Neutronbowl and Salvation Release Date Predictions

General Discussion Started Last reply 16 posts
TL;DR: I predict Salvation to be released Dec 20th, 2017

================================================== ==

We've been providing monthly previews for the last year or so, including content and promotion previews. As far as I can tell, providing this kind of information has been a positive thing and I intend to continue to be as transparent and informative as I can be.

Well folks, it’s that time again! Another month has come and we’ve been met again by prolonged radio silence about the “month preview”, this time 10 days into October! I feel it’s time for another round of busting Neutron’s chops. Strap yourselves in!

It was only 10 months ago (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?p=3547768#post3547768) that Neutron was promoted to assistant producer of NCWest. We were all excited to have an increase in communication between the players and NCWest, and had been grasping at the juicy carrots dangled from the promises of the new assistant producer. What else could we possibly be in store for? These were exciting times!

The January 2017 Preview (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?p=3547769#post3547769) debuted on December 21st, 2016. A whole 10 days BEFORE the month arrived. This extra effort was undoubtedly thanks to Neutron’s holiday spirit and a desire to tie up loose ends before the holiday vacation from work. Curious to note that this was on the agenda:

Return of the Test Lab

I'll be spearheading bringing back the lab tests. We'll have more details in January once we're up and running again from the break.


I was jazzed up. I wanted more! The day following his promotion announcement, Neutron posted 16 times! Holy cow, we were spoiled! I was starting to feel great about the direction we were moving. All this communication? It felt too good to be true. And then as quickly as the elation hit me the abandonment issues began to settle in. 20 days silence (https://i.imgur.com/O9G9pbY.jpg), arguably warranted. It was the holidays, after all. And all we want is for our Assistant Producer to be merry and happy! I was hurt, however, and lashed out at our benevolent overlords (http://boards.lineage2.com/showpost.php?p=3549140&postcount=28) for the lack of attention I was getting and was then firmly reprimanded and escorted back to my place.

But Neutron was back, and boy was he at it! He managed to dust his shoulders off and expel the voices of haters from his head. He wasn’t going to allow his mind to be addled by the concerns of the impatient players! 13 more posts followed in the wake of his triumphant return in the New Year! I take back everything I said, this is gonna be AWESOME!

Neutron was putting in work. He was taking the time to respond directly to long-winded posts and being very transparent with what was in the works concerning: bringing zaken transfers online, getting rid of the bot infestation, hero coin reward update, grand crusade patchnotes translation and update preparation, imbuing the forums with a positive outlook, etc. I want us all to acknowledge that. We were getting loads of useful information back from Neutron.

There’s been an obvious taper off from his involvement on the forums. I don’t know if this is due to burnout from overexertion or if he has just been offloaded a lot more responsibility. I know it takes a long time to formulate thoughtful forum posts and to research accurate information to relay to us, so perhaps posting on the forums just takes too much time out of Neutron’s day?

Take a look at Neutron’s post-count starting the month he was promoted:
December - 20 posts
January - 35
February - 82
March - 61
April - 16
May - 24
June - 15
July - 6
August - 26
September - 15
October (one third into the month) - 2

The enormous spike in February and March was due to the upcoming Grand Crusade patch and subsequent discussion. It’s quite obvious we were spoiled during this era of Golden Information, and it was not to last. Coming up to the April release of Grand Crusade I feeling very confident in the direction Neutron was taking us. It started to feel like NCWest cared once again about Lineage 2.

As the summer months hit we hit a dry-spell in the flow of communication (maybe due to one or two summer vacations?) The 13th anniversary event was continually delayed month after month with little word on what was going on with it. Stale repeat events were met unenthusiastically,mostly due to the change or complete removal of decent rewards, and the spark of NCWest New Hope began to fade and fizzle out.

The first major exodus of 2017 hit with the announcement of the Ancient Kingdom Cloaks (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=293558). An event which spawned much zealous fervor over the ever-increasing gap between the big spenders and the casuals, and a forum thread spanning over 180 posts and 24,000 views. It’s the third most viewed topic of 2017, more popular than the Grand Crusade thread (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=292279). People were passionate about these cloaks, for better or for worse, and the decision to include them into the game came as a shock to me.

