I have another questions.
U boviusoly need a Full party to kill a raid boss?
U can find RB only by the gatekeeer(instance) or you just can wait until respawn neaer of Elven Village=?
I have another questions.
U boviusoly need a Full party to kill a raid boss?
U can find RB only by the gatekeeer(instance) or you just can wait until respawn neaer of Elven Village=?
those questions are already answered, just read the event page again
One question: How to know when the boss spawns, if you are XP in a field and not be in town?
I didn't saw any message on my screen. So, all the people, have to stay at towns , waiting for the random spawn?
Isn't that bs?
There is no info that suggests there is a system message. I suspect this is because, if there is a system message, it can disrupt party and raid play (possibly division between players that want to go and those that want to stay).
There is no info that suggests there is a system message. I suspect this is because, if there is a system message, it can disrupt party and raid play (possibly division between players that want to go and those that want to stay).
OK, i understand that. But on the other hand, it is not effective, to stand afk in a town and wait when this raid will spawn.
OK, i understand that. But on the other hand, it is not effective, to stand afk in a town and wait when this raid will spawn.
If at least we knew the re-spawn time?
The spawn times were not given as public information to disclose. In Korea, players were encouraged to figure out the times personally, likely to encourage the community to work together.
The spawn times were not given as public information to disclose. In Korea, players were encouraged to figure out the times personally, likely to encourage the community to work together.
The spawn times were not given as public information to disclose. In Korea, players were encouraged to figure out the times personally, likely to encourage the community to work together.
the spawn times on naia are terrible? naia is +1gmt remember u know what time its NOW? its 23:51 for +1gmt people and not single raid has spawned on naia no offence but u need to set these timers atleast to prime times and not in middle of a ****** night where no1 can come apart from drop out school boys and **** that dont have to work cus they still live with mom n dad
i mean chronos got their raid at like wat? 13:00?(US time) when half people still at work/school?
and naia gets it prolly deeep in night when half people are kissin their pillows superb event ;)
Did these raids even spawn on naia? i walked around elven vilage when server got on and saw nothing, stayd with my char there, nathing, no information from anybody.
I guess it's another dream to ever see lilith as a raid again...plus how can you figure out respawn times if it just lasts for 2 weeks?? You'd need to be 24/7 on the pc to even come across any somewhat decent information.
There's also no info if the spawn spot is the same and how far is from the vilage, this feature is WAAY too hidden for the time it lasts.
I didn't expected those raidbosses to get a respawn like the real one. On two weeks, they will spawn like 16 times ? Not so much since all Rbs will be dead quite fast and not a lot of people will be there in time :/
We're looking into this now, and we're also waiting for additional information from headquarters.
Thank you Sace :)
I hope we don't sound too much like spoiled children. But it's quite a surprise to see no spawn during prime time when most of events are getting a boost during the same prime time
There is no info that suggests there is a system message. I suspect this is because, if there is a system message, it can disrupt party and raid play (possibly division between players that want to go and those that want to stay).
You only can get a reward once each 20hr, most people would everything they're doing to get that reward, as for party disruption no one would care to lose 10~15 min of lvling to get those nice rewards, having an announcement would help people to get rewards.
The spawn times were not given as public information to disclose. In Korea, players were encouraged to figure out the times personally, likely to encourage the community to work together.
On servers 80% clans have tons of wars, tell me how many of them are willing to help their enemy to get any reward from this event.
I want to complain, for the way you design the events.
If you are a casual player, log-in and play for 3-5 hours a day (and not every day) it looks like you are automatic disqualified from participating into such event.
I thought game events would be accessible from anyone and any time.
With the current format only non-lifers and farmers with multiple accounts log-in 24/7 can have the chance to get a reward.
For me and other casual players, i have to make a decision: Stay afk in Elven village for 4 hours, and make my pray that during that specific time m-a-y-b-e a raid spawn to get 1 chest?
At least with the old fashion events (kill mob -> event item - > event npc - > reward) you had the option of choosing how to spare your time.
Today i will go for event items for 3 hours. Tomorrow for 4 hours i will go grind.
I think there that should be announcements for when raid spawns and only awakeneds should be able to get chests (at least it numbs down the boxes), it would justify the 5 minute of the NPC and it would not be an event just for 24/7 players.
Sace, dunno if you have anything to do with the way those events are broadcasted, but you sound ridiculous and not giving any info on those rb's spawn is plain idiocy ;/
Sace, dunno if you have anything to do with the way those events are broadcasted, but you sound ridiculous and not giving any info on those rb's spawn is plain idiocy ;/
Well currently it's 8am at Seattle. You don't expect them to work in the night ? ):
I would just like to see them Spawn at all on Megmeld .. They have not done it at all ... So this realy mean we do not get 14 days of event time but 13 days so far .. and if it does not spawn after that ... 12 .. this is a crazy way to do this.. they should try to Spwan them alot all day long so we all have a chance to get the rewards .. b/c you have to wait 20 hours each account any way this give every one the chance to have fun and may get some free stuff .. I have been play this game since closed Beta.. I have never gotten a boss jewel.(othere then the one my wife just gave me. 1 week ago.) so I think it is a lil upsetting not being able to do the riads in the event b/c I have no chance to see where when or the how.. just Spawn the raid bossies for the event you have GM's that can do this we all know it. and maybe you might get a better responds from your Players.. I real do enjoy this game and I have brought a lot of my friends & family to this game in the past 9 years I have paid for the game and now play for FREE and it is still the same.... something good comes a long and I miss out again .. thank you for you time
If you are a casual player, log-in and play for 3-5 hours a day (and not every day) it looks like you are automatic disqualified from participating into such event.
There seems to be some kinda of miss-communication here.
L2 is not a game for casuals. If you aren't prepared to spend 6 hours a day every day logged in then you will get no where fast. Once you hit 95 you'll find that it's really hard in the space of 4 hours to finish every instance/daily; Kartia solo, group, fortuna, IoS dailies(2 of them) + specula boss, sos daily, GF daily, and twice a week: istina, octavus.
