Get Rid of Iss Class & Box play I.E. 1 IP address = 1 client

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Get rid of Iss class and their buffs but give ALL CLASSES those buffs as PASSIVE SKILLS. That's right. This way, all classes will have no need for buffs no more. Simplify the game with just tank + DD + Healer should be fine; and allow 1 client per 1 IP address.

Here is what this will achieve.

1. Soloing will be hassle free and so much better. Players will be more focused on the game and just enjoy the game without worrying about the mechanics of box play.

2. This will enhance the quality of party plays. There will no longer be people boxing 2-3 toons at a party, which can be very annoying sometimes.

3. This will greatly reduce botting.

P.S. I haven't logged in since my 5 x DC on Wednesday, slept 10 hrs instead of 6 hrs to play L2. I feel good!
But ISS' are created not only for buffs but also for debuffs and giving ISS' debuffs to other classes will mess up the game more.

Also, 1 IP address doesn't necessarily means it belongs to only 1 person.
1) this is not a solo play game, different toons want different buff, dagger doesn't always want warrior.

2) if your party has someone boxing 2-3 toons you aren't playing with the right people..once in a while i'll bring my iss to fill the last balok slot and an extra br cant hurt.

3) what bots? the rmt botts, nope, the pvp script bots, nope. game doesn't need more dumbing down.
god os destruction was build on the 500000x private server base where u have all the buffs ll the time,

ncwest discovery that all the brainless ppl like this way.

i m sorry but i think that wont change.

the "1 cliente for 1 pc" can be done, core does.
god os destruction was build on the 500000x private server base where u have all the buffs ll the time,

ncwest discovery that all the brainless ppl like this way.

i m sorry but i think that wont change.

the "1 cliente for 1 pc" can be done, core does.

lot's of things can be done but as a rule of thumb we tend to get what Korea has and that's what I linked to ;)
As someone who has payed a very large sum of Ncoin across multiple accounts, and made hardware purchases to run said accounts, I vote absolutely no. The less changes that Ncsoft can make right now the better, some stability would be a good thing right now.

To be honest, I make very little adena from my boxes. I did the math, and it would take me 20.8 years to recoup my investment. I don't rmt, so I have to do something to make adena as a solo player/adult with rl responsibilities.

It is not in ncsoft's financial interest at this point, with low sub #'s, to cut away the income they make from people like me with multiple boxes that invest across the board.
Get rid of Iss class and their buffs but give ALL CLASSES those buffs as PASSIVE SKILLS. That's right. This way, all classes will have no need for buffs no more. Simplify the game with just tank + DD + Healer should be fine; and allow 1 client per 1 IP address.

Here is what this will achieve.

1. Soloing will be hassle free and so much better. Players will be more focused on the game and just enjoy the game without worrying about the mechanics of box play.

2. This will enhance the quality of party plays. There will no longer be people boxing 2-3 toons at a party, which can be very annoying sometimes.

3. This will greatly reduce botting.

P.S. I haven't logged in since my 5 x DC on Wednesday, slept 10 hrs instead of 6 hrs to play L2. I feel good!

what about publics ips. ?
what about friends/family using same ip in diferents pc s?
Get rid of Iss class and their buffs but give ALL CLASSES those buffs as PASSIVE SKILLS. That's right. This way, all classes will have no need for buffs no more. Simplify the game with just tank + DD + Healer should be fine; and allow 1 client per 1 IP address.

Here is what this will achieve.

1. Soloing will be hassle free and so much better. Players will be more focused on the game and just enjoy the game without worrying about the mechanics of box play.

2. This will enhance the quality of party plays. There will no longer be people boxing 2-3 toons at a party, which can be very annoying sometimes.

