Upcoming Changes With Lindvior Update

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Adventurers,

We are one week away from the LINEAGE II: LINDVIOR update! With that in mind we wanted to announce some upcoming changes that will take place once LINDVIOR arrives.

Grand Olympiad

As announced before, current Heroes will lose their Hero status when the update goes live on May 29th.
There will be no Heroes for the month of May.
Click here (http://www.lineage2.com/en/news/announcements/grand-olympiad-update.php) for more details.


New Chat Block System

With the Lindvior update, we have implemented a new system to directly involve the community into preventing RMT spam.

After a certain number of blocks, a character will be temporarily banned from chatting and using the in-game mail system.

Please help us fight RMT spam by blocking them!
NOTE: anybody found abusing this system on other players will be severely sanctioned.


Castle Siege Changes

Due to the new Dimensional Siege system, we will be aligning all Castle Sieges on all servers on the same day.
Naia, Magmeld and Bartz Castle Sieges will happen normally on May 26th as scheduled, but the next siege after that will be on June 2nd to be aligned with Chronos and Shilen.
Chronos and Shilen will not be affected by this change.


Vitality Item Usage Limit

With Lindvior, the number of Vitality items that a character can use per week has been set to 9,999.


Database Clean Up

Characters who haven’t logged into the game since November 30th, 2009 will be deleted. There is no recovery possible.

For those that return between May 22nd and June 5th, 2013, 5:00 AM PDT, we will award you with 99 NCoin!

Character deletions will take place June 5th (during maintenance).
Click here (http://www.lineage2.com/en/news/announcements/upcoming-database-clean-up.php) for full details.


Soul Avatar Agathion Collection

Collect all 12 and receive a free ninja outfit, a Japanese weapon and 3 energy recharge items for your agathions.
Decipher the secret phrase embedded into the Story Cards to receive a Destruction Scroll: Enchant Weapon (R-grade) along with 12 energy recharge items. Only the 1st person to submit the correct code will receive the prize.
Click here (http://www.lineage2.com/en/news/store-promos/soul-avatar-agathion-collection.php) for full details.


Stone of Destiny Removal

All Stone of Destiny will be removed during the Lindvior update.


L2 Store Gift Option

The gift option in the L2Store will be enabled when we launch Lindvior.
There is minimum level restriction of 85 to use this new feature.
More information on this new option coming soon.


Mentee Certificate Removal From the Path to Awakening

With Lindvior, you do not need a mentee certificate anymore to get a mentor.
Additionally, the mentee certificate is now automatically granted to the mentee via in-game mail upon graduation at level 85
Due to this change, we will remove the mentee certificate from the Path to Awakening when Lindvior goes live.


Awakening Service Removal

Due to the Class Diversification system in Lindvior, this account service cannot be offered anymore.
We will be removing this service at the launch of Lindvior on May 29th.

For more detailed game related changes, please check out our LINDVIOR patch notes. (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=256633)
Database clean up ? I like it. Would it affect banned account after the given date ?

And the block chat system ... I like that, thank you it's a nice idea
Gon Namkung say in Interview:
"....Olympiad will be expanded into a cross-server Olympiad using the server teleportation technology introduced in Lindvior. Heroes of each world will be pitted against each other, and PvP will become even more interesting with the improved matching system"

In all patch-notes and informations about new update I don't see any phrase talking about cross-server battles. Can you talk more detais or just say "NA servers will not support cross-server battles in this first update".

About chat system:


Towns will be infested with private stores "adena cheap" - add function disable sell/buy stores.
RMT will overload login server with constant login and logout to rotate their "announcements"
Any news about bot detection system or you consider chat restrictions a solution against bots?
The creation of new account system will still the same?

Due to the new Dimensional Siege systemCan you share more information about the "Dimensional Siege system", in current patchnotes I don't found any information.
New Chat Block System

With the Lindvior update, we have implemented a new system to directly involve the community into preventing RMT spam.

After a certain number of blocks, a character will be temporarily banned from chatting and using the in-game mail system.

Please help us fight RMT spam by blocking them!
NOTE: anybody found abusing this system on other players will be severely sanctioned.


Good idea, BUT...

Exploits on it's way... Imagine a castle siege where the attacking forces MASS BLOCK the defenders. All defenders gone and castle is lost.

