There better be a L2 classic for North America, or at least a way for me to get on the Euro servers. I would gladly pay a subscription on a populated classic server with no item shop.
I myself was waiting on this EU Classic server with about 10 or more NA players. So any information from NCwest would be nice. Think they might mention something tomorrow on maintenance day? or they don't wait till Wednesday anymore?
Guys we should cry with one strong voice. We want too L2 CLASSIC in NORTH and SOUTH AMERICAS
My dream is play on server with NO BOTS in GAME and with no ADENA SELLERS, BUT will NCSOFT create the server on which only money will be payment from players? and not money from ADENA companies sellers?
:D
Guys we should cry with one strong voice. We want too L2 CLASSIC in NORTH and SOUTH AMERICAS
My dream is play on server with NO BOTS in GAME and with no ADENA SELLERS, BUT will NCSOFT create the server on which only money will be payment from players? and not money from ADENA companies sellers?
:D
Your dream will never come true.
Pay to play servers won't stop bots or RMT, if anything they will be worse because of the terrible drop rates of Classic. Classic is nothing more than Ertheia with Infinite Odyssey drop rates running modified C1 scripts.
Back when the game was pay to play there were bots and adena sellers everywhere.
I doubt NCWest will open a Classic server since they cannot even handle the ones they have now. Plus with EU having their own Classic servers with their decent anti bot software (Frost) will attract 80% of anybody from North America. I never had any problems with ping while playing on EU servers so I don't see too many issues.
see a big issue !!
Well North ans South Americas can't play on Europe server L2 Classic
GM Amarantha from ****** posted this thext:
Fellow adventurers!
Together we have made a lot of work to make Lineage 2 Classic happen in Europe. It has been a long wait, but now we can announce it officially:
We shall be bringing Lineage 2 Classic to Europe!
Thank you for your commitment and your interest in the project! It wouldn't have happened without your participation and your votes.
And here come some of the most important things you have to know about the future project:
Pre-order is expected to start this autumn.
As we would like to provide the best gaming experience for our players, Lineage 2 Classic will be subscription-based. Subscription fee will be revealed upon the start of preorder or earlier.
As much as we regret to say, our service will not be available for players from North and South America.
To be the first to get the latest updates on the project follow us:
You will be able to, you just need to know how. If North and South America can play on RU servers with some help then EU won't be an issue. Like RU there will be a payment system that is not actually available in the US, but there are ways around that.
Easiest way will be to set your Windows region to Europe, same as setting it to Russian region to get around their location checks.
see a big issue !!
Well North ans South Americas can't play on Europe server L2 Classic
GM Amarantha from ****** posted this thext:
Fellow adventurers!
Together we have made a lot of work to make Lineage 2 Classic happen in Europe. It has been a long wait, but now we can announce it officially:
We shall be bringing Lineage 2 Classic to Europe!
Thank you for your commitment and your interest in the project! It wouldn't have happened without your participation and your votes.
And here come some of the most important things you have to know about the future project:
Pre-order is expected to start this autumn.
As we would like to provide the best gaming experience for our players, Lineage 2 Classic will be subscription-based. Subscription fee will be revealed upon the start of preorder or earlier.
As much as we regret to say, our service will not be available for players from North and South America.
To be the first to get the latest updates on the project follow us:
I'm not believing, the most of the 15999 votes for coming server UP, was from Americans, South and North, WTF????? omfg
A point to consider:
Lineage 2 Classic uses a unified client and a unified server selection screen. The servers in the upper part of the screenshot here are the regular ones, the servers in the lower part, marked with a yellow "C", are the Classics: http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=1461&start=90#p31396
If Europe would IP-ban players from North and South America, those people would automatically be excluded from Core, where apparently quite a number of Americans are playing. In other words, such a discrimination would lead to a financial loss for the company that manages those servers on a licence from NCsoft, i.e. less royalties for Mother NC. I am not sure whether yesterday's announcement has been properly thought through.