3. This will greatly reduce botting.

P.S. I haven't logged in since my 5 x DC on Wednesday, slept 10 hrs instead of 6 hrs to play L2. I feel good!
How many alts do you have 99+ now D.Seeker?
i'm asking because i also play Solo like you do
and I have 14 avatars 99+ that all need to complete quest lines
Gainak/ Dim-Warp / Exalted (got 8k done on all of em) lol ya :o fun
etc etc
i also have 21 noble 90-95 running threw group kartia's allday
are you in the same boat? all these alts are geared well
btw get rid of the iss class wont simplify anything, the iss class is the simple thing.

1) this is not a solo play game, different toons want different buff, dagger doesn't always want warrior.

2) if your party has someone boxing 2-3 toons you aren't playing with the right people..once in a while i'll bring my iss to fill the last balok slot and an extra br cant hurt.

3) what bots? the rmt botts, nope, the pvp script bots, nope. game doesn't need more dumbing down.

You couldnt be more wrong.

everyone playing with more than 1 toon on a different account is playing the game in the wrong way. thats why private players love the game the way it is now. they can do whatever they want without the need of a brain or knowledge of the game.

check freya and u see the true state of the game.

lot's of things can be done but as a rule of thumb we tend to get what Korea has and that's what I linked to ;)

wheres the p2p korea has?
i can make roughly 8-10 billion adena a month playing about 6 hours a day with my multiple accounts
its taken a while to equip them all, but its worth it. (and nobody gets scammed) a few angry warriors in the olympiad hate my lvl 90-99 +8 twilight gladitors, but thats it
pve or pvp Rmt or Ncoin
are the only ways to play this game
there is no "right" way to play lol

my idea of perfection ... is finding ideal ways of maximizing my profits every month... legitlly
right now i'm a recipe,elcyum,enchant scroll factory
thanks to all that put up cheap equipment mats on the AH :)
It's always funny when people who have no idea how the internet works recommends this dumb idea. I've lost count the number of times this has been suggested over the life of Lineage 2. I used to think that the people suggesting this change were doing so in an attempt to kill the game and not out of ignorance. I'm starting to believe it's just ignorance without malicious intent.

Some internet providers utilize firewalls that make it seem that all their users are using the same IP.

Apartment complexes, dorms, condos, and such that offer internet access generally do so under the same IP.

You could no longer play with your wife/husband/gf/sister/brother/etc.

There are millions of reasons why multiple people would be using what appears to be the same IP from the L2s server's perspective.


All this effort to inconvenience your player base for what reason? It won't stop bots as they can easily bypass such a system. I could easily bypass such a system while boxing. Then again I just might say screw it and quit further exasperating the loss of players.

This suggestion has always been an awful idea and I don't know of a single company that has successfully implemented such a suggestion.

the "1 cliente for 1 pc" can be done, core does.I don't know what this core is you mention but I can assure you I'd be able to get around a limit of 1 client per 1 pc. Bots wouldn't even care.

Eve does a limit of one client per one PC if you're logging into trial accounts and that's not particularly hard to get around.


everyone playing with more than 1 toon on a different account is playing the game in the wrong way. thats why private players love the game the way it is now. they can do whatever they want without the need of a brain or knowledge of the game.
Ah yes the old "YOU"RE PLAYING THE GAME WRONG BECAUSE YOU"RE NOT PLAYING IT THE WAY I WANT YOU TO PLAY IT!!!!" argument. Look man this game has a LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG storied history with boxing as doing so was a requirement to get to any serious level for a long time. I started dual boxing early because without an SE my SPS would spend far more time sitting than leveling. Ncsoft designed the game this way and encouraged it for years. You're not going to make that disapear without killing the game population even more.

So while we're doing this I'm going to suggest that the freeloaders who came after free to play have no say in any aspect of the game. AFterall I paid for all my accounts for years so I clearly am more important than some random fellow who joined well after the game went free to play!!!!! /sarcasm but I did really pay
poo

in before u open the sewer that u call mouth again, let me put my d*ck in ur a***ole.

ip = internet protocol, in other to get what u want from internet u need IP+MAC or IP+HWID so stop with the smalltallk ur little piece of sh*t.

