So, as you might have seen today, we’ve announced the title and logo for our newest content expansion. Lineage II: Valiance will be coming soon.
After Lindvior’s attack, an uneasy calm has descended upon Aden, as if Shilen has paused for a moment in her quest for destruction. But old threats will soon resurface and battles long thought won will begin anew. Players deep into the game will find themselves faced with new challenges and experiences that will push their skills and dedication to the limit.
A few highlights coming with Valiance include:
Updated Zone – Hellbound returns with upgraded areas and new hunting parties
Skill System – Along with more than 25 new skills added to the game, players will find that a large number of skills have been improved and/or modified. Along with that, the entire Skill System has undergone a major overhaul
Abilities – New to Lineage II, an abilities system allows players customize their skills, making them more powerful and effective
Returning Raid Bosses – Some popular bosses from Lineage II’s past will return to the world of Aden
We’ll have more information coming soon, so keep checking the site for more information in the days and weeks ahead.
What's the point of changing the chronicle name from "Epeisodion" to "Valiance"?? You're only creating confusion...
Is this some kind of merge between the updates that happened after Lindvior that we haven't seen them yet (Anakim+Lilith, etc) and the full Epeisodion expansion?
What's the point of changing the chronicle name from "Epeisodion" to "Valiance"?? You're only creating confusion...
Is this some kind of merge between the updates that happened after Lindvior that we haven't seen them yet (Anakim+Lilith, etc) and the full Epeisodion expansion?
Same happened with Lind - we got Echo updates that we were missing + Lind, now we are getting updates that came after Lind + Epei/Vali
So, as you might have seen today, we’ve announced the title and logo for our newest content expansion. Lineage II: Valiance will be coming soon.
After Lindvior’s attack, an uneasy calm has descended upon Aden, as if Shilen has paused for a moment in her quest for destruction. But old threats will soon resurface and battles long thought won will begin anew. Players deep into the game will find themselves faced with new challenges and experiences that will push their skills and dedication to the limit.
A few highlights coming with Valiance include:
Updated Zone – Hellbound returns with upgraded areas and new hunting parties
Skill System – Along with more than 25 new skills added to the game, players will find that a large number of skills have been improved and/or modified. Along with that, the entire Skill System has undergone a major overhaul
Abilities – New to Lineage II, an abilities system allows players customize their skills, making them more powerful and effective
Returning Raid Bosses – Some popular bosses from Lineage II’s past will return to the world of Aden
We’ll have more information coming soon, so keep checking the site for more information in the days and weeks ahead.
Announced to early. Only in January we will have it.
So you don't consider Falklands a part of Argentina?
Your father must be proud.
I call ******** on your laziness. Oh wait I don't. You really are. Lazy.
It's not on any major gaming sites or MMO gaming sites, so no, wherever you found it, it's not legit.
Seek more.
For what? Epeisodion, when clearly expansion will be called differently? Come on, how can release date be accurate, when even the name is wrong.
If you are talking about Terragamer, or rochand, they are not legit sources, most stuff they posted about release date is speculations
they posted about new update. so dafuq is wrong now? how it's called? as for me it can be "l2: update after lindvior"
I like it, then Raiders can be called L2: Update after Lindvior Revalations, next one L2: Update after Lindvior Reborn, then L2: Update after Lindvior: Return of Lindvior and so on
So what does Valiance means there regarding background / lore / areas / anything ingame ? Just asking since the Korean name 에피소디언 had some strong background (read there : http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?p=18368#p18368) which I can't find in Valiance (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/valiance)Valis self-advertisment, or he will start loging in-game and act like a boss?
Shh, quiet you hairy troll
Hey, watch it, I shaved my legs once...
On-topic, there was some talk about heroes (Lionna, etc.) maybe Valiance is for their bravery standing against influence of Shilen and keeping her forces at bay? (My guess)
Hey, watch it, I shaved my legs once...
On-topic, there was some talk about heroes (Lionna, etc.) maybe Valiance is for their bravery standing against influence of Shilen and keeping her forces at bay? (My guess)
That's one strong reason for the name of this update... Unfortunately, Vali's self-advertisement is becoming a new meme :p
That's one strong reason for the name of this update... Unfortunately, Vali's self-advertisement is becoming a new meme :p
I have all copyrights of that meme then :|
Laby, Ponys no longer visits my bridge, so i cant warm myself by drinking their blood
this is what terrawiki call it update after lindvior chill out
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Not fan of name, Epeisodion had nicer ring to it... Wait a sec... Vali are you self-advertising yourself via game? :O
No it has nothing to do with my name.