And if you don't have a constant group to do it with, then just forget about it, cause half the parties fail any how. Or some stupid ISS drops a 50% rez on the healer, And let me tell you that isn't a nice thing when u are 96+. Unless you enjoy losing half a lvl + the scope of which is like missing solo kartia, and sos daily + some bonus XP.
Much less trying to spend time waiting on d/c's, or looking for bosses, and port lag.
If u want a casual game this isn't it. And it's best that you don't Download, don't create a account, don't create a character, Don't log in, /uninstall.
Just cause this is free to play doesn't mean it's easy to play, unless you automate party mode.
But that doesn't mean I don't agree with whats said about the raid event, cause I didn't see 1 message all day yesterday. only some crap about lame pumpkins that get KS'd... As once again NCsoft fail team of crack using event staff still figure out drop loot priority, and last hits rules suck!!!
There seems to be some kinda of miss-communication here.
L2 is not a game for casuals. If you aren't prepared to spend 6 hours a day every day logged in then you will get no where fast.
I am talking about the event design, not the game it self.
I repeat, any event should be accessible from 1-99lvl and 24/7.
I am talking about the event design, not the game it self.
I repeat, any event should be accessible from 1-99lvl and 24/7.
No u weren't.
It's not my fault, NCsofts fault, but it is your fault if you can't log in more then 3-4 hours a day every other day.
No the raids are accessable for anyone who is awakened past lvl 86. the raids are only lvl 92. which means that lvl 99's can still hit it with out silence.
No the raids are accessable for anyone who is awakened past lvl 86. the raids are only lvl 92. which means that lvl 99's can still hit it with out silence.
I invite you to read the event page again
The raid bosses themselves don’t drop any loot, but after defeating a raid boss another NPC appears: Memorable Raid Ghost, whom you can speak to about rewards. The Ghost NPC is only there for 5 minutes, so be fast and collect your rewards quickly! Even players that didn’t participate in the killing of the raid boss can receive a reward from him.
So, hitting the RB doesn't help. Anyone can claim a box from the NPC
Raina2There seems to be some kinda of miss-communication here.
L2 is not a game for casuals. If you aren't prepared to spend 6 hours a day every day logged in then you will get no where fast.QUOTE]
Oh please, lets not start this argument again. Casuals can play the blasted game too. Living proof here. Ya, you may not be "stooper duck" and be able to roll with the big boys, but you are not precluded from playing the game. Heck, if all the casuals left, there wouldn't be that many people around, eh. "Playing" the game like its a full time job is not the way for the vast majority of players, hence why events must be catered to the wider audience, not a handfull of peeps who may decide to live in front of their computer all day.
Sorry if I came across a little strong there, not trying to get in anyone's face, just tired of this whole discussion that you have to be logged in 24/7 to enjoy a bloody game. The only reason I'm still here after 8+ years is that I didn't take the game too seriously all the time.
Anyone knows if the Kaliel's Energy, used for Talismans, are tradeable ?
I can't test tradability right now but I checked and saw that I could drop it on the ground, so I assume they're also tradable. :)
so has the event started? Cant see any boss nor npc to teleport to elven vilage.
Yes! There are raid bosses on multiple servers and the NPC is in town by the GKs. :)
Any idea if there will be a server announcement or was that a definite no from NC?
There are no plans for server announcements when a raid boss spawns.
ncsoft u must give more info about event, ve need to know what is spawn of raids it 1 day 1 week or something, its big matter. Not just drop event and enjoy. Betvean on NAIA server event wont started after maintenance
ncsoft u must give more info about event, ve need to know what is spawn of raids it 1 day 1 week or something, its big matter. Not just drop event and enjoy. Betvean on NAIA server event wont started after maintenance
I am totally fine without any information. Why spoil the fun ? Remember old Raidbosses (Orfen, QA, Anakim). You wanted them ? You had to camp for it. Same story there.
We already have a tip, which is a NPC spawning in town when the RB is up. I find that enough. The game misses hard thing, when you need dedication to do something
I am totally fine without any information. Why spoil the fun ? Remember old Raidbosses (Orfen, QA, Anakim). You wanted them ? You had to camp for it. Same story there.
We already have a tip, which is a NPC spawning in town when the RB is up. I find that enough. The game misses hard thing, when you need dedication to do something
lol its too short event to be hapy with this small info, betvean event dont works still, so be hapy with no event:)
so finaly event started, but i cant get even close to raid, even with lowest setings of game i cant even move than i still was far from raid, never had so big lag, i think its evnt bug
need a clarification on this dear NC. on event page it says "You can receive one reward bundle per Lineage II game account every 20 hours." but in game npc says every 21 hours so which one is correct?
Yes! There are raid bosses on multiple servers and the NPC is in town by the GKs. :)
If possible, I would like to know the interval of time to appear npc? mean to teleport to the elven village? I waited a long time and nothing, but we had to Shilen Server that killed Anakim, because I saw players transformed ...
need a clarification on this dear NC. on event page it says "You can receive one reward bundle per Lineage II game account every 20 hours." but in game npc says every 21 hours so which one is correct?
We'll check on this. Given that it's a 20 or 21 hour reset time for the reward bundle this will take a while to test. ><
If possible, I would like to know the interval of time to appear npc? mean to teleport to the elven village? I waited a long time and nothing, but we had to Shilen Server that killed Anakim, because I saw players transformed ...
The Raid Leader NPC appears when a raid boss appears, and that information is meant to be figured out by players. Since it just started today players will likely gather more info about the event over the weekend and maybe able to answer your question later on. :)
Now a serious suggestion, I know it has been assigned a specific place to be born raids bosses (around elven village), however, would be possible to change this location to make it more accessible.
For one thing, it turns out that already exists that players usually move the raid boss of the original spot, and kill it right away.
So it can occur the same, making it impossible for many players that come after the raid are not in place due to time and then catch your rewards.
