what about the GameGuard error when opening multiple clients? are we gonna get a fix for that soon or i need to spend 20+minute everyday to log my enchanter?
what about the GameGuard error when opening multiple clients? are we gonna get a fix for that soon or i need to spend 20+minute everyday to log my enchanter?
Please submit a support ticket (https://lineage2.custhelp.com/app/ask/) for this issue.
For those who get an Gameguard Update Error when dualboxing, try to do the following thing if you use Windows Firewall
(I translate french terms from Windows 7, excuse me if some words are wrong)
1 - Open the Configuration Panel
2 - Choose "Display by small icons"
3 - Go to Windows Firewall
4 - On the left menu, choose the link "Add a program or a functionality through the Windows Firewall
5 - Choose "Add an other program"
6 - Click on Browse and allow those two files : \Lineage II\system\GameGuard.des and \Lineage II\system\Gameguard\GameMon.des. If the browse windows doesn't display those files, start to write in the box the beginning of the file, Windows should propose you the right file
7 - Before validating with OK after choosing the application, click on "Type of Network emplacement" and choose Private AND Public
8 - Close the control panel, Launch Lineage 2 again and tell me if it does work
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With one client already in game, 2nd client opened had error, left it, 3rd client open worked...
LOL so our 2 week event is now only 12 days and a waste of time the past 2 day of no Exp is going to work out great thanks NC.. and hope you do not burn in hell over all the dumb stuff you do to your players all the time with out witch you have no job YAY
Ok so you all are going over all other issues.... What about one BIG issue the energies and the marks... The marks not being there in a sense robs people of Instances because not worth it with out the exp the marks give.... GJ PEOPLE!!! I believe US the players should get some sort of compensation for all the screw ups lately!!!
I guess what I am saying Juji and to the other GM.. Is that Take some pride in the work you do and have some fun with you players.. the events you get from Korea .. Should be made or fixed to accommodate the way your players play the game here in NC Soft West .. You guys have to Know we love to play the Game alot or we would not take the time and Post our Complants or call you offices at 206-588-7200 or 512-498-4000 we just want you all at NC to know we are wanting you guys to make our Game play better or at less better then it has been in the past. We do care about you guys and I for one like the job your trying to do but it seems like you guys and gals are give up a lil bit on us.. Good Luck and hope you guys and gals keep trying to do better by your Players
For those who get an Gameguard Update Error when dualboxing, try to do the following thing if you use Windows Firewall
(I translate french terms from Windows 7, excuse me if some words are wrong)
1 - Open the Configuration Panel
2 - Choose "Display by small icons"
3 - Go to Windows Firewall
4 - On the left menu, choose the link "Add a program or a functionality through the Windows Firewall
5 - Choose "Add an other program"
6 - Click on Browse and allow those two files : \Lineage II\system\GameGuard.des and \Lineage II\system\Gameguard\GameMon.des. If the browse windows doesn't display those files, start to write in the box the beginning of the file, Windows should propose you the right file
7 - Before validating with OK after choosing the application, click on "Type of Network emplacement" and choose Private AND Public
8 - Close the control panel, Launch Lineage 2 again and tell me if it does work
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With one client already in game, 2nd client opened had error, left it, 3rd client open worked...
There is not firewall, os, software can fix it, just tell the "idiot" who manage the gameguard servers (or file who pick updates) update all to v 1909 done.
U know what happens ? when u open first client download lasted gameguard v1909, them when you open second download a older version v 1865. I say again there no software or tweak you can do to your pc.
There is not firewall, os, software can fix it, just tell the "idiot" who manage the gameguard servers update all to v 1909 done.
U know what happens ? when u open first client download lasted gameguard v1909, them when you open second download a older version v 1865. I say again there no software or tweak you can do to your pc.
Well if it's the case I think we can again blame NCSoft ? :)
i turn off all virus scanner/firewalls cus they suck make your pc slow and only ********* get a virus :P never had problem in like 5?6years not using any of this kind of crap
There is not firewall, os, software can fix it, just tell the "idiot" who manage the gameguard servers (or file who pick updates) update all to v 1909 done.
U know what happens ? when u open first client download lasted gameguard v1909, them when you open second download a older version v 1865. I say again there no software or tweak you can do to your pc.
Finally somebody with some brains.
I am getting so annoyed here with people saying add exception rules to youre firewall and contact support.The error is in the files. Open your processes and open a few clients while watching what GG files do...you will see gamemon.des and gameguard.des open and gameguard.des closes and after a few clients gameguard.des when inspecting the client hangs and you get the GG error and if you look into your taskbar the GG version is no longer the same
please tell me how contacting support can fix this on MY end? yeah ok
Finally somebody with some brains.