You dont even have the knowledge that there are NAT SERVERS on earth. u dont know that these machines exist. AND DONT GET ME START ON I.T STUFF HERE, COS WE CAN SEE CLEARLY THE ONLY THING U KNOW ABOUT IT, IS JUST TO TURN STUFF ON AND OFF.

and for last but not least, when they kickstart lineage 2 the minimum requirements were pentium 3 or amd athlon, 256mb ram, 3d video card with 32mb. https://books.google.com.br/books?id=hLVJd05sKS4C&pg=PA42&lpg=PA42&dq=lineage+2+minimum+requirements+2003&source=bl&ots=wcxxaPMhwS&sig=Mh8q_WTN2x4rO6ZhifrxBCh6Ct8&hl=pt-BR&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiel8zhw7PQAhWFyyYKHbMoAisQ6AEIUDAH#v=on epage&q=lineage%202&f=false

said that, even if ppl press alt+enter and tried to open another client it wont work. it was not design for it. JUST 1 FOCK*NG CLIENT.

scrubs like u are the reason for the decline of the game and the rise of pirate servers aka free to play these days.

u cant play ur class the right way so u need to open another cliente to help u, cos weak ppl always need help, weak ppl cant do it right, weak ppl aways want the easy way.

F U
in before u open the sewer that u call mouth again, let me put my d*ck in ur a***ole.

ip = internet protocol, in other to get what u want from internet u need IP+MAC or IP+HWID so stop with the smalltallk ur little piece of sh*t.

You dont even have the knowledge that there are NAT SERVERS on earth. u dont know that these machines exist. AND DONT GET ME START ON I.T STUFF HERE, COS WE CAN SEE CLEARLY THE ONLY THING U KNOW ABOUT IT, IS JUST TO TURN STUFF ON AND OFF.

and for last but not least, when they kickstart lineage 2 the minimum requirements were pentium 3 or amd athlon, 256mb ram, 3d video card with 32mb. https://books.google.com.br/books?id=hLVJd05sKS4C&pg=PA42&lpg=PA42&dq=lineage+2+minimum+requirements+2003&source=bl&ots=wcxxaPMhwS&sig=Mh8q_WTN2x4rO6ZhifrxBCh6Ct8&hl=pt-BR&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiel8zhw7PQAhWFyyYKHbMoAisQ6AEIUDAH#v=on epage&q=lineage%202&f=false

said that, even if ppl press alt+enter and tried to open another client it wont work. it was not design for it. JUST 1 FOCK*NG CLIENT.

scrubs like u are the reason for the decline of the game and the rise of pirate servers aka free to play these days.

u cant play ur class the right way so u need to open another cliente to help u, cos weak ppl always need help, weak ppl cant do it right, weak ppl aways want the easy way.

F U
Hosts behind NAT-enabled routers do not have end-to-end connectivity and cannot participate in some Internet protocols. Services that require the initiation of TCP connections from the outside network, or stateless protocols such as those using UDP, can be disrupted. Unless the NAT router makes a specific effort to support such protocols, incoming packets cannot reach their destination. Some protocols can accommodate one instance of NAT between participating hosts ("passive mode" FTP, for example), sometimes with the assistance of an application-level gateway, but fail when both systems are separated from the Internet by NAT. Use of NAT also complicates tunneling protocols such as IPsec because NAT modifies values in the headers which interfere with the integrity checks done by IPsec and other tunneling protocols.These hackers have been at it for 15 years
they're well beyond ip blocks

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get rid all classes.
Just only 1 class with ALL skills!:p
This is your worst suggestion you have ever made by far. This is how the game has been for a long time and to change it would be the death of L2... This suggestion is worse than the removing click to move suggestions. Limiting people's ability to box/shop would totally kill this game.
It's always funny when people who have no idea how the internet works recommends this dumb idea. I've lost count the number of times this has been suggested over the life of Lineage 2....
I like what this guy says!
I started to play here after L2 went free to play, but I swear I'm doing my best to catch up your money loss! :D



ip = internet protocol, in other to get what u want from internet u need IP+MAC or IP+HWID so stop with the smalltallk ur little piece of sh*t.