Please take into consideration,
My suggestion for a great place for those such raids born within Coliseum.
the memorable raid npc buffer that is in all towns next to the GK changes into a direct GK to the raid when they're up.. how fast do you want them to make it for u to get there ?
And the boss has a buff which lasts for several minutes which prevents players to give out more than 500 damage on it. After that, even when zerged by a full force of top clans + heroes + at least 200 more players, it takes several minutes to die.
We'll check on this. Given that it's a 20 or 21 hour reset time for the reward bundle this will take a while to test. ><
hehe well obviously someone made a typo here cuz its either 20 or 21 hour timer :P
And the boss has a buff which lasts for several minutes which prevents players to give out more than 500 damage on it. After that, even when zerged by a full force of top clans + heroes + at least 200 more players, it takes several minutes to die.
RB get 2 buffs when they spawn, 1 is for reducing dmg and the other that increases defense by 50% and they last for 10min. while these buffs are active you barely scratch the HP on them and when the buffs run out even with full force of 200+ players on shilen took us about 15min to kill the RB. so people have at least 20+min time to get there before RB dies and get the rewards
Well, what I said earlier because I had not yet experienced the raid boss, so disregard.
But I want to share about gaining exp when each raid gives exp? the proportion of millions or billions? (The only raid that could prove been Lilith, was in party with my iss and gave me exp 0.5% and 2% in Iss)
If possible, Sace or Juji, show us how much exp each raid boss gives?
(Or should request a new one lab test about it?)
Another idea, which has annoyed me is to see a number of players camped in gk, (I could do the same, but I don't have all day to camp on the gatekeeper, of course, I have my things to do, everyday instances, etc ...), so there would be the possibility to advertise in the system messages when appear a raid.
As it was in the previous event, the Cursed Swords, when players were warned.
The spawn times were not given as public information to disclose. In Korea, players were encouraged to figure out the times personally, likely to encourage the community to work together.
But Korea has a single timezone and is presumed to have a more closeknit community per server. However I would argue that the game was designed to discourage players sharing information with each other by making raid bosses solely killable by the first group who comes across it with every other group getting their after being SOL. This gives players a huge incentive to either not share information or to propogate disinformation and and the continual implementation of raid bosses in this manner teachers players not to act as a community outside of their clan/alliance. So any event which was designed around players sharing information with each not only goes against the game's implemented design but also against the way the game taught players to act with one another.
Since this event is supposed to be based on a player's willingness to share information with other players but players have a huge incentive not to share such information and have been taught by this very game not to share such information then NCSoft acted incorrectly by designing an event which goes against how it expects and teaches players to act as it should have expected that they would not act this way or be able to change how they act within so short a period of time.
Further I would argue that on the nonKorean servers these types of events usually only happen a few times a day which are so spread out owing to the different timezones and countries of players on the server that in fact a player may either only be on during a single spawntime or may never be on when these bosses spawn. And since I have already shown why the community should never be expected to share information on spawn times it may be impossible for a player to ever be able to either be on or adjust their schedule so they will be on.
In short NC needs to design events both around how they actually expect players to act based on how they have been taught and encouraged to act and also needs to adjust events different outside of Korea to take into account that a server serves players from multiple time zones.
Log into Lineage II and play while waiting for the time when an event raid boss spawns.
When an event raid boss spawns, speak to the Memorable Raid Leader NPC by the Gatekeeper in any town.
He will teleport you to the Elven Village.
Find the raid boss outside of Elven Village. Each of the four raid bosses involved in this event is level 92, so prepare for a challenging fight! While you're there you'll get a minor debuff that transforms your armor appearance into B-Grade for reasons of nostalgia.
so this means it ONLY spawns in elven village and there is 4 of them. so far in 2 days the only one spawning i saw is anakim like 6-10 times on chronos, or at least from what i have found. where do the other spawn then?
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This message is related to the several new accounts I created to farm the event. In short I created new accounts, and I talked to the NPC to get rewards. All the new accounts I created yesterday was banned.
Don't stock new things on such accounts if you intend to farm the event :/
This message is related to the several new accounts I created to farm the event. In short I created new accounts, and I talked to the NPC to get rewards. All the new accounts I created yesterday was banned.
Don't stock new things on such accounts if you intend to farm the event :/
if that's really the case laby then NC has to ban over half of people on each server cuz of that and lots of people are at least dual boxing everyday, so normaly they would get a reward on the second account to.
so looking for a confirmation here from NC if they are going to ban people cuz of that.
We'll check on this. Given that it's a 20 or 21 hour reset time for the reward bundle this will take a while to test. ><
no need for it sace i can confirm that it is actually 21 hours. 10min ago lilith spawned on shilen so i went for the raid since 20h passed and when i tried to get the reward i got in system msg that i need to wait 1 more hour before i can claim rewards again.
This message is related to the several new accounts I created to farm the event. In short I created new accounts, and I talked to the NPC to get rewards. All the new accounts I created yesterday was banned.
Don't stock new things on such accounts if you intend to farm the event :/
Since when creating mule accounts is against the EULA? How about you guys start taking serious countermeasures against the true RMT multiboxes? :rolleyes:
This message is related to the several new accounts I created to farm the event. In short I created new accounts, and I talked to the NPC to get rewards. All the new accounts I created yesterday was banned.
Don't stock new things on such accounts if you intend to farm the event :/
If this is the case of ban,i want an officiel answer from Ncwest about this violation.Since when loading multiple clients is considered a violation?
If this is the case of ban,i want an officiel answer from Ncwest about this violation.Since when loading multiple clients is considered a violation?
