I am a new player ,playing on Zaken server. i dont like handouts&gifts, so i decided to do my lvling ,through Boss Raiding. the problem is on the topic title.. nothing but dead raid bosses.. . i managed to make it to lvl 53 with some problems to find raid bosses to kill ,but still having fun since it made me travel a lot. but right now at lvl 53, **** hit the fan at the speed of sound , and i am trying really hard not to just start insulting everyone...
so here is the deal.. from lvl 47 to lvl 59 every single raid boss is dead. thats a total of 27 raid bosses. i know because i visited all of them. i have been going around the game world for hours ,in search of a single raid boss to fight against ,and nada. now as i said i am new to the server ,but i know the respawn is only 12 hours at best ,which means all these deads can not be explained ,if the game was being played "normaly".
i highly suspect that there are primitive low IQ "people" monitoring and timing these raids ,to keep on killing them. i saw a few high lvl players on my travels, who were looking for the raids with high speed mounts.
so my question is... WHAT THE ****!! is going on here!?
Most likely players who are looking to level up a quick box are taking out the raid bosses. Especially since they either cannot do the "Path to Awakening" or they have R99 they can pass, and get 85 in a couple hours.
I'd suggest you stick to the "Path to Awakening" set of quests, there's only one small bot train running on Zaken atm.
Here is nothing to say. Yes they are killed straight after spawn. For one simple reason. Any kind of drops.
Open field raids is made to fight for them. If you want to kill it, you have to wait it and do your best to not give it to others who want kill it as well. Its called competition. ))
Here is nothing to say. Yes they are killed straight after spawn. For one simple reason. Any kind of drops.
Open field raids is made to fight for them. If you want to kill it, you have to wait it and do your best to not give it to others who want kill it as well. Its called competition. ))
Go **** yourself. your probably involved in it, considering your response.
competition my *** ,you ******* hypocrite!. 27 raids dead, is more than enough proof of a monopoly of unecessity. in other words.. ******* EVIL. and the only way to deal with evil, is to brutalize it. thats the ony language that primitive low IQ humanoids, understand.
No need to use such language. What Fuggle and Jacky said is simply true.
The Asian approach to the problem is GM-led raids: http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=291593#7
But this requires first of all GMs, something we have a severe shortage of at NCWest, and it is also not unproblematic. GM Bard, the inventor of the Bard's Wind buff for newbies, had to leave the company after the members of a somewhat shady clan had, thanks to good organization, instantly signed up for an Antharas raid, filling up almost the complete Command Channel and thus triggering the Crisis on Tersi with a so-far unprecedented outbreak of aggression against NCKorea that in the end also led to Producer Namgung Gon being fired: http://m.inven.co.kr/webzine/wznews.php?site=lineage2&idx=93247
The best thing to do in your case is to simply ignore Raid Bosses. Just consider them as another manifestation of the Atelia Fortress - content that's just not for you :)
Go **** yourself. your probably involved in it, considering your response.
competition my *** ,you ******* hypocrite!. 27 raids dead, is more than enough proof of a monopoly of unecessity. in other words.. ******* EVIL. and the only way to deal with evil, is to brutalize it. thats the ony language that primitive low IQ humanoids, understand.
Wow :D
But anyway, that's how it works. Pretty much all bosses are camped and killed right away after spawn. It is even worse at higher lvl raids, 97+, stacked titan or evi logged at boss with skills up and when spawn, 30 sec and boss down.
No need to use such language. What Fuggle and Jacky said is simply true.
The Asian approach to the problem is GM-led raids: http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=291593#7
But this requires first of all GMs, something we have a severe shortage of at NCWest, and it is also not unproblematic. GM Bard, the inventor of the Bard's Wind buff for newbies, had to leave the company after the members of a somewhat shady clan had, thanks to good organization, instantly signed up for an Antharas raid, filling up almost the complete Command Channel and thus triggering the Crisis on Tersi with a so-far unprecedented outbreak of aggression against NCKorea that in the end also led to Producer Namgung Gon being fired: http://m.inven.co.kr/webzine/wznews.php?site=lineage2&idx=93247
The best thing to do in your case is to simply ignore Raid Bosses. Just consider them as another manifestation of the Atelia Fortress - content that's just not for you :)
"No need to use such language. What Fuggle and Jacky said is simply true. "
what i said is simply true as well.
wrong wrong wrong. raid bosses ARE for me ,and for everybody. i am not doing anything wrong, i am playing the game the way its meant to be played. therefore i am not the one to be punished. its not "adapt to scumbags, and so raids are not for you" its "sons of whores get permanente ban". thats how it goes.
i am 100% against GM led raids. thats a stupid idea. the way to solve this problem is to cut it by the roots. but for me to give na opinion i need more information...
why are they killing these raids?..for the drop?for exp for bots?
how are they killing these raids?..with an high lvl character, or with an appropriate for the raid lvl character?
i see a lot of weird named characters around. are the raids being monitored to lvl up bots?
it needs to be understood why this is being done. for what purpose.
