As you know, for the first time ever, players voted on the Castle Siege time for a new server, Bartz. Because of Lineage II's ever-growing global population, we now extend the vote to all other servers, but with additional effects. Cast your vote and help decide on your main server's server-time!
What Does this Poll Decide?
This poll asks you what time you want Castle Sieges to occur on your main server (what time is convenient for you), and the winning time will affect the server's entire time zone setting. All scheduled events on a server follow a synchronized calendar. By changing the Castle Siege time, the rest of the timers on the server, such as Territory Wars and daily quest reset times, are changed to match the new schedule.
Chronos and Shilen: Next Castle Sieges are on January 15, 2012.
Naia and Magmeld: Next Castle Sieges are on January 22, 2012.
Who Can Vote and When?
The Siege Times Poll is open for voting for two weeks, from 7pm on January 12 to 7pm on January 26, 2012 (PST).
Each game account may vote only once in the poll, not once per server. Therefore, be certain to vote on your main server only. To be eligible to vote, you must have a character that is level 20 or higher on the server you wish to vote for.
Players that previously voted in the Bartz Poll may also vote in this poll.
Leave it the same i have played this server for almost 6yrs. My life is built around this time please gawd dont change it /wrists if u dooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i just had to make a forum acc for this, why are you wasting our time voting on Naia's time? its a GMT +1 server, now all the people that come to Naia to xp just coz the mentee system, can now vote to RUIN the GMT+1 server time zone back to some USA zone. When they shouldnt of come on Naia if they didnt like the time zone from the start, Naia was clearly marked as EURO / GMT+1 time zone for 5years, including in the server list when you login to game
On the new servers this idea may be good, but on Chronos and Naia its not needed, this just looks like you trying to look busy by doing silly things, servers are still full of near 1k twinks near town Gatekeeps on Naia for this event, still 3-5 ADENA selling spam chars in each town abusing shout and setting shop with web URL. If you dont want to deal with this, give me the access to wipe out bots not on true clients and the adena spammers, i will do it no problem.
DEAR NAIA PLAYERS, to keep the seige to the CURRRENT GOOD time we have now, VOTE for seige to be 16:00 HOURS on TIMEZONE GMT +1, Thank you.
i just had to make a forum acc for this, why are you wasting our time voting on Naia's time? its a GMT +1 server, now all the people that come to Naia to xp just coz the mentee system, can now vote to RUIN the GMT+1 server time zone back to some USA zone. When they shouldnt of come on Naia if they didnt like the time zone from the start, Naia was clearly marked as EURO / GMT+1 time zone for 5years, including in the server list when you login to game
On the new servers this idea may be good, but on Chronos and Naia its not needed, this just looks like you trying to look busy by doing silly things, servers are still full of near 1k twinks near town Gatekeeps on Naia for this event, still 3-5 ADENA selling spam chars in each town abusing shout and setting shop with web URL. If you dont want to deal with this, give me the access to wipe out bots not on true clients and the adena spammers, i will do it no problem.
DEAR NAIA PLAYERS, to keep the seige to the CURRRENT GOOD time we have now, VOTE for seige to be 16:00 HOURS on TIMEZONE GMT +1, Thank you.
I agree. They should keep Chronos and Naia the way it is.
If Chronos and Naia end up with +8 Beijing Time Zone, I wont be surprised. Considering ongoing event :D:D:D
I would laugh when Chronos and Naia turn into +8 GMT time. That's better for me anyway :rolleyes: lol
Why should this even be considered, as stated above mine, there is one server clearly marked for EU time zone, and considering that this is a NA L2 server why are you about to change that ?
You should have launched new EU servers when launching the newer NA servers then.
If you go through with the vote, you should consider at least allowing for free transfer off the affected server.
After all it would hardly be the players fault that you now decide to change our time zones on us when we initially picked a server due to it's time zone and the affect it has on our play time.
As you know, for the first time ever, players voted on the Castle Siege time for a new server, Bartz. Because of Lineage II's ever-growing global population, we now extend the vote to all other servers, but with additional effects. Cast your vote and help decide on your main server's server-time!
What Does this Poll Decide?
This poll asks you what time you want Castle Sieges to occur on your main server (what time is convenient for you), and the winning time will affect the server's entire time zone setting. All scheduled events on a server follow a synchronized calendar. By changing the Castle Siege time, the rest of the timers on the server, such as Territory Wars and daily quest reset times, are changed to match the new schedule.
Chronos and Shilen: Next Castle Sieges are on January 15, 2012.
Naia and Magmeld: Next Castle Sieges are on January 22, 2012.
Who Can Vote and When?
The Siege Times Poll is open for voting for two weeks, from 7pm on January 12 to 7pm on January 26, 2012 (PST).
Each game account may vote only once in the poll, not once per server. Therefore, be certain to vote on your main server only. To be eligible to vote, you must have a character that is level 20 or higher on the server you wish to vote for.
Players that previously voted in the Bartz Poll may also vote in this poll.
This is just another genius move by nc soft to alienate its long time customer base... 100% of the people who played on chronos had the chance to play on euro time zones before and after the free to play and merges, IF now because of the influx of priv server trash that had every opportunity to start on naia, we on chronos are moved to euro times, i will quit alongside of every north american player on chronos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can understand some people wanting to move siege times earlier or oly earlier in the day so that those who have to work early monday dont have to stay up as late, however IMO it is insane for ncwest to allow a change that could make it impossible for NA players, who live in the country where the business is based and the servers are run, to participate in the events that mean anything in this game.
I know some can point to the fact that many euros play on chronos, BUT THAT WAS THEIR CHOICE!!!!! Forcing out the rest of the NA population would be a severely bad move for ncsoft as a company...
i just had to make a forum acc for this, why are you wasting our time voting on Naia's time? its a GMT +1 server, now all the people that come to Naia to xp just coz the mentee system, can now vote to RUIN the GMT+1 server time zone back to some USA zone. When they shouldnt of come on Naia if they didnt like the time zone from the start, Naia was clearly marked as EURO / GMT+1 time zone for 5years, including in the server list when you login to game
On the new servers this idea may be good, but on Chronos and Naia its not needed, this just looks like you trying to look busy by doing silly things, servers are still full of near 1k twinks near town Gatekeeps on Naia for this event, still 3-5 ADENA selling spam chars in each town abusing shout and setting shop with web URL. If you dont want to deal with this, give me the access to wipe out bots not on true clients and the adena spammers, i will do it no problem.