A point to consider:
Lineage 2 Classic uses a unified client and a unified server selection screen. The servers in the upper part of the screenshot here are the regular ones, the servers in the lower part, marked with a yellow "C", are the Classics: http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=1461&start=90#p31396
If Europe would IP-ban players from North and South America, those people would automatically be excluded from Core, where apparently quite a number of Americans are playing. In other words, such a discrimination would lead to a financial loss for the company that manages those servers on a licence from NCsoft, i.e. less royalties for Mother NC. I am not sure whether yesterday's announcement has been properly thought through.
that's how it works in Korea, they can spawn a separate login server for classic if they want to, cost $0 USD if it's virtualized
"Answering to your most important question; yes, players with North and South America IPs won't be able to purchase subscriptions and/or enter the game."
Maybe NCwest will open a classic server...
Here's to hoping. :)
People would pay to play a "classic" L2, that has 1/6 adena drop rate.
I loved the original prelude and all that it included (low rates for xp and adena lol) . I know the old school "hardcore mode" of the game is not for everyone but I am sure there are NA and SA players out there that would love it also.
inb4 cry about adena drop need3baygold.
People who want a "classic" version of the game are well aware of the drop rates and that is part of what draws them to it. We want the challenge, the journey and the friendships that come along with grind! :D
I loved the original prelude and all that it included (low rates for xp and adena lol) . I know the old school "hardcore mode" of the game is not for everyone but I am sure there are NA and SA players out there that would love it also.
People who want a "classic" version of the game are well aware of the drop rates and that is part of what draws them to it. We want the challenge, the journey and the friendships that come along with grind! :D
Someone who gets it. Prelude-C3 were the best times imo, and I would gladly pay subscription to play it.
Someone who gets it. Prelude-C3 were the best times imo, and I would gladly pay subscription to play it.
RIGHT!
Prelude - c3 was definitely the best!
I started playing in the original beta. I stuck with the game all the way till c5 and I built friendships that have lasted to this day. The only reason my friends and I left L2 is because of the COPIOUS amount of bots and we didn't like the direction the game was going.
The old game was very group oriented. Back then, it was less common for 1 player to have an entire group boxed (I'm not saying it didn't happen...I'm just saying it was much less common). You would find groups and have active buffers and healers and you formed bonds and made friends. I would gladly pay for a sub(or 3) again if it meant that I got to play "classic".
"Answering to your most important question; yes, players with North and South America IPs won't be able to purchase subscriptions and/or enter the game."
Maybe NCwest will open a classic server...
Here's to hoping. :)
Maybe they will open it.
And who cares? it will be botland, nobody will EVER play classic server covered with bots.
Won't happen, no one would play. You forget how slow it actually was. How many months did it take to hit lvl 20? Running from town to town because you couldn't afford teleports. Die to a mob and drop your precious gear only to have someone grab it before you can run back. I took a day off work to do my first class change! Sitting as much as fighting to regen mp/hp. The memories were fond but I really doubt anyone would stick to it more then a day or 2.
Won't happen, no one would play. You forget how slow it actually was. How many months did it take to hit lvl 20? Running from town to town because you couldn't afford teleports. Die to a mob and drop your precious gear only to have someone grab it before you can run back. I took a day off work to do my first class change! Sitting as much as fighting to regen mp/hp. The memories were fond but I really doubt anyone would stick to it more then a day or 2.
Well, I hate to admit it but I was a total nolifer, So it didn't take "months" to hit 20 lol..more like weeks. :p
With all this Classic talk, and the amount of NA/SA that are upset about being blocked from the EU Classic Project.. Just proves to me that NCwest does not care.. It doesn't take more then 5 minutes for someone to gather what information they do have, and to share it with this community and to keep the hype NA/SA needs. Yes it has only been a day and some for the Release and go ahead for the EU Classic Project. But sadly you will continue to lose customers rapidly day by day.. to this Project. Something tells me this wasn't thought through.