I am a new player ,playing on Zaken server. i dont like handouts&gifts, so i decided to do my lvling ,through Boss Raiding. the problem is on the topic title.. nothing but dead raid bosses.. . i managed to make it to lvl 53 with some problems to find raid bosses to kill ,but still having fun since it made me travel a lot. but right now at lvl 53, **** hit the fan at the speed of sound , and i am trying really hard not to just start insulting everyone...
so here is the deal.. from lvl 47 to lvl 59 every single raid boss is dead. thats a total of 27 raid bosses. i know because i visited all of them. i have been going around the game world for hours ,in search of a single raid boss to fight against ,and nada. now as i said i am new to the server ,but i know the respawn is only 12 hours at best ,which means all these deads can not be explained ,if the game was being played "normaly".
i highly suspect that there are primitive low IQ "people" monitoring and timing these raids ,to keep on killing them. i saw a few high lvl players on my travels, who were looking for the raids with high speed mounts.
so my question is... WHAT THE ****!! is going on here!?
Heya there,
You are wasting time camping low lvl raids...its old school leveling :)
Like they said...rbs are camped and killed in max 1 min from spawn.They are killing RBs for subclasses and clan reputation.
However, NcSoft made a good decision and revamp quest under 85 for a faster lvling(Queen Navary and Keuptoreus quests)..you do those quest and you get a lot of exp and a special buff 100% exp(if i remember well) in adition you will get Paulina equipment-weap-jewels-set(quite strong equip ...mby best equip in game for under 85 ).
You can do 1-85,in lazy manner, in 2 days tops w/o spend a single $.
Ps: next update will show/display on generic map witch RB is on :)
"No need to use such language. What Fuggle and Jacky said is simply true. "
what i said is simply true as well.
wrong wrong wrong. raid bosses ARE for me ,and for everybody. i am not doing anything wrong, i am playing the game the way its meant to be played. therefore i am not the one to be punished. its not "adapt to scumbags, and so raids are not for you" its "sons of whores get permanente ban". thats how it goes.
i am 100% against GM led raids. thats a stupid idea. the way to solve this problem is to cut it by the roots. but for me to give na opinion i need more information...
why are they killing these raids?..for the drop?for exp for bots?
how are they killing these raids?..with an high lvl character, or with an appropriate for the raid lvl character?
i see a lot of weird named characters around. are the raids being monitored to lvl up bots?
it needs to be understood why this is being done. for what purpose.
first of all raid boses are not for you :) now laets say you find 5 raids you kill them and other person comes to lvl up but bam 5 rb dead so what he should do go to forum and cry ?, forr all old races you need to lvl 3 more subs to lvl 80 and you dont have quest to do so thats why ppl still hunt raids. second its imposible to kill rb with high lvl chars becouse 9 lvl penalty aplies to everyone so thy kill with low lvl chars also.and lastly ppl who kill rb knows their respawn time so he can kamp it when it respawns = eazy boss. so only way to kill rb for yourself is to make some cams to find boss spawn ann then fast kill it.
Go **** yourself. your probably involved in it, considering your response.
competition my *** ,you ******* hypocrite!. 27 raids dead, is more than enough proof of a monopoly of unecessity. in other words.. ******* EVIL. and the only way to deal with evil, is to brutalize it. thats the ony language that primitive low IQ humanoids, understand.
first of all raid boses are not for you :) now laets say you find 5 raids you kill them and other person comes to lvl up but bam 5 rb dead so what he should do go to forum and cry ?, forr all old races you need to lvl 3 more subs to lvl 80 and you dont have quest to do so thats why ppl still hunt raids. second its imposible to kill rb with high lvl chars becouse 9 lvl penalty aplies to everyone so thy kill with low lvl chars also.and lastly ppl who kill rb knows their respawn time so he can kamp it when it respawns = eazy boss. so only way to kill rb for yourself is to make some cams to find boss spawn ann then fast kill it.
