There has to be some kind of intervention or plan of attack in order to get things to an even semi normal condition....no regular player will ever be able to afford, through regular game play, any competitive gear.
I know, I know, not a new story but jesus.....a BILLION (1,000,000,000) Adena for a R95 UNIDENTIFIED SPECTER BOW on CHRONOS?
This is practically an invitation for RMT......hate to say it NCWEST, but for the love of the game, and the casual player with a REAL JOB and REAL LIFE, Just put GEAR in the L2 Store....
I would much prefer to give NCWEST my REAL LIFE Hard Earned Cash than to feel I have no choice but to engage in RMT ....oh well...gonna go buy more NCOIN Cards.....
There has to be some kind of intervention or plan of attack in order to get things to an even semi normal condition....no regular player will ever be able to afford, through regular game play, any competitive gear.
I know, I know, not a new story but jesus.....a BILLION (1,000,000,000) Adena for a R95 UNIDENTIFIED SPECTER BOW on CHRONOS?
This is practically an invitation for RMT......hate to say it NCWEST, but for the love of the game, and the casual player with a REAL JOB and REAL LIFE, Just put GEAR in the L2 Store....
I would much prefer to give NCWEST my REAL LIFE Hard Earned Cash than to feel I have no choice but to engage in RMT ....oh well...gonna go buy more NCOIN Cards.....
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Go, log on magmeld and take a look at aden and the auction house. Just do that.
I know, I know, not a new story but jesus.....a BILLION (1,000,000,000) Adena for a R95 UNIDENTIFIED SPECTER BOW on CHRONOS?
Go get a standard one (any R95 weapon of your choice) from the Olympiad manager, problem solved.
I started saving up Oly tokens and fame (by doing daily Oly quests + getting extra fame from sieges) last September, and by the beginning of January I got enough for 2 sets of standard R95 armor and 2 standard R95 weapons, all before even hitting lvl 95 on main. :p
Hmmm still no guy from innova to tell us how much cheaper and better is his server...****!
Indeed everything on Innova is much cheaper. Haven't played there in a while but a unidentified r95 bow is probably something like 100m now.
L2 Economy only works when you don't have thousands of bots farming adena in top spots 24/7.
Hmmm still no guy from innova to tell us how much cheaper and better is his server...****!
+4 300 + SA Specter Thrower ~800mil :) Unidentified ~120. Because there's no super duper inflation due to hundreds of bots poring billions of new adena into market everyday.
Here you have it! :D
Even tho I was being sarcastic, it's sad to see how badly economy is ****ed up here.
+4 300 + SA Specter Thrower ~800mil :) Unidentified ~120. Because there's no super duper inflation due to hundreds of bots poring billions of new adena into market everyday.
Here you have it! :D
Even tho I was being sarcastic, it's sad to see how badly economy is ****ed up here.
Bots are meh they've always been there, it's just now NC sells adena through the NCoin shop.
Bots are meh they've always been there, it's just now NC sells adena through the NCoin shop.
They always been there yes, but 3 man bot party didn't had ability to farm 500-800mil adena a day, now they do, and there are tons of 3 man bot parties. Not even gonna talk what a full party can produce, it's way over a billion per 24 hours.
It's not NCsoft, it's bots farming adena at the rates you can't even imagine that drives inflation.
NC Soft has made certain items very hard to get which sometimes explains the high prices. One example is the pendants from Aden reconstruction system (test from Juji): http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=241549
If they didn't put them as rewards in event, their price would exceed that of Boss Jewel. The way things are, only rich people can benefit from random low chance system; for example only people with huge amount of money can buy enough hero boxes to actually get something useful from that.
Reagrding gear, the main source for weapons and armor are mainly raids; NC killed completely the crafting system. They try to correct at least that mistake in Lindvior; I really hope that works out well.
"Working hard to get a reward" concept is a good concept as long as you can assure fairness for all; if you can't stop cheaters, better leave everything accessible to all.
Can you share how to make 500M in week playing 4 hours each day and doing all daily instances?
Do Octavis & Istina with Vitality and Maphr Drop rate on the whole CC, with only one pt
You wanna try fixing the economy? Try to get GMs going to hellbound and start hammering everything past the Steel Towers consisting of 4 Chars a party and Stage creating at least, 1b/24hr. Just look at the Museum in Naia where the Char "Zulus" is Top1 of all time due to the extensive farming up there now followed by his other fellow accompanies. There is 8 stages making it lets say, 5b (before ppl start crying about overcalculating) 5x30 makes 150b a month into Figgas pocket followed by the pretty safe "earned" CoC-Belt a month.