Are there still active Admins that reply to these forums? After being blocked from EU my clan and I are now waiting on an announcement from Ncwest. Which none of us are sure that they plan on doing classic. I did see the Omeed twitter post about the Lineage 2 development team was doing "secret" things lol so hopefully they come through but if we dont hear anything by time ****** releases we will go there :(
I tried out the Russian Classic. It's easy to get to Lv 20. Even to Lv 24, but then it's ridiculous. The mobs at Lv 24 are stronger than you are because there is no money for gear or shots, and you have no buffs. You have a weapon with 17 patk, so only characters with DoTs can kill anything. The players with weaker resolve will either quit or start ebaying because they can't advance. The hardcore legits party to kill solo mobs for 56 exp and 3 adena each.
Then there's the endless waves of griefers who perma stun you (one dwarf can keep two people in stun lock, with the duration and cooldown) waiting for you to die to mobs and pop like a pinata. Or the party of guys who run a high-level aoe mob to the low level areas to grief lowbies resting MP by the roads. Griefers are also ebayers, since they need that advantage in order to grief successfully.
The only reason to play Classic is 1. play all day every day and "win" the server, but who has time for this? Anyone who played in 2003 is now a proper adult with responsibilities. 2. to cheat, grief, PK, and make kids cry, as some people apparently live to do. Anyone looking for an enjoyable Lineage experience is best to stay away from Classic, unless EU/NA makes it carebear.
Addtionally it's a hybrid of Classic and Modern L2. Magical damage is not static like it was back then, and mobs evade nukes. I made a Wizard and I had considerable problems with missing my nukes. With like 300 casting speed, that's a life and death issue!
I tried out the Russian Classic. It's easy to get to Lv 20. Even to Lv 24, but then it's ridiculous. The mobs at Lv 24 are stronger than you are because there is no money for gear or shots, and you have no buffs. You have a weapon with 17 patk, so only characters with DoTs can kill anything. The players with weaker resolve will either quit or start ebaying because they can't advance. The hardcore legits party to kill solo mobs for 56 exp and 3 adena each.
Then there's the endless waves of griefers who perma stun you (one dwarf can keep two people in stun lock, with the duration and cooldown) waiting for you to die to mobs and pop like a pinata. Or the party of guys who run a high-level aoe mob to the low level areas to grief lowbies resting MP by the roads. Griefers are also ebayers, since they need that advantage in order to grief successfully.
The only reason to play Classic is 1. play all day every day and "win" the server, but who has time for this? Anyone who played in 2003 is now a proper adult with responsibilities. 2. to cheat, grief, PK, and make kids cry, as some people apparently live to do. Anyone looking for an enjoyable Lineage experience is best to stay away from Classic, unless EU/NA makes it carebear.
Addtionally it's a hybrid of Classic and Modern L2. Magical damage is not static like it was back then, and mobs evade nukes. I made a Wizard and I had considerable problems with missing my nukes. With like 300 casting speed, that's a life and death issue!
There will ALWAYS be someone ahead of you. The point is not to reach top lvl fast, but to keep playing and pay attention to small details of the game. I have friends that will only be playing a couple of hours a day and they don't mind because that is what they are signing up for. I, on the other hand, am semi retired so I will be on... all the time.
It is a bit of a hybrid but I feel like they kept alot of the good changes..IE sleep slower cast speed/frenzy nerf/hate works in pvp. Basically they kept the class balances(for the most part).
I tried out the Russian Classic. It's easy to get to Lv 20. Even to Lv 24, but then it's ridiculous. The mobs at Lv 24 are stronger than you are because there is no money for gear or shots, and you have no buffs. You have a weapon with 17 patk, so only characters with DoTs can kill anything. The players with weaker resolve will either quit or start ebaying because they can't advance. The hardcore legits party to kill solo mobs for 56 exp and 3 adena each.
