who joined said servers under the notion that we were joining United States server times, after all would any of the servers have the population they do if we knew a few months after joining all major in game events would be switched to times that did not work for those on the server?
I don't want to hear about the voting. Regardless of the outcome some servers are still better suited for US players as they may only be EST +1 or so.
It's false advertising as well as making the rules up after the game has started and it's dirty pool.
It should be server to server. They said one thing and did another, thus ******* all those people who made the best educated decision that they could at the time.
It's the least they can do, especially since half the servers have poor populations and will likely be merged sooner then later.
I understand you points of view, but combined this logic would spiral into redundancy. If there are server merges, some players would be upset with server times all over again, and it would be even less likely that we can offer servers of varying time zones to meet each player's desires. Fortunately, there are no plans for server merges, and no plans to change servers' time zones. Also, we will be opening server transfers to and from all servers for the beginning. This allows players to transfer to a server that suits their time zone better if they so wish.
The list of servers available for transfer may change in the future to prevent overloading but for the start they will all be open and we will see how things go. Obviously we cannot know what the future will bring, and therefore we cannot make plans or promises for it. At all times we try to accommodate the needs of as many players as possible, though it is understandably impossible to please everyone.
I can understand some may have skepticism or doubts, but until we know what will change, these are unfounded and will only degrade one's experience of the game and service. The service and the servers' status is what it is for now, so let's make the best of it and enjoy ourselves. :)
When they merge the servers you'll get to have all your stuff on the new server... for free. As in the past they stated they would not merge the servers and we have seen the servers merge at least twice after we were told "there were no plans" to do so. Server population is the deciding factor, empty servers drive away paying users.
This is how server transfers have been since day one of the service. I don't know how you could have thought it would be different this time. Any rational person would have assumed that this was exactly how it was going to work this time around.
Nowadays (and some time ago also) we have other things to think about, many equips from dual classes, subclasses, untradable itens, among others
I'm expecting someone, anyone from NC to have remenbered this facts
and i dont think this makes me more or less rational
When they merge the servers you'll get to have all your stuff on the new server... for free. As in the past they stated they would not merge the servers and we have seen the servers merge at least twice after we were told "there were no plans" to do so. Server population is the deciding factor, empty servers drive away paying users.
This ^
Just because they said no merges were planned doesn't mean it hasn't been discussed as something in the future.
I'm not sure what you're arguing. My only point is that no one should be surprised that what you transfer is limited.
Not arguing, tring to make it clear that I KNOW how server transfer worked in the past
and that i think the problem is gonna be overlooked again, but honestly hope not
Not arguing, tring to make it clear that I KNOW how server transfer worked in the past
and that i think the problem is gonna be overlooked again, but honestly hope not
When they did free transfers off chronos, things I left in my inventory that weren't listed did transfer. All my vit pots of various forms, my festival cloaks, the old TW quest cloak. It's a gamble on some stuff so I'd sell what you can't wear and if you don't leave it in your inventory on your toon because it could possibly transfer.
I understand you points of view, but combined this logic would spiral into redundancy. If there are server merges, some players would be upset with server times all over again, and it would be even less likely that we can offer servers of varying time zones to meet each player's desires. Fortunately, there are no plans for server merges, and no plans to change servers' time zones. Also, we will be opening server transfers to and from all servers for the beginning. This allows players to transfer to a server that suits their time zone better if they so wish.
The list of servers available for transfer may change in the future to prevent overloading but for the start they will all be open and we will see how things go. Obviously we cannot know what the future will bring, and therefore we cannot make plans or promises for it. At all times we try to accommodate the needs of as many players as possible, though it is understandably impossible to please everyone.