100b times (laughable) 30$/b makes 3k $ for some eastern alcoholic a month.
This consists of just the Naia and Infinitum Towers. Additionally there is the Tully Workshops. Additionally there is the LoA side of the story which surely produce equivalent if not more cash a month, send "Edge a pm about how it is going there on Naia.
The sad part is, the big cash in this update doesnt come from the new Content but the old Content being a joke to farm with 4th Class chars. Ofc the parties in harnak and gog generate some inflation aswell but no where near what HellBound and AnthyLair generate.
Why the heck do you guys think ppl all of a sudden started to farm for beleth ring obviously not because they passed by.
The downside to this is visible aswell, ppl start to shout "wts coc belt for shiny weaps, got enuf adena" turning this game into somekind of PathOfExile with no currency, just stick to it.
Kill the bots and the last ppl that play this game extensivly or let live and get the paychecks? Thats the hypocrite question some ppl in order and asking themselves for quite a time now.
It is posible to make 500kk per week (playing 5 hours per day) but I never said you will have time to do all dailies (every day) :p
For example you can sacrifice Fortuna which in best case scenario you will get an EAR and do something else.
PS. You need to have worked for that in order to be able (after a 18 months) to make 500kk per week. I am not saying that a newbie can accomplish that.
Now that we all know about the ingame corruption. Lets tell NcSoft. I am sure they will do something soon. I just know they will soon. Berry Berry soon.
Tell me your thoughts. If you spend a whole lot of time. Tons of money for the best of the best. What then. You think you will win. Ligit players can not win.. Forget getting the best of the best of the best plus 16 items.
Gzzz ask JuJi how many atempts to get a +6 or a plus 16 weapon with + 6 armer. If you are a working NA person. Add up the cost. Really. No Really!
If you bot for a living..... or live with your mom in the basment yes it is possible. If you play with a group of RMT and do raids each day. Yes it is possible.
Let your ego rest and play to have fun. The RTM will keep you chaseing your tail like a dog. Like little kids on the corner in third world countries they will do what they can to get your cash.
All I ask is take away the BAD Karma. Get rid of their ability to use a radar. HA HA HA. O YEA. I like to dream like the best of them.
If you want a PVP 1 v 1 2 v 2 or group PVP for fun. L2 is not the game for you. Why
read the first line.
It is posible to make 500kk per week (playing 5 hours per day) but I never said you will have time to do all dailies (every day) :p
For example you can sacrifice Fortuna which in best case scenario you will get an EAR and do something else.
PS. You need to have worked for that in order to be able (after a 18 months) to make 500kk per week. I am not saying that a newbie can accomplish that.
Ceremony of Chaos, if you are a suitable class to win and high lvl enough can bring you more per week.
You can make after maintenance with a good group Octavis with marph (1 hour) + Istina. Or some of these + Epic + Baylor. If your grp can invest more for marphs or extra passes it may end up in way much more adena.
The thing is most of the players spend their adena/time in leveling or PvPing (or slacking). If you do put some effort and concentrate on farming you can make a lot of adena for 4 hours per day.
Ceremony of Chaos, if you are a suitable class to win and high lvl enough can bring you more per week.
You can make after maintenance with a good group Octavis with marph (1 hour) + Istina. Or some of these + Epic + Baylor. If your grp can invest more for marphs or extra passes it may end up in way much more adena.
The thing is most of the players spend their adena/time in leveling or PvPing (or slacking). If you do put some effort and concentrate on farming you can make a lot of adena for 4 hours per day.
The thing is that you will still need over a year just to put some dyes.
RMT is encouraged this way. When NC West will realize this is not Korea?
They screwed up when they tried to make a "hardcore pvp game" about something other than a player's ability to pvp. It should not be contingent on equipment. And there should not be an economy of any kind.
The problem could be solved very easily.
1. Get rid of adena.
2. Disallow trades, sales, exchanges in any form, except for trades between characters on the same account.
3. Give everyone equal access to the material and means of production to create their own weapons, armor, etc. If that turns out to be a crafting system, make all crafts 100% success and the materials should be achieved through progressive quest rewards similar to the Path of Awakening.