I am getting so annoyed here with people saying add exception rules to youre firewall and contact support.The error is in the files. Open your processes and open a few clients while watching what GG files do...you will see gamemon.des and gameguard.des open and gameguard.des closes and after a few clients gameguard.des when inspecting the client hangs and you get the GG error and if you look into your taskbar the GG version is no longer the same
please tell me how contacting support can fix this on MY end? yeah ok
Well, sorry to be without a brain and trying few things which can do nothing but help. It worked wonderfully at some point this afternoon, or I just got lucky and I was able to launch 5 client simultaneously without this problem.
I'm not the type of waiting a fix and doing nothing. If I can do anything, I will try
Well, sorry to be without a brain and trying few things which can do nothing but help. It worked wonderfully at some point this afternoon, or I just got lucky and I was able to launch 5 client simultaneously without this problem.
I'm not the type of waiting a fix and doing nothing. If I can do anything, I will try
Its not directed at you, dont take it personally i like that you actually bothered to try help instead of spamming "contact support" but the problem is in the files
Sometimes you can open many clients and sometimes you cant even open a 2nd one. Its gameguard.des hanging as the client opens to scan it and it compeltely screws up gamemon.des to the point where you have to close every single NCsoft process and start over or you will just keep getting the error.
There is not firewall, os, software can fix it, just tell the "idiot" who manage the gameguard servers (or file who pick updates) update all to v 1909 done.
U know what happens ? when u open first client download lasted gameguard v1909, them when you open second download a older version v 1865. I say again there no software or tweak you can do to your pc.
Strange, I always get 1865, even after I delete Gameguard folder... How can i get the 1909 ?
How is it about u move ur *** finnally in there and u start doing some work instead of pointing fingers to others?
u cannot fix a ***** **** in there .. always last years u do same **** nothing changed.. Every time u try to fix something... something else is getting ****** when u will understand that its ur fault doing all this ****?
How is it about u move ur *** finnally in there and u start doing some work instead of pointing fingers to others?
u cannot fix a ***** **** in there .. always last years u do same **** nothing changed.. Every time u try to fix something... something else is getting ****** when u will understand that its ur fault doing all this ****?
i think some 1 is ****** off LOL
This gameguard before the update was not the problem now is that we take advantage and ask who are using it with him or without him learn to circumvent the people and using illegal programs and sometimes not even need to ridicule him.
This GameGuard is a joke! More or less causing problems, It's a sheity program sending information over ICMP package and antivirus software's hate it, firewalls hate it, players hate it, every accept NC soft likes it?! Still cheaters circumvent it and are going to continue to cheat.
There is no real valid reason for have this piece of software installer and incorporated with a game.
I was told by the support to do some manipulations (resetting Winsock to default as example). I does it, It seems it doesn't work better. I tell it, and the next answer I get is "We don't provide support for this type of configuration"
Are you kidding me NCSoft support, you told me to do something to tell me after I did it that you don't provide any support for this configuration ? Good way to get rid of problems :/
lol I don't care the why, I just need it to work; I have now two working clients up I will use them as is 24/7 till they crash lolol. laby solution work for me and some clannies so w/e
I can't login in game, Gameguard errors, thanks
Same here.:( Why NCSoft still needs this ****, if it`s not doing anything good? The servers are still full of bots and the players are sick of it.
Juji, do you know if Spezion epic instance has been changed or not ? Yesterday our pt died and got ported to outside. After resurrected, we were not allow to come back in as it shows in /instancezone command that we've done spezion epic. We used to be able to re-enter and finish the instance before.
For those who get an Gameguard Update Error when dualboxing, try to do the following thing if you use Windows Firewall
(I translate french terms from Windows 7, excuse me if some words are wrong)
1 - Open the Configuration Panel
2 - Choose "Display by small icons"
3 - Go to Windows Firewall
4 - On the left menu, choose the link "Add a program or a functionality through the Windows Firewall
5 - Choose "Add an other program"
6 - Click on Browse and allow those two files : \Lineage II\system\GameGuard.des and \Lineage II\system\Gameguard\GameMon.des. If the browse windows doesn't display those files, start to write in the box the beginning of the file, Windows should propose you the right file
7 - Before validating with OK after choosing the application, click on "Type of Network emplacement" and choose Private AND Public
8 - Close the control panel, Launch Lineage 2 again and tell me if it does work
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With one client already in game, 2nd client opened had error, left it, 3rd client open worked...
Didn't solve anything. Even excluding L2 dir in AV, as like in H5, doesn't work. It's faulty design because of edits for Win8.
I think the best solution, like back in High5 is to install a cracked Gameguard again, contact support for doing so and roll with it till GG is fully fixed again.
Just thought I would share my game guard error solution. I delete my cookies, history, and temp internet files and that usually solves my problems. I'm not sure if this is just a coincidence but it works for me!
Consider some kind of ingame announcement about spawn times of those rb's: give some time zone info, add +-2hours variable in it, make things civilized
Sace has there been any detail into fixing the gameguard errors or are we going to keep getting them even after this maintinence ( and probably many more after).
Sace has there been any detail into fixing the gameguard errors or are we going to keep getting them even after this maintinence ( and probably many more after).