Life is not for you primate. thats all ********, everything you said. and the incredible thing is you yourself expose your own ********.
you yourself said that a single player has at best 3 "characters" (with subclasses) to lvl up. in which case such player would never need to monitor any low lvl Raid Boss. you kill one raid boss and you lvl up at the very least once. so this player moves ahead ,and dosnt need to kill the same Raid again. now he is higher lvl so he will move up the raid boss food chain. he dosnt need to camp ****. especialy on a server with only a little over 700 people.
people playing this game normaly, dont need to monitor low lvl raid bosses. the people monitoring these raid bosses, are people who keep making new characters ,for some reason. or they have a way of stoping exp gain, but i heard that Sin Eater is gone, so it must be new characters.
no one would go through the trouble of making characters just to monitor low lvl raids, if they only had 1 character. 27 raid bosses do not get killed by people normaly lvling their subclasses. your FULL OF ****... your probably involved in it.
your the one who needs to **** primitive humanoid. this is not your personal house. this game as enough scumbags as it is. and where this game is headed from what i have seen ,is that the only thing left in this game ,will be the low IQ primates and their bots.
I'M A BIG BABYWhere did this guy come from? It's like the top poster from L2 blah woke up after falling into a coma in 2006 and found the official forums.
So what would you like to do, Say hi, other thosends of players i want to make an appointment with a raid boss so i can have it because im new and i visited them all. therefor im better than everyone else? god what a pleb
Do you know how ridiculouse you are this is the internet. And you are either a really bad troll because what you do say is neither intresting or amusing, or you really are one of those seriousely annoying people that end up being randomly shot in life by what was a lovely relative that got fed up with your obnioxiuse self important ideals on life.
Thank you for playing lineage 2 you may now log off and not come back
There is the hyena pack. all scumbags abusing the low lvl raid bosses(etc..) for no good reason(just greed). always looking for a way to exploit **** in games, regardless of the consequences. cant play the game normaly no.. not enough IQ for that.. gota create monopolies and bots and hacks and so on so on, to make up for the IQ gap.. . and if someone strikes at the scheme, they form hyena packs and try shaming tactics on the striker. dosnt work on me i am afraid..i am not ashamed . i will keep striking at you primates.
scumbags like you hyenas always have their excuses ,to be/continue to be scumbags. its always someone elses fault ,even when games fall because of them. its others fault to.. when they strike at you because they choose retribution, instead just adapting to your primitve schemes(this is sarcasm ok?). you primitive low IQ humanoids ,will die blaming someone else for the primitive **** you do.
your the one who needs to **** primitive humanoid. this is not your personal house. this game as enough scumbags as it is. and where this game is headed from what i have seen ,is that the only thing left in this game ,will be the low IQ primates and their bots.
Wow You didn't realize? That you are a real scumbag here? Just because you couldn't find raid boss doesn't neccessary mean someone is cheating you, a lot of new people could form a pt and kill raid boss from lv 30 all the way up to 70, They can kill whatever they found on the field.
There are people who do the same as you going around searching for raid boss.
So please stop being a scumbag yourself and accept the truth.
Go **** yourself. your probably involved in it, considering your response.
competition my *** ,you ******* hypocrite!. 27 raids dead, is more than enough proof of a monopoly of unecessity. in other words.. ******* EVIL. and the only way to deal with evil, is to brutalize it. thats the ony language that primitive low IQ humanoids, understand.
HAHAHAHAHAHA Is this guy for real????????????:eek:
He is jumping up and down beside his chair right now, With little to no iq with his primate family. because lets be honest he is the one behaving like an animal here lol
There is the hyena pack. all scumbags abusing the low lvl raid bosses(etc..) for no good reason(just greed). always looking for a way to exploit **** in games, regardless of the consequences. cant play the game normaly no.. not enough IQ for that.. gota create monopolies and bots and hacks and so on so on, to make up for the IQ gap.. . and if someone strikes at the scheme, they form hyena packs and try shaming tactics on the striker. dosnt work on me i am afraid..i am not ashamed . i will keep striking at you primates.
First, and I am not one to pick, BUT considering you think we all have low "iq" you spelt normally wrong, Second you don't capitalize the beginning of each sentence. You are the child behaving like a primate, You have 0 wit, Everytime you post I take great joy at laughing at your stupidness. Go play self fornication like a primate monkey you horrible little bottom feeder :)
Dude, this game has been around for 14 years. People have this *** down to a science. If you want to kill open field raid bosses you have to learn the spawn time. Camp it, see when its killed. You now know the time. Return 12h later with your party and fight for it.