Then there's the endless waves of griefers who perma stun you (one dwarf can keep two people in stun lock, with the duration and cooldown) waiting for you to die to mobs and pop like a pinata. Or the party of guys who run a high-level aoe mob to the low level areas to grief lowbies resting MP by the roads. Griefers are also ebayers, since they need that advantage in order to grief successfully.
The only reason to play Classic is 1. play all day every day and "win" the server, but who has time for this? Anyone who played in 2003 is now a proper adult with responsibilities. 2. to cheat, grief, PK, and make kids cry, as some people apparently live to do. Anyone looking for an enjoyable Lineage experience is best to stay away from Classic, unless EU/NA makes it carebear.
Addtionally it's a hybrid of Classic and Modern L2. Magical damage is not static like it was back then, and mobs evade nukes. I made a Wizard and I had considerable problems with missing my nukes. With like 300 casting speed, that's a life and death issue!
Personally I hate GoD and everything that came after it with a passion that burns like 1000 suns. However I was 20 when l2 launched in the west and had all the time in the world to play, which is no longer the case. So I'd probably play classic, casually, in a heartbeat even if it's rehashed content, even if I 've already done the grind to 75 in B grade etc.
The impression I have on the Classic project is that things will be different. Content being different that is... giving glads a ranged stun.. warlords 85+ ranged stun at 42. of course other melee classes would benefit from this... but this is exciting to me.. hopefully the classic team creates new content we haven't experienced yet.. and bring lineage 2 in a different direction and not towards the GOD updates.
so NCWEST say something... Refuel the fire and explain to us why you stopped NA/SA from playing EU? Lets hear NA Classic gogogogo
Anyone who played in 2003 is now a proper adult with responsibilities.
lol, reading hero/world chat, I really wonder if that is the case. Adults physically maybe, but proper adults with responsibilities I have a hard time believing in a lot of cases.
And I also have a few fond memories of playing in 2004, but right now I'd rather kill myself slowly by papercut than have to grind levels like I used to. I also agree that a paid server wouldn't keep bots away, there were plenty way back when and there would be plenty now.
I understand looking at old L2 through rose-colored glasses, but it's tough to hold onto that when you're picking 17 adena off the ground soloing outside Dion, then your clanmate says hey, want to party in Abandoned Camp, and you say, sure give me 30 minutes to run there.
Personally I gave up due to lag spikes, to work so hard then have a solid 10 seconds of clicking-but-nothing-happening and then have died and lost 10% and dropped some suede and a ring, was the straw that broke this camel's back.
Then you remember that you have to have wc-sws-bd-ee-bish + 4 DD's, and even if you were considerate enough to play support, your DD buddies all want to be daggers and friggin' gladi's (they get stun!) when you're in a 900 ranged fight and melee are useless! And all the people who know how to form proper parties play 8 hours a day and there's no room for a casual player.
Today i was reading new.... And i find the new new about the classico server this is going tobe really fun!!!!!!!!!!
I can not wait for me to start my tirant in the classico server and start the best clan: Only orcs from brazil that will dominate pve stage of the server
we all known pve wins pvp so expect us to be extremly good at pvp too.
I really want to congratulate all ncsoft staf for making the game alive again and give all the oportunity to enjoy this new server.
I know majority of the players want that feel of when L2 radio was still around. Towns were still crowded and people still played. C1 to C5 were the best times . Finding groups in Gludio and dion and hunting Ant nest/cruma tower. Just hope Ncwest follows suit or they will lose business to 1nnova. Even if we all have to vpn. I'm not sure whats going to happen though seems like 1nnova has a dedicated staff and not one moderator or admin has responded to the most traffic these forums have probably had in ages.:(:(:(:(:(:confused::confused::confused::conf used::confused:
I can not wait for me to start my tirant in the classico server and start the best clan: Only orcs from brazil that will dominate pve stage of the server.