DEAR NAIA PLAYERS, to keep the seige to the CURRRENT GOOD time we have now, VOTE for seige to be 16:00 HOURS on TIMEZONE GMT +1, Thank you.
This!
Instead of complaining about them changing times, go vote for the time you want. Also encourage your friends to vote for times they want. It's not hard to do.
Not everyone works a 8-5 job so to speak, even in NA. Sometimes NA times for NA players don't always fit their life style/schedule and if tweaked by xx amount of hours would be better for that specific player. (They could have kids and only be able to play after the kids are asleep, people could work night shift, or any number of things.)
All of the complaining is amusing to be honest. Mainly because they are giving people a vote to use, yet everyone acts as if they have no say in the matter.
Hmm NCSoft want to make from Eu server NA server hmmm.
All Naia players should vote that siege should remain how it is!
We dont need no changes :|
There were dozens of QQ topic about making EU timed servers so NC gave you opportunity to vote if you really want it or no. And now people QQ that they dont wanna change. I really dont undestand you people. Anyway I find it stupid to post here things like "omg Naia will turn into NA, NC is stupid and betray us" because everyone who joined Naia came here because it was EU server (and almost everyone who came to Chronos came here because it was NA) so there is no chance to change it to other timezone simply because people playing here will want to play in the timezone that those servers already have. Voting on Naia so far comfirms it. Voting on new servers is different thing and honestly if there is majority of EU players I dont see a reason why at least one server shouldnt be turned into GMT+1 timezone. Player transfers would in that case be convient.
This is the bad time to make a poll for the 2 old servers,chronos and naia,since we all know that during events,tonz of people including farmers/noobies/ex players/random players that change prive server every week,make-reactivate accounts to make adena.And OOOHHH,we are free2play servers now,so ANYONE,who is not related to our servers at all,can grab the opportunity and be here.
Naia hours have been decided from the very begining and we the euro customers have PAYED for them,when the siege/tw days/times changed and forced us to leave behind whatever we had created and move to the euro servers which after the final merge all combined into Naia!
We,customers of Ncsoft,have suffered all these years from all the mistakes you have done for this game,we are going to get really angry if you mess this time with the only server is left for us to play.
My suggestion also is,you should put this poll INSIDE game,since most of the old players dont enter forum ever,even for coin shop there is online shop now,while new players are redirected into site from the moment they start game through obtain items for class change/path awakening.
Sorry the question Sace,but why did you include on pool Naia?
Most of ppl who came here after GOD launch went to naia because it was the only EU based server.If for any reason its time becomes different from european one then you just found a good way to ruin all our effords on that server.What shall we supposed to do then?Tarnsfer on magmeld losing 90% of the items we gained?It's rly not a wise decision from the team.Leave Naia,the only european server time untouched.
PS: So, this is all that is needed to be said about NCWest and their promise before moving Naia to US loc.
"Naia will remain EU timezone".....
Seriously, now you start a poll to change the timezone....
Soo many ppl said you will change the timezone and your answer was no, it will stay as it is.....
Betrayal has reached a new lvl. How shall we belive any of your words anymore?
PS: So, this is all that is needed to be said about NCWest and their promise before moving Naia to US loc.
"Naia will remain EU timezone".....
Seriously, now you start a poll to change the timezone....
Soo many ppl said you will change the timezone and your answer was no, it will stay as it is.....
Betrayal has reached a new lvl. How shall we belive any of your words anymore?
(PTS, ye we will have a PTS before GoD :mad:)
ncsoft breaks more promises than a politician. also lol@ voting, they will change it if the "international" numbers justify it regardless of what we vote for. Theyve done it before and they will do it again. If voting could change anything it would be illegal!
PS: So, this is all that is needed to be said about NCWest and their promise before moving Naia to US loc.
"Naia will remain EU timezone".....
Seriously, now you start a poll to change the timezone....
Soo many ppl said you will change the timezone and your answer was no, it will stay as it is.....
Betrayal has reached a new lvl. How shall we belive any of your words anymore?
(PTS, ye we will have a PTS before GoD :mad:)
and what about this?
Is it so easy to say 1 thing and then change idea without 1st asking ppl opinions?
As someone said it would be wise to allocate regional server names. Regardless of the server name please dedicate servers to specific regions.
E.g. below
Chronos - American
Naia - Euro
Magmeld - Asia
Shilen - Oceanic
Bart - Whatever ever else
I live in australia and it would be nice to play on a server that is dedicated to the nations around that region being north, south, west & east time based. Get people to choose which server they want to play on and make it a one choice option. Yes it would be a huge job for ncsoft to work on peoples accounts and do the transfer but it would be worth it.
At the moment I hate playing on chronos server ever since sayha was merged to it. I'm stuck with people saying either make it euro or US time based. In fact don't the other people who are not based around those times have a voice to be heard.
woudn't it be that hard to open a fresh new server with EU times instead of having 3 servers with exactly the same GMT? ¬¬
what i fear is essentially this.
That this pool may end up with all servers having totally different timezones than now.And,in the worst case,all the same time (hard but could happen)
Instead of complaining about possible changes on Naia/Chronos, better advertise the vote to your friends/clan mates, to vote the desired GMT. Is simple. If Naia have 5000+ active EU players, they will vote GMT+1 (or if they are stupid, they will vote a random gmt, because they dont know what to do...).
So, just advertise in game to your friends/clan mates. Farmers accounts, might not vote in this their time zone (i hope), they will stay neutral... (i really hope) otherwise, most of servers will go on china timezone (or where they come from :D).
I'm from Eu zone and i play on Naia with other 6 friends of mine, since after a quick start on magmeld the timezone was totally incompatible with our time.
I can understand ppl complain about the different timezone but, c'mon...can't u take come up to a choice after 1 week of play? In our example we decided to move and reroll after 1 week instead of come with this decision after 1-2 months when things would have turn into impossible for us (i.e. siege, tw, maybe epics in a short/long future who knows), so if u didn't, was your choice to accept the server settings.
