+1 been wanted to request this for a long time. Server is really boring with such low population. Especially when I live on the otherside of the world it takes me a very long time to find groups for dailies when I log on.
mergers have happened several times in the past so no worries NCWest knows how to do that.. still they will only consider it once the average population per server goes below 1,2k as that's when it happened in the past when Teon Franz & Luna got merged as Franz & Luna went really really low.. much lower then Bartz right now
Both smaller population of game, two server are dead.
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as long as the server stays the time zone of Bartz,
Really though, the servers population may be small but the time zones are not comparable. In the long run if the two were merged the population would again decrees due to people leaving the game due to time zone differences. I know of about 25-30 people that left L2 after my old server changed time zones. IMO, it's a very bad practice; L2 requires people to play during specific times to siege, olympiad and coc and changing the times on players that have put alot of time into an account will make them leave.
Server Merges aren't good things. It result more bigger population looses.
What would be here necessary it is a Cross Server Partymatchling system what with the players would find or make party through the servers.
I agree with it, that if a server lower populated right now when so many level limited instances harder to find to them a party.
But with the Glory Days update too, more and more focus will again on the open field areas where won't need such things to these areas also really well enough the population of Bartz and Magmeld too.
I personally say NCwest should wait first the Chapter 3: Lindvior if after too would reduce the population or something than maybe they can merges the Bartz and Magmeld.
Many of my friends from Lineage 2 who arent playing now interesting so much about the Chapter 3 so we have to calculate with it, that many players will return and try the new 34 classes.
It would be a huge issue if the servers would be kind of full like they were in December and January.
Also NCwest should let transfer the people from Chronos, Naia and Shilen to Magmeld and Bartz and they shouldn't let, that Magmeld and Bartz players transfer away from these servers.
Maybe the timezone is a reason too why the players perfer to change the first 3 servers what is much more ideal to their timezones.
What would be here necessary it is a Cross Server Partymatchling system what with the players would find or make party through the servers.
To be viable, this suggestion would need the following:
-Unify the databases of each server, and solve conflicts between clans' and characters' names (as with server merges)
-Host a server to unify the parties made with such system
-Rebuild the game from scratch.
Right now, not even Guild Wars 2 has a cross-server party matching.
Vote !
There's no server announcement to let people know to come vote so what's the objective of this poll? Sounds like someone making a poll in a dark place without daylight and getting their friends to 'vote' so they can get what they want without a real majority voting.
IMO there should be a way to vote using ingame mechanics where only players with level 86 toons can cast ingame ballets. That will weed out many of the people that manipulated the votes in the past and have caused the game to loose so many players for the betterment of the few.
Which time zones are the server to be in, how to handle the merger of clan halls . . . come on man, don't just speak out to merge servers without addressing the details - your idea is a broad stroke of a brush without taking a lot of things into consideration that people have spent time on ingame. Give details of how your merger will impact the servers and how to correct the issues that have been mentioned here and then get with the staff to ensure the changes are implemented.
Who is your contact at NCSoft that has endorsed your poll and that you are speaking to to help with your idea?
We are always monitoring and assessing server status and population, but at this time there are no plans for merging any of the servers. If this changes in the future we will announce it to players, but it will be based on internal data and server population numbers which are confidential. Player discussion about the topic is permitted, but please understand that decisions like this are not made based on polls.
Interesting that in less than 1 year the servers went from "ZOMG! Too many people!! We must open more servers!!" to "ZOMG!! I can't log ON!!" to "ZOMG!! Too few people!! We must MERGE SERVERS!!". To think that the game is approaching it's one year since going Pay to Win that it's going back to it's population size pre-GOD. I wonder if NC Soft will implement "Pay You to Play"?
I didn't really heard anyone who would leave cuz of the item shop.
Mostly the reason was the instance focused gameplay what isn't so good for the old school Lineage 2 players.
Also was a reason the Tersi event what offer to those more items who stay online 24/7 and stand in the town.
And yes, the big ban hammers what came at February they should came at December or January to make more place for the players.
And after all we had many MMO nomads too who come to try every new game or games what goes to f2p after some months later leave, while some private server players found to hard the official and moved back to his private server.