Same happened with Lind - we got Echo updates that we were missing + Lind, now we are getting updates that came after Lind + Epei/Vali
This will include multiple updates.
Hey, watch it, I shaved my legs once...
On-topic, there was some talk about heroes (Lionna, etc.) maybe Valiance is for their bravery standing against influence of Shilen and keeping her forces at bay? (My guess)
Valiance - the qualities of a hero or heroine; exceptional or heroic courage when facing danger (especially in battle)
This could be it, since this updates "heroine" is Lionna Blackbird (hope I spelled it right), with her battle against Beleth :p
Ding ding ding, we have two winners! The name was chosen to represent the returning emphasis on hero protagonists in the lore (Lionna Blackbird).
More information on the update will be available in the next few weeks.
Ding ding ding, we have two winners! The name was chosen to represent the returning emphasis on hero protagonists in the lore (Lionna Blackbird).
More information on the update will be available in the next few weeks.
So does it mean we actually are going to have some background with this update ? I would have expected something more detailled than using other players opinions as solution on this one :D
Edit : I may be mistaken, but judging from what I remember from Korean comics, Lionna Blackbird is leading the "Revolutionar People Army" which is sounds more like human's politics than fighting against Beleth ...
Once Lindvior was sent by Shillien to eat all drops (she was mad with something for sure), I hope we have better chance to take nice items on this new update :rolleyes:
how so? being the class with the most number of sub-classes (theres like 8 flavors of tyrr vs only 3 flavors of Yul for example) theres going to be boosts given to more players, that don't make it boosted more than appropriate.
the one boost that applies to all is the boost to berzerker allowing to be cast under 70% but AFAIK that has already been implemented.
so please, clearly i have missed what you are privy to, so lay it down and cite your source.
So, as you might have seen today, we’ve announced the title and logo for our newest content expansion. Lineage II: Valiance will be coming soon.
After Lindvior’s attack, an uneasy calm has descended upon Aden, as if Shilen has paused for a moment in her quest for destruction. But old threats will soon resurface and battles long thought won will begin anew. Players deep into the game will find themselves faced with new challenges and experiences that will push their skills and dedication to the limit.
A few highlights coming with Valiance include:
Updated Zone – Hellbound returns with upgraded areas and new hunting parties
Skill System – Along with more than 25 new skills added to the game, players will find that a large number of skills have been improved and/or modified. Along with that, the entire Skill System has undergone a major overhaul
Abilities – New to Lineage II, an abilities system allows players customize their skills, making them more powerful and effective
Returning Raid Bosses – Some popular bosses from Lineage II’s past will return to the world of Aden
We’ll have more information coming soon, so keep checking the site for more information in the days and weeks ahead.
Let me guess, Lilith and Anakim are back along with their talismans + the-so-called Seven Signs Talisman? :P
fix yul. half of the server is all yul archers now.:o. put destruction enchant weapon scrolls back please. new players need good weapon to compete with the old ones.
I'm curious as to how much stuff is going to get broken and bugged when this update comes out considering how much of the Lindvior update is still broken and/or bugged...
how so? being the class with the most number of sub-classes (theres like 8 flavors of tyrr vs only 3 flavors of Yul for example) theres going to be boosts given to more players, that don't make it boosted more than appropriate.
the one boost that applies to all is the boost to berzerker allowing to be cast under 70% but AFAIK that has already been implemented.
so please, clearly i have missed what you are privy to, so lay it down and cite your source.
-The +30% p.attk to superior weapon mastery
-Being able to use giants barrier at 70% HP
-Being able to recover 10% HP when hit for a certain amount (likely 1k damage)
-Being able to quickly cast power revival, giant's barrier
-Increased knockdown time on knockdowns and an added knockdown
-Power increase on various skills over 3 patches likely rolled into Valiance
-Cooldown increase on various skills, most importantly "Boost"
-More stuns for Dreadnought and an AOE Half/Half-kill
-More burst skills for duelist that already does considerable burst since lindvior
-A semi angel's touch and beserker rage for duelist
-Frenzy and guts, nuff said
- More burst skills for GK and an extra heal
-DB gets to chain stun rush and kill again, a physical and magic UD and more pvp damage.