This is not a private server you were used to play (and i played too aswell), where QQ = Admin/Gms give us presents.
I understand Nc want to make more money, but is also true that looks like to me they have 0 respect to ppl payed years for play here, that's why i'll vote for keep Naia server time the same is now.
Instead of change the servers timezone for main event after ppl choose them with the knowledge of how it was setted (and that would be totally unfair), think about give us Eu players a **** new server, since on Naia we are more than packed all togheter
There were dozens of QQ topic about making EU timed servers so NC gave you opportunity to vote if you really want it or no. And now people QQ that they dont wanna change. I really dont undestand you people. Anyway I find it stupid to post here things like "omg Naia will turn into NA, NC is stupid and betray us" because everyone who joined Naia came here because it was EU server (and almost everyone who came to Chronos came here because it was NA) so there is no chance to change it to other timezone simply because people playing here will want to play in the timezone that those servers already have. Voting on Naia so far comfirms it. Voting on new servers is different thing and honestly if there is majority of EU players I dont see a reason why at least one server shouldnt be turned into GMT+1 timezone. Player transfers would in that case be convient.
The problem its too late from my opinion for a new eu time server!
If we hve an eu time server why we must change it? if we have an NA time server why we must change it!?
I have been playing since C3. I am EU timezone and I started in OLD Bartz (since they didnt offer a euro server at that time). When Naia was introduced, I had already become S grade and noble, I was in a clan where I had made rl friends, I had on me 3-4 s grade weapons and armor sets, jewels, stuff etc. If I were to tranfer that would mean I would have lost a lot of things + money. I finally get to vote for the time zone I want to play in, without having to reroll or loose things I spent 6 years gathering.
Instead of complaining about possible changes on Naia/Chronos, better advertise the vote to your friends/clan mates, to vote the desired GMT. Is simple. If Naia have 5000+ active EU players, they will vote GMT+1 (or if they are stupid, they will vote a random gmt, because they dont know what to do...).
That's exactly what I'm doing right now. Call your clannies and friends, leave instructions on the votes to give (GMT+1 :eek:), advertise and profit.
Otherwise I'll have to sleep at midday after a night of TW :eek:
This is a horrible idea Sace =/, time-zone considerations were taken into account by people before they even started on those servers. If people choose to change their playtimes at a later time then they can transfer.
Don't think its such a bad idea; there was always a very large number of non-americans playing on NA servers due to popularity/population/roleplay (eg. Lionna) and other reasons. In fact there seems more people from other countries (Greece, Russia, Germany, France, etc) on Chronos than american timezone countries.
Please transmit you Bosses that they should stop going crazy!!
And to leave Chronos and Naia on they original siege time and vote only for Magmeld and Shilien.
Day to day its becoming a catastrophe to play on official server,
I was an private server player and when i saw that l2 offi is going to f2p i has leaven that server and came here.
It was fun until January but after each day pass the situation out of controll.
So please NCWest stop with this Auto destruction!!!
changing siege times on the servers established long time ago is such a brilliant idea to repulse the old players, ncsoft is ruining the game at much faster pace than i anticipated.
Oh yeah right... ***c up the Naia & Chronos siege times please... IMO you should leave the 2 old servers as they were (EU/US) and only allow the votes for Shilen & Magmeld.
Beause, hypothetically... Naia becomes a US server and Chronos a EU server (highly unlikely IMO, but you never know with NCSoft). Will we all get FREE TRANSFERS to the other server and KEEP ALL OUR STUFF WE HAVE? I mean, Naia & Chronos have both a very old population and players with subclasses DO NEED TO KEEP different sets of gear (armor & weapons). With the current transfer system, only 1 set can be tansferred, so either one of the char's classes will be fully geared while the other classes need new stuff (and I bet a lot of players already have bought more than 1 weapon R-Grade for the main/dual classes...)
Anyway, I'll vote Naia EU and Crhonos US so both have to stay as they were for me.
I've been playing on Chronos for 7 years... changing the time to Euro time now would push me over the edge. I can't play in oly/sieges during those times.
Why should this even be considered, as stated above mine, there is one server clearly marked for EU time zone, and considering that this is a NA L2 server why are you about to change that ?
You should have launched new EU servers when launching the newer NA servers then.
If you go through with the vote, you should consider at least allowing for free transfer off the affected server.
After all it would hardly be the players fault that you now decide to change our time zones on us when we initially picked a server due to it's time zone and the affect it has on our play time.
before L2 went F2P this issue has already been discussed... We (old Naia players) predicted that Naia would be merged to Chronos and would become a US-time server.
Okay, we were WRONG about the merge since both servers are FULL 24/7 now, so I'm happy with that. But still NC thinks they have to screw EU players over by allowing these ******* STUPID POLLS???
REALLY, THERE'S NO END TO THE STUPIDITY OF NCSOFT IF YOU ASK ME TO ALLOW THESE POLLS FOR THE 2 OLD SERVERS. THEY DID TELL THAT THEY'D NOT CHANGE TIMES FOR THEM BEFORE F2P.
My thoughts are that less than half from server population is actually going
to vote. Although from what I see until now on the voting graphs, it's not
looking too good. I agree with the people who said that Chronos and Naia
should remain as they are.
Now I have a question, voting will influence all server time related activities
like sieges, territory wars, olympiad and others? Or just siege times will
change like on Bartz and the rest keep their time before voting?
Each game account may vote only once in the poll, not once per server. Therefore, be certain to vote on your main server only. To be eligible to vote, you must have a character that is level 20 or higher on the server you wish to vote for.
I am having a lil problem with this. Don't you think the character lvl should be a lil higher, say lvl 75+ to vote. From what I understand it only takes a few min to get to lvl 20 + a few min to make a new account. I am sure you guys don't want a repeat of the past event. But I can see how some might want to vote as many times as they can.
How the ** do you release a server on US time zones and then after a monthsworth of game time say I got it lets change the servers time.... stupid... just plain stupid... if I wanted to play on a ***** time server I would have started on Naia or inovova or w/e it was called
Now I have a question, voting will influence all server time related activities
like sieges, territory wars, olympiad and others? Or just siege times will
change like on Bartz and the rest keep their time before voting?
all time related events will be changed based on the winning timezone
Well then that sucks, even though I'm from Europe, I'm against changing the
timezone for Chronos.