No; if there were other fixes they would be listed in the maintenance notice. From the previous fix released for Windows 8 users we've seen that the majority of cases have been resolved, but that a few players are still seeing issues. If you are still seeing issues please contact support for tracking and assistance.
No; if there were other fixes they would be listed in the maintenance notice. From the previous fix released for Windows 8 users we've seen that the majority of cases have been resolved, but that a few players are still seeing issues. If you are still seeing issues please contact support for tracking and assistance.
Considering several support answers, including one I got myself, can we officially declare that NCSoft doesn't support dual boxing (i.e. the fact to have more than one lineage 2 client launched) ?
Just quoting the answers I had from the support :
Unfortunately, we are not able to provide assistance for this type of configuration. While we do not prohibit players from using Lineage II in this manner, we do not offer support for it's configuration either. If you are having this issue when running a single client, please let us know.
As for the few players, I would like to get some help regarding the word "few" itself. How many people could it contains ? (no irony there, I am not used to all english words).
18 people in my clan have this issue. 7 friends which are not in my clan have this issues aswell. From what I could read, several users on the forum has it too.
No; if there were other fixes they would be listed in the maintenance notice. From the previous fix released for Windows 8 users we've seen that the majority of cases have been resolved, but that a few players are still seeing issues. If you are still seeing issues please contact support for tracking and assistance.
So what you're saying is NCSoft has not even acknowledged the gameguard errors as a problem. Great, wonderful, fantastic.
Have you even noticed how many players can no longer open even just 2 measly clients? Threads upon threads of them, with many people claiming to all have the same problem.
Hate to break it to you, but its more than a few. And I'm don't know about everyone else, but I cannot level a character with just 1 client when this game requires at least 2.
Considering several support answers, including one I got myself, can we officially declare that NCSoft doesn't support dual boxing (i.e. the fact to have more than one lineage 2 client launched) ?
As for the few players, I would like to get some help regarding the word "few" itself. How many people could it contains ? (no irony there, I am not used to all english words).
18 people in my clan have this issue. 7 friends which are not in my clan have this issues aswell. From what I could read, several users on the forum has it too.
So what you're saying is NCSoft has not even acknowledged the gameguard errors as a problem. Great, wonderful, fantastic.
Have you even noticed how many players can no longer open even just 2 measly clients? Threads upon threads of them, with many people claiming to all have the same problem.
Hate to break it to you, but its more than a few. And I'm don't know about everyone else, but I cannot level a character with just 1 client when this game requires at least 2.
Posting that we know there are players having issues means that it is certainly officially recognized. The data I've been given shows that 80% of the tickets/cases with Gameguard issues were resolved after the last fix. That leaves 20% of tickets/case that have been reported. Likely some players have issues still but have not reported them; unfortunately it is difficult to track how many players have this issue if they don't send a ticket.
At this time there are no additional maintenance-related fixes to Gameguard, but that doesn't mean there won't be more in the future. For now we treat this somewhat as a new issue, as those players still affected may have different setups that are causing the persistent problems. That various players are saying this is now only occurring when trying to open multiple clients is definitely a separate issue than the problem that prevented any client at all from being opened. That is why it helps for players to send a ticket: the data of their situation is recorded and gathered info can then lead to a new, refined fix being requested.
That various players are saying this is now only occurring when trying to open multiple clients is definitely a separate issue than the problem that prevented any client at all from being opened. That is why it helps for players to send a ticket: the data of their situation is recorded and gathered info can then lead to a new, refined fix being requested.
The support is refusing to help us by anyway regarding this concern (opening multiple clients) and doesn't even ask us Game Advisor report or HijackThis report. What are we supposed to do then ?
The only problem with sending in a ticket to your so called 'support' is they don't care about multiboxing clients. People have quotes from their tickets saying essentialy we don't care about if you can't run 2 clients, contact us if you can't even run 1. Then we'll help.
That has been their answer. So of course when people see that they are not going to send in a ticket, why would they when they are going to get a slap in the face.
The fix you are talking about is to people opening single clients. And the fix implemented to gameguard has now screwed over many of your current players because we cannot multibox to level.
The support is refusing to help us by anyway regarding this concern (opening multiple clients) and doesn't even ask us Game Advisor report or HijackThis report. What are we supposed to do then ?
We have directly requested that support inform us how many tickets there are about these issues and what the related OSes are. I understand that they may not be able to help in the sense that we do not currently have additional fixes or advice for the ticket writers, but support is not "refusing to help". (If ticket literally says something like this, please PM me the ticket number.)
Edit: Support for multiboxing is not clearly defined, but to my knowledge we have not moved to a stance of actively refusing to support multiple clients. Again, if there is an example of ticket stating this please PM me the number so I can review it.
We have directly requested that support inform us how many tickets there are about these issues and what the related OSes are. I understand that they may not be able to help in the sense that we do not currently have additional fixes or advice for the ticket writers, but support is not "refusing to help". (If ticket literally says something like this, please PM me the ticket number.)