I can understand some may have skepticism or doubts, but until we know what will change, these are unfounded and will only degrade one's experience of the game and service. The service and the servers' status is what it is for now, so let's make the best of it and enjoy ourselves. :)
think of a server merge quickly because some will die by the tranfer
I think you have a point, a free server transfer to those affected by the time change on servers would be logical
But i admit i'd be just happy with a paid transfer avaliable
however i really think i'm 1 day away from being mad, since Sace said the transferrable itens are "virtualy unchanged" i dont see the point of wating this long time and all i can do is go to other server pratically naked
(ok my armor and weapon go, what about my dual-class weapon/armor? and my augument skill wepons? and the untradable vitality itens? and my chronos itens? [they are almost useless but i've been collecting then since forever and i'd like to keep then too])
WTF are itens ? i swear the IQ of the people that play this game now must be 10-30 lol
please tell me wtf itens are lol ..... is it some kinda of new Mac Product ? iten lol
While Chronos and Naia are relatively solid relative to max server population, the other three are kind of low. However, those three are not as low as previous servers populations that got merged. Based on current populations and monthly loss, it is unlikely that any servers will will be considered by NCwest for merges before December. This dynamic may change with server transfers. However, unless there is a crazy mass server transfer, Chronos and Naia will not be merged, but instead the other three would get combined. Either way, don't bank on server merge to transfer your full inventory for several months.
WTF are itens ? i swear the IQ of the people that play this game now must be 10-30 lol
please tell me wtf itens are lol ..... is it some kinda of new Mac Product ? iten lol
this is a commom error from people that don't have english as they native language and/or are used to two sets of rules when it comes to writing and sometimes it gets messed up
far better than some idiot flaming about a word mistake that is completely understandable
I think one thing that has some concerned is dualclass gear that is BOUND, stuff they paid several hundred million to get and can't just store on another character or move to another character to transfer servers as well.
In the past (pre-bound gear) if we truly wanted our gear (with exception of augments) we could put it on another character and pay for a 2nd character transfer and viola we have all our gear again, expensively but we still had it.
The new gear system makes that impossible, yes there are re-seal scrolls but you lose all +s and all elements in the process, again often several hundred million adena investment.
Sace I hope you can touch on this topic. The uncertainty we're left with at this time doesn't really allow for us to know exacts.
I think one thing that has some concerned is dualclass gear that is BOUND, stuff they paid several hundred million to get and can't just store on another character or move to another character to transfer servers as well.
In the past (pre-bound gear) if we truly wanted our gear (with exception of augments) we could put it on another character and pay for a 2nd character transfer and viola we have all our gear again, expensively but we still had it.
The new gear system makes that impossible, yes there are re-seal scrolls but you lose all +s and all elements in the process, again often several hundred million adena investment.
Sace I hope you can touch on this topic. The uncertainty we're left with at this time doesn't really allow for us to know exacts.
I agree with you, we can't anymore transfer your second stuff (for main class or dual class) cause for me they are all bounded, I can't trade it to another char, why don't you transfer items in inventory too ?
If you check others mmo, you don't have all these restrictions about stuff...
It'll be possible to transfer Shilen to Naia ?
This is how server transfers have been since day one of the service. I don't know how you could have thought it would be different this time. Any rational person would have assumed that this was exactly how it was going to work this time around.
Because now we got life stone on our weapon, not tradable, we got bound, not tradable, we got L2 store items not tradable, we got event items, not tradable...
Before we just needed to trade others items to a new character to transfer, now we can't.
Because now we got life stone on our weapon, not tradable, we got bound, not tradable, we got L2 store items not tradable, we got event items, not tradable...
Before we just needed to trade others items to a new character to transfer, now we can't.
How is this different than the last round of server transfers? Anyway, read the rules about transfers. It's gonna be almost the same as last time.
How is this different than the last round of server transfers? Anyway, read the rules about transfers. It's gonna be almost the same as last time.
Before a lot of items was tradable, now it's not.
Game has change, why they don't change their transfer system ? They added L2 store where all items are not tradable, why we can't transfer these items ?
The easiest way would be to transfer all our inventory too.
Before a lot of items was tradable, now it's not.
I waiting their page description about it.