The second major exodus of 2017 came with the demise of profitable fishing (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=293670). This time Conguero shouldered the brunt of the backlash, and like a sentient inflatable punching-clown, he bounced right back up at us and came in swinging (http://boards.lineage2.com/showpost.php?p=3568356&postcount=22)! Nearing 500 replies and over 45,000 views, this fishing thread claims the top spot as 2017’s most popular (or in this case: unpopular) forum thread! This PR disaster couldn’t have come at a worse time. Neutron was busy playing host (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?p=3571180&highlight=development+team#post3571180) to the big-wigs from NCSoft Korea (a.k.a. The Development Team®) and was unable to shield Conguero from the flurry of angry customers. What I’m curious about is how much of the vitriol was directly shared with The Development Team® And what exactly their reaction to all this was?

In early August we learned that the Salvation update (http://boards.lineage2.com/showpost.php?p=3566363&postcount=4) is planned for 2017, yet nearly 2 months later there was still no test build (http://boards.lineage2.com/showpost.php?p=3570186&postcount=53) for NCWest to get to work on. Assuming Neutron will be able to deliver the update by Fall 2017 (his prediction) we can set his deadline (where Fall ends) at the winter solstice, which this year is December 21st. Updates are on Wednesday, so we need to keep our pitchforks firmly stowed away in our barns until after the December 20th Wednesday server restart. Bringing this whole long-winded, rambling manifesto of a post back full circle with my own prediction that Salvation will be live, December 20th, 2017. Neutron will have kept his word, and I’ll look like a jerk. Also, I’ll eat one of my socks and post the hospital bill as proof of my penance.
i bet next answer will be with two words "fake hope" ops they alredy start it wait future with next projects also dont forget to spend more money on events,the conclusion is if players spend good money no need changes just words where they can be true if something went wrong
Excellent job on putting this all together, sir!
dat wall of text, for nothing :D
:D The amount of detail here is impressive.

In general i'm trying to leverage our community team better as they are a resource we already have and should be using better. More or less the last year I've been the acting community manager and producer which only lets me do both things at a 50-60% capacity.

There is no specific cadence of posting i'm aiming for, I will simply post information when I think there are relevant things I can provide updates on.

~Thanks
There is no specific cadence of posting i'm aiming for, I will simply post information when I think there are relevant things I can provide updates on.




I have a feeling that we will see a topic "Neutron's Farewell" and/or "Conquero's Farewell" before we get to see "Lab Tests" thread active.

First, it was Sace->Vali->Juji->Conquero?->Neutron?:)
I have a feeling that we will see a topic "Neutron's Farewell" and/or "Conquero's Farewell" before we get to see "Lab Tests" thread active.

First, it was Sace->Vali->Juji->Conquero?->Neutron?:)

I think that too born.
Btw conguero' post about monthly previews is like "ninja events and patches mode activated".

To Neutron. I'm sure this isn't part of your job but have you ever checked how many players are playing l2 this very moment?
I'm not speaking about na servers but generally. It's more than 20k players only in na and europe. I'm not counting in russians and chinese.
Those girls and guys were all former ncwest customers.
Every now and then they return after playing an fps that's worth 50 bucks.
When they realize that with 50 bucks they can't buy even a lvl 3 jewel they run away buying another brand new game worth 50 bucks.
I don't know if you have or not any inflence on the prices but i bet you do.
You are just committing suicide every second, every hour, every day and every week.
The people wants to play l2 because lets be honest it's the best mmo ever but you are kicking them away alongside their bucks that someone else is earning right now.
And when you don't kick away all the returning players you scam the exising ones like you did with the fancy fishing rod fraud.
Tbh i'm surprised that there still someone in here because nowhere in the world you can scam people for 900 to 3600 bucks without beeing sued.
Good luck.
I think that too born.
Btw conguero' post about monthly previews is like "ninja events and patches mode activated".

*Spewing more bs how good everything is at other region(s)*

The only thing that doesn't change in your posts is the hidden agenda of "make it cheap enough for me to afford pay2win". Why can't you simply go away to those other regions where the grass is greener?
Have you missed the hints people keep giving you, namely that "you are not welcome here"?
The only thing that doesn't change in your posts is the hidden agenda of "make it cheap enough for me to afford pay2win". Why can't you simply go away to those other regions where the grass is greener?
Have you missed the hints people keep giving you, namely that "you are not welcome here"?
Devoid you are becoming dumber and dumber.
Btw when did you joined the kkk to say to somone else that he/she isn't welcomed?

