so if some1 drives Aston Martin you would say to him you dont know how to drive a fiat ?
Stop pretending the communists lol
You really need to work on the punctuation, especially when writing up direct dialogue.
There's nothing that can deny that the last thing we need is players leaving servers in favor of whatever else game mode NC comes up next "arena", "classic v2 (reroll from C1 back up)", "self-sufficient mode (no trade/no party/all items in common craft)", "start at level 110 with OE R99 gear mode", you get the picture.
You really need to work on the punctuation, especially when writing up direct dialogue.
There's nothing that can deny that the last thing we need is players leaving servers in favor of whatever else game mode NC comes up next "arena", "classic v2 (reroll from C1 back up)", "self-sufficient mode (no trade/no party/all items in common craft)", "start at level 110 with OE R99 gear mode", you get the picture.
if it goes to Classic you'll still be here writing the same things .
Nobody cares about classic. It failed miserably everywhere it had been put up, even the Russian one.
We surely don't need another Zaken, but even worse, without option to merge in the end.
Nobody cares about classic. It failed miserably everywhere it had been put up, even the Russian one.
We surely don't need another Zaken, but even worse, without option to merge in the end.
Nobody cares about classic. It failed miserably everywhere it had been put up, even the Russian one.
We surely don't need another Zaken, but even worse, without option to merge in the end.
Actually thats not 100% accurate.
EU version had insane amount of people in start - then the player base went below 1k and people were shouting for merges to RU classics. After that the player base has gone to solid 1500ish afaik and is doing well.
People just read old posts from times that the population was suffering. Real info is hard to find sometime I admit.
I can clearly see the dedicated support players joining the new classic server, fighting to roll a BD, SWS, WC, EE, SE, PP, OL to get full buff for their party. Sound like so much fun. :D
Nobody cares about classic. It failed miserably everywhere it had been put up, even the Russian one.
We surely don't need another Zaken, but even worse, without option to merge in the end.
Players are too weak and carebear for this game, you expect them to handle classic?
You're right and i'm not talking about the garbage players that play the current lineage 2 **** bag that it is. Honestly I don't want anyone that plays the current version to come to classic because like you said they are ****** carebears and p2w scrubs.
That doesn't mean people wouldn't play it, cause you know there are many different servers that are classic version and what not even EU innovas version is picking up every days new players joining it's probably up to 2000 daily active from the 900 it was a few months ago.
I played EU version and it's nice and fun, but RU ruined it for me and the different time zone. Most of the players were off which made farming nice.
If NCwest was smart they'd open it at 2.5 patch and make it $10 a month sub.
You're right and i'm not talking about the garbage players that play the current lineage 2 **** bag that it is. Honestly I don't want anyone that plays the current version to come to classic because like you said they are ****** carebears and p2w scrubs.
That doesn't mean people wouldn't play it, cause you know there are many different servers that are classic version and what not even EU innovas version is picking up every days new players joining it's probably up to 2000 daily active from the 900 it was a few months ago.
I played EU version and it's nice and fun, but RU ruined it for me and the different time zone. Most of the players were off which made farming nice.
If NCwest was smart they'd open it at 2.5 patch and make it $10 a month sub.
You can always just play in Japan. No ID confirmation and free classic.
I dont get it, you can play " classic" version in our curent version of game...here how you do it:
1.start play
2.lvl up by not doing new any boosted quests
3.bring your friends and make a "classic"clan
3.1. recruit more ppl in "classic mode"
4.hard grind till 85
5.dont do awaken
6.enjoy playing
If you want to be easy take a mentor and you have buffs for life.
and relax, like mixa said NcSoft wont open a semi-clasic server.
I would be shocked if classic happened. Not enough people play the game in its 'EZ' mode now, why on earth would NcSoft invest any resources into a classic server that would be even harder to maintain a population?
Perhaps its that the present game has become too money oriented (which seems odd as it was originally a pay to play game) and gotten away from the original purpose of the game. Lineage 2 was never an easy game, it was long, it was painful in some ways but thats what made it good. Games like WoW made it easier to level to end game comparatively, and thanks to the drive of new age gaming, its became sold less to the original demographic who brought lineage 2 to the fore front, those who would deal with the grind for delayed gratification; and it was sold more to those who were willing to place money into the game to get better items/gear/exp for more of an immediate satisfaction.
Suppose its a lot like phone/tablet games in North America that come and go now and days, people float from one satisfying game to the next til they lose interest there and go to the next.
Out of curiousity were the classic servers designed as progression on time based or achievement based like the everquest ones?
Nobody cares about classic. It failed miserably everywhere it had been put up, even the Russian one.
We surely don't need another Zaken, but even worse, without option to merge in the end.
Perhaps it should be a paid service then, like everquests new progression server is only for their paying customers. They could do the same thing for this.
Ya so i tried this game today, brand new character. It is no where near the game it was, its removed almost all the fun with its current brand of gameplay (not player wise). Been a slice id rather go EQ or Rift to go back to MMORPGs.
Ya so i tried this game today, brand new character. It is no where near the game it was, its removed almost all the fun with its current brand of gameplay (not player wise). Been a slice id rather go EQ or Rift to go back to MMORPGs.