3. Further, bind all items to characters. Items can be destroyed, or reverse engineered into base materials, but not dropped.
Implement these few ideas and RMT will not be the issue that it is presently. Further, many crappy players who pollute the base and hide mostly behind their gear in pvp will be exposed...because finally the game will focus on who knows how to play their characters the best, albeit with a hint of the "Korean random" variable tossed in for good measure when it comes to skill land rate.
Ncsoft have one choice with lindvior,put all top itens with quest and locked for trade yours rewards,kill octavis 15 fragment,istina 10 fragment,kartia 5...
boss weapon 10000 frag
Blessed r99 weapon 2500 frag
Blessed R95 weapon 1000 frag
Bless enchant 150 frag
(Exemple)
If boters are useless dont have more bots are simple,they love boters!!!
And Sell extra pass and quest reward 2x/3x for server stay alive . oh my god.
The thing is that you will still need over a year just to put some dyes.
RMT is encouraged this way. When NC West will realize this is not Korea?
Well depends. I started buying dyes since lvl 96. I tought I d invest in gear that will stay in me, rather than getting a good r95 set or wpn. At 97 I made my first lv5 leg int. By 98 I made 2 more sets. In Chronos you could get those dyes for 250-300 mil. I am actually planning to sell my r95 retributor so I can OE some skills and play with an Apo buster till I get to 99. So it includes some planning and sacrafising.
Most of the people think that game comes with gear and lvls. I have a lot of friends and ex CP members that quit my CP so they can exp faster, cause concentrating in bringing all to 97 takes away their exp. Now they are 99 and they have some gear, but they do nothing. The game is about groups, clans and people in general. You can not expect to be pwning without having a good group to play with.
So do not rush with gear and levels. Find good people to play with. In the end all the gear can not replace a strong party.
There has to be some kind of intervention or plan of attack in order to get things to an even semi normal condition....no regular player will ever be able to afford, through regular game play, any competitive gear.
I know, I know, not a new story but jesus.....a BILLION (1,000,000,000) Adena for a R95 UNIDENTIFIED SPECTER BOW on CHRONOS?
I could start with "learn to play" and such, but that's not true here. Indeed, the bots, RMT and the ones owning the main accounts behind all this are kinda killing this game. Been like this for years already and will be like this for years to come. Only thing I can think off is to farm the parts with the clan and make it yourself.
This is practically an invitation for RMT......hate to say it NCWEST, but for the love of the game, and the casual player with a REAL JOB and REAL LIFE, Just put GEAR in the L2 Store....
PLEASE NO! I've seen to many MMORPGs with gear in the cash shop that makes it a real Pay2Win game. What's next after gear? Players want that Nice bow to be +15? Okay, lets drop in some destruction scrolls.
No thanks, I'll pass for that. You really want to see Lineage II as Pay2Win? Go to Innova servers and look for yourself. What I just described here above kinda happens there and the economy is as broken as it's here...
when nc fix their corrupt mind changes for lindvior no more unidentified items will be drop but will be low the drop rates (instances overall places) WTF :confused:
Ncsoft have one choice with lindvior,put all top itens with quest and locked for trade yours rewards,kill octavis 15 fragment,istina 10 fragment,kartia 5...
boss weapon 10000 frag
Blessed r99 weapon 2500 frag
Blessed R95 weapon 1000 frag
Bless enchant 150 frag
(Exemple)
If boters are useless dont have more bots are simple,they love boters!!!
And Sell extra pass and quest reward 2x/3x for server stay alive . oh my god.
Bots are also farming instances.
There has to be some kind of intervention or plan of attack in order to get things to an even semi normal condition....no regular player will ever be able to afford, through regular game play, any competitive gear.
I know, I know, not a new story but jesus.....a BILLION (1,000,000,000) Adena for a R95 UNIDENTIFIED SPECTER BOW on CHRONOS?
This is practically an invitation for RMT......hate to say it NCWEST, but for the love of the game, and the casual player with a REAL JOB and REAL LIFE, Just put GEAR in the L2 Store....
I would much prefer to give NCWEST my REAL LIFE Hard Earned Cash than to feel I have no choice but to engage in RMT ....oh well...gonna go buy more NCOIN Cards.....