I also asked the support about this one. One GM told me exactly that creating others accounts under the same physical identities is not an infraction, even with such an event. He asked me account names to check it. Let's wait, but creating more characters and dualboxing seems to be allowed still :D
One thing I didn't like in this event, is that you're forced to wait 24 hours before being able to get the new pack of boxes and transform potions. The cooldown on the rewards is 21 hours, so since raids appear at even hours, one needs to forcibly wait 3 more hours than expected.
hi, i dont know if theres any post about, but i go to make mine.
the thing is.... as main tank i hit event raids to 1k with critical, etc etc, and as dual summoner hitting 20 dmg normal 100 at critical,,,, when i saw new patch notes that wynn gonna be nerfed on raids, i think well, maybe ok, but, this "20 and 100" when tyrrs doing 15k as less dmg i think is abusive....
Wynns weren't nerfed with Glory Days... They were nerfed with Tauti.
hmm, can be, but i mean, in glory days update says wynns will give less dmg on raids, but, on event, my pets giving 20 dmg normal and 100 as critical to ant queen,,,when a tyrr is giving 15k and me as tank giving 1k crit, so, theres something wrong...
hmm, can be, but i mean, in glory days update says wynns will give less dmg on raids, but, on event, my pets giving 20 dmg normal and 100 as critical to ant queen,,,when a tyrr is giving 15k and me as tank giving 1k crit, so, theres something wrong...
The patch notes we got for the glory days update are a combination of several Korean updates which the Koreans got over at least half a year or so. And our patch notes were not particularly well proof read (see e.g. the part about the new PK penalties, where it says "From April 25th until the May 9th scheduled maintenance...", which is straight from the Korean patch notes, but of course has nothing to do with OUR scheduled maintenance here).
And some of those "new" things we here already got in small ninja updates even before the glory days update, e.g. the summoner nerf. So the information about the summoner nerf in our glory days update actually was information about something which we already HAD for some time before our glory days update.
couple things
one zombies have an advantage because if they are changed to human they can run out of town and are changed back into a zombie.
humans changed into zombies can not run somewhere to get changed back into humans.
as soon as event is over every one should be changed back to "humans" (ie not zombies that keep running around infecting people)
some of the skill re use on both zombies and humans should be reduced.
I think this can be a fun even if a few changes are made.
zombies should not be able to infect toons set up as shops. because that gets them out of shop mode.
people that created 20+ accounts for this event is nuts lvl 1 toons can collect reward on 20+ accounts should be a limit as far as age of account and lvl of toon
hmm, can be, but i mean, in glory days update says wynns will give less dmg on raids, but, on event, my pets giving 20 dmg normal and 100 as critical to ant queen,,,when a tyrr is giving 15k and me as tank giving 1k crit, so, theres something wrong...
Might you share us the lvls of the Tank/Wynn and the gear?
Cos i never ever heared about such a dmg difference.
Hey, did you guys seen Orfen appear? I'm on Shilen and only had Anakim, Lilith, then Queen Ant for 2 days, then Anakim again.
too bad i did yday on magmeld. srsly i wont see it anymore, that teleport skill was making impossible to heal pt members, all skills interrupted and no way to get out from the raid cos of too much ppl; i got stucked between all cougars for all the raid, with war coming over and over xD
Might you share us the lvls of the Tank/Wynn and the gear?
Cos i never ever heared about such a dmg difference.
tank 91 wynn 85 bothe hitting with apo cutter 300 +3
i do same in kartia 85 with wynn and hitting critz 1k to zellaka, i mean the dmg from summoners to the raid bosses from event is just a package of laughs. 20 dmg and 100 on criticals? when 1 tyrr lvl 85 in LOW R is doing around 8k Criticals?
Might you share us the lvls of the Tank/Wynn and the gear?
Cos i never ever heared about such a dmg difference.
tank 91 wynn 85 bothe hitting with apo cutter 300 +3
i do same in kartia 85 with wynn and hitting critz 1k to zellaka, i mean the dmg from summoners to the raid bosses from event is just a package of laughs. 20 dmg and 100 on criticals? when 1 tyrr lvl 85 in LOW R is doing around 8k Criticals?
The dmg that the wynn make now should be the dmg from a char lvl 40 on event raids, and, im not sure a lvl 40 char should hit so low to this raids, maybe they hit more than my pets with 500 p atack.
Now the war of botters seems begin. NCSoft should look on Naia when Raid spawns. Moving even with 150 ping is not possible for many mins and ppl stay around with names like the memorable raid npc.
Very funny. It seems high lvl ppl see too much adena go to normal ppl.
What a luck that I got already something from event but its sad for other ppl.
It is really sucks...:mad:when you want run event you must prepare the server for massive action and ppl moving. my 1st time today to enjoy this raid destroid with massive dc's !!! impossible to move,impossible to target,impossible to chat, delay 30 sec-1 min. this is unacceptable :mad:!!! i can't understand how you expect somebody to enjoy the game with all these issues and problems...
Now the war of botters seems begin. NCSoft should look on Naia when Raid spawns. Moving even with 150 ping is not possible for many mins and ppl stay around with names like the memorable raid npc.
Gl all :)
It is a very interesting event. The lag is TERRIBLE. But the 10 minute damage cap allows everyone to get to Elven Village before a bunch of 99's take it down. And I remembered the first time I targeted Memorable and it was a lv 1 character, but it's not too much to target "Memorable r" since even the craftiest players can't include a space in their names.
Shilen has a new player in Aden whose name starts with Kart! They force me to spell out the whole name. Agony. =)
It is a very interesting event. The lag is TERRIBLE. But the 10 minute damage cap allows everyone to get to Elven Village before a bunch of 99's take it down. And I remembered the first time I targeted Memorable and it was a lv 1 character, but it's not too much to target "Memorable r" since even the craftiest players can't include a space in their names.
Shilen has a new player in Aden whose name starts with Kart! They force me to spell out the whole name. Agony. =)
That my friend, is called brains, and thou does have them :D
But it's funny to see people complaining about not being able to target the npc xD
And to think that there is a function on this game specifically useful to these kinds of situation but the laziness of people always gets the best of them though.
Dear Nc, please make a better event like the one with Daco eggs or anything more usefull! I can't participate in this event at all cause I'm at work and if I'm at home, server goes down or I have a huge lag so I can't move at all (I don't have wooden PC, so its really sad that server can't handle so many ppl in same spot).