Ticket number 121101-002771
May be I am extrapolate, but what I understand there is "We will help you if you have issues with one client only. If you have issues with two clients, we won't help you".
Please feel free to correct me if I understand it wrong
May be I am extrapolate, but what I understand there is "We will help you if you have issues with one client only. If you have issues with two clients, we won't help you".
Please feel free to correct me if I understand it wrong
I'll look into this.
Ok so you all are going over all other issues.... What about one BIG issue the energies and the marks... The marks not being there in a sense robs people of Instances because not worth it with out the exp the marks give.... GJ PEOPLE!!! I believe US the players should get some sort of compensation for all the screw ups lately!!!
I would love someone to confirm if it is an error we are not getting energy of destructions or if this is another way for NCwest to make money off us by only offering then in the Store.... I would like to the same about the Marks used in Terrador. Also anything else left out of the patch notes NCWest wants to share would be nice..... Keep up the good work guys!
Yeah, all of a sudden with no announced changes our Operating systems decided to start causing gameguard errors. Gameguard also decided it hates said operating systems. How ******* dumb are you guys?
what about the GameGuard error when opening multiple clients? are we gonna get a fix for that soon or i need to spend 20+minute everyday to log my enchanter?
Just 2 post above you were the things they are fixing....did you not understand them...did you see anywhere in Juji's announcement for the Game Gaurd error ?
This problem is not only about open multiple box, sometimes i cant open even 1. I have to try a lot of times to open and sometimes im able to ope 5 clients with no errors. It Is a ramdon error in gameguard when try to send the info of client to this ip 64.25.35.176.
Any news about the gamma bug when alt+tabed with L2 in background? some times I cannot run FireFox when running L2 at the same time, IE works but takes a lot of time to open. When I use it, after some time an error message pops up but looks like everything was reported already (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=111771), it's not a new problem.
I would love someone to confirm if it is an error we are not getting energy of destructions or if this is another way for NCwest to make money off us by only offering then in the Store.... I would like to the same about the Marks used in Terrador. Also anything else left out of the patch notes NCWest wants to share would be nice..... Keep up the good work guys!
Any news about the gamma bug when alt+tabed with L2 in background? some times I cannot run FireFox when running L2 at the same time, IE works but takes a lot of time to open. When I use it, after some time an error message pops up but looks like everything was reported already (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=111771), it's not a new problem.
I don't have any news about this issue.
FYI about the Gameguard errors, we've seen some of our staff be able to open multiple game clients with no issues, but some others do get the Gameguard errors when trying to open a 2nd client. Therefore it is very helpful if players with Gameguard issues write in to support to say what OS they're using, the full error codes they're seeing, if they're trying to use multiple clients or not (should be a 'yes' but just in case). Also of course please make sure your client is fully updated with the latest Gameguard fix so that everyone's on the same page. We're not saying that you haven't updated it, but we have seen some issues of players writing it and it turns out they didn't actually update their client after all, so please do check. :)
Posting that we know there are players having issues means that it is certainly officially recognized. The data I've been given shows that 80% of the tickets/cases with Gameguard issues were resolved after the last fix. That leaves 20% of tickets/case that have been reported. Likely some players have issues still but have not reported them; unfortunately it is difficult to track how many players have this issue if they don't send a ticket.
At this time there are no additional maintenance-related fixes to Gameguard, but that doesn't mean there won't be more in the future. For now we treat this somewhat as a new issue, as those players still affected may have different setups that are causing the persistent problems. That various players are saying this is now only occurring when trying to open multiple clients is definitely a separate issue than the problem that prevented any client at all from being opened. That is why it helps for players to send a ticket: the data of their situation is recorded and gathered info can then lead to a new, refined fix being requested.
90% of my clan has the issue opening more then 1 client. So thats about 80 tickets not submitted because.we know its client based not our computers. So when will this be fixed?
I would love someone to confirm if it is an error we are not getting energy of destructions or if this is another way for NCwest to make money off us by only offering then in the Store.... I would like to the same about the Marks used in Terrador. Also anything else left out of the patch notes NCWest wants to share would be nice..... Keep up the good work guys!
There is no update about this issue.
We have directly requested that support inform us how many tickets there are about these issues and what the related OSes are. I understand that they may not be able to help in the sense that we do not currently have additional fixes or advice for the ticket writers, but support is not "refusing to help". (If ticket literally says something like this, please PM me the ticket number.)
Edit: Support for multiboxing is not clearly defined, but to my knowledge we have not moved to a stance of actively refusing to support multiple clients. Again, if there is an example of ticket stating this please PM me the number so I can review it.
no offence sace but half of people dont even make a ticket
im one 1 of em i dont use firewall i dont use virus scanner or w/e kind of crap and got GG errors also and im 1 of the 1000 people who dont bother writing down a ticket why? because if there was a LEGAL fix people would have figured it out em self real quick
only way to fix it right now is by simply killing gameguard but that gets u banned so its not a option also
anyway question..
in glory days raids suppose to be easier no? extreme raids/vala/anthy/tauti but it seems like we got half a patch or w/e cus their hp is still insane while only terrawiki it says tauti hp 42m fact that it took some people almost same time as before to kill if not longer makes it really suspicious that something isnt right here or am i wrong?