-And worst of all maestros can craft more stuff!
Abilities – New to Lineage II, an abilities system allows players customize their skills, making them more powerful and effective
The game's biggest problem is the lack of customization of char (My guess).
example:
An archer lvl 95, will be identical to another archer 95 ...
few things will change, more enchanted armor, a weapon augment with a more efficient, maybe even a different Dye (very rare), but basically it will be the same ...
It would be very interesting if that changes by placing several types of customizable chars to make each one be unique, even though the same race and class.
-The +30% p.attk to superior weapon mastery
-Being able to use giants barrier at 70% HP
-Being able to recover 10% HP when hit for a certain amount (likely 1k damage)
-Being able to quickly cast power revival, giant's barrier
-Increased knockdown time on knockdowns and an added knockdown
-Power increase on various skills over 3 patches likely rolled into Valiance
-Cooldown increase on various skills, most importantly "Boost"
-More stuns for Dreadnought and an AOE Half/Half-kill
-More burst skills for duelist that already does considerable burst since lindvior
-A semi angel's touch and beserker rage for duelist
-Frenzy and guts, nuff said
- More burst skills for GK and an extra heal
-DB gets to chain stun rush and kill again, a physical and magic UD and more pvp damage.
-And worst of all maestros can craft more stuff!
call me cynical but this isnt a tyrr-wide boost then. more like 1 or 2 of the various tyrrs get goodies.
also, cooldown Increase seems kinda nerfy as opposed to Boosty...
:eek: ppl are really asking archer boost ? when all the fkg server buy subclass change to reroll bcz they know is OP! give me a break LOL
wyns cry when they are 4 clicks win :rolleyes:
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getting an major update like this should actually fix some bugs cause we'll get more alligned with Korea now hence less build diff and thus less compatible issues..
got even more broke with the ninja patch they know it but dont listen :p
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getting an major update like this should actually fix some bugs cause we'll get more alligned with Korea now hence less build diff and thus less compatible issues..
It looks like you haven't learnt anything from latest rushed updates.
Each and every update done by the new developers team adds a crapload of bugs without fixing most of old ones.
I guess most people here think it is acceptable practice. I guess they don't even remember that many chronicles ago we used to receive bug-free content.
And since the launch of GoD, every time we get exactly what they had in Korea a year ago (only translated to English) with all the bugs that got fixed in Korea afterwards, yet we receive those fixes months later, or don't receive them at all.
Looking forward to it, do this update contain the fishing update?
On top of my head, the fishing update is in Raiders, not Epeisodion/Valiance. I doubt we will receive this patch that soon. Lilith and Anakim were contained in one minor Lindvior patch, and see how long it took for NCKorea to export them overseas...
On top of my head, the fishing update is in Raiders, not Epeisodion/Valiance. I doubt we will receive this patch that soon. Lilith and Anakim were contained in one minor Lindvior patch, and see how long it took for NCKorea to export them overseas...
Is it just me or are some ppl trying to overthink on the name?
I, for one could care less what its called.
But I would like a rough estimate of when we will get it.
This year? Next year?
No it's not only you. And yes some ETA would be a nice touch even if it's something approximate.
(On the name topic I think the western version saves me from doing weird things with my tongue that are more appropriate for sexual intercourse than for pronouncing a video game update name)
... On the name topic I think the western version saves me from doing weird things with my tongue that are more appropriate for sexual intercourse than for pronouncing a video game update name.
But seriously, the renaming of Epeisodion is the result of the same kind of xenophobia that led to David Carradine instead of a Chinese actor playing a Shaolin monk(!) in the tv series Kung Fu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kung_Fu_%28TV_series%29). On the other hand, it's NCsoft's game. If they feel like it, they can call the update "Rise of the Woozles" :p
(On the name topic I think the western version saves me from doing weird things with my tongue that are more appropriate for sexual intercourse than for pronouncing a video game update name)
TMI, bro!
As for a release date, sorry but we can't release that just yet. See the image above.
Are you sure about that? Valiance isn't a 1:1 copy of Epeisodion. It will include multiple updates. More details will be released in the coming weeks.