What they listed before really wasn't much.You can only take for sure what you can equip on yourself,one pet ( the gear won't transfer so sell it), adena within a limit. Anything else you leave in your inventory is a chance it might transfer. Leave it in your WH and it won't. Read the instructions over carefully to ensure you understand.
How is this different than the last round of server transfers? Anyway, read the rules about transfers. It's gonna be almost the same as last time.
I think what you seem to be deliberately missing is the people who play the game are stating that variables have changed and ncsoft shouldn't just use an old, outdated policy, when drastic conditions have changed. And so much as you might be right, these concerned players have every right to voice their concerns in posts regarding the issues w/o certain people trying to sidetrack the conversation at hand.
It's not like a player has any other voice per say in regards to their concerns and these posts would be much better w/o the sarcasm and the answers that you give to dissuade people from asking.
Before a lot of items was tradable, now it's not.
Game has change, why they don't change their transfer system ? They added L2 store where all items are not tradable, why we can't transfer these items ?
The easiest way would be to transfer all our inventory too.
I'm waiting their page description about it.
is the same game for me, since it goes free i just buy nc coins to get 1 unbind scroll.
stay with bound stuff is ur choice. if u buy stuff at galleria, this is ur choice too.
ps: wts +3 Twilight Leather Set 1668 element (bp+helmet+boots=blessed, gloves+4) = 2.5b magmeld server, this set was getting dust since february 1.
is the same game for me, since it goes free i just buy nc coins to get 1 unbind scroll.
stay with bound stuff is ur choice. if u buy stuff at galleria, this is ur choice too.
I would disagree friend. If you buy items from the ncstore they sure as hell better transfer. Old items is one thing but items purchased through the ncstore should 100% be transferred on principle alone.
NCSOFT-you paid me money for x.
You- Hey I want to pay you more money to transfer but I just bought two destiny packs and a bunch of xp runes
Ncsoft- Pay me money to transfer and then pay me money for two more destiny packs and xp runes. It's fair honest
I would disagree friend. If you buy items from the ncstore they sure as hell better transfer. Old items is one thing but items purchased through the ncstore should 100% be transferred on principle alone.
NCSOFT-you paid me money for x.
You- Hey I want to pay you more money to transfer but I just bought two destiny packs and a bunch of xp runes
Ncsoft- Pay me money to transfer and then pay me money for two more destiny packs and xp runes. It's fair honest
ARE U CRYING ABOUT RUNES? USE IT BEFORE TRANSFER :mad:
I think one thing that has some concerned is dualclass gear that is BOUND, stuff they paid several hundred million to get and can't just store on another character or move to another character to transfer servers as well.
In the past (pre-bound gear) if we truly wanted our gear (with exception of augments) we could put it on another character and pay for a 2nd character transfer and viola we have all our gear again, expensively but we still had it.
The new gear system makes that impossible, yes there are re-seal scrolls but you lose all +s and all elements in the process, again often several hundred million adena investment.
Sace I hope you can touch on this topic. The uncertainty we're left with at this time doesn't really allow for us to know exacts.
I know that in the present situation it's not much consolation, but during a heated discussion with the developers on May 28 Korean players said basically the same as you: http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=390&l=961
(about 1/3 down the page, above the screenshot of the Bound Seraph Boots)
The developers were listening to the masses and introduced additional, weapon/armor-specific Unbind Scrolls with Echo 3, both 100% ones and Campaign varieties with a low success rate. There are now quite a number of ways to get your hands on Unbind Scrolls: http://power.plaync.co.kr/lineage2/%EC%86%8D%EB%B0%95+%ED%95%B4%EC%A0%9C+%EC%A3%BC%EB %AC%B8%EC%84%9C
Echo 3 went live in Korea on July 25, so we might get it over here in January, depending on whether we get the four Echo parts separately or rolled into one big update, like High Five.
ARE U CRYING ABOUT RUNES? USE IT BEFORE TRANSFER :mad:
I'm not crying period, I have toons on all servers that I need so I wont be transferring. what I'm saying is these items should be easily transferred or reissued.
