But Seriously Folks

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Ooooook.... today they post: http://www.lineage2.com/news/news.html#a018058

"Changes to PTS and Launch Plans
The launch of Goddess of Destruction is almost upon us! As we finalize specific launch details, we had to adjust some of our original plans. One of the changes included the cancellation of plans to host a Goddess of Destruction PTS before the game update launches. We understand that this inconveniences players by eliminating the possibility to test the Awakening classes before having to choose which one they will become. To alleviate this problem, the full patch notes for the eight Awakening classes and for the Awakening race skills have been posted to the forums early. In addition, positive plans have changed regarding the Stone of Destiny: the item will be available to characters of lower level, and for longer than originally planned. More details about this event will be published in the future."

Skill list they posted = http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=219199

This is the same skill list we have all seen for months now, and it makes zero difference to people still trying to choose a class at this point. Everyone has already read that, in fact, almost all of the information there was already contained in Cryo's original post in JUNE (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=216369). There are also other sites with better descriptions of all the skills as well as actual details about skill reuse, enchant options, range, cast time, etc. (such as found here, click on the class you are interested in: http://www.terragamers.net/wiki/index.php?title=Goddess_of_Destruction_Preview#Cla sses )

Therefore, posting that skill list on official forums means nothing, and also does nothing to compensate for no PTS. To be clear, posting that in NO WAY alleviates the problem.

People want PTS because since official patch notes are so non-specific, with no real numbers about damage or reuse etc, we all know that we have to actually test things in game to really know what will actually happen on a live server. Also, some people are worried that there will be too many pink fairies and such; we also just want to simply SEE the skills for ourselves and what they look like as well to get an overall feel of the class in general. What things look like and sound like is just as important as what skills do and how they work; pressing the button yourself in game helps you get a real feel for the class in actual game play, and since most of us play our chars for years, yea it's a bit important.

Now, changes to the Stone of Destiny IS actually a good thing and an actual step in the right direction of making up for not having a PTS.

But, I would also argue that only making it available to lower levels or lasting longer is not yet sufficient to actually compensate for no PTS.

IF at the least you gave each char two Stones of Destiny (or more), with no expiration date, then we could possibly think about sufficient compensation for not being able to test the class beforehand, because then you could at least change to something else if you ended up hating your first choice. It would still, however, cost us a lot of our own adena/time/armors/weapons to do the testing on our own actual chars on live server.

Finally, I still want to know if the Stone of Destiny is given to ALL chars 76+ (or whatever level it will be set at), whether the account is active before Nov 30 or not. Because if not I have to reactivate some accounts before Nov 30, but I would hope it is given, because if not it would screw over the many players who will be returning only at free to play time.
My account expires on November 28th, and it would suck not to get the stone because of that.
+1 on giving stone of destiny to all accounts
my main account expires november, 27 and i dont want to reactivate it cuz we even dont know list of items and prices in NCcoins. and i was going to awaken into other class
Now really, tell us the truth, how many of you at NCWest actually play LineageII?
Because obviously you have no idea about this game :(
unless we get R grade armor & weapons of all types with sa's etc. (shadow gear) and enough stones of destiny to test out all new classes on each account these changes are meaningless..

honestly it's easier & cheaper on the long run to give us a PTS as there's so much more besides testing the new classes that folks want to verify..
Shortest joke ever: "GoD PTS"

6 letters only!!! :D :D :D
Shortest joke ever: "GoD PTS"

6 letters only!!! :D :D :D
NCsoft fit too
unless we get R grade armor & weapons of all types with sa's etc. (shadow gear) and enough stones of destiny to test out all new classes on each account these changes are meaningless..

honestly it's easier & cheaper on the long run to give us a PTS as there's so much more besides testing the new classes that folks want to verify..

What announcement is saying that stone of destiny thing will last longer and characters which are <76 will be able to receive them as well meaning that once you change the class you're screwed.
it better also means you can re use it on an already awaken char else the whole mentioning of the stone is 1 big fail..
it better also means you can re use it on an already awaken char else the whole mentioning of the stone is 1 big fail..
+1

Tho i mostly guess it's a fail, BUT we can buy this stone for NC Coins...
it better also means you can re use it on an already awaken char else the whole mentioning of the stone is 1 big fail..

Sadly there's not a single word to that. The awakening is based on 1 time only quest, once you've done with it you've done with it, stone of destiny is just a tool in the end(or beginning) to choose your new class once. Unless they plan on reseting awakening quest every week and giving stones of destiny I wouldn't be holding my breath.
BUT we can buy this stone for NC Coins...

useless for those that want to test different classes if you can't reset the whole awakening process..

only good for new players that only realize at a late state they picked the wrong class to lvl up..
useless for those that want to test different classes if you can't reset the whole awakening process..

only good for new players that only realize at a late state they picked the wrong class to lvl up..

I know it, you know it, but i doubt NCWest knows it.
In addition, positive plans have changed regarding the Stone of Destiny: the item will be available to characters of lower level, and for longer than originally plannedI was wonder, how many stones of destiny, can help me....
Now I see that it not only me have same problem :D

Anyway can I ask for explanation?

"item will be available to characters of lower level" means:
to all mine chars ( x 7 each ) at account regardless of lvl?
to all mine alts + subs at account ?
to just highest at account char regardless of level?

Sadly I don't have mine accounts full of 85/80 to test :D

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Idea of semi PTS.

Maybe NC would create some group of accounts - testable - on real server, with all combination:rolleyes: ?
Since December all are for free so it doesn't matter.

To cover all questions doubts of players, we need:
27 types (initial) x 8 (target) == 729 accounts.... maybe x 2 as we have 2 servers.
People just could log and check stats, skils ...
It is not going cover ful PTS, to check exp areas, quests etc, but at least help to see chars and basic tests.
Semi PTS.

Automatic logout - 10 min and cool down to reuse by IP - 3 h.
As we have roughly 1000 ppl now should work.....

So Folks?
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Idea of semi PTS.

Maybe NC would create some group of accounts - testable - on real server, with all combination:rolleyes: ?
Since December all are for free so it doesn't matter.

To cover all questions doubts of players, we need:
27 types (initial) x 8 (target) == 729 accounts.... maybe x 2 as we have 2 servers.
People just could log and check stats, skils ...
It is not going cover ful PTS, to check exp areas, quests etc, but at least help to see chars and basic tests.
Semi PTS.

Automatic logout - 10 min and cool down to reuse by IP - 3 h.
As we have roughly 1000 ppl now should work.....

So Folks?

But that would be an innovation.
It would mean that someone has to sit down and right a few lines of code/script w/e.

So . . . it will never happen.
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