There should be three (3) NA servers and two (2) EU. This way all people will
be satisfied.
I say again, Chronos and Naia should keep their original timezones!
Terrible idea to change the timezone for Chronos. If that ends up happening alot of the clans will not be able to participate in the seiges since they will be happening during times when people are at work and school.
Terrible idea to change the timezone for Chronos. If that ends up happening alot of the clans will not be able to participate in the seiges since they will be happening during times when people are at work and school.
Absolutely pointless...
+1
...I'm not playing on Chronos, but IMO the 2 old servers should stay as they were!
Terrible idea to change the timezone for Chronos. If that ends up happening alot of the clans will not be able to participate in the seiges since they will be happening during times when people are at work and school.
Absolutely pointless...
First of all: we are in one of biggest PVE clans on Chronos and imagine what: we had to stop EU players invitations because we were getting into to be more Euro clan than NA. It is great idea to include Chronos there too. As somebody already said: even for lot of NA players current times are not very good. So best thing to do is just VOTE for your best time. Make all possible people to VOTE and decide really best time for most of server population, not only to few.
And for those who QQ that euro players should be already playing on Naia: it is not true, when I was starting L2 there was NO euro server and so far I had NO CHANCE to move my COMPLETE account to the euro server. Current server transfer rules are not acceptable for me to move to another server even if it would be free (which it was, but still sucked).
And a note: only lvl 20 chars "existing till this morning" should have been accepted to vote"...
Terrible idea to change the timezone for Chronos. If that ends up happening alot of the clans will not be able to participate in the seiges since they will be happening during times when people are at work and school.
Absolutely pointless...
Do u play on Chronos for long?
Cause as long i remember most of the ''top'' clans cant participate in 2nd Sieges.
I am a euro player on Chronos and while I do not agreee NA should lose there server I do believe there could be a compromise?
But rightly said Naia is the EU server - The only reason I am not there is because just over a year ago some friends asked me to try l2 out.. So I did and naturally joined the NA server with them
First of all: we are in one of biggest PVE clans on Chronos and imagine what: we had to stop EU players invitations because we were getting into to be more Euro clan than NA. It is great idea to include Chronos there too. As somebody already said: even for lot of NA players current times are not very good. So best thing to do is just VOTE for your best time. Make all possible people to VOTE and decide really best time for most of server population, not only to few.
And for those who QQ that euro players should be already playing on Naia: it is not true, when I was starting L2 there was NO euro server and so far I had NO CHANCE to move my COMPLETE account to the euro server. Current server transfer rules are not acceptable for me to move to another server even if it would be free (which it was, but still sucked).
And a note: only lvl 20 chars "existing till this morning" should have been accepted to vote"...
Thats the thing you are PVE the whole point of this vote is essentially make the PVP aspect of the game based on certain timezones. So considering that fact it seems like all the people who don't participate in any seiges and what not are just changing the timezone so it fits them even though they are not participating in PVP aspect.
You also said getting alot of EU people recently so by that I would assume it was when it became F2P(again assuming so correct me if I am wrong) means they are coming in recently when Naia said it was Euro. Their fault in joining a NA server when Naia CLEARLY states its Euro time zone.
All i say is leave Chronos and Naia they way they are. Allow a one time server transfer with all gear so people can play on either of those with out any hassle. That way everyone for the most part is appeased. Instead of inciting this horrible rift thats going to come.
Just some funny thing of a clan member. After he couldn't log in due to high traffic for several days he petitioned it for fun.
And guess what the respond was from the support team:
"Log in during non peak times" LOL :confused: :rolleyes:
As all what we do is w8ing to play. No1 of us works/goes to school/need sleep etc.
Just some funny thing of a clan member. After he couldn't log in due to high traffic for several days he petitioned it for fun.
And guess what the respond was from the support team:
"Log in during non peak times" LOL :confused: :rolleyes:
As all what we do is w8ing to play. No1 of us works/goes to school/need sleep etc.
Heh. I guess someone is projecting their own work ethic on the players. :D
Thats the thing you are PVE the whole point of this vote is essentially make the PVP aspect of the game based on certain timezones. So considering that fact it seems like all the people who don't participate in any seiges and what not are just changing the timezone so it fits them even though they are not participating in PVP aspect.
I knew you'll touch it. Yes, PvE clans are there, we are not PvP-ing a lot but we want to be able to make sieges, territory wars and campaigns in other than 3am times. You can PvP any time anyway, if you like it so much...
You also said getting alot of EU people recently so by that I would assume it was when it became F2P(again assuming so correct me if I am wrong) means they are coming in recently when Naia said it was Euro. Their fault in joining a NA server when Naia CLEARLY states its Euro time zone.
No, it's not their fault, because they are either just returning players or new players from free servers joining their buddies who have been playing on NA servers as I was, because there were no others at time of their start. Simply accept it, on Chronos there are plenty of EU players whenever you like it or not. And Chronos is result of many many servers merging, so old timezones stuff is not too relevant any more. Let's focuse on future. I think most of EU players does not want pure EU times, just like 4 hours sooner as it is now to be able to actually participate in most of 'events'.
All i say is leave Chronos and Naia they way they are. Allow a one time server transfer with all gear so people can play on either of those with out any hassle. That way everyone for the most part is appeased. Instead of inciting this horrible rift thats going to come.
I would +1 the idea of free whole account transfer possibility with applying rules as on servers merge, just to single transferring account. However it would still mean leaving lot of NA buddies behind...
This is just another genius move by nc soft to alienate its long time customer base... 100% of the people who played on chronos had the chance to play on euro time zones before and after the free to play and merges, IF now because of the influx of priv server trash that had every opportunity to start on naia, we on chronos are moved to euro times, i will quit alongside of every north american player on chronos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can understand some people wanting to move siege times earlier or oly earlier in the day so that those who have to work early monday dont have to stay up as late, however IMO it is insane for ncwest to allow a change that could make it impossible for NA players, who live in the country where the business is based and the servers are run, to participate in the events that mean anything in this game.