Not sure what you're talking about. I currently play classic now, and it's much better than any GOD server
NEWS FLASH: If the top clans on Naia are coming to you to ask if there are any characters that they can play for lineage 2 classic sieges, you can tell its better.
Half of the Naia factor pvpers log into classic every two weeks just hoping there's a Support character they can drive. That's because classic sieges are intense again, there's competition, there's adrenaline flowing through you. You don't get that anymore in GOD
The key word here is "drive". People want to participate in sieges with pre-made high-level characters (which is by the way account sharing and a bannable offense), but they are not willing to level up those characters themselves, equipping them at 1/3 drop rates when compared to the original Chronicles. The question you should ask yourself is, why don't those top clans on Naia move permanently over to Classic if that game is so great?
I wouldn't say classic failed. If I remember correctly EU cut the xp and drop tables making the game even more of a grind than it was meant to be. On top of that a lot of the Russians were sharing accounts and grinding 24/7 nonstop, if you weren't doing that you were severely under leveled compared to the top parties within days of the server starting.
And I don't think it would really affect the current GoD player base, from what I remember from the EU launch a lot of the NA players were old school players that had quit at least a year prior to launch with no interest in playing GoD anymore. That was the case for essentially my entire clan. I'd play with the idea of playing L2 again if there was an NA classic.
It was in Korea where the rates were cut to 1/6 of the original Chronicles. Innova doubled those rates, arriving at 1/3, shortly after the overseas version went live. Innova is NICE :D
Talking about Innova, why don't you simply play on Skelth? It's in English, and the siege times are around noon US time. That should not be too much of a hardship. Here are recent online numbers for Skelth (the second picture): http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=1265&start=870#p36621
They are deeply grateful for each player who joins them :)
By the way, account sharing, i.e. several players leveling one character in shifts, is what destroyed Innova's subscription-based business model in Russia. Now they are going free-to-play/pay-to-win: http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=1265&start=870#p36578
As Gabe pointed out, account sharing is rampant on Skelth as well, so there a similar development should be expected.
DIL from Innova just posted a clarification on Rochand:
RU Classic remains P2P along with the introduction of 'light' L2Store (without P2W). Same 300 RUB subscription per month.
As for EU, there is no ETA for L2Store there. It completely depends on the technical possibilities to implement web shop on the EU 4game platform. http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=1265&start=870#p36634
permaban 1st offense bot 2nd offense RMT, or 1st IDC just no tolerance for it
dont add carebear crap and ruin stuff with death penalty or ruining nograde/dgrade market. don't play the game like a nolifer just level whenever you feel like logging in and playing old school STYLE
This video is from 2006 and has nothing to do with Lineage 2 Classic. Please permit me to quote myself:
As far as Lineage 2 Classic is concerned, the main problem with all those enthusiasts is that they believe that it would be the early Chronicles again. This is not the case. Lineage 2 Classic is a different game, with different features. Only certain landmarks have the same name, while being different in nature. Like there is a Tower of Insolence, but that has instances on the top, and as of May 24 also an instanced Baium: http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=2030#p36434
Everybody asking for L2Classic@NCWest should read through this thread, all 89 pages of it: http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=1265
There you can hear from people who actually played the game how initial enthusiasm turned into disappointment.
As Yidao said, Classic is effectively just cleverly cosmetically disguised LIVE version (Grand Crusade/Salvation). However, with each update it seems to converge more and more towards the modern version, so it is only a matter of time until people will simply reject it.
It was in Korea where the rates were cut to 1/6 of the original Chronicles. Innova doubled those rates, arriving at 1/3, shortly after the overseas version went live. Innova is NICE :D
Talking about Innova, why don't you simply play on Skelth? It's in English, and the siege times are around noon US time. That should not be too much of a hardship. Here are recent online numbers for Skelth (the second picture): http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=1265&start=870#p36621
They are deeply grateful for each player who joins them :)
By the way, account sharing, i.e. several players leveling one character in shifts, is what destroyed Innova's subscription-based business model in Russia. Now they are going free-to-play/pay-to-win: http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=1265&start=870#p36578
As Gabe pointed out, account sharing is rampant on Skelth as well, so there a similar development should be expected.
If they doubled the XP compared to KR maybe it was the drops that they didn't boost or nerfed that I'm thinking of. I just remember EU did something apart from the other servers that nobody liked, and whatever it was got corrected with the first patch(if I'm not mistaken, my memory is a bit hazy). I just remember people complaining about a change they made, but it took so long to adjust it that a lot of people had already quit.
Let me rephrase that. I want L2 Classic Progression server. That upgrades a chronicle every 6 month to year. That would be amazing.
But I don't want NCWEST to do it. They'll exploit and pervert it into a P2W abomination. That has players with +15 top grade weapons within 3 days of server launch.
Let me rephrase that. I want L2 Classic Progression server. That upgrades a chronicle every 6 month to year. That would be amazing.
But I don't want NCWEST to do it. They'll exploit and pervert it into a P2W abomination. That has players with +15 top grade weapons within 3 days of server launch.
There is worse, on that euro server Ramonna, ppl were running with lv5/6 brooch jewz on first day.I`m telling you, totally balanced and better than here :)