You never said it would have been Epeisodion 1.0 or whatnot before this post :D
On top of my head, the fishing update is in Raiders, not Epeisodion/Valiance. I doubt we will receive this patch that soon. Lilith and Anakim were contained in one minor Lindvior patch, and see how long it took for NCKorea to export them overseas...
Fishing rewards for opening the fishes get revamped, and you don't fish monsters anymore. Instead, you have a chance to fish a Golden Girl who will give you a reward, or something like that.
Fishing rewards for opening the fishes get revamped, and you don't fish monsters anymore. Instead, you have a chance to fish a Golden Girl who will give you a reward, or something like that.
Are you sure about that? Valiance isn't a 1:1 copy of Epeisodion. It will include multiple updates. More details will be released in the coming weeks.
For everybody:
With the Fishing update in Raiders the Proofs of Catching a Fish will be phased out, any remaining Proofs can be turned in at the Aden Reconstruction NPCs: http://lineage2.plaync.co.kr/board/update/view?articleId=552300
This means you won't be able to use those Proofs to expand your Inventory etc. any more and will have to pay real money for it. So you best go fishing NOW! :D
For everybody:
With the Fishing update in Raiders the Proofs of Catching a Fish will be phased out, any remaining Proofs can be turned in at the Aden Reconstruction NPCs: http://lineage2.plaync.co.kr/board/update/view?articleId=552300
This means you won't be able to use those Proofs to expand your Inventory etc. any more and will have to pay real money for it. So you best go fishing NOW! :D
-Existing fishing related skills were removed.
are you sure?
[낚시]
1. 낚시 시스템 개선에 따라 2013년 8월 21일(수) 정기점검 *********후 '어획의 증표'를 ********* *********상 사용하지 않도록 변경********* 예정입니다.
- 사용하지 않는 '어획의 증표' 아*********템은 아덴 재건 연합원 NPC를 통해 소모********* 수 있도록 변경********* 예정입니다. http://lineage2.plaync.co.kr/board/update/view?articleId=552300
[Fishing]
1. As a consequence of the improvements to the Fishing System, it will not be possible any more to use "Proofs of Catching a Fish" after the regular maintenance on Wednesday, August 21 [when Raiders went live in Korea].
- It will be possible to spend the "Proofs of Catching a Fish" that can't be used [for their original purpose] any more via the Aden Reconstruction Society NPCs.
Please note the date on the announcement. NCKorea warned their players two weeks in advance of the impending change. It would be good if Vali could post a similar official statement here on this forum.
낚시 변경 사항
...
- 기존 낚시 관련 스킬********* 일괄 삭제되었다.
- 기존 낚시 스킬********* 삭제되면서 해당 스킬을 습득하는데 소모된 아데나는 개인 창고로 지급된다. http://power.plaync.co.kr/lineage2/%EB%A0%88%EC%9D%B4%EB%8D%94%EC%8A%A4+%EC%8B%9C%EC% 8A%A4%ED%85%9C
Fishing Changes
...
- The old Fishing Skills are summarily removed.
- If any old Fishing Skills were removed, the adena used to learn those skills will be paid to [the player's] Private Warehouse.
Fortunately the NCKorea people did not yet get around to deleting the old Expand Inventory page: http://power.plaync.co.kr/lineage2/%EC%9D%B5%EC%8A%A4%ED%8C%AC%EB%93%9C+%EC%9D%B8%EB% B2%A4%ED%86%A0%EB%A6%AC
As you can see, it has not been changed, there is only the Proofs of Catching a Fish (어획의 증표), which are not available any more as of Raiders. All that will be left then are the items you buy from the Galleria for real money :D
It would really be nice if pets got a update. My Chicken(kookaburra) gets fried for dinner and I don't even bother using it anymore. Should name it "Colonel Sanders"
It would really be nice if pets got a update. My Chicken(kookaburra) gets fried for dinner and I don't even bother using it anymore. Should name it "Colonel Sanders"
Those poor animals have been neglected for so long...
hahaha probably in more ways than PETA can shake a stick at!
There's probably someone from PETA floating around here... Just waiting to strike.
Ahh..Just to frolic on my wolf waving my sword around doesn't feel the same anymore.