90% of my clan has the issue opening more then 1 client. So thats about 80 tickets not submitted because.we know its client based not our computers. So when will this be fixed?
I don't know when it will be fixed. First we need to determine what's causing the errors. Thank you and your clan for sending in tickets. (You may have missed my post right before yours (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?p=3279221#post3279221) on the previous page, by the way; it's a small update about problem.)
Well it seams as if GameGuard server is not reachable or something cause i get a "send fail!" error message and then another failure thing on the web telling me to edit my host file which is done and still i got connection problems.
And most people wont bother sending tickets to get a generally generated response from some person. Since what is there they can do? Escalate it to trashcan? Most people in my clan cant either open more than 2 clients at a given time.
And i don't understand why you give us lame excuses since this is a bigger problem now both for win8 and other windows users than it was before! and claiming it works as it supposed to seams to be the given reason now days from you at NC Soft.
when will the hp bar status and character moving around without clicking be fixed?
The HP gauge issue was partially fixed but we've confirmed that they still don't show up for other players in your view. No news about when that additional fix, nor when a fix for the movement issue, will arrive.
The HP gauge issue was partially fixed but we've confirmed that they still don't show up for other players in your view. No news about when that additional fix, nor when a fix for the movement issue, will arrive.
Maintenance is now complete! :)
Nice ^^ But the GameGuard problem not solved >< :(
man packed with people on shilen when it started in TI. took me some time just to put skills from the items in this event on the bar cuz of constant zombification and purification lol. now for the question should all players de-zombifie when the events end or not? cuz atm people still runing around and zombifie people and its a pain in the ***.
yeh then you probably missed it. when zombie event starts you get a purple flag icon with a skull on your screen, klik on it and youll be teleported to that town where the event is.
On Naia i just found Zombie Attack! NPCs in Talking Island Village.
But no zombies, or that crystal or any notification about the event start :( --> No Zombie event for Naia players
Remember, the event NPCs spawn for an hour before the event starts (event page says this). I just now logged in to Naia and I got the notification on my screen. The event was over pretty fast because hundreds of zombies swarmed the Guardian Crystal really fast. There are still a lot of zombie transformations standing about. Alestina spawns just inside the south gate to Aden, by the way.
Performance drop (it lagged like hell) // but i expected that
(When the event is over all characters and town NPCs are de-zombified and zombie monsters are removed.) // It doesnt work so zombie forever
No rewards // :(
It's so sad that each maintenance NCSoft try to fix things, but end up failing fixing those and even break up more stuff while doing so.
The HP gauge, it was a matter of saving the settings it in the right section on Options.ini. Game client was saving HP gauge info under the [Game] section, but was reading from [ScreenInfo] section. If you edited Options.ini and manually moved the settings to the right section, HP gauge would appear again.
But here comes fail NCSoft developers, they never understood the issue at all, never cared to investigate the causes, they just guessed what was wrong, then wrote whatever piece of code, and told GM staff it "may" fix it, cause ofc, they didn't test it at all, calling it a "partial" fix.
What bothers me, is that it would take me 10 minutes of coding to correct that problem, including properly testing the solution. But it scares me how NCSoft development can be so irrational, cause not only they failed fixing the issue, they just made it worse, cause the aforementioned workaround doesn't work anymore. It's clear developers didn't even bother testing, just typed some random code to solve what they think the problem is, make a build and deploy it without a MINIMAL verification.
It's surreal that a company that earns money by shipping software, in 2012, actually ships a code that is clearly broken, the very minimal test would detect it's not working. How hard is to just load a game client and check if other players have HP gauge bars above their heads? Really, it just shows how dysfunctional NCSoft development process has become. Every maintenance is a nightmare, there is always something that got broken in the process of fixing another unrelated issue. NCSoft has serious issues with code management, any software developer with below average experience can spot all the weakness in NCSoft processes. You're just showing your customers that you have a complete amateur team, the kind of amateurs that never used an SCV software nor a worklog, or a bugtracker, etc. It's really painful to see those kinds of mistakes being made considering that several companies had passed through those challenges and solved them decades ago. We're not talking about a new challenge here, we're talking about just applying current knowledge to increase development quality and time-to-market while reducing mistakes.
On another topic, opening tickets is another painful experience with NCSoft. All you read is copy/paste answers, you can clearly tell that the guy who answered didn't even bother to read what you asked or is completely clueless about the subject. Also, the responses are usually "run a repair check" or "check your computer for virus". If not that, they just close your ticked saying "we will investigate" and you will never hear about it anymore. This happened when I petitioned about Custom Hotkeys being broken. Even thou hotkeys are saved server side, GM asked me to run a repair check. When I mentioned that fact, all I've got is the "we're investigating" answer.