I hope there's some 'security measure' build in to prevent something like this from happening..?
Vali, for the data base clean up, is it a character or an account??

i.e. 7 characters on 1 account, am
playing 1 character who is lvl 88 and i didnt bother with other characters on the same account, so will they be removed?
Good idea, BUT...

Exploits on it's way... Imagine a castle siege where the attacking forces MASS BLOCK the defenders. All defenders gone and castle is lost.

I hope there's some 'security measure' build in to prevent something like this from happening..?

it's chat ban. not ban for account... read everything.. not 1st few words.. omg.
it's chat ban. not ban for account... read everything.. not 1st few words.. omg.

Oh... my bad... Forgot those 2 words :p

*NC please remove my comment* :p
Please help us fight RMT spam by blocking them!
I never block spamers, and i will not do your work in future too.

anybody found abusing this system on other players will be severely sanctioned.
What is exact punishment?
Gon Namkung say in Interview:
"....Olympiad will be expanded into a cross-server Olympiad using the server teleportation technology introduced in Lindvior. Heroes of each world will be pitted against each other, and PvP will become even more interesting with the improved matching system"

In all patch-notes and informations about new update I don't see any phrase talking about cross-server battles. Can you talk more detais or just say "NA servers will not support cross-server battles in this first update".

Juji answered this question in the Lindvior thread


Towns will be infested with private stores "adena cheap" - add function disable sell/buy stores.

Already existing
New Chat Block System

NOTE: anybody found abusing this system on other players will be severely sanctioned.

Awww :(
Juji answered this question in the Lindvior thread
Thanks for info, i'll search.

Already existing
I don't know if exist or no, where you found this information?
You can hide stores in the options, 3 or 4th tab
You can hide stores in the options, 3 or 4th tab
Sure, but hide all stores.

/chatblock #rmtGoodBoy#
- Disable private store
- Disable chat
- Disable mail
Well that would be nice, dunno if possible still :D
The database clean up will only affect characters. Player's accounts will remain in tact.

For example: You have 6 characters on one account that you haven't logged into in almost 4 years. If you log into one character before June 5th, that one character will be saved. The other five will be deleted.

If you log into none before June 5th, none will be saved but your account will still exist.
By how much time should it reduce downtimes ?

How many characters do you think you are going to remove ? (1k, 2k, 10k) ?

Do you consider making banned names available again for name transfers ? :D
What about those characters who are clan leaders and are deleted. What happens to the clan itself, the warehouse, etc???
Does the next ranking person get the clan or is the clan poofed?
Also, if that toon is in a clan, will that slot be cleared in that clan (ie: one less toon in clan) or will that name remain in the clan rouster?
10k+ nc coins for ninja style, haha ncwest.
By how much time should it reduce downtimes ?

How many characters do you think you are going to remove ? (1k, 2k, 10k) ?

Do you consider making banned names available again for name transfers ? :D1. We won't be able to see the results until after it happens. The reduced downtime will allow the servers to boot up faster.
2. A LOT!
3. All the banned names will be free except the inappropriate ones of course :p

What about those characters who are clan leaders and are deleted. What happens to the clan itself, the warehouse, etc???
Does the next ranking person get the clan or is the clan poofed?
Also, if that toon is in a clan, will that slot be cleared in that clan (ie: one less toon in clan) or will that name remain in the clan rouster?
Characters that are clan leaders will NOT be deleted.
10k+ nc coins for ninja style, haha ncwest.

Actually it's "10k+ NCoin" for the Agathions; the Ninja outfit, Japanese weapon appearance stone and Agathion energy recharges are FREE to those that bought them.

The Ninja outfit and Japanese weapon appearance stones will be added to the store sometime in June.
Vali,

Could you please clarify the Olympiad portion of this? I know you guys announced not being able to claim the rewards for May Oly. Does this also mean we won't be able to use the npc to buy oly heal pots or will that option still remain enabled?
Good to see some action against the rmt guys.
However in my experience the persons sending rmt personal messages, are not the same as those that send u mails about rmt.
will there be any steps taken to allow players to block mails?this would help a lot also in combating rmt.
Good to see some action against the rmt guys.
However in my experience the persons sending rmt personal messages, are not the same as those that send u mails about rmt.
will there be any steps taken to allow players to block mails?this would help a lot also in combating rmt.

This.

The mails annoy me way more than the chat spams.
1. We won't be able to see the results until after it happens. The reduced downtime will allow the servers to boot up faster.

I am sure you can copy a live server, do the clean up (and check that everything is fine) and then boot it to check the different :D


2. A LOT!

IS it Over 9000 ?