I always had the same questions as you yami. I am totally with you on this even if i dont need low raids atm when i made my character on chronos 5 months ago had the same problem.I think they being monitored by bot users so they can maximize the amount of adena to sell. Even the smallest income by doing it everyday on every raid its something in the end i guess.
Look all this bad community how answer you... I have to say that we probably have the worst community in any online game.
This game has almost 0 new players so stop the LIE about exping subs becouse 99% of population is at least 99/99/80/80 so **** already
I always had the same questions as you yami. I am totally with you on this even if i dont need low raids atm when i made my character on chronos 5 months ago had the same problem.I think they being monitored by bot users so they can maximize the amount of adena to sell. Even the smallest income by doing it everyday on every raid its something in the end i guess.
Look all this bad community how answer you... I have to say that we probably have the worst community in any online game.
This game has almost 0 new players so stop the LIE about exping subs becouse 99% of population is at least 99/99/80/80 so **** already
Happy to find a human being. thank you for your courage. Strenght to you and your family.
I always had the same questions as you yami. I am totally with you on this even if i dont need low raids atm when i made my character on chronos 5 months ago had the same problem.I think they being monitored by bot users so they can maximize the amount of adena to sell. Even the smallest income by doing it everyday on every raid its something in the end i guess.
Look all this bad community how answer you... I have to say that we probably have the worst community in any online game.
This game has almost 0 new players so stop the LIE about exping subs becouse 99% of population is at least 99/99/80/80 so **** already
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Default Re: Dead Raid Bosses
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Originally Posted by Jacky View Post
Here is nothing to say. Yes they are killed straight after spawn. For one simple reason. Any kind of drops.
Open field raids is made to fight for them. If you want to kill it, you have to wait it and do your best to not give it to others who want kill it as well. Its called competition. ))
Go **** yourself. your probably involved in it, considering your response.
competition my *** ,you ******* hypocrite!. 27 raids dead, is more than enough proof of a monopoly of unecessity. in other words.. ******* EVIL. and the only way to deal with evil, is to brutalize it. thats the ony language that primitive low IQ humanoids, understand.
this was his response to absolutely peaceful reply about topic.
Ehem... Excuse me but i honestly don't see his intelligence. He is very aggressive towards whatever is not working for his benefits.
Did i write him even once, or replied in this aggressive manner, as he did ?. No i did not, even after he insulted and called me a bot just for reasonable explanation to situation.
The problem has been solved. With the "Salvation" update (over here around Christmas) the Clan Academies are abolished, it will no longer be possible to obtain Clan Reputation Points by leveling up throwaway Academics: http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=1975#p35413
So one of the main reasons to steal Raid Bosses has been removed :)
The problem has been solved. With the "Salvation" update (over here around Christmas) the Clan Academies are abolished, it will no longer be possible to obtain Clan Reputation Points by leveling up throwaway Academics: http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=1975#p35413
So one of the main reasons to steal Raid Bosses has been removed :)
Question: "Hi, why can't I find raids? They should be for all the people to enjoy"
Answer: "Other people kill them"
Response to answer: "**** other people"
Yes, raids are "abused" and if this is bot problem, GMs should look into it. If this is farm thing, then either spend more time ingame than others, either stop qq.
It is basic knowledge that Korean MMOs are won by grind (personal or bot, doesn't matter at this point). If you log in 5 minutes a day and expect to get everything you want without any kind of effort, stop delusioning yourself.
Game values hardwork and as such rewards it, I guess that is why raidbosses are currently set to respawn 24 hours after they are killed.
Problem here is, the players farming said raidbosses are the ones who heavily botted/scripted in the past, thus there is no issue for them to keep killing these bossies whilst for other players it is much harder since you have to compete with such players for the boss.
Easy solution, change respawn time from 24h to 16+(1 to 8h).
Its a very quick fix, and it will satisfy 90% of the community, I cant see why they already have not changed it.
I remember when these raids were killed by everyone, random party rooms and people running between spawns to find raids, could easily see ~20-30 man CC at 5 different raids at a time.
Instead, they let top farmers farm them, killing each server.
the next upcoming game update, Forcebringer, which is supposed to be really soon according to Neutron will have the open field raid boss spawn times and if they're up/down clearly mentioned on the ingame World map so yeah everyone can go camp them and may the best dps win the looting rights.