It's Epeisodion and it's a Greek word... I guess they picked Valiance because it's English, easier to pronounce and remember and alludes to a lore centered around political turmoil and warfare...
It's Epeisodion and it's a Greek word... I guess they picked Valiance because it's English, easier to pronounce and remember and alludes to a lore centered around political turmoil and warfare...
You have no idea what is Epeisodion or Prelude or Interlude right?
Also unwillingly I make a comparison between Koreans and Americans and I feel pitty for the latter.
PS. I still think that Episode would be better than Valiance. There is a reason NCSoft called it that way.
Also Episodion = Epeisodion = Episode = Epeisodio = Επεισόδιο = Επεισόδιον.
It is about how you write it, how you pronounce it and if it is in Greek, Ancient Greek or English. The meaning is always the same.
You have no idea what is Epeisodion or Prelude or Interlude right?
what it has to do one with another, epeisodion with prelude or interlude?
btw raiders gonna be like some sort of interlude and i doubt we will get it this update. see the date of fishing changes? yea its 2 months old for us and we all remember that we barely get half year old updates.
Tiferet, having both a classical education and being a Rochand regular, knows this of course. She was just explaining to Aaliyah the (in my eyes utterly despicable) thought processes of the management that led to the name change.
And Aaliyah is right, it is quite remarkable that Asian developers came up with this Greek term in the first place and then saw no problem with their main player base accepting it as the name of an update. For our American friends, however, pronouncing the word "epeisodion" seems to be an insurmountable intellectual hurdle :D
As for Raiders not being included in the upcoming update, there I tend to agree with you. Vali probably has confused something in his statement (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=262019&page=4#68) on October 17. I guess there will be a Russian PTS again. Then we will know more about the build of the export version :)
fix yul. half of the server is all yul archers now.:o. put destruction enchant weapon scrolls back please. new players need good weapon to compete with the old ones.
This..
It would really be nice if pets got a update. My Chicken(kookaburra) gets fried for dinner and I don't even bother using it anymore. Should name it "Colonel Sanders"
This...
And this:
- Permanently put a dual class change service
- Permanently put a main to dual change service
- Permanently put Destruction enchant scrolls on NCstore so we can compete with Jedis
as i understand this is caling valiance coz we have multiupdate means :
Valiance=Epeisodion + Valiance coz there are two updates we skip name of patch Epeisodion coz is logical that valiance have inside already Epeisodion
what i understand in mine minde is
Valiance=Epeisodion + Valiance
but
Epeisodion not=Valiance coz is older patch cant have inside name of valiance more new one so thats why this update caling Valiance not Epeisodion
also dont expect that we gona have same like Korean server coz we never have full patches like they.
and same raiders=Epeisodion + Valiance+raiders so name of ptach in Korea is the new one last raiders
There never was a Valiance update in Korea. This is a name that was made up by NCWest (or their superiors in Korea), for the reasons stated by Tiferet on the previous page.
There are indeed many many updates in Korea, almost every week, and in the early phases of Epeisodion almost every day: http://lineage2.plaync.co.kr/board/update/list
But those updates don't have names. The sequence goes Lindvior (which includes Lilith and Anakim) -> Epeisodion -> Raiders.
What beleaua and I were discussing was the cut-off point. My personal bet would be June 12, when after heavy protests in Korea the Ability System was fundamentally changed: http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=1062&start=40#p20174
That's an academic discussion. As soon as there is a Russian PTS we will know. Alternatively Juji could log into his QA server and talk to the Fishing Guild Member in any Grocery. If he sees this on the Sell Fish tab, we will get Raiders:
She was just explaining to Aaliyah the (in my eyes utterly despicable) thought processes of the management that led to the name change.
Thought process? :rolleyes:
If it was the Korean management, it's just another proof that they take Western (or more specifically American) players as stupid and uneducated people. If it was the NCWest management... No words :D
Tiferet, having both a classical education and being a Rochand regular, knows this of course. She was just explaining to Aaliyah the (in my eyes utterly despicable) thought processes of the management that led to the name change.