I know some can point to the fact that many euros play on chronos, BUT THAT WAS THEIR CHOICE!!!!! Forcing out the rest of the NA population would be a severely bad move for ncsoft as a company...
Euro garble qq incoming
ur by far the dumbest ****** i have seen on this board
who gives a flying **** about chronos when all euro's are on naia and its the only EURO server out there
why would u give a flying **** when all the other servers are NA servers
euro's are the one who get ****** over by chance to get server turned into epic fail siege/oly etc times
on the other hand i do not understand why naia/chronos are on the vote list these servers are around since the start (yes i dont look at merges) people play on chronos/naia because it suits their time
we dont need a **** vote we had 7 years to choose if u made mistake u had 7 years to switch servers *** this dumb vote system
First of all: we are in one of biggest PVE clans on Chronos and imagine what: we had to stop EU players invitations because we were getting into to be more Euro clan than NA. It is great idea to include Chronos there too. As somebody already said: even for lot of NA players current times are not very good. So best thing to do is just VOTE for your best time. Make all possible people to VOTE and decide really best time for most of server population, not only to few.
And for those who QQ that euro players should be already playing on Naia: it is not true, when I was starting L2 there was NO euro server and so far I had NO CHANCE to move my COMPLETE account to the euro server. Current server transfer rules are not acceptable for me to move to another server even if it would be free (which it was, but still sucked).
And a note: only lvl 20 chars "existing till this morning" should have been accepted to vote"...
im not playing on chronos cus im euro i didnt choose from chronos cus i wanna siege so i went teon, after euro servers came out
ncsoft shouldnt give a **** about chronos/naia nor any other servers
make new server +1gmt timezone cus all the other servers are NA based thus means its useless for euro's who want to do more then pve
if u join a NA server as euro u accept the fact that timezones are **** for you
if u join euro server as NA player u accept the fact that timezones are **** for you
u cant blame ncsoft for that they merged NA with NA servers and EU with EU servers
so saying well chronos got merged with other servers is dumb excuse because they played on NA server before merge also
What's funny is if all the servers get changed to EU times it would just prove to NCSOFT that pulling out of europe was a MASSIVE mistake.
No one likes INNOVA - all the euro's have come here and we're even playing on servers located in the USA despite that fact.
NCSOFT need to tell INNOVA to shove that agreement where the sun don't shine and move back into europe, it seems there's a lot more european players than they previously thought :cool: and having 4/5 servers on EU times when the servers are located in the USA won't make any sense what so ever
I started on Hindemith long time ago ... --> when was free transfers to euro i had full acc of chars tons of equipment and stuff
Transfer was like scifi for me...
Now my dreams have a form =)
i vote for gmt+1 time zone as i know in peak time from 6pm -> 2 am gmt +1 so its will be cool move to this hours server events also =)
That one of best surprice what i ever have here.
Big thanks =)
First of all: we are in one of biggest PVE clans on Chronos and imagine what: we had to stop EU players invitations because we were getting into to be more Euro clan than NA. It is great idea to include Chronos there too. As somebody already said: even for lot of NA players current times are not very good. So best thing to do is just VOTE for your best time. Make all possible people to VOTE and decide really best time for most of server population, not only to few.
And for those who QQ that euro players should be already playing on Naia: it is not true, when I was starting L2 there was NO euro server and so far I had NO CHANCE to move my COMPLETE account to the euro server. Current server transfer rules are not acceptable for me to move to another server even if it would be free (which it was, but still sucked).
And a note: only lvl 20 chars "existing till this morning" should have been accepted to vote"...
WTH does a PVE clan care about seige times anyway? Btw what is the name of your clan anyway? For the record I dont care what server a EURO plays on but you came to this server knowing the current times of the seiges. Do not QQ now.
Chronos is a NORTH AMERICAN SERVER and to whipe ***** all over the faces of your player base who stuck by you when all these free 2 players where busy playing on free servers is retarted on your part NCWEST. Your ability to miss manage this game is amazing. I think a one armed monkey rejected from the NASA testing facility who was blind with his nose plugged could do a better job.
Here is some sound advice. Instead of continuing to screw up everything you touch. TRY FIXING THE CRAP BROKEN AND NOT WORKING SINCE GOD RELEASED.
I love L2, my clan, my clan mates, the old skewl player base and with all of that everyday I continue to play on your servers I feel my frustration grow with NCWESTS in abillity to anything right. It is a matter of time until alot of your old player base who paid your checks finally have had enough and those things that hold me and them here are not enough.
The problem its too late from my opinion for a new eu time server!
If we hve an eu time server why we must change it? if we have an NA time server why we must change it!?
because ncsoft expects the influx of third world players to pay more money than europeans and americans if they change the time zones for some reason. They forget that the reason they werent here before IS BECAUSE THEY HAD NO MONEY.
When I chose Lionna back in the day, I was living in Italy. I knew fully well Manoring times would be at crazy hours in my day, I knew everything else in the server would work at US times. I chose it back in the day because Lionna had a lot of Roleplayers.
But it was a CONSCIOUS choice. I have 3 chars on Naia too (forgot the original EU server name, it was where I first rolled before I learned Lionna had many roleplayers). When the servers were merged, it became Chronos. Whoever chose Chronos did so knowing that the times were screwed up if they were in Europe.
It would have been the same if US players had chosen Naia, knowing they were in EU times, and then complained because they couldn't do anything. If you chose Chronos, be that for friends, or because there was no EU server back in the day, you did so knowing that you'd be screwed up for times.
So why should the US players, who don't really have a choice now as their servers were merged, have their server times changed because there are a lot of europeans on Chronos who don't want to reroll / restart on Naia?
Selfishness. I hate it. And I was an European player on Chronos (previously Lionna and Aria) and I would STILL not vote for EU times.
So I started on this server BECAUSE it was on US times and now you are going to pull the ******* rug from under my feet and roll the freaking times 4 hours earlier????
NCsoft you took 300+ dollars from my accounts when you gave me NClolCoins for my remaining time. Are you seriously going to do this ****???????