Also, such a critical issue like hotkeys, which simply makes the game unplayable for a lot of people, are moved below on the queue since it's the second week without a proper fix. In any serious software company, If you leave part of the user base without being able to use the shipped software for 2 weeks, someone gets fired, simple as that.
And lastly, let's talk about the absurd GameGuard errors. Seriously, it doesn't block botting, doesn't block keyloggers. You claim it makes L2 secure, but all it does is hurting legitimate users or breaking legitimate apps like Acrobat Reader and Media Player Classic. People in AION petitioned to not have to deal with GameGarbage, and you conceded that. Why can't you do the same for L2, remove GG already, it is just hurting us and not preventing any cheat at all. Also, only in a parallel universe you can play this game with a single box. Load your main toon, your mentee, your buffer, your your DD in case you're a support... and the list goes on. So no, opening only one box is not an option, which makes this another critical issue that got moved below on the queue.
Focusing on HP gauge bars first when such a critical issues are still open just shows their development team is lost and doesn't know where to focus. Hence that's why a new update is always a tragedy.
But here comes fail NCSoft developers, they never understood the issue at all, never cared to investigate the causes, they just guessed what was wrong, then wrote whatever piece of code, and told GM staff it "may" fix it, cause ofc, they didn't test it at all, calling it a "partial" fix.
What bothers me, is that it would take me 10 minutes of coding to correct that problem, including properly testing the solution. But it scares me how NCSoft development can be so irrational, cause not only they failed fixing the issue, they just made it worse, cause the aforementioned workaround doesn't work anymore. It's clear developers didn't even bother testing, just typed some random code to solve what they think the problem is, make a build and deploy it without a MINIMAL verification.
First, the developers are in Korea.
Second, they were working at maximum pace to get Lindvior update out before November (due to Olympiad games on Korean servers).
Third, Korean servers have different codes than US servers, so, like you, I suspect they mostly go with guesswork when trying to identify the causes for the issues.
Anybody haveing trouble to get into the Harnak Underground with this newest patch ? My WC finally got to 85 and i cant do the Awaken quest since i cant get teleported to Harnak Ruins... NPC Hadel in 1st Exploration Zone has the teleport option to go there as the Quest Guides state but i click on it and nothing happens... anybody else haveing this trouble ? or can anybody tell me what to do to get to the Harnak Ruins to do the 85 quest ?
First, the developers are in Korea.
Second, they were working at maximum pace to get Lindvior update out before November (due to Olympiad games on Korean servers).
Third, Korean servers have different codes than US servers, so, like you, I suspect they mostly go with guesswork when trying to identify the causes for the issues.
1) Software developers are software developers everywhere, location doesn't matter. Unless you're implying that Koreans are worse coders because of their nationality, which I disagree.
2) If you worked on any software company, you noticed they have different teams for maintaining a code (doing fixes on already shipped code) and another for developing new code.
3) Again, this is something that got solved by the industry decades ago. How do you think Microsoft can manage Windows 7 and Windows 8. OMG THEY HAVE TO GUESS HOW TO FIX WINDOWS 7 NOW THAT WINDOWS 8 IS OUT!!!!!
I'll repeat myself, if you ever worked on the software development industry, you can tell how amateurish NCSoft developers are acting, cause all these problems they're facing are considered solved by any other software company long ago. For non developers, this may sound like an impossible thing to manage, but it isn't, trust me.
I dont know why but yesterday all ok and now only one window, some advice how to open (succesfull) more than one? I try to find some advices on forum but nothing work.
1) Software developers are software developers everywhere, location doesn't matter. Unless you're implying that Koreans are worse coders because of their nationality, which I disagree.
2) If you worked on any software company, you noticed they have different teams for maintaining a code (doing fixes on already shipped code) and another for developing new code.
3) Again, this is something that got solved by the industry decades ago. How do you think Microsoft can manage Windows 7 and Windows 8. OMG THEY HAVE TO GUESS HOW TO FIX WINDOWS 7 NOW THAT WINDOWS 8 IS OUT!!!!!
I'll repeat myself, if you ever worked on the software development industry, you can tell how amateurish NCSoft developers are acting, cause all these problems they're facing are considered solved by any other software company long ago. For non developers, this may sound like an impossible thing to manage, but it isn't, trust me.
You clearly haven't read anything about how NCKorea devs work. And, by specifying they're Koreans, means that before getting anything, the NCWEst department needs to translate stuff and get the fixes, which can be delayed due to various reasons.
NCWEst doesn't have developers. This can't be stressed enough.
Tried everything people suggested here but nothing works, getting GG error galore when I log 2nd client. I think I have seen all the error codes and that idiotic website that pops up and offers no help whatsoever. Tried for 40 minutes, then had enough.