And Aaliyah is right, it is quite remarkable that Asian developers came up with this Greek term in the first place and then saw no problem with their main player base accepting it as the name of an update. For our American friends, however, pronouncing the word "epeisodion" seems to be an insurmountable intellectual hurdle :D
As for Raiders not being included in the upcoming update, there I tend to agree with you. Vali probably has confused something in his statement (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=262019&page=4#68) on October 17. I guess there will be a Russian PTS again. Then we will know more about the build of the export version :)
well i know what epeisodion/episode means, i have the same greek word in my language and one meaning, besides the english one too, is the same... its a part in a greek play that comes before exode but i still dont find it similar to an interlude because it means it has several parts while interlude, besides being a latin name/term and not greek one, is only one part, an interval.
i was thinking about raiders being more of an interlude because they will probably bring fafurion or such (and idk how long they can continue waiting) in next updates.
i dont get the change either, so its not ok to have a greek name like epeisodion as a title (btw we have many greek names in the game) but its ok to have titles from all over the rest of europe (freya tauti whatever)?
i wonder how russians will call it.
AFAIK Fafurion is still up in the air ("It will come later" - dev. dixit).
Rumours about Lindvior raid were floating ever since Freya update, so I believe Fafurion will be considered as an addition in a 2-3 years timespan :D
well i know what epeisodion/episode means, i have the same greek word in my language and one meaning, besides the english one too, is the same... its a part in a greek play that comes before exode but i still dont find it similar to an interlude because it means it has several parts while interlude, besides being a latin name/term and not greek one, is only one part, an interval.
i was thinking about raiders being more of an interlude because they will probably bring fafurion or such (and idk how long they can continue waiting) in next updates.
You are right, "interlude" is not exactly the same as "epeisodion", more approximately :)
As far as considering Raiders an interlude is concerned, that's not completely wrong. Remember, the Interlude update (with a capital "I") came before the Kamael, and Raiders seems to come before the Ertheia/Arteia update: http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1136
On the other hand, Raiders is also an episode in the "several parts" meaning. In Epeisodion we have Lionna Blackbird, in Raiders Aria Firstmatter. Both are server patron saints/hero archetypes, what Chief Developer Nam Taek-lim talked about when he explained the name "Epeisodion" in April :)
Reiterating: I think we have been heading in the wrong direction these past few updates. The PK penalty system, I believe, was designed to prevent newbie griefing. However, perma reds are relegated to only killing LOWBIES under this ridiculous system. If the underlining intent of the PK Penalty System was to protect those sniveling new players from the emotional trauma of virtual deaths, the system fails miserably?
News flash: the only way PKers can kill these days without being instantly dropped, is hunting LOW LEVEL characters.
Gone are the days of being hunted down, fighting off their assaults as I make a hastily escape. As many of us know these last few updates have crushed a great feature of the game. I can’t believe fishing is still in the game and PKing was squashed. Will gardening be added in the next update for more ACTION?
Who cares about the name? I mean, how many **** times do people need to post about the name of an update, like it matters?
Reasons may vary depending on individuals.
For me:
The most important thing is that you lose the meaning. (The story behind the game, the logical sequence...) The update loses it's significance from one point of view. Especially when you already know it's true name given by the creators.
Also it will be another fail for the game if on some later update referrals are made to Epeisodion. (Either with some in game text or with some announcement).* You know it's hard to keep track of everything when they don't have the exact same names, ids etc...
*Unless the people that make the translations keep their jobs forever at NCWest.
Reasons may vary depending on individuals.
For me:
The most important thing is that you lose the meaning. (The story behind the game, the logical sequence...) The update loses it's significance from one point of view. Especially when you already know it's true name given by the creators.
Also it will be another fail for the game if on some later update referrals are made to Epeisodion. (Either with some in game text or with some announcement).* You know it's hard to keep track of everything when they don't have the exact same names, ids etc...
*Unless the people that make the translations keep their jobs forever at NCWest.
The name does not effect Gameplay, or Content. That's my point. A name is just a name, aside from 'Lore' has no bearing whatsoever on the game.
It doesn't matter what the update is called, (for all I care it could be called Sparkles) it's still the same game. Besides, name changes occur frequently when translations are made for games.
The team responsible for content conversion from Korean to English hasn't cared about getting names correct from the very beginning, why would they care about a title to an update?
Any chance the developers could fix a blatant translation error? While I agree conversion from Korean to English may not be very simple this error should have been identified, by the QA team, 5 years ago.
Treasure hunting is the search for real treasure, while a Bounty Hunter captures fugitives for a monetary reward (bounty). I am not sure where the confusion occurred but it seems we could fix this some how.