The problem has been solved. With the "Salvation" update (over here around Christmas) the Clan Academies are abolished, it will no longer be possible to obtain Clan Reputation Points by leveling up throwaway Academics: http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=1975#p35413
So one of the main reasons to steal Raid Bosses has been removed :)
the next upcoming game update, Forcebringer, which is supposed to be really soon according to Neutron will have the open field raid boss spawn times and if they're up/down clearly mentioned on the ingame World map so yeah everyone can go camp them and may the best dps win the looting rights.
I am against both these changes, especialy the academy abolishing. its one year from now ,so ofcorse its not gona affect me.. but do you people realize that, the game is being dismantled piece by piece?. this is all because of the primitive low IQ humanoids.
new players have lost their normal voice inside the game ,can only speak at lvl 75+. naturaly they have questions.. the cademy is one place where they can get answers. on top of that ,i am getting 120 milion for graduation. not to mention acedemy is fun. removing it will hurt the new players, a lot.
about the measure to make it so people can see the respawn of Raid Bosses , i think its gona hurt the newbies and favor the primates. they ofcorse have more DPS. and its unnatural to... it will make the game feel way to artificial. the only positive side i see out of it ,is that i belive it will create PVP..maybe even party vs party PVP.
if the reason these raids are being camped is clan reputation ,then the solution is either removing the positibility to gain clan rep from raid slaying ,or the community solving the problem. how? .. shun the clans doing that... insult them, shame them ,dont ally with them, dont show them respect etc etc.. . there is plenty the comunity could do to solve problems ,if the community had the will to opose evil.
naturaly they have questions.. the cademy is one place where they can get answers. on top of that ,i am getting 120 milion for graduation.
they ofcorse have more DPS. and its unnatural to... it will make the game feel way to artificial. the only positive side i see out of it ,is that i belive it will create PVP..maybe even party vs party PVP.
are u high???
2 bs and one right thing
this is exaclty what i said u had to do focking *etard. stop crying and killl the raids.
ps1: whats the poins of pk cam toon??????
ps2: why no bow????
ps3: skylancer is the easist boss to spot, since ppl dont want to run in this game.
ps4: put u hand in the air and thx koreass for the paulinas s*it gear noob.
ps5: F U!
there is plenty the community could do to solve problems ,if the community had the will to oppose evil.
Remember my hypocrite friend Evil never kill. You are not any good. You just wannabe one. fake in other words. Or more religious description. Snake.
Anything pure do not have those thoughts , anything what is pure do not see any evil side, neither they can think about evil actions like you did :) .
So snake, have fun feeling yourself very powerful. The dark side is already eating your soul. :D
Remember my hypocrite friend Evil never kill. You are not any good. You just wannabe one. fake in other words. Or more religious description. Snake.
Anything pure do not have those thoughts , anything what is pure do not see any evil side, neither they can think about evil actions like you did :) .
So snake, have fun feeling yourself very powerful. The dark side is already eating your soul. :D
What makes you think i deny being dark ?. my very name means darkness.
yes the pure cant see evil, because the pure are ignorant yet. but i can ,and i can also destroy it full of rage and protect that which is innocent, unlike me.
filthy primates such as yourself ..love the pure ones ,because you know you can take advantage of them ,and they will not strike back at you. they will not see evil, and so you will be free to abuse them.
all you show with those words ,is your filthy parasitic nature. i maybe dark ,but i am not evil... i only take what i need, and destroy what must be destroyed.
i dont feel insulted being called a snake. they say there is a snake in every Paradise ...maybe its there to protect it ,since the pure cant. also i view all lifeforms on Mother Earth as my brothers and sisters, therefore being called a snake is an honor. Thank You.
Btw, if you really care about this, people here are providing you with useful information in case you may plan to actually take action. So you should be grateful to most of them
Your "brutalize" strategy, which can only be interpreted as "chat pvp" or flaming anyone who beats you either because they have better gear/knowledge/preparation it's doomed to fail, mainly because a lot of people already do that anyway. Sometimes because their opponent is cheating in someway and sometimes because they are clearly outplayed and respond with poor sportmanship
There are so many newbies out there that you could simply wait for them to fail against the Boss alone and then do it yourself in a proper way
Instances 85+ are actually for everyone, because there is a Kartia, Istina, Octavis, etc. waiting for any party willing to try it. But the name of open field is competence and limited resources + the hardcore nature of the game will make people fight for anything they think it's worth it
Get stronger, get smarter and/or get better allies, or simply log off and go back to forum pvp