I think what you seem to be deliberately missing is the people who play the game are stating that variables have changed and ncsoft shouldn't just use an old, outdated policy, when drastic conditions have changed. And so much as you might be right, these concerned players have every right to voice their concerns in posts regarding the issues w/o certain people trying to sidetrack the conversation at hand.
And what you are deliberately ignoring is what started this discussion in the first place. The original person I responded to was upset that transfers are going to work the same way they always have, for the most part. My point in this thread has always been, you should have expected that they would work the same way. That's it. It is debatable that the "variables" as you put it, have changed significantly since the last time transfers were available. I contend that they have not.
It's not like a player has any other voice per say in regards to their concerns and these posts would be much better w/o the sarcasm and the answers that you give to dissuade people from asking.
What have I said in this thread that has been sarcastic?
I'm not crying period, I have toons on all servers that I need so I wont be transferring. what I'm saying is these items should be easily transferred or reissued.
when i got free transfer, my aniversary cloaks came with me plus my sub class certificate chance and some more other stuff. the path to awaken resets for all my transfered toons.
i guess if u have bought permanent stuff on store, i guess it ll goes with u when u tranfers.
i cant tell u about runes cos i never bought those.
when i got free transfer, my aniversary cloaks came with me plus my sub class certificate chance and some more other stuff. the path to awaken resets for all my transfered toons.
i guess if u have bought permanent stuff on store, i guess it ll goes with u when u tranfers.
i cant tell u about runes cos i never bought those.
Your guess isnt good enough for me no offense, I would wait until hearing from the officials as to the ncshop items.
There are now quite a number of ways to get your hands on Unbind Scrolls:
lol 400-500 million a pop (thats what they go for on market for R95) if you aren't lucky enough to get them from a raid isn't really a fun thing if you have an entire gear-set to be concerned about or multiple weapons for a class.
I think you have a point, a free server transfer to those affected by the time change on servers would be logical
But i admit i'd be just happy with a paid transfer avaliable
however i really think i'm 1 day away from being mad, since Sace said the transferrable itens are "virtualy unchanged" i dont see the point of wating this long time and all i can do is go to other server pratically naked
(ok my armor and weapon go, what about my dual-class weapon/armor? and my augument skill wepons? and the untradable vitality itens? and my chronos itens? [they are almost useless but i've been collecting then since forever and i'd like to keep then too])
When I went from chronos to magmeld for free I left all my vitality items in my inventory,ancient cloak,festival cloaks, dimensional diamonds,feather of resurrections and those transferred even though NCsoft didn't list those.
The only thing you can do is seal up the gear, move it to another toon, identify it again and equip it and pay for it to transfer, seal it again and send it to the desired toon. That's gonna cost you so I suggest just sealing it and selling it and trying to get what it's worth in value to the server you are going and buy it there.
lol 400-500 million a pop (thats what they go for on market for R95) if you aren't lucky enough to get them from a raid isn't really a fun thing if you have an entire gear-set to be concerned about or multiple weapons for a class.
Through the increased supply as of Echo 3, Unbind Scrolls might get cheaper in the future. Again, I know that this doesn't help you now, but NCsoft is aware of the problem. For them that's a simple matter of cash money, real money. In Korea there are since a few months whole clans migrating from server to server, helping their friends to conquer/hold castles and farming the tax campaigns: http://www.inven.co.kr/board/powerbbs.php?come_idx=390&l=972
As RapidBlades from Rochand has pointed out, a whole clan migrating means a lot of money wandering into the pockets of NCsoft, and they can double this when each player takes along a "mule character" with his or her Dual Class equipment. So the general direction is to move away from the item system as it was introduced with GoD. During the discussion in the Ong PC Cafe the developers said that at the time it was introduced to give casual players ("light users", as they are called in Korea) an opportunity to gear up, but that it had turned out that Bound items are, through their inability to swap them between characters, actually more expensive than regular ones.
So don't despair, Seoul is aware of the problem and working on it :)