So I started on this server BECAUSE it was on US times and now you are going to pull the ******* rug from under my feet and roll the freaking times 4 hours earlier????
NCsoft you took 300+ dollars from my accounts when you gave me NClolCoins for my remaining time. Are you seriously going to do this ****???????
Dont be selfish! Be sacrificed for the majority :P TROL-lol-lol...
I am prety sure there are more old players that vote kinda earlier times...than new players ;)
I am pretty sure that is not the case. NcWest is pandering to all the free to pay players who came here BECAUSE IT IS FREE. If they where going to spend money they would have been here with the rest of us all along and not on some crap private server.
I am pretty sure that is not the case. NcWest is pandering to all the free to pay players who came here BECAUSE IT IS FREE. If they where going to spend money they would have been here with the rest of us all along and not on some crap private server.
Well dunno! Maybe i am wrong! But at least 1h earlier and decrease the ''break'' between 2 sieges to 1h instead of 2h will be sweet for me.
And it will fit for everyone (almost). Euros (not the best since it will still be after midnight for second siege...but still at least 1st siege will be much more normal), North Americans, Latinos.
The poll only shows the current state of the game. At this moment there seems to be more eu players on Chronos ~500 then NA ~130 players (based on poll results). Most of the players do not check forums or do not write on forums to come here and tell you they want the change.. so they VOTED for it. So please don't tell me that half players of Chronos will quit because of the time change because more then half of the population on Chronos are EU players.
Voting is something that people can do to express their opinions and I think it is a wonderful idea.
wow is all i have to say .. it means more ppl from either west coast time zones or other than US time zones want to vote to change the times. A victory for we nightshift workers in the west hehehehe i can actually seige at a decent time for me or just wake up a bit early to seige:)
Not sure why they need to mess things up even more, history has shown that when you guys start “tweaking” stuff you break it. This is simple, leave Chronos and Naia times alone and vote on time setting for the new servers. If any players want a particular time they can PAY NCSoft for a server change.
This is so simple it amazes me you guys didn’t do it this way BEFORE you opened new servers… just ask the community what time they want a new server.
Honestly, please direct resources to fixing all the broke “issues” before creating new ones.
i just had to make a forum acc for this, why are you wasting our time voting on Naia's time? its a GMT +1 server, now all the people that come to Naia to xp just coz the mentee system, can now vote to RUIN the GMT+1 server time zone back to some USA zone. When they shouldnt of come on Naia if they didnt like the time zone from the start, Naia was clearly marked as EURO / GMT+1 time zone for 5years, including in the server list when you login to game
On the new servers this idea may be good, but on Chronos and Naia its not needed, this just looks like you trying to look busy by doing silly things, servers are still full of near 1k twinks near town Gatekeeps on Naia for this event, still 3-5 ADENA selling spam chars in each town abusing shout and setting shop with web URL. If you dont want to deal with this, give me the access to wipe out bots not on true clients and the adena spammers, i will do it no problem.
DEAR NAIA PLAYERS, to keep the seige to the CURRRENT GOOD time we have now, VOTE for seige to be 16:00 HOURS on TIMEZONE GMT +1, Thank you.
+1
Naia is a EU server, they have more people because we are more EU players, one server only for to much people.
Why thiss poll now? There is more server with another time zone, keep it into EU time (GTM +1) Naia.
If NCSoft change, where can play the EU players? :(
I've played as a UK player on NA servers since way back when there wasn't an EU server. While I accept that many Americans who enjoy things as they are will be ****** at possible changes I love the idea of the poll. Chronos is a mix of all the old servers and if you check the server graphs there isn't much of a spike in American times, it's pretty even.
At the end of the day, like it or hate it, the polls will speak for themselves. If more people vote for earlier times than vote for the same it shows more people play at those times no matter how many of the minority QQ.
I play on Chronos because it is and always has been called an NA server by NCsoft. If I wanted to play on Euro times I'd have joined Naia. What are you doing, NC? That many Eurpean players like playing with the Americans is nice and all, but that shouldn't dictate changing server times. Particularly when many players have relied on your represenations that Chronos is an NA server. And while I'm thinking about it... didn't you promise the players on Naia that they would remain a European server when Goddess launched? Frankly, I find your behavior amazingly strange and schizophrenic. :/
As an aside, i'm less concerned about polls as I am with NC selling a product, defining it on one fashion, and then pulling the rug out form under players who rely on those representations. If it's not false representation, isn't it, at least, bad form? Shame, shame, NC.
Finally, I'm not sure I understand how to vote. What do I select in the dropdown menu for a time zone? My current time zone? After I click vote, I then select... what? As I slide my mouse over the graph from 1-24, it appears if if I have to select a range? What am I selecting with this option? My head now hurts.
At the end of the day, like it or hate it, the polls will speak for themselves. If more people vote for earlier times than vote for the same it shows more people play at those times no matter how many of the minority QQ.
This. No matter how the vote will turn out, the majority of people who care enough to vote will have decided (and I honestly think that even if you look at "old time" players Chronos right now HAS more euro players than US ones).
Oh, and the time which currently leads is not all that bad for US players, I think. Late siege will be at the time of the current early siege, so one siege slot will stay exactly the same.
Finally, I'm not sure I understand how to vote. What do I select in the dropdown menu for a time zone? My current time zone? After I click vote, I then select... what? As I slide my mouse over the graph from 1-24, it appears if if I have to select a range? What am I selecting with this option? My head now hurts.
You select your own time zone from the pulldown menu, then you click on the time when you want the early siege to start. It just shows you when the early siege and the late siege (2h each) would be at that selection.
Half the veterans did NOT have the option of a EURO-based server back then in c1-c2-c3-c4.
Quit qqing and just vote.
Seems you need to learn the History of L2 NA before talking on the boards, i joined in C2 and the Teon EURO server was were i went, and full clans was already 70+, not sure when it went live, but it was atleast in C1, so GJ on your fail History quoting.
for those that dont know, Teon was in the end 1 of 3 euro servers, that got merged to become Naia.
Sorry the question Sace,but why did you include on pool Naia?
As other players have remarked in this thread so far, the majority population of each server will speak for itself. If there is a majority EU population on Naia (there is) then the poll should prove to keep Naia in an EU timezone. The same goes for the other servers.