In Korean Classic, which is several updates ahead, there is so far no Subclass System. That means only Orc classes in an Orc-only clan. While you can make do without Bladedancer and Swordsinger, a party without a proper Healer and Recharger won't be able to hunt efficiently. In Classic there are no Herb drops - you either bring a Shillien Elder or your Tyrant will spend most of his time sitting and recovering MP :)
In Korean Classic, which is several updates ahead, there is so far no Subclass System. That means only Orc classes in an Orc-only clan. While you can make do without Bladedancer and Swordsinger, a party without a proper Healer and Recharger won't be able to hunt efficiently. In Classic there are no Herb drops - you either bring a Shillien Elder or your Tyrant will spend most of his time sitting and recovering MP :)
I would suggest the brazilian buddy, to make some kind of dark side, including orcs, dark elfs, and few rebels/traitors from other races ! I would join :cool:
Today i was reading new.... And i find the new new about the classico server this is going tobe really fun!!!!!!!!!!
I can not wait for me to start my tirant in the classico server and start the best clan: Only orcs from brazil that will dominate pve stage of the server
we all known pve wins pvp so expect us to be extremly good at pvp too.
I really want to congratulate all ncsoft staf for making the game alive again and give all the oportunity to enjoy this new server.
How many old school players are still around (Devianne player here)?
How many people who remember the grind and knowing what they know now about the game and the grind, would still want to play on a classic server?
But if the IP ban is really enforced on both sides of the Atlantic, people like lotek will of course play in Europe :)
Wasnt ppl outside from russia unable to play the classic there?Or this was a misunderstood from my side?
PS:Ïdk if true but also there was strong rumors about instinct pt(Strongest pt on classic)Using 3rd party programs on pvp i think i saw some vids on goha but hard to catch them up again :/
I wouldn't know about PvP programs on Classic, but the company who manages the game on a licence from NCsoft is pretty much on their toes when it comes to such things. In the first one or two weeks there was indeed noticeable botting (back then they had a 1/6 drop rate; now it's 1/2 compared to the original Chronicles). But then there was a big ban wave - i.e. people were not blocked by Frost but manually banned - and now it seems to be fairly legit :p
I wouldn't know about PvP programs on Classic, but the company who manages the game on a licence from NCsoft is pretty much on their toes when it comes to such things. In the first one or two weeks there was indeed noticeable botting (back then they had a 1/6 drop rate; now it's 1/2 compared to the original Chronicles). But then there was a big ban wave - i.e. people were not blocked by Frost but manually banned - and now it seems to be fairly legit :p
Cheaters :D
Well all looks good but also theres a high FOTM on this kinda game since ppl think is easy to go on top but its actually harder than god :D.I think was pretty big delusion already in some countries and server had to merge due to the bleeding of players :/
Mages are the meta there go every1 make a mage :P
Well all looks good but also theres a high FOTM on this kinda game since ppl think is easy to go on top but its actually harder than god :D.I think was pretty big delusion already in some countries and server had to merge due to the bleeding of players :/
That's right. Both Korea and Russia are down from originally 5 servers to now 2 servers per territory, with one server active at around 5000 players online and the other server with about half that: http://l2.laby.fr/status/
(Talking Island and Gludio are the Classic servers)
This is sort of built into the system - since there are no Newbie Buffs and no Herb drops on Classic, you can't play solo but absolutely need a party. And since you will find a party only on a high-population server, everybody makes their character on the one high-population server. The online numbers you see on Laby's server meter have been more or less stable for the last few months. So this is the kind of business that NCWest can expect in the long run after the FOTM players have left.
To say it clearly again:
Lineage 2 Classic is not only harder than GoD, it is harder than the original Chronicles. Depending on which drop rate NCWest will adopt, it is 6 times harder in the Korean version and still twice as hard in the Russian version.
That's right. Both Korea and Russia are down from originally 5 servers to now 2 servers per territory, with one server active at around 5000 players online and the other server with about half that: http://l2.laby.fr/status/
(Talking Island and Gludio are the Classic servers)
This is sort of built into the system - since there are no Newbie Buffs and no Herb drops on Classic, you can't play solo but absolutely need a party. And since you will find a party only on a high-population server, everybody makes their character on the one high-population server. The online numbers you see on Laby's server meter have been more or less stable for the last few months. So this is the kind of business that NCWest can expect in the long run after the FOTM players have left.