Why so abuse friendly again? If it is not bot friendly(draco event), it is abuse friendly (tersi crap). This memo event would have been very cool event with some protection...
Go make 3 ***ing tons of acc and abuse it to the max, cause the "mastermind" behind it didnt figure out its flawed, yeah! Most simple lvl protection or minimum dmg prot would have been sufficient.
Hey, what's happening with Orfen? It only spawned once in 8 days, and that was at a bad hour (at least for me). Any clue if it will have a day of its own? Because we had again Anakim, Lilith and now Queen Ant... but no Orfen yet.
+1 THIS TEXT, become a nolifer and have lotz of email adresses to make 101010101010101 accounds with lv1 chars like Tersi event back then , same problem over again , thousends of lv1 chars at the event raid / massive Bsoes and transform scrolls for the mature gamers while the thousend logged in lv1 toons get pendants and all the other good stuff.
Sace how about designing Gameguard this way: only 3 Clients per IP or even 2 game Clients are enough.
no men or women needs to have more then 2 accounds being logged in , well thats for the Legit players of us :p
/win for decreaseing Lag/abusage of Events/killing massive 3rd party software running partys ran by 1 Person this is a /win win win suggestion
That would not work considering there are households where multiple people play the game. If they cannot open more than 2 clients per IP, it would ruin gaming for families.
i have mixed feelings about this event. At one hand, i like the fact that i can buy some pendnats 1/10 of their price before the event (if i had bought one before i wouldn't be :) ). On the other hand, i cannot participate in the event. The idea of old RBs and good rewards is awsome, but the fact that it can be abused, exploited or hatever, is dissapointing. I went to Elven Village twice, set my options to minimum but still couldn't move, so i left emptyhanded.
At least the 100kk for a WIT pendand and 50kk for MEN was somehow rewarding...
I don't know why all of you randoms are crying. Nothing is stopping you from using old box accounts or making new toons (OMG you have to make an extra gmail account, ohhhh the horror!). I do this event with 21 toons and 3 clients, and there is no need to "no-life" it. You could do 7 when you wake up, 7 when you come home from work, and another 7 before you go to sleep. That will take about 20 min out of your day, so not really a big deal. Just have macros to target the npc and you're all set. Instead of crying, you should show some initiative by going out there and making yourself some extra money.
I don't know why all of you randoms are crying. Nothing is stopping you from using old box accounts or making new toons (OMG you have to make an extra gmail account, ohhhh the horror!). I do this event with 21 toons and 3 clients, and there is no need to "no-life" it. You could do 7 when you wake up, 7 when you come home from work, and another 7 before you go to sleep. That will take about 20 min out of your day, so not really a big deal. Just have macros to target the npc and you're all set. Instead of crying, you should show some initiative by going out there and making yourself some extra money.
people will always cry for something, event of halloween: 'QQ only high lvl ppl can do it', raid boss event 'QQ also lvl 1 can do it'.
wtf, even if i log 100 boxs at day i can get reward 1 time at day with each box, while events like draco eggs was farmed from low lvl tons botted 24/7, 10 of those tons could get way more reward in 24h than with the raid event.
ive 24chars for the raid, since when started i got 5 pendants, selling the ones i dont need i dont really get a lot of money cos price are low now, so stop QQ that rtm bot farm the event, cos they dont, they keep their chars in bot (everywhere) 24/7 and get more money then try to get a pendant and TRY to resell it, cos idk in other servers, but on magmeld you wont sell a pendant beside if isnt the m.atk one.
all the lvl 1 chars are from people that just made multiple accounts and is ur fault if u dont take advantage of the event.
QA minions killing the lvl1 toons is priceless :p i mean isnt funny for t owner but t field is covered by hundreds of corpses look like a nice medieval battle.
seriously sum guys abuse a lil too much with chars named "eventraid120,121,122" etc on and on omg do they rly made 100+ toons for this? :confused::eek:
yes, on Naia when the server crashed 2+k chars were at the event raid and of those prolly only 300 were active players so yeah..
also if you can make 25+ chars for free and having a chance on get pendands/kaliels which you can sell for 100+mil each who wouldn't farm the event eh..
even during yesterdays anthy raid we had clan members farming the event even thou they knew it could crash the server and causing us as a clan to fail the raid..
in L2 greed/scamming is a honor badge and as such Koreans are way more civilized people then our player base will ever be..
Man, you guys are making me sad. Not because of the event or anything, but because on Bartz maybe 200-250 people show up for the event even at primetime. That includes AFK loot characters as well.
i cant move on this event, my friend have the same conection line and he dont use battleping and can move w/o problems , i specialy installed new window's to fix , i use battleping and i wont help , pleas send me solution if you know
I don't know why all of you randoms are crying. Nothing is stopping you from using old box accounts or making new toons (OMG you have to make an extra gmail account, ohhhh the horror!). I do this event with 21 toons and 3 clients, and there is no need to "no-life" it. You could do 7 when you wake up, 7 when you come home from work, and another 7 before you go to sleep. That will take about 20 min out of your day, so not really a big deal. Just have macros to target the npc and you're all set. Instead of crying, you should show some initiative by going out there and making yourself some extra money.
I'm not sure how you are pulling that off, you can only collect rewards every 20 hrs per account, not every 20 hrs per toon on the same account... which means 1 set of rewards for each of your 3 accounts.
This event is awesome only thing that would make it better if the char that is going to recieve rewards had to be 40 or 50 or something so there were so many lvl one chars running around although i would like to see a char from a dark castle pk them all right before raid spawns that would be great
I'm not sure how you are pulling that off, you can only collect rewards every 20 hrs per account, not every 20 hrs per toon on the same account... which means 1 set of rewards for each of your 3 accounts.
He never said that he used 3 accounts, he said 3 clients..
The 21 toons that he uses are obviously on 21 different accounts.