PS: So, this is all that is needed to be said about NCWest and their promise before moving Naia to US loc.
"Naia will remain EU timezone".....
Seriously, now you start a poll to change the timezone....
Soo many ppl said you will change the timezone and your answer was no, it will stay as it is.....
Betrayal has reached a new lvl. How shall we belive any of your words anymore?
(PTS, ye we will have a PTS before GoD :mad:)
Indeed, many of us were shocked at this decision to include Chronos and Naia in the poll. After intense discussion however, the decision moved forward. This change was unexpected and unprecedented, as others have been in the past few months (including the lack of PTS). I am sorry that we could not have known these things would happen much sooner, and that is something we are working on fixing for the future. Since we have re-launched as Truly Free, our player base has greatly evolved, and it is a positive thing for the majorities to have a strong say in server times. Veteran players are a part of the majorities, too.
Finally, I'm not sure I understand how to vote. What do I select in the dropdown menu for a time zone? My current time zone? After I click vote, I then select... what? As I slide my mouse over the graph from 1-24, it appears if if I have to select a range? What am I selecting with this option? My head now hurts.
Come on, where are all the BR's when you need them. Don't be confused guys, you are not EU time zones :P
KK just to point out, as it is standing, all servers currently in the running between 25-50% for EU time zones on NA servers, thats just so totally frickin off.
Is Ncwest really ready to turn over on their original clients just because now they are more overrun with EU players?
Sorry as I see this they should just put a ban on the EU IP's let them go find homes/transfer over to the f2p EU servers and let Na have their official servers.
~~~ To the EU's I never had a problem playing with yous and in fact love plenty of you, but when some of you start demanding rights that were actually never yours and now the rest of us have to bend, my true question now comes down, why are you not playing on your own f2p servers?? This does not go out to the players who originally played here, but to the zerg of players who came after it went f2p.!!!
Next question, whats going to happen if they all end up with EU time zones? Will you make a NA time zone server for us ppl who wish to play on NA, like you have done in the past for EU ?
As other players have remarked in this thread so far, the majority population of each server will speak for itself. If there is a majority EU population on Naia (there is) then the poll should prove to keep Naia in an EU timezone. The same goes for the other servers.
Indeed, many of us were shocked at this decision to include Chronos and Naia in the poll. After intense discussion however, the decision moved forward. This change was unexpected and unprecedented, as others have been in the past few months (including the lack of PTS). I am sorry that we could not have known these things would happen much sooner, and that is something we are working on fixing for the future. Since we have re-launched as Truly Free, our player base has greatly evolved, and it is a positive thing for the majorities to have a strong say in server times. Veteran players are a part of the majorities, too.
Varaya has answered your question correctly. :)
I hope that these influx of new players bring the revenue streams to maintane your jobs. I can promise a majority of your player base on Chronos who has been here since before Free2play supporting NCWEST will quit before waking up in the middle of the night to seige or forgoe thier time with thier families in the middle of the day on a Sunday....
I also hope in your "intense" discussions you mentioned how MAYBE YOU SHOULD FIX wHATS BROken beFORE BREAKInG MORE...........
Come on, where are all the BR's when you need them. Don't be confused guys, you are not EU time zones :P
KK just to point out, as it is standing, all servers currently in the running between 25-50% for EU time zones on NA servers, thats just so totally frickin off.
Is Ncwest really ready to turn over on their original clients just because now they are more overrun with EU players?
Sorry as I see this they should just put a ban on the EU IP's let them go find homes/transfer over to the f2p EU servers and let Na have their official servers.
~~~ To the EU's I never had a problem playing with yous and in fact love plenty of you, but when some of you start demanding rights that were actually never yours and now the rest of us have to bend, my true question now comes down, why are you not playing on your own f2p servers?? This does not go out to the players who originally played here, but to the zerg of players who came after it went f2p.!!!
Next question, whats going to happen if they all end up with EU time zones? Will you make a NA time zone server for us ppl who wish to play on NA, like you have done in the past for EU ?
you realize it's still not even 2pm east coast right? People are at work/school/whatever it is they do during the day, not at home reading forums. People voting now are in Europe where it's early evening.
At the very least my 7 year old character's account's vote should count for more than a free account created an hour ago that someone leveled a character to only level 20.
Just promise me that every single server is not going to be euro time, and that myself and my clan members can transfer. Right now they are all favoring euro in the poll...
I like the GoD changes but.this is a little too.much change. Europeans may be willing to get up early for sieges and such, but NA won't. I give it a month with the new server times before NC gives us at least one server that is set at the times we've played with for 7 years.
The old adage "if it ain't broke don't fix it" comes to mind...
you realize it's still not even 2pm east coast right? People are at work/school/whatever it is they do during the day, not at home reading forums. People voting now are in Europe where it's early evening.
Thing is Slave brings up a good point if they do become EU timezones what exactly is going to happen to NA timezones they gonna give us a server or what?
Come on, where are all the BR's when you need them. Don't be confused guys, you are not EU time zones :P
KK just to point out, as it is standing, all servers currently in the running between 25-50% for EU time zones on NA servers, thats just so totally frickin off.
Is Ncwest really ready to turn over on their original clients just because now they are more overrun with EU players?
Sorry as I see this they should just put a ban on the EU IP's let them go find homes/transfer over to the f2p EU servers and let Na have their official servers.
~~~ To the EU's I never had a problem playing with yous and in fact love plenty of you, but when some of you start demanding rights that were actually never yours and now the rest of us have to bend, my true question now comes down, why are you not playing on your own f2p servers?? This does not go out to the players who originally played here, but to the zerg of players who came after it went f2p.!!!
Next question, whats going to happen if they all end up with EU time zones? Will you make a NA time zone server for us ppl who wish to play on NA, like you have done in the past for EU ?
you should stop talkingm NC West was home to MANY EU players over USA players, before it was F2P and before innova joke got EU contract, if innova wasnt such a joke, and players could transfer to innova, then many would of done, that fact that innova is a joke and u cant transfer anyway, just shows IP ban on EU would be fail idea
At the very least my 7 year old character's account's vote should count for more than a free account created an hour ago that someone leveled a character to only level 20.