To say it clearly again:
Lineage 2 Classic is not only harder than GoD, it is harder than the original Chronicles. Depending on which drop rate NCWest will adopt, it is 6 times harder in the Korean version and still twice as hard in the Russian version.
Honestly i dont see enough ppl to make it worth lol.Hardcore gamers are long gone :)
Honestly i dont see enough ppl to make it worth lol.
Russia is now supporting the Classic servers with increased L2Store promotions on their regular servers: http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=1303&start=690#p32025
But Russia has Premium Accounts aka monthly subscriptions, i.e. a regular income, from their Infinite Odyssey servers. All profit generated from the L2Store is extra and can be used for whatever they like.
NCWest, on the other hand, must already generate all their Infinite Odyssey revenue from the L2Store; there is no extra money to be pumped into running the Classic servers. Even if Juji might be able to shoulder the additional burden of Dual Producer, you still need additional support ticket takers, QA staff and whatnot. The Classic servers won't run themselves by themselves with NCsoft just counting the monthly subscription fees coming in. Even for just that task they would need an additional accountant :p
Like I said on the first page of this thread, Taiwan has cancelled the launch of Lineage 2 Classic one day before the announced date, with a website (http://lineage2.plaync.com.tw/classic/news/list.asp) and everything already in place. Opening a Classic server is not as easy as it sounds :)
Well, I have pretty much decided to play on the EU classic. I have found some of the old: Fate, FrostTribe and DI guys from back in the OLD days of Devianne and I'll be joining up with them.
I checking out L2 music and vids the other day and was thinking to myself what a great idea it would be to re-launch the game, maybe call it L2 resurrection? I log in to the forum's today and how weird to find that's what happening L2 classic, anyway appertaining to the op! and answers. Yes I can also see problems of all sorts with this idea but who cares when were getting our fantastic beloved old school L2 back, YIPPEEEE 😊
Ah, an L2 with no bots....no cheaters....no adena rmt.... Ya know, none of that is ever intended with any game. Where there's rules, there's breakers. They'll find their way in.
On the other hand, a fresh start with everyone beginning over sounds great. So many ppl are so far ahead, new players have no chance to catch up.
I won't be going though. I did my share of paying for L2 in the years past, and am now far too casual to really do much with a paid game that requires a certain degree of "grind".
I checking out L2 music and vids the other day and was thinking to myself what a great idea it would be to re-launch the game, maybe call it L2 resurrection? I log in to the forum's today and how weird to find that's what happening L2 classic, anyway appertaining to the op! and answers. Yes I can also see problems of all sorts with this idea but who cares when were getting our fantastic beloved old school L2 back, YIPPEEEE 😊
Classic L2 is not what players think it is. If you think you will be going back to the good old Lineage 2 then you are going to be disappointed. L2 Classic nothing but a slightly altered Infinite Odyssey game client with modified Chronical 1 server scripts with drop rates set at the current 1/6th of normal.
Classic L2 is not what players think it is. If you think you will be going back to the good old Lineage 2 then you are going to be disappointed. L2 Classic nothing but a slightly altered Infinite Odyssey game client with modified Chronical 1 server scripts with drop rates set at the current 1/6th of normal.
That could be a good thing, for example herb pots from lv1 + mobs, free TP and all contributions C1 didn't have, I expect xp to be a grind or otherwise it wouldn't work, no point having an environment if you don't use.