3. All the banned names will be free except the inappropriate ones of course :p

Interesting :cool:


Characters that are clan leaders will NOT be deleted.
Good thing to see that you are trying to automate chatban/ban RMT....BUT we already /block them anyway so nothing new more.well i gues 5-10 good guys will have to bother use /block to save the others.From that point its good.
But would really like to see you come up with a better idea to so they wont be able to join anymore.Maybe do something on the creation of account becouse anyone who like can make infinite accounts
Greetings Master Juji and Master Vali.
A question about upcoming changes.
Will you keep selling unidentified items on weapon and armor shops like Aden and Giran for those who do not play every day?
for us that find temporal items gone when login after some time.
Thank you for all the effort for giving us the best of this wonderful game.
Good to see some action against the rmt guys.
However in my experience the persons sending rmt personal messages, are not the same as those that send u mails about rmt.
will there be any steps taken to allow players to block mails?this would help a lot also in combating rmt.


"With the Lindvior update, we have implemented a new system to directly involve the community into preventing RMT spam.

After a certain number of blocks, a character will be temporarily banned from chatting and using the in-game mail system."


We also run backend checks weekly on in-game mail being sent and ban users advertising RMT.
Vali, you mention that server siege days will change for Bartz and Naia, will the times change as well or will they remain the same?
Vali, you mention that server siege days will change for Bartz and Naia, will the times change as well or will they remain the same?

The times will remain the same.
that chat block system will get abused even with 'reprocussions'

it's a nice attempt to fix it but it still will get abused no matter what.
that chat block system will get abused even with 'reprocussions'

it's a nice attempt to fix it but it still will get abused no matter what.

If it's a temp ban or perma ban, not many will abuse it then.
If it's a temp ban or perma ban, not many will abuse it then.

You act like it's not possible to use proxies, create 10 new accounts a day or use lvl 1 toons to /block!
You act like it's not possible to use proxies, create 10 new accounts a day or use lvl 1 toons to /block!

Surely low level toon's reports won't count.
Will I be able to buy an unbind scroll for R grade weapons with mentee marks in this new update?
The database clean up will only affect characters. Player's accounts will remain in tact.

For example: You have 6 characters on one account that you haven't logged into in almost 4 years. If you log into one character before June 5th, that one character will be saved. The other five will be deleted.

If you log into none before June 5th, none will be saved but your account will still exist.

Let's make a deal.

If you will give me just 1 Ncoin (or 100% XP treat, or t-shirt enchant scroll destruction) per character, I will delete about 10 characters across all of my accounts, and you can waive the 4 year requirement. How's that? :D
nvm
and with gameguared still no fixed it yet???
New Chat Block System
With the Lindvior update, we have implemented a new system to directly involve the community into preventing RMT spam.
After a certain number of blocks, a character will be temporarily banned from chatting and using the in-game mail system.
Please help us fight RMT spam by blocking them!
NOTE: anybody found abusing this system on other players will be severely sanctioned

yeah right I can see this being abused big time
Vali, you forgot to mention disapeared class weapons from awake.
Vali,

Could you please clarify the Olympiad portion of this? I know you guys announced not being able to claim the rewards for May Oly. Does this also mean we won't be able to use the npc to buy oly heal pots or will that option still remain enabled?

Bump, still looking for confirmation. Also, about this whole chat ban thing... Might I recommend that you write it so that the blocks must occur within a reasonable amount of time. So for example you make it like 25 blocks within an hour, otherwise this system is going to run into issues. I have had people rage pm me after pvp and then /block before I can respond, and heroes also tend to be individually blocked (some more than others).
You forgot that those RMT spam on party room as well(ALT+SHIFT+P)
Adventurers,




Castle Siege Changes

Due to the new Dimensional Siege system, we will be aligning all Castle Sieges on all servers on the same day.
Naia, Magmeld and Bartz Castle Sieges will happen normally on May 26th as scheduled, but the next siege after that will be on June 2nd to be aligned with Chronos and Shilen.
Chronos and Shilen will not be affected by this change.



This is no good . . . leave it on the same schedule. Let me ask; why change three servers and leave alone two servers? Wouldn't it make more sense to move two servers and leave alone three servers? Change is always a PITA; why make more change when less would work?
This is no good . . . leave it on the same schedule. Let me ask; why change three servers and leave alone two servers? Wouldn't it make more sense to move two servers and leave alone three servers? Change is always a PITA; why make more change when less would work?