With no viable way to limit how many accounts a person can have, of course there will be people who will create multiple accounts. I believe NCSoft Korea has you link your accounts to a social security number. I think this migration to a new account system will probably solve that, I don't know. But, until that, don't blame NCSoft nor ask them to upgrade their servers to hold more people. If they upgrade, then what's to stop more people logging on with 100 accounts at the same time? Blame the Email providers for giving out free Email accounts without even frequently checking to see if the account is being used for Email or just to verify proof of identity. I believe it is not cost effective to maintain or upgrade something that is fast approaching it's shelf life. I can probably guess that the L2 financial dept of NCSoft have to pull in more than the operating cost in revenue to warrant an upgrade. And I do mean MORE than the operating cost. Remember, it's not really your money that they are gambling with, even though you contribute a few dollars into the ingame shop.
Nothing you can do but to tell everyone who has a billion accounts to farm events to stop so your gameplay experience would improve.
This event is awesome only thing that would make it better if the char that is going to recieve rewards had to be 40 or 50 or something so there were so many lvl one chars running around although i would like to see a char from a dark castle pk them all right before raid spawns that would be great
i dont think u understand ;P
Dark castle means other people can PK HIM without any karma
people who are in clan WHO OWNS a dark castle cant go around pking :P
Dark castle means other people can PK HIM without any karma
people who are in clan WHO OWNS a dark castle cant go around pking :P
trust me if we could pk freely we would clear out elven village everytime the raid spawned.. but you're naive to think we would stop at only those lvl1 farm chars..
Game lags/gg errors/server activitys stop 2 times during playing hours atleast to start loading toons that they will dc...And all these for what?
This event made worthless to play L2 and i describe you how:
1 friend loging 3 clients 2 times per day got so far around 10 pendants worthing 600m-1.2b each,so by not having to invest any adena he made total profit around 8b so far.Other friend gets 4-5 pendants and a necklace of lilith and a bottle of aq.While the rest of us all these days get bsoe,total profit for us=1kk.By this event,Ncwest randomly made some players ''rich'' and i dont mean only the usual botters that use their bottrains on events too.Where does the effort and the skills of a player to get into higher lvl and achieve some goal ingame through clan/good constant raid hunting,personal efforts on making adena goes,when an event comes to leave him ''broke'' comparing to the ones that suddenly without any effort get ''loaded''?After such events,why players to do anything ingame(to get some ear maybe?),all they need to do is look every month on L2 site and when similar event comes create dozens of accounts,if they get lucky and get loaded, gear their toon and start oly and pvp,if not maybe some other month then.
Result of this=game gets so crowded during event real players are suffering and so deserted after event,real players dont know why they still log.
if ncsoft dont do events people QQ cos want event.
if ncsoft make event with lvl (like the one of halloween) people QQ cos low lvls cant do it.
if ncsoft make an event farmable (like draco event) people QQ cos bots will keep trains farm event.
now is turn of this, already reward is 1 time each 21h (so 1 time at day x account), everyone can make more than 1 account for farm it, is a personal choise to dont do it.
while farm draco eggs was boring and i can understand why many people didnt cared to 'farm' that event, log some accounts 1 time at day is not a big deal, so again, is personal choise.
is like i QQ cos some people have alts for farm seeds in soa, im lazy for do it, so i prefer buy the crystals, but is my choise do dont use an alt and everyday farm those seeds, counting that price is +/- 6/7kk each. this means everyone dont have to farm seeds? comon, im sure farm them everyday give more money than an event for few days.
Her point was not that people can "farm" the event or not, farming seeds does not bring over 2 billions to your pocket in 1 day wether you're a rich or poor guy.
The point is that farming can become obsolete in L2. Some newcomers have made more adena in the past 1 week than i made in the last year i played tbh.
I think the issue is not so much the rewards but it's how these items are not suplied enough to begin with, pendants went from one of the rarest items, to the most suplied in a matter of 1 day and this brings up the point: why are certain items so rare to begin with if they're planned to be injected like ants some months later?
I still remember when adena was capped at 2,147b...and now some newbies make that in a day. Again, it proves that the game relys more on luck than effort.
Any event that provides access to rewards to level 1 characters that need to do nothing, just stand there is idiotic in concept. No effort or skill required. Don't blame the players when they call the company "bot loving". NC Soft's history is so burdened with such actions that it is very hard to shake off this feeling from players.
Does it really make any difference for you that a newbie will be able to afford a twilight set? Of course some guys got loads of luck but so could you, new items appear in game, adena is flowing, people gear up. It made pendants affordable AND what is most important I am pretty sure it Decrases the number of people buying adena from internet sites, as people don't need buying adena anymore.
Plus if you are an experienced player you'll beat them up anyway, just don't worry about being out of luck and wait for another chance :)
Wouldn't be no problem with these events. If the NCwest would finally maximalize the boxes from 1 PC/IP to 2-3 boxes.
As this is work in Korea too.
Cryo has right, that the dual boxing in the Lineage 2 is a tradition, but dual boxing doesn't mean, that a player have to be able to login with 4-100 boxes from a PC.
Normally a skilled Lineage 2 players can control in same time 1-3 boxes.
So I really vote or wish to maximalize the dual boxing to 2 or 3. This would help on these events and against partly the cheaters too.
Wouldn't be no problem with these events. If the NCwest would finally maximalize the boxes from 1 PC/IP to 2-3 boxes.
As this is work in Korea too.
Cryo has right, that the dual boxing in the Lineage 2 is a tradition, but dual boxing doesn't mean, that a player have to be able to login with 4-100 boxes from a PC.
Normally a skilled Lineage 2 players can control in same time 1-3 boxes.
So I really vote or wish to maximalize the dual boxing to 2 or 3. This would help on these events and against partly the cheaters too.
the ppl that login 15+ clients are not doing it with an "official" client just a fyi cause your suggestion only works for those who play/access the game legitly..
the ppl that login 15+ clients are not doing it with an "official" client just a fyi cause your suggestion only works for those who play/access the game legitly..