There are no Herb drops and no free teleports in Lineage 2 Classic. It's the worst of both worlds :p
Will the old starting villages be up and running, ie talking island village for humans? Where can we get info that tell us everything we want to know, or is it moss and match info you picked up all over the place. Ty
A few points here! It was herb pots what partly spoiled it for buffer/healer classes and intern that spoiled partying up together, bot where an annoyance but when in a party all you need to do was kill them and move into the area you have taken off them. Once you have 1 toon geared it helps massively to borrow it to you alt, then it's a blast to catch up to the next grade. You know the inevitable bots? Well it's not all that bad, they help balance the economy by setting the price list for mats which if left upto you normal playing peep would be asking extortionate prices, and they would!!! And most other player may never even get close to collecting 4000 bones 1200 varnish etc etc etc a stable economy is needed. Ironic that's thanks to farmers/bots
And most other player may never even get close to collecting 4000 bones 1200 varnish etc etc etc a stable economy is needed. Ironic that's thanks to farmers/bots
Farmers are still bad for the server. If there were no farmers, there would be less great gear and players would be more equalized, running around in lux shop mediocre gear. All farming does is give RMT'ers an advantage (and force people to RMT in order to compete with other RMT'ers).
Look at your Facebook! it is full of people wanting you to bring back the original Lineage 2! anything Pre-Awakening to NA/EU THATS ALL WE ASK! CREATE 2 SERVERS 1 NA and 1 EU COME ON!!! NOW IS THE TIME.
Its obvious everyone wants a Classic Lineage 2 server... What is Ncsoft thinking? Stop production of the next expansion, and bring us CLASSIC LINEAGE!!!!
Guys! Show your support for L2 Classic! We are making waves, but not an uproar!!! show your support for a classic server!
Bring Lineage 2 Classic already! There is massive support for a Classic Na server, this is so dumb you wont release one. for those who want a classic server show your support!
They are not allowing NA or SA to connect to the Euro server... they need to bring out a NA/SA Server... its utter crap they have not made the servers yet... I dont think they realize how many people would come back to lineage ...
They are not allowing NA or SA to connect to the Euro server... they need to bring out a NA/SA Server... its utter crap they have not made the servers yet... I dont think they realize how many people would come back to lineage ...
i agree but you'll can connect to euro classic anyway. What's the problem? ping?
L2 Classic turned to be huge fail in Korea and since NCwest is managed by NCK, the chance of L2 classic in the west are minor if not non-existent.
Suck it up and move on.
L2 Classic turned to be huge fail in Korea and since NCwest is managed by NCK, the chance of L2 classic in the west are minor if not non-existent.
Suck it up and move on.
^ that :)
Clearly people forget how hard the game was back then. No gear, no free buffs, no adena and slow leveling. Really not worth it at all.
Classic server will never be the same with Nstore around.
They will make the drop rate so low, so that people will have no choice but spend their money on Ncoins...Do you still want this?
Classic server will never be the same with Nstore around.
They will make the drop rate so low, so that people will have no choice but spend their money on Ncoins...Do you still want this?
I don't think the store was on the classic servers, it was subscription based, meaning you paid a monthly fee to play over the cash shop. This was what they thought would make money,but once the novelty wore off, people quit.