Obviously the change is related to when the patch is being deployed, it just happens that Chronos and Shilen sieges are on the new correct siege day (1st weekend after patch).
There arent going to be even Rankings in olympiad ?
There arent going to be even Rankings in olympiad ?

Update on the 29th, classes being split into 34 in other words ranking will also be split into 34 instead of 8, how do you expect to have a ranking under these circumstances? :P
Update on the 29th, classes being split into 34 in other words ranking will also be split into 34 instead of 8, how do you expect to have a ranking under these circumstances? :P

I believe in magic
has anyone mention how they going forget to FIX THE **** GG ERRORS!! some of us cant play for **** REMEMBER?

please remove that piece of junk that really doesnt work ... i'm a NC COIN BUYING GUY SO DONT FORGET TO FIX THE **** GG ERRORS ..


watch who wants to bet they'll wont fix it . i read somewhere they were going fix it up the update but I HIGHLY DOUBT IT.. ..
and with gameguared still no fixed it yet???



any other company woulda had fixed it years upon years ago.
Is it possible to add a "Block sender" option in ingame mail? That will shorten the time it takes to Block them.
Is it possible to add a "Block sender" option in ingame mail? That will shorten the time it takes to Block them.

I've never gotten multiple mails from the same spammer. Blocking them on one toon is useless.
Adventurers,

New Chat Block System

With the Lindvior update, we have implemented a new system to directly involve the community into preventing RMT spam.

After a certain number of blocks, a character will be temporarily banned from chatting and using the in-game mail system.


Please help us fight RMT spam by blocking them!
NOTE: anybody found abusing this system on other players will be severely sanctioned.

It took you some time NCwest but you are listening after all!!! :D

http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?p=3253539#post3253539
Adventurers,

We are one week away from the LINEAGE II: LINDVIOR update! With that in mind we wanted to announce some upcoming changes that will take place once LINDVIOR arrives.



Mentee Certificate Removal From the Path to Awakening

With Lindvior, you do not need a mentee certificate anymore to get a mentor.
Additionally, the mentee certificate is now automatically granted to the mentee via in-game mail upon graduation at level 85
Due to this change, we will remove the mentee certificate from the Path to Awakening when Lindvior goes live.




i wonder why anyone make point for mentor penalty there is many bad ppl (mentee)-s if u are 2 days 24h on and disconnect for 20-30 min they leave you and u have 2 day penalty for nothing and they have nothing to lose i think if they have (mentee)-s penalty too they won't do that,it's unfair when u are 24h on for 3-4 days and u dc for 20-30 and for that u get kick in the *** :(
Will There Be A Web Store Gift Option Also?
Will There Be A Web Store Gift Option Also?
With Lindvior launch.
With Lindvior launch.

Are You Certain With Lindvior Launch Game Store + Web Store Gift Option Will Be Avaible?
If you look at Juji's posts... yes.
Are You Certain With Lindvior Launch Game Store + Web Store Gift Option Will Be Avaible?

Vali said so somewhere. So unless they change their mind, yes.
Gon Namkung say in Interview:
"....Olympiad will be expanded into a cross-server Olympiad using the server teleportation technology introduced in Lindvior. Heroes of each world will be pitted against each other, and PvP will become even more interesting with the improved matching system"

In all patch-notes and informations about new update I don't see any phrase talking about cross-server battles. Can you talk more detais or just say "NA servers will not support cross-server battles in this first update".


i'm guessing there was a mis-translation somewhere during the interview or something. the closest the koreans had to what is being mentioned is probably this
http://power.plaync.co.kr/lineage2/%EC%9B%94%EB%93%9C+%EC%98%AC%EB%A6%BC%ED%94%BC%EC% 95%84%EB%93%9C+%EB%8C%80%EC%A0%84
where all the heroes from all their respective servers had a little prelim then went on to fight each other for a cross-server hero ~.~
the event itself lasted about a month, much like our battle tournament, if i'm not mistaken.
And god I hope you don't *** up game guard and windows 8 compatibility again like you did on the last update, it took you what? 4 months to fix it?
i wonder why anyone make point for mentor penalty there is many bad ppl (mentee)-s if u are 2 days 24h on and disconnect for 20-30 min they leave you and u have 2 day penalty for nothing and they have nothing to lose i think if they have (mentee)-s penalty too they won't do that,it's unfair when u are 24h on for 3-4 days and u dc for 20-30 and for that u get kick in the *** :(