Gonna send in support tickets for every crashed client (currently stopped at 6 frozen on the login screen with the error), not that I really think anyone would bother fixing it though as it doesn't even seem to be acknowledged as existing.
As for Win 8, Aion has no problem running on it as it has newer GG so it's should be fixable. I use Win 7, but just tried out of curiosity.
Half of my clan stays logged in on multiple accounts just to be sure, unfortunately I need my laptop to be taken with me so can't afford that. Reminds me of the old days when you had to stay logged to ensure your slot on the server...
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You clearly haven't read anything about how NCKorea devs work. And, by specifying they're Koreans, means that before getting anything, the NCWEst department needs to translate stuff and get the fixes, which can be delayed due to various reasons.
NCWEst doesn't have developers. This can't be stressed enough.
OK, your point being? NCSoft has a terrible development workflow, if it's Korea or USA, how does that matter? I'm not talking about delays, I'm talking about a soft house that deploys code without tests or minimal verification if the problem was really solved. A soft house that has headaches managing what features goes into each version of a product, probably because of lack of or bad usage of a SCM software. A soft house that has problem giving priorities to what to fix, to what was already fixed, what was already shipped, due to lack of or bad usage of a bugtracking software. A soft house that release a patch notes that is a complete joke since half of it is already applied and the other half wasn't supposed to be applied already or wasn't working at all.
Simply put, their development team is terrible and looks amateurish, be it in Korea, be it in USA.
OK, your point being? NCSoft has a terrible development workflow, if it's Korea or USA, how does that matter? I'm not talking about delays, I'm talking about a soft house that deploys code without tests or minimal verification if the problem was really solved. A soft house that has headaches managing what features goes into each version of a product, probably because of lack of or bad usage of a SCM software. A soft house that has problem giving priorities to what to fix, to what was already fixed, what was already shipped, due to lack of or bad usage of a bugtracking software. A soft house that release a patch notes that is a complete joke since half of it is already applied and the other half wasn't supposed to be applied already or wasn't working at all.
Simply put, their development team is terrible and looks amateurish, be it in Korea, be it in USA.
I couldn't say better.
In every update they seem to not even test what they produced, because in evey update we have tons of bugs.
We are their testers, while they should have a person or a team for that. They shouldn't leave that to the playerbase.
OK, your point being? NCSoft has a terrible development workflow, if it's Korea or USA, how does that matter? I'm not talking about delays, I'm talking about a soft house that deploys code without tests or minimal verification if the problem was really solved. A soft house that has headaches managing what features goes into each version of a product, probably because of lack of or bad usage of a SCM software. A soft house that has problem giving priorities to what to fix, to what was already fixed, what was already shipped, due to lack of or bad usage of a bugtracking software. A soft house that release a patch notes that is a complete joke since half of it is already applied and the other half wasn't supposed to be applied already or wasn't working at all.
Simply put, their development team is terrible and looks amateurish, be it in Korea, be it in USA.
I'm simply trying to explain why NCSoft is so messed up.
NCSoft won't change its ways, because Koreans don't want Western players (and not even Chinese players) to have the same features their own servers have.
Winder why almost everything goes smoothly over there, while we get bugged content? Because they care more for the Asian market, and they sure take their time testing stuff, which is written with 'their' code.
NCWest, NCTaiwan and Innova servers have 'customized' setups, which apparently requires some cut-and-paste from the original 'Korean' code, which is subsequently fated to generate bugs due to the haste in the work. And they send the patches over there, without testing them (because they're a cut-and-paste work) and leaving the job to their branch offices. And in NCWest's case, this proves to be disastrous, generating game-breaking bugs and upsetting players. NCTaiwan has a more attentive approach to this, and in fact most of the informations on bugs and glitches come from its staff's blog.
By the way, in case it wasn't clear, I agree with what you say...
I'm simply trying to explain why NCSoft is so messed up.
NCSoft won't change its ways, because Koreans don't want Western players (and not even Chinese players) to have the same features their own servers have.
Winder why almost everything goes smoothly over there, while we get bugged content? Because they care more for the Asian market, and they sure take their time testing stuff, which is written with 'their' code.
NCWest, NCTaiwan and Innova servers have 'customized' setups, which apparently requires some cut-and-paste from the original 'Korean' code, which is subsequently fated to generate bugs due to the haste in the work. And they send the patches over there, without testing them (because they're a cut-and-paste work) and leaving the job to their branch offices. And in NCWest's case, this proves to be disastrous, generating game-breaking bugs and upsetting players. NCTaiwan has a more attentive approach to this, and in fact most of the informations on bugs and glitches come from its staff's blog.
By the way, in case it wasn't clear, I agree with what you say...
If that's so, they're being ridiculously naive then, cause they can't survive on Asian market alone. They have to sell their other titles worldwide, and all they're accomplishing is putting a big sign "DO NOT BUY" on every NCSoft product.