I personally think that what mostly turned people off was the drop rate. When Russia tripled the drop rate some time ago so that now they are not playing at 1/6, like Korea, but at 1/2 rates compared to the original Chronicles, there were some people who returned. Now player numbers seem to be fairly stable. The problem is, the monthly subscriptions of about 8 Euro still don't pay for the servers. Therefore the company has increased the pay-to-win L2Store events for the regular servers to cross-finance the Classic servers: http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=407&p=32025#p32025
Last Wednesday Juji mentioned "more L2 projects" that are in the pipeline: http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=285542&page=2#35
I suspect that one of those projects is Lineage 2 Classic @ NCWest, and that right at this moment he and his colleagues are agonizing over the question of whether they should put an L2Store in the Classic version (subscriptions are plainly not enough), or whether they should run even more pay-to-win events for us (even though I don't see how more money than now could be milked without turning off a large part of the paying players). It's a choice without choice yet you must choose :D
if 8 euro for 2.5k perma online cant support servers they must be using some human unseen like servers then. Reading elmar is like reading some fictional horror stories
When you click on "Credits" in the lower right corner of the log-in screen, you will see how much staff is required to operate those servers. And that's without the lower GMs and Support staff. Each one of the must be paid, plus health care and social security. That company is not a private server operation ;)
not like they use diferent client, security or diferent staff for l2classic that they use for l2garbage rofl l2c was just a bonus for them and the way l2 going l2c might be their main project in future
by your logic they launching eu classic because it doesnt pay for server itself
Europe decided to launch a Classic server after they cranked up the pay-to-win events in their regular L2Store so that they could cross-finance the website design etc. ;)
Of course they are hoping that when they sum up the revenue from both Infinite Odyssey and Classic they will have more money than with the regular servers alone (in the quarterly earnings reports Classic and regular L2 are listed together). But to say it clearly again, if NCWest decides to go the Russian way, with no Classic L2Store, it will be the regular players who pay for it, like we paid during High Five for the development of WildStar, which was perceived as the great savior of NCsoft at the time (talk about delusion :D ).
By the way, Classic @ NCTaiwan is still on hold after they cancelled the launch one day before the announced date: http://lineage2.plaync.com.tw/classic/news/list.asp
Nobody who is familiar with the catastrophic failure of Lineage 2 Classic in Korea and Russia really wants that game.
L2Classic is only doing well in Korea (Talking Island server in particular. The other servers are from half-dead to dead). But it is slowly declining in Russia and EU Classic will probably follow the same route.
I can already see the 2 RU Classic servers left merged within one year or so.
L2Classic is only doing well in Korea (Talking Island server in particular. The other servers are from half-dead to dead). But it is slowly declining in Russia and EU Classic will probably follow the same route.
I can already see the 2 RU Classic servers left merged within one year or so.
That being said, RU is doing pretty fine and by looking at these comparisons, not only that it didn't lose players in last 6 months, but actually gain some.
The fluctuations in online numbers are not big enough to be able to say that this really brought players back, but it did definitely stem the exodus. The drop rate is the make-or-break factor for Lineage 2 Classic. If NCWest adopts the Korean rates (after all they are a fully owned subsidiary of NCKorea), Lineage 2 Classic will fail. If they adopt the Russian rates they might be able to keep up one server. Going for more servers is delusional; with no Newbie Buffs and no Herbs dropping, everybody will huddle on one server to be able to get a party. All others will be empty. It was so in Korea and it was again so in Russia. One server to find them all is a feature built into the system :D
I know they increased the drop rates and made the soulshot spam doable again in pve and it helped to halt the exodus from RU classic. But I still bet on a slow decline resulting in the merge between GK and Sillen servers in a matter of 1 year or so.
I know they increased the drop rates and made the soulshot spam doable again in pve and it helped to halt the exodus from RU classic. But I still bet on a slow decline resulting in the merge between GK and Sillen servers in a matter of 1 year or so.
That remains to be seen :)
I myself have the impression that after the nostalgia enthusiasts with the rose tinted glasses have been weeded out, the player population has now stabilized and consists mainly of people who accept Linege 2 Classic as what it is - a completely different game that has about as much to do with the early Chronicles as Lineage Eternal.
As I have mentioned before, Lineage 2 Classic has many features that never existed in the past. Here for example the Sky Crack instances at the top of the Tower of Insolence, so-to-speak the Classic version of the Mystic Tavern (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=284469#1) we will get on Wednesday:
After 1.5 Age of Splendor update the game became really casual, everyone lvling with shots, much easier to aquire item sets, weapons. Grain Kain server population is over 4k in prime time, recently opened EU-classic has nearly 5k in the evening. GK which was opened 1 year ago is still fun to play. Where are those people who says L2 classic is a fail-game ?
This needs to happen in North America. I know at least 10 people off the top of my head that would pay a subscription to play Lineage 2 Classic. The server would bring money in easy and give players what they want = everyone is happy.