Which brings up the point...why aren't measures taken to prevent this?
There's such a high policy about sharing accounts and modifying client (just on textures for example which does not in any way affect gameplay) and yet these lvl 1 events just "beg" people to go beyond the clients limits and exploit it all the way.
And dont take me wrong, i like the " kill raid = get reward", but limitations would help.
it's incredibly stupid that anyone can receive a reward just by talking to the raid npc; it's only NCsoft who can't figure out how this can be abused.
(How about level restrictions? nah it's rocket science!)
Raids are supposed to be rewarding only to those who actually does something at the raid; anything else just makes no sense.
Important point #2:
due to the excessive number of players at those raids, some NPC (Olympiad managers, for example) either stop working or lag for minutes when the memorable raid takes place during the server peak hours.
This also helps us realize how weak and obsolete NCwest's server hardware is.
it's incredibly stupid that anyone can receive a reward just by talking to the raid npc; it's only NCsoft who can't figure out how this can be abused.
(How about level restrictions? nah it's rocket science!)
Raids are supposed to be rewarding only to those who actually does something at the raid; anything else just makes no sense.
Important point #2:
due to the excessive number of players at those raids, some NPC (Olympiad managers, for example) either stop working or lag for minutes when the memorable raid takes place during the server peak hours.
This also helps us realize how weak and obsolete NCwest's server hardware is.
its not the hardware thats obsolete, its the software.
client and maybe npc server client side also?
this comes from forever. i noticed long ago during sieges.
with a toon in castle everythign was frozen. only some toons moving around every 2, 3 min. while at the same time on same connection and same pc i had another toon in town moving around just fine. And even better, i could pm the toon in town from the one in the siege ground and i would get the pm instantly while it took minutes to show the pm i sent back in the window at the siege.
code might not be optimum to handle siege like traffic and all the process it requires(nothing about graphics) and its creating a bottleneck witch we see in this event and sieges.
Game lags/gg errors/server activitys stop 2 times during playing hours atleast to start loading toons that they will dc...And all these for what?
This event made worthless to play L2 and i describe you how:
1 friend loging 3 clients 2 times per day got so far around 10 pendants worthing 600m-1.2b each,so by not having to invest any adena he made total profit around 8b so far.Other friend gets 4-5 pendants and a necklace of lilith and a bottle of aq.While the rest of us all these days get bsoe,total profit for us=1kk.By this event,Ncwest randomly made some players ''rich'' and i dont mean only the usual botters that use their bottrains on events too.Where does the effort and the skills of a player to get into higher lvl and achieve some goal ingame through clan/good constant raid hunting,personal efforts on making adena goes,when an event comes to leave him ''broke'' comparing to the ones that suddenly without any effort get ''loaded''?After such events,why players to do anything ingame(to get some ear maybe?),all they need to do is look every month on L2 site and when similar event comes create dozens of accounts,if they get lucky and get loaded, gear their toon and start oly and pvp,if not maybe some other month then.
Result of this=game gets so crowded during event real players are suffering and so deserted after event,real players dont know why they still log.
WOAH those are a lot of tears bro. Holy Jesus, wtf is up with you people? This is one of the greatest events in the history of L2, it's just awesome and anyone can take advantage of it. Who gets "rich" is really no different than in any other event. Look at Draco, in theory you could open thousands of boxes and get some good stuff, but still not be "rich." Some other dude could open 1 box and get a trasken, but everyone still had a shot at something, and there was plenty of money to be made.
The problem is not the level, it's the creation of new accounts itself. Anyone can freely created tons of accounts and log bunch of clients ingame, with or without illegal means.
As Laby says .. its the free creation of accounts and not so much the lvl requirement to participate ..
If they'd start charging a small fee for *creating* a game-account this will help to a certain extend .. but also this wouldn't be a ultimate solution.
One of yesterday Queen Ants was quite an adventure as the zerg of people was just standing there and hoping that *someone* will kill the boss while ant minions were ****** everyone. Well, seeing all those people lying on the ground and begging for rez was good, hope this served them well :)
Chance is that some of them were even lv 1-40 toons, so asking for brez was ****... Just click to village and suffer the pain of moving past the bridge, like everyone else does!
Everytime there is an event people cry. If there isn't an event, people cry.
The only way to make it fair to everyone is to not have a lvl restriction on them. How would you feel if there was an event for say only 95+ characters. Wold make you feel pretty ****** because you couldn't participate unless you were 95.
So cry on, cry about how unfair events are. Personally, if I was NCSoft, I would just take the events away because you are all acting like spoiled children.
The real problem the boxes cause is the risk of the server going down (and it just happened to Naia). Lag is provided by too many toons transformed/using skills/soulshots and cape animations.
If the stupid lv 1 toons would just stop randomly using the transformation potions, the lag would be slightly more bearable. Ever wondered why, after the memorable soul npc spawns, the lag is frequently suddenly gone?
Reread my post, then go back to your cave. I am not comparing a 95 to a lvl 1, I'm just saying that regardless of how they do the events, people will cry.
Now whether the event only allows 95s to participate, or allows everyone to participate is a different story. In the whole scheme of things, in order to keep 'fairness' NCSoft must allow everyone, including freshly created lvl 1's to participate.
Or there will be more people crying, and people like you complaining about how 'unfair' NCSoft is.
Does it really make any difference for you that a newbie will be able to afford a twilight set? Of course some guys got loads of luck but so could you, new items appear in game, adena is flowing, people gear up. It made pendants affordable AND what is most important I am pretty sure it Decrases the number of people buying adena from internet sites, as people don't need buying adena anymore.
-You dont have a clue how many bilions per week certain players spend for their toons and i dont mean the top players.
-Newbies dont need 10bilions from lucky boxes to buy a tw set.
-Certain items by being rare to get were puting a line between the old player with knowledge of game who understoond which items were most urgent to get first with his few bilions and the noob player who makes a toon in 1 week and knows nothing about what is evasion or the differece between patak and critical dmg.L2 was supposed to be a game where you ''evolve'' into higher lvls/stats/expirience by trying hard,if randoms with luck get more than endgame players,where is L2 ?