You dont even have the knowledge that there are NAT SERVERS on earth. u dont know that these machines exist. AND DONT GET ME START ON I.T STUFF HERE, COS WE CAN SEE CLEARLY THE ONLY THING U KNOW ABOUT IT, IS JUST TO TURN STUFF ON AND OFF.

and for last but not least, when they kickstart lineage 2 the minimum requirements were pentium 3 or amd athlon, 256mb ram, 3d video card with 32mb. https://books.google.com.br/books?id=hLVJd05sKS4C&pg=PA42&lpg=PA42&dq=lineage+2+minimum+requirements+2003&source=bl&ots=wcxxaPMhwS&sig=Mh8q_WTN2x4rO6ZhifrxBCh6Ct8&hl=pt-BR&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiel8zhw7PQAhWFyyYKHbMoAisQ6AEIUDAH#v=on epage&q=lineage%202&f=false

said that, even if ppl press alt+enter and tried to open another client it wont work. it was not design for it. JUST 1 FOCK*NG CLIENT.

scrubs like u are the reason for the decline of the game and the rise of pirate servers aka free to play these days.

u cant play ur class the right way so u need to open another cliente to help u, cos weak ppl always need help, weak ppl cant do it right, weak ppl aways want the easy way.

F U
This whole post is hilarious. I can see clearly the only thing you can do is turn things on and off. Also, you need a D inserted from both front and back, then reverse, to teach you manners and to stop feeling special. :mad:
BTW, It's really funny how you wrote "NAT SERVERS" in caps. Thanks for the good laugh. Would you like a hairpin?
nonono if u removes iss no1 gets their skills and then u all can try play the game ahhaha GL grindin buffless;)
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are you one of the hundreds of banned Losers? (if so you were used)
you do realize that these adena spammers have been around for twenty years
L2 is just one of many, of their services.
they have resources all around the world.
and guess what.... they've been boxing
can you take em out ? all by yourself?
in before u open the sewer that u call mouth again, let me put my d*ck in ur a***ole.

ip = internet protocol, in other to get what u want from internet u need IP+MAC or IP+HWID so stop with the smalltallk ur little piece of sh*t.

You dont even have the knowledge that there are NAT SERVERS on earth. u dont know that these machines exist. AND DONT GET ME START ON I.T STUFF HERE, COS WE CAN SEE CLEARLY THE ONLY THING U KNOW ABOUT IT, IS JUST TO TURN STUFF ON AND OFF.

and for last but not least, when they kickstart lineage 2 the minimum requirements were pentium 3 or amd athlon, 256mb ram, 3d video card with 32mb. https://books.google.com.br/books?id=hLVJd05sKS4C&pg=PA42&lpg=PA42&dq=lineage+2+minimum+requirements+2003&source=bl&ots=wcxxaPMhwS&sig=Mh8q_WTN2x4rO6ZhifrxBCh6Ct8&hl=pt-BR&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiel8zhw7PQAhWFyyYKHbMoAisQ6AEIUDAH#v=on epage&q=lineage%202&f=false

said that, even if ppl press alt+enter and tried to open another client it wont work. it was not design for it. JUST 1 FOCK*NG CLIENT.

scrubs like u are the reason for the decline of the game and the rise of pirate servers aka free to play these days.

u cant play ur class the right way so u need to open another cliente to help u, cos weak ppl always need help, weak ppl cant do it right, weak ppl aways want the easy way.

F UAh insults the last refuge of those without a leg to stand on.

Are you seriously trying to claim that it was impossible to box lineage 2 when it was launched?
WoW. Just WoW.

Might as well keep the copy and paste train going. Why stop now?
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