But with the Glory Days or mainly with Chapter 3, I guess again many of them will return.
The server pop on the other 3 servers are fine as it is, I would suggest that they make Magmeld and Bartz suggested server for new players.
Aion did it by giving compensation to asmodians to balance its population. On L2 maybe 50% off on server transfers :rolleyes: or anything for both new and veteran player to move to less populated servers :cool:
Yes on Aion there are incentives to make up for the population issues from races (free gear and items).
Thing is, here every server has incentives to start play ( path of awakening) so the only incentive players can get is from sugesting new servers on menu login or they themselves prefering newer servers.
Most older players don't want to move because it means loss of clan,items or clan hall. I took a free ride off chronos because the server was so over loaded I couldn't log in. So some of us in our clan opted to leave for magmeld. It wasn't bad for awhile,but now it's pretty dead and full of botters. I haven't been in all week due to work,but I'm sure it's the same ol.
Most older players don't want to move because it means loss of clan,items or clan hall. I took a free ride off chronos because the server was so over loaded I couldn't log in. So some of us in our clan opted to leave for magmeld. It wasn't bad for awhile,but now it's pretty dead and full of botters. I haven't been in all week due to work,but I'm sure it's the same ol.
YES!, why? Magmeld died when NC made the free server transfer to Magmeld, a lot of high level clans transfered to Magmeld and since the transfer they keep ruling Magmeld. These clans farmed so well, that they have "pet clans" who are owners of castles and fortress and the new clans can't grow cos' of that. Magmeld is sick of these 2 clans that "own" the server, we need more people and stop this. Also, we need more players cos': is hard to complete parties to do instances (due to the lack of players) and the items are too expensive (more players = more items going arround = cheaper items).
We are always monitoring and assessing server status and population, but at this time there are no plans for merging any of the servers. If this changes in the future we will announce it to players, but it will be based on internal data and server population numbers which are confidential. Player discussion about the topic is permitted, but please understand that decisions like this are not made based on polls.
sry me sace, but real number is of 1 player for 7 bots in magmeld
log in server and see, dont have ppl for do a kartia/fortu/instance need box 2 3 acc for it
siege is 3 pt vs 3pt max, oly in full Saturday have 1 wave for 1 hour, Sunday and Friday almost always has
Reduce all the servers back down to Chronos and Naia and be done with all the low population complaints.
I think this is the most likely scenario. As soon as the numbers get low enough on Magmeld and Bartz so that they can be merged into Chronos and Naia without making it impossible to login a merger will happen. Merging Magmeld and Bartz given their server times and current populations probably doesn't make sense. Even if you ignored the server times the population on the new server would make another merger necessary in a few months.
The best thing to do is just wait a little longer until Magmeld and Bartz can be safely merged into Naia and Chronos respectively without overloading the servers.
I remeber when start in magmeld 1 tittle saying "new server" no migrations bla bla bla now for make money magmeld & bartz have population problems... now cry? is fault of ncsoft...
y wizzra 200 + 1000 bots & u are one, lithium clan all bots, dv 60% bots etc etc... this is the new l2 game for bots & donators.
Even if u merge the serv what then all the bots meet on 1 serv and do what atm it's full... every where of bots...even in town are stuck no one care :D
NCsoft dont care even if u make 2h move maby if we try a 24h maraton but even then 10% are 99 all of them bot's
Just yesterday was in pt with 1 wynn lvl 97 and he didnt knew hes skill what is "x and y" so yeah gf bot's and gf wiz(bot) u are bored of boting(meaning ur lvl 99) and now u want what more ppl so u can show ur "imba skill at pvp" yeah right even a lvl 40 char can kill 10 lvl 1 so grow up bro i find this tread verry stupid it show how **** up is L2
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I think this would be a good thing, it would really bring the competition level up to something similar to naia /chronos. but i dont think they will do this as anytime you merge servers your going to lose 20% of the population to quiting.
There is alot moer then the 2000 on both servers, just not all at the same time.. magmeld and bartz still go to medium and sometimes heavy for seige, so there is lots of players still here.