The team responsible for content conversion from Korean to English hasn't cared about getting names correct from the very beginning, why would they care about a title to an update?
I agree with those that feel we should cry about other topics... like the PK Penalty System
Let's just eat some cookies and watch them try to understand this.
I guess they got stuck with the Bounty Hunter/Treasure Hunter swap because it was already settled for quite some years. Correcting it would have introduced confusion among the players, used to different names...
No one really cares about the name(s) of the patches, as they have nothing to do with what's in the patch it's self. But Gate keepers on the other hand should have the right names for the places in the list. (Like Adens GK says entrance to imperial tomb, when it should be entrance to cemetery.)
Hey guys, can u marge Bartz with another server, cuz this server is so dead, the few ppl who are still playing on this server, are leaving the game for the few ppl logged on bartz.
So plz try to do something with that server
Hey guys, can u marge Bartz with another server, cuz this server is so dead, the few ppl who are still playing on this server, are leaving the game for the few ppl logged on bartz.
So plz try to do something with that server
Dead? You must be on at the wrong time, because I've seen quite a few people running around.
tomorrow (friday) NCJapan will have the first notes for the "export" version.
Depends what you call export version. The export version of the real Episodion patch, or the export version currently under testing of Innova that contains Post Lindvior, Episodion and Raiders? Last info (Novemeber Community letter) from Innova GM/CM's is that their version finished translations and internal testing and is going up on PTS this month.
Would be really nice if Vali, Juji or any NCWest GM would come forward this week with info about what our patch will contain. Will it be just a translated version of the Korean Episodion patch or will it be the full export version Innova received containing the past 3 big updates? If we won't receive the same patch as Innova does I can predict people leaving to Innova servers because of being able to play most recent version of the game in a less botted environment.
Depends what you call export version. The export version of the real Episodion patch, or the export version currently under testing of Innova that contains Post Lindvior, Episodion and Raiders? Last info (Novemeber Community letter) from Innova GM/CM's is that their version finished translations and internal testing and is going up on PTS this month.
Would be really nice if Vali, Juji or any NCWest GM would come forward this week with info about what our patch will contain. Will it be just a translated version of the Korean Episodion patch or will it be the full export version Innova received containing the past 3 big updates? If we won't receive the same patch as Innova does I can predict people leaving to Innova servers because of being able to play most recent version of the game in a less botted environment.
The export versions for NCWest, NCTaiwan etc. are nowadays basically all the same. When you scroll down on the Japanese preview page I linked above, you can see from the pictures that Japan gets the upgraded Seeds as of Raiders (http://power.plaync.co.kr/lineage2/%EB%A0%88%EC%9D%B4%EB%8D%94%EC%8A%A4+%EC%82%AC%EB% 83%A5%ED%84%B0). Innova also gets Raiders, and with the "medium update" in the post random linked, Juji also means Raiders (the "large" one is Epeisodion, the "small" one is Anakim/Lilith).
Exactly. If we get only half of Raiders, because of Weekly updates NCWest never receives (or ninja'd) it's hard for us to determine the exact content of our update. With this big export-version NCKorea really shows that they want to have 1 version of their game around the globe, making support easier. Especially since NCWest is running a different version than Innova, NCTaiwan and NCJapan. With just 1 version in the wild, bug fixes should come within mere days not months. If a bug fix works in Korea, it should work on all other servers because of same server version. And this would benefit everybody.
I don't know if I'm correct... but... all other chronicles have a CG movie / gameplay video, I search in youtube about epeisodion / valiance intro and don't found anything... is this update the first update without preview movie?
I don't know if I'm correct... but... all other chronicles have a CG movie / gameplay video, I search in youtube about epeisodion / valiance intro and don't found anything... is this update the first update without preview movie?
out of film reel
Among other things it gets revealed that Embryo is a cadre organization within the Lords of Dawn and that Iason Heine, who is already shown to be a shady character in the first of the Kekropus Letter quests, is indeed a (low-ranking) member of Embryo.
What about the droprate ( adena / armor etc )
Clanhall info ? :/
grtz
The only info published now are important changes that remove vital parts of the game. Like the usage of SP. The rest of the info, will come within a few weeks, when all patchnotes are translated and tested.