Boxes should be by grade and gifted regarding char grade.
So, no one will farm D-grade crap... or few real players.
And other ppl will come on their main to get better box and this will cause more pvp and fun...
WOAH those are a lot of tears bro. Holy Jesus, wtf is up with you people? This is one of the greatest events in the history of L2, it's just awesome and anyone can take advantage of it. Who gets "rich" is really no different than in any other event. Look at Draco, in theory you could open thousands of boxes and get some good stuff, but still not be "rich." Some other dude could open 1 box and get a trasken, but everyone still had a shot at something, and there was plenty of money to be made.
I know the people that got trasken and they were opening 10.000 boxes per day all days of event to get it.
I know the people that got trasken and they were opening 10.000 boxes per day all days of event to get it.
Na, nice try though. There were people opening thousands, and a couple of them got one, but there were others that opened relatively few and got one. It's the randomness factor of it. Smartest people just sold the boxes and brought what they wanted.
Na, nice try though. There were people opening thousands, and a couple of them got one, but there were others that opened relatively few and got one. It's the randomness factor of it. Smartest people just sold the boxes and brought what they wanted.
By relatively few what number you mean?
If you mean someone in 1 server got the wymn ring in the 3d day of event and only opened 30k boxes(along with many other things to sell for cool money like the draco's heal pots),this doesnt mean that on previous events big reward was given randomly on a newbie who opened his 10 boxes,like it was happening on Memorable raid event.On all other events for big stuff either you would illegaly reach really high score of event items(and this also needs some ''knowledge'' to make),or you should have adena to invest on buying/opening.
If you mean someone in 1 server got the wymn ring in the 3d day of event and only opened 30k boxes(along with many other things to sell for cool money like the draco's heal pots),this doesnt mean that on previous events big reward was given randomly on a newbie who opened his 10 boxes,like it was happening on Memorable raid event.On all other events for big stuff either you would illegaly reach really high score of event items(and this also needs some ''knowledge'' to make),or you should have adena to invest on buying/opening.
Dude, it's Korean random. You can open a million and get crap, and I can open 1 and get the grand prize. Same as lottery IRL, sure you up your odds the more you play, but plenty of times the guy that spends 50 bucks a week never wins and a guy that randomly plays hits big.
What great knowledge does it take to farm the other events? Make a buy shop for eggs and then write a two line script to open them? At least this event people can up their odds fairly well without needing 3rd pty programs (sure some are using OOG programs to load a ton of toons, but at least most people can jam in 6 or 7 toons every few hours without the need of a program).
Everytime there is an event people cry. If there isn't an event, people cry.
The only way to make it fair to everyone is to not have a lvl restriction on them. How would you feel if there was an event for say only 95+ characters. Wold make you feel pretty ****** because you couldn't participate unless you were 95.
So cry on, cry about how unfair events are. Personally, if I was NCSoft, I would just take the events away because you are all acting like spoiled children.
Well said.. There are always going to be people that abuse every event.. Some people are going to be luckier than others and some people will cheat to abuse the event as well. You cannot please everyone and they cannot make all these events "fair".
I dislike this event for reasons of my own, and maybe they could have done it differently. This is the event we have so just work with it or don't participate. It is just ridiculous that there are masses of people criticizing each event. Calling someone stupid because of their opinion is just childish.
Personally, my problem is not with player level but the "doing nothing" part. This is supposed to be an event. In events players usually need to do some actions in order to get some rewards. What are the actions needed for this event, other than standing there idle? What is the concept of this event?
If NC wanted such an easy event, they could have made the NPC that appear in town to hand out rewards to whomever spoke to them; no need to port to Elven Village.
Dude, it's Korean random. You can open a million and get crap, and I can open 1 and get the grand prize. Same as lottery IRL, sure you up your odds the more you play, but plenty of times the guy that spends 50 bucks a week never wins and a guy that randomly plays hits big.
What great knowledge does it take to farm the other events?
I have to remind you that on previous good events,all players that were playing were doing atleast 100m per event by just xping and joining a farm party in towns 2-3 times.The more active ones and those who had the knowledge to really farm the event(putting partys to various locations) and/or were investing their money on buying boxes to open,ofc were doing billions and billions.Korean random existed on those events too,but since the grand prize was like 1-2 items in whole server,even if a noobie got 1 grand prize wouldnt affect anyone,if more noobies striked by korean random and got the medium rewards,again it wouldnt affect anyone,since the other players WERE making money by participating into farm partys or doing the market and could buy those rewards.
Korean random was abused on this memorable event by giving out billions to random accounts that did nothing else than be online,leaving all other players with ~40 bsoe/10 transf scrolls/6 low dyes= NOTHING.
Korean random wouldnt destroy economy balance on income from game between players if it striked on lets say 1 lottery with 100m once in a while,but giving out to 100 players or more suddenly 10+ billions for nothing and discluding all other players from the rewards of event(because that's what we got )it is unfair event that what it is.Next event will be what?randomly 100 accounts selected by ncwest that will get 10billions gift for 2013?
Reread my post, then go back to your cave. I am not comparing a 95 to a lvl 1, I'm just saying that regardless of how they do the events, people will cry.
Now whether the event only allows 95s to participate, or allows everyone to participate is a different story. In the whole scheme of things, in order to keep 'fairness' NCSoft must allow everyone, including freshly created lvl 1's to participate.
Or there will be more people crying, and people like you complaining about how 'unfair' NCSoft is.
is not about that, c'mon don't tra la la please.
it's about giving the reward/account, this is what about ppl should debate.
this was totaly wrong.
i saw toons of trains geting out of museum on "fallow" and start laughing as an idiot because the funny site is there was about 10 chars lvl 1, i repeat, on "fallow" and those chars were all the races from when he could do only elf which eveyone knows they have the biggest "dex" so the biggest speed :D