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Look,
The situation of the Adena is a little interesting. NCsoft did boost by himself the amount of Adena what the mobs drops.
In Hellfire, Guillotine Fortress, Orbis, Garden of Genesis after each mobs you can get about 30-50k Adena and most of them easy to kill.
I'm a solo player mostly first of all if I farming. I did calculate I can farm in Hellfire about 60m adena alone per day (just adena excluding drops) with 8-10 hours farm.
Now if a bot group farm with full party they farm in 24/7 and with 3x faster speed.
But if I just look myself this 60m per day + drop so say 80m-100m. 10 days farm for an Uni Specter Bow what an average player will use for about 6 months and even for a year if your dual can use this wep too, isn't much.
The high amount of adena drop is necessary, because the chance to get Legendary Dyes or Enchant your skills to +10 will request brutal amount of adena also the 2nd SA, PvP/PvE bonuses, these stuffs what I did write down for you, created and fixed by NCsoft costs minimum 50-60 billion adena!
If you just a causal player and do not have plans to get Hero, beat full pvp parties in solo or kill raid bosses in solo, than you haven't huge issue to get gear.
1. Get your gear from Olympiad, you can collect Fame, through CoC, Siege, Fort Siege, Olympiad Daily (mostly your work at a fort siege farm, that go to npc register stay near to the wall and go to afk for 90-120 mins, after return go register to another fort and 90-120 mins afk) I did detect most of L2 player has job through computer or they near to computer often, so this type of farm, is a brutal helpful think to these players, just they mostly hasn't clue about it.
2. You can easily farm alone attribute crystals, stones from kartia and soa dailies.
3. Try to buy just those items, what alone you really aren't able to farm out.
The fact that you're on Chronus crying about the market price in your server amuses me, not in any offensive way.
Everything is x2~x3 (and depending on some top gear/epics, even up to x5) in market value on servers such as Magmeld.
Some people even spend hundreds of dollars buying NCOIN Cards to transfer adena/gear from Magmeld to Chronus, just to pay another 50 bucks to transfer it back to Magmeld lol.
With this "F2P-type" of Lineage 2, getting free gear and shiit all the way to 86 spoiled noobs like you who dont understand how it was in the previous Chronicles.
We had to craft every god f u c k i n g item from scrap to scrap, seeding, farming mats, and failing just to try and craft that C~S grade.
So if you're already lost in the game even after you're awakened, this game might not be the game that fits your standards. Go try WoW or Diablo lol
With this "F2P-type" of Lineage 2, getting free gear and shiit all the way to 86 spoiled noobs like you who dont understand how it was in the previous Chronicles.
We had to craft every god f u c k i n g item from scrap to scrap, seeding, farming mats, and failing just to try and craft that C~S grade.
So if you're already lost in the game even after you're awakened, this game might not be the game that fits your standards. Go try WoW or Diablo lol
Everyone in this community is becoming extremely spoiled. Why are you people complaining about the CHEAP price of unid/std R/R95/R99 gear when putting a second SA on R99 costs more than your weapon/armor/element combined? And then look at talisman of Loonging which isn't near as good as the top boss jewels that are much more expensive and that's just from the ingame adena sinks alone plus the randomness that can make it insanely expensive if you are very unlucky. Everyone seems to forget how expensive gear once was. Even before GoD when bots were more rare, a top armor set was about 1b or more if enchanted. 1B in High 5 was a LOT of adena compared to now. You can get 1B adena just by doing dailies in a week if you happen to have a somewhat lucky week even more if you have a really lucky week. If you do everything you can in game to maximize your adena income just from dailies then you could easily make 1B a week if you put forth the effort. Prices on most items are reasonable. Prices on "priceless" items like Trasken/Tauti which are extremely rare are a bit exaggerated but are meant to be rare and expensive anyways although yes they are inflated a bit much.
With this "F2P-type" of Lineage 2, getting free gear and shiit all the way to 86 spoiled noobs like you who dont understand how it was in the previous Chronicles.
We had to craft every god f u c k i n g item from scrap to scrap, seeding, farming mats, and failing just to try and craft that C~S grade.
So if you're already lost in the game even after you're awakened, this game might not be the game that fits your standards. Go try WoW or Diablo lol
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This brings back memories... The time & effort I've made to get my BW set back then, it was just awesome and very rewarding when I had it complete as well ;)