Just promise me that every single server is not going to be euro time, and that myself and my clan members can transfer. Right now they are all favoring euro in the poll...
I like the GoD changes but.this is a little too.much change. Europeans may be willing to get up early for sieges and such, but NA won't. I give it a month with the new server times before NC gives us at least one server that is set at the times we've played with for 7 years.
The old adage "if it ain't broke don't fix it" comes to mind...
i play Naia in EU zome, but +1 to this, chrono/naia work fine without GM's need to play with stuff, just do weekly maintance, and stop touch these 2 servers, we the Players do not wont GM's messing with settings that ruin our game play.
So after 7 and a half years of this game it looks like NA players are being forced out of Lineage 2. Oh that's right we can transfer to Magmeld guys. Don't worry about the level 11 clans and tons of gear, augments, clan halls, clan skills you'll lose. It's free!
Oh wait, the vote looks like Magmeld is going Euro too. Tough luck. These level 20 toons, that aren't able to participate in sieges anyway, have spoken.
When it was possible to choose to play on an NA or a Euro server, we chose NA. When it was possible to transfer to a Euro server or or stay on an NA server, I chose NA.
Sace, you say this decision was a surprise to you as well. To who do I address the letter of complaint to that thanks them for taking away our power of choice?
As other players have remarked in this thread so far, the majority population of each server will speak for itself. If there is a majority EU population on Naia (there is) then the poll should prove to keep Naia in an EU timezone. The same goes for the other servers.
This is ridiculous, it just goes to show the incompetence and mismanagement NCsoft West. Innova was made for Euros, but it fails even more than you do. Any other company would have just made US and Euro servers, if there happened to be more Euro players, then that would just mean there would be more Euro servers. Instead, you screwed up the launch of GoD, and now we have several mixed servers that might have 2/3 Euro and 1/3 NA timezone, so what does this mean? Anyone who picked the "wrong" server at launch because you messed up is now screwed, you could have just made say Magmeld and Bartz Euro servers, and Shilen a NA server, then all people would be happy. This is a stupid accommodation made because of your screwing up on the launch of this client.
Here's a thought, since the servers are mixed, why don't you just give a large window, say 12 hours and let the clan that owns choose the siege time, since it's you know...THEIR castle.
ur by far the dumbest ****** i have seen on this board
who gives a flying **** about chronos when all euro's are on naia and its the only EURO server out there
why would u give a flying **** when all the other servers are NA servers
euro's are the one who get ****** over by chance to get server turned into epic fail siege/oly etc times
on the other hand i do not understand why naia/chronos are on the vote list these servers are around since the start (yes i dont look at merges) people play on chronos/naia because it suits their time
we dont need a **** vote we had 7 years to choose if u made mistake u had 7 years to switch servers *** this dumb vote system
I really dont know why you decided to flame me when you just repeated most of what i said anyway, and i am the dumbest LOL
So after 7 and a half years of this game it looks like NA players are being forced out of Lineage 2. Oh that's right we can transfer to Magmeld guys. Don't worry about the level 11 clans and tons of gear, augments, clan halls, clan skills you'll lose. It's free!
Oh wait, the vote looks like Magmeld is going Euro too. Tough luck. These level 20 toons, that aren't able to participate in sieges anyway, have spoken.
When it was possible to choose to play on an NA or a Euro server, we chose NA. When it was possible to transfer to a Euro server or or stay on an NA server, I chose NA.
Sace, you say this decision was a surprise to you as well. To who do I address the letter of complaint to that thanks them for taking away our power of choice?
Ya when the community manager who is suppose to be our conduit is surprised that shows how little they really care..... I am sure you are loving your job these days Sace...
Seems you need to learn the History of L2 NA before talking on the boards,
im an euro player and started in prelude on erica .. and i dont wanted to start all over again when teon was introduced a year later, and many of the ppl i know didnt wanted to start again too, so the OP is basicaly right.
Seems you need to learn the History of L2 NA before talking on the boards, i joined in C2 and the Teon EURO server was were i went, and full clans was already 70+, not sure when it went live, but it was atleast in C1, so GJ on your fail History quoting.
for those that dont know, Teon was in the end 1 of 3 euro servers, that got merged to become Naia.
Honestly i dont remember although i play since c2. All i remember is that many euro-people were chosing Devianne and Lionna. So maybe i am mistaken. So i dunno if Teon existed back in 2004-2005 but for sure it existed in 2006.
To sum up. I dont like EU event times. I like NA event times if they become 2-3hours earlier.
It doesnt matter what and me think as individuals when the majority can speak by itself. If NA ppl are so many and care...they can vote and change the result.
Greeks-Russians-Italians-Spanish had to stand... tw at ~3am/5am and 2nd sieges at the same time. What americans will have to afford if the time on Chronos change? Wake up at like 11:30 am?
This is ridiculous, Anyone who picked the "wrong" server at launch because you messed up is now screwed, you could have just made say Magmeld and Bartz Euro servers, and Shilen a NA server, then all people would be happy.
I agree, we have 5 servers, if there are more EU than NA,
then just make 3 of them EU servers & 2 NA Servers.
or add a new server & have 3 EU, 3 NA Servers.
But then you would also have to offer FREE FULL ACCOUNT TRANSFERS
to any of the servers...........everything gets transferred just like a forced
server merge would be.
This would affect more then Castle Seiges. Our clan hall is a seigeable one on Chronos. My whole clan would be at work when it was due to seige on Fridays. I would miss half the Oly times. The more I think I about this the more ****** it makes me.
so as far as i can click, it shows me that pretty much all servers are going Euro...lol... wonder how Innova doing in Europe... hehe
NCsoft is just completely useless, it seems this way, that's not to say there aren't NA players, it's just that NCsoft screwed up the launch and didn't make a clear distinction between US or Euro servers, so all of the servers are a mix of both. If they had any kind of sense they could have just made 2 new Euro servers, and 1 new NA server and everything would be settled.
Oh but it's cool, NCsoft gave us Bartz, without transfers after we had already spent weeks grinding to 85+, bought clan halls, owned castles, got noblesse, etc...And not to mention when Bartz was launched, there was no indication that