I'm not playing l2 anymore but i have still some friends in here and i'm astonished they are still spending more than 1.500 us dollars x month in here.

For the rest while they have spent so much muney in here i bought a car that's worth more tha 80k us dollars. It's not about l2 na being cheaper.
It's about to have a brain and to use it.
If someone does spend more than 1500 us dollars for pixels how much should he pay for a bud in a bar? One trillion us dollars?

I do repeat it's all about having a brain and to use it.
I bet you're using mommy or daddy wallet. Good for you.
The real life does't work that way though.
Last thing i wasn't refferring to innova, since i have stopped playing l2 everywhere. I was talking about privare servers that even you could set up in less than 10 minutes with all the features you can find in here but for 0 cents.

Good luck to Devoid too.
Devoid you are becoming dumber and dumber.
Btw when did you joined the kkk to say to somone else that he/she isn't welcomed?

I'm not playing l2 anymore but i have still some friends in here and i'm astonished they are still spending more than 1.500 us dollars x month in here.

For the rest while they have spent so much muney in here i bought a car that's worth more tha 80k us dollars. It's not about l2 na being cheaper.
It's about to have a brain and to use it.
If someone does spend more than 1500 us dollars for pixels how much should he pay for a bud in a bar? One trillion us dollars?

I do repeat it's all about having a brain and to use it.
I bet you're using mommy or daddy wallet. Good for you.
The real life does't work that way though.
Last thing i wasn't refferring to innova, since i have stopped playing l2 everywhere. I was talking about privare servers that even you could set up in less than 10 minutes with all the features you can find in here but for 0 cents.

Good luck to Devoid too.
No offense but a friendly advice: get your brain checked, something's awry in your head.
TL;DR: I predict Salvation to be released Dec 20th, 2017
I’ll eat one of my socks and post the hospital bill as proof of my penance.

This is something I look forward to, by all means do post a video of the eating process. Also no salt, sauce or additives allowed just the sock and water to wash it down please, a recently worn / unwashed sock will do fine.
I'm not playing l2 anymore

TBH just move on then, you did the hard part that was quitting the game, take the final step move on for good and don't look back.
Salvation aka Gathering of World Heroes update goes live in Japan next week ;)

http://event2.ncsoft.jp/1.0/lineage2/1709update/

ps, a more real prediction is that if NCWest ever does the "Unleash the power of dragons" event server populations will drop even more hardcore - let's keep that an EU/RU only feature imo..

https://eu.4gameforum.com/threads/653572/

Aww i cant wait until this one come To NCwest. Yah it will hurt rmt rdy to go dragon weapon price , but for majority mortals this event only a light in the end of the dark tunnel :) .
+1 to this event here! :) . A chance for people. Might not everyone will be that lucky but some will be for sure.
Salvation aka Gathering of World Heroes update goes live in Japan next week ;)

http://event2.ncsoft.jp/1.0/lineage2/1709update/

ps, a more real prediction is that if NCWest ever does the "Unleash the power of dragons" event server populations will drop even more hardcore - let's keep that an EU/RU only feature imo..

https://eu.4gameforum.com/threads/653572/

Draecke are you by any chance GM Fragola?

The funniest thing ever.

We, NCWest custumers, asked to put 7s energy and dragon weapons in the L2 store. What did we get? Elcyum scam, fishing scam, modify weapon and armor drops.
They, Innova custumers, didn't asked to put 7s energy nor dragon weapons in the L2 store. What did they get? Eclyum ratio 4:4, full functioning fancy fishing rod, dragon weapons in the L2 store.

:confused:

It's like, WTF we are making requests to NCWest but Innova does what we want :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused:

I bet Juji and friends have got a brand new home in Europe. :D

Thanks Draecke/Fragola to have opened my eyes.
Take a look at Neutron’s post-count starting the month he was promoted:
December - 20 posts
January - 35
February - 82
March - 61
April - 16
May - 24
June - 15
July - 6
August - 26
September - 15
October (one third into the month) - 2

The enormous spike in February and March was due to the upcoming Grand Crusade patch and subsequent discussion. It’s quite obvious we were spoiled during this era of Golden Information, and it was not to last. Coming up to the April release of Grand Crusade I feeling very confident in the direction Neutron was taking us. It started to feel like NCWest cared once again about Lineage 2.


Oh my...L2 sherlock holmes??? Impressive!