After finding several of this type of mentee, I decided to stop inviting anyone shouting "LF 24/7 mentor". In fact I don't take mentees any more, until they fix that stupid system and apply penalty to mentee as well. If I need something with mentee coins, I level up an alt mentee on my own.
Do Anyone Know At What Time Exactly We It Will Be Avaible To Be Upgrade? Yes We Know 29 May But At What Time Exactly?
during regular maintenance?
I guess after maintenance? Why don't you wait and see?
New Chat Block System
After a certain number of blocks, a character will be temporarily banned from chatting and using the in-game mail system.
Please help us fight RMT spam by blocking them!


if we will have at least 1000+ space to block people ill help you , cause its already full and there is no rmt trader at my list
Actually it's "10k+ NCoin" for the Agathions; the Ninja outfit, Japanese weapon appearance stone and Agathion energy recharges are FREE to those that bought them.

The Ninja outfit and Japanese weapon appearance stones will be added to the store sometime in June.


Perhaps you havent been alive long enuff to figure out...NOTHING in life is FREE...somehow someway Vali...we paying for it...you can bet on that


If it was FREE we wouldnt have to invest 10K+ nc coin...it would just show up in our WH...so your above statment is just not true...Got a calcuator on that computer of yours...see what 10K+ coin costs then come back here and tell me its Free again
Some of us cannot log in 13 days during GG error in 64 bit windows. This will be fixed in update?
Other upcoming changes with the Lindvior expansion

Multiboxing will be limited to 3 client / PC

THIS IS BULL------!

I've been playing since 2007 with 5 accounts, since a few months with 8.
Now I have to buy 2 more PC's to have my shops in game, my mentee for exp bonus, the char I play and it's buffpet...

Nice move NCSoft... maybe like 10 years to late!?!
THIS IS BULL------!

I've been playing since 2007 with 5 accounts, since a few months with 8.
Now I have to buy 2 more PC's to have my shops in game, my mentee for exp bonus, the char I play and it's buffpet...

Nice move NCSoft... maybe like 10 years to late!?!

is it /pc or /ip ?
i have 2 accounts and my wife have 2 accounts and we are behind a router :s
is it /pc or /ip ?
i have 2 accounts and my wife have 2 accounts and we are bihind a router :s

3 Per PC they say. But knowing NCSoft they'll bind it to IP address
i see just as many bots logged in in giants cave and other areas and plenty of 6 and 7 man trains so i take it the 3 accounts per pc on affects legit players?
i see just as many bots logged in in giants cave and other areas and plenty of 6 and 7 man trains so i take it the 3 accounts per pc on affects legit players?

I can imagine a couple of ways to bypass tris restrictions which doesnt necesarily mean you arent legit. I dont need more than 2-3 accounts myself so I havent bothered trying them.
Why did you change adena drops so drastically? :(
It was hard enough to get adena before too, now at every daily spot I go to, mobs drop 1/10 adena than they used to.

For example spiculas used to drop around 1000 adena/party member/mob, now they drop 200adena/member/mob. What the hell? Only one SS costs more than that and even if it was on that price, no way you would kill a mob with only one hit there.
Fine then less adena, let's deal with it. However there are less drops as well, prices of items tripled since Lindvidor, drop got tenth. Wonderfull.

Fine then let's do craft, here is my problem:
Quest rewards. Filaur in shuttgard exchanges the teredor item for requiem weapon. Let's see, 2 recipe (60%) and 10 key material (to craft one item) costs 900+ proof (of teredor quest) total. I get 9/day if I do both quests.
Let's count ... that makes 100days to craft one requiem weapon at a succes rate of 60%! 100DAYS?! ARE YOU MAD?! :confused:

I know you want to fight adena sellers and bots, but making the playing experience awfull for the real players too is not the way.
Why aren't you just log in, and ban them?
Some people's bot is so obvious, you just need to look at it, but I quess that would be too much work, instead you make a script which would stop real players log in with more than 3 clients, while the bots ignore this, and continue as they used to. Wonderfull.

In my opinion logging onto the servers a couple of times a day for a little look around would be much less work. ;)
where are all the people who said this new update was going to make everything wonderful? all the people who said things would improve when Lindvior went live? from what I see server stability and playing crying has gotten ever worse then pre Lindvior. :)


They are busy playing. ;-)