If that's so, they're being ridiculously naive then, cause they can't survive on Asian market alone. They have to sell their other titles worldwide, and all they're accomplishing is putting a big sign "DO NOT BUY" on every NCSoft product.
Wrong... Many NC(and another Korean companies too, for sure) games exists only on Korean market alone. And they are in good shape.
Another thing...for example - L1 failed on American market...but still is top game in Korea.
Another example - from Japan. Most of their games is created stricto for japanese market - and japanese market only. And I guess its working.
And don't think about asian market as european or american. Most of asian society is playing...not like in EU/USA.
Thank you for bringing this updated information to my attention today.
Again, this simply isn't a configuration method we can assist with. NCSOFT uses Game Guard but we do not program it. Please refer such questions directly to Nprotect directly: http://global.nprotect.com/product/gg.php.
Please do not hesitate to contact us should you have any additional issues, questions or concerns.
The response I got from support in regards to asking them to look into the gameguard errors. LF Sace or any other GM to comment on this and what's going to be done to fix it.
Thank you for bringing this updated information to my attention today.
Again, this simply isn't a configuration method we can assist with. NCSOFT uses Game Guard but we do not program it. Please refer such questions directly to Nprotect directly: http://global.nprotect.com/product/gg.php.
Please do not hesitate to contact us should you have any additional issues, questions or concerns.
The response I got from support in regards to asking them to look into the gameguard errors. LF Sace or any other GM to comment on this and what's going to be done to fix it.
It seems that NCSoft is not able to fix such errors, and therefore totally dependant of what INCA is doing.
Don't get me wrong, at first, I was as ****** as the next guy,
But, let me explain...
Been playing the game On & off for the last 7-8 years, with constant fluctuations between boredom & excitement. With boredom getting the best of me, especially after 97lvl, quiting once again seems inevitable.
I' know I am not the only one feeling the same anxiety, alas, the quagmire we are in friends, is unbearable, sometimes, I even wake up screaming at nights, cold sweat running down my forehead, tantalizing me, taking away all meaning from my miserable life. I was flirting with depression...
Until one day, the daily routine was no more...
Anger, mixed w/ anticipation for being able to run 2 accounts or more simultaniously, led to unanticipated and foremost, unpresedented excitement...
WTH, I even came up w/ a gambling game that brings, me & my fellow ventriloist closer together... Will it launch?... first to get 3 or more accounts running wins the bet... I'm telling you, that's some "Goooood times" there lads...
So... Rage not my friends, Indulge yourselves... As quoted from a (seriously retarted) forum member, Playing Lineage 2, is not a birthright, it is a privilege.
Hmm, before this GG issue we had to take our chances in game with OE stuf good drops form events or raids. Now last adition to the game: take your chance in logging in with more then one account on same computer. GG NCSoft. Keep it up.
Wrong... Many NC(and another Korean companies too, for sure) games exists only on Korean market alone. And they are in good shape.
Another thing...for example - L1 failed on American market...but still is top game in Korea.
Another example - from Japan. Most of their games is created stricto for japanese market - and japanese market only. And I guess its working.
And don't think about asian market as european or american. Most of asian society is playing...not like in EU/USA.
True...just look how those Novel games are such a hit in Japan, specially on portable consoles, and they keep on producing those because 1 country gamer population is enough to make a almost unplayed world-wide game-type, survive. Even now they still make PSP games strickly for Japan, while world-wide they are not launched cause PSP is dead outside of Japan even before the VITA launched.
Has anyone else noticed another issue with the clan warehouse?
Only 190 items are visible. If the clan warehouse contains more than 190 items, the 191st item, 192nd item, and so on, won't be visible until the warehouse has been reduced to 190 items or less.
As I stated before just enjoy the game for what it is. A place to meet friends.
Don't forget that once you reach 99 you will be met by the botters and script users. You will just be target practice unless you join them and if that is the case why are you playing legit now.
So many things don't work in this game that it is beyond broken.
My advice is save your money and if you must invest in a game at least invest in one where the company has some self respect and adheres to their own EULAs.
Wrong... Many NC(and another Korean companies too, for sure) games exists only on Korean market alone. And they are in good shape.
Another thing...for example - L1 failed on American market...but still is top game in Korea.
Another example - from Japan. Most of their games is created stricto for japanese market - and japanese market only. And I guess its working.
And don't think about asian market as european or american. Most of asian society is playing...not like in EU/USA.
You have some date for fixing the problem movement.
Sace please ;s
I don't have any confirmed details yet, but we may have news about this in the maintenance post we make later today. Stay tuned for that.
I had the same issue, even through the clan warehouse say have 9 free slot left. I was not able to deposit anything, keep saying warehouse is full. I had to withdraw more item from the clan warehouse to be able to deposit.
Has anyone else noticed another issue with the clan warehouse?
Only 190 items are visible. If the clan warehouse contains more than 190 items, the 191st item, 192nd item, and so on, won't be visible until the warehouse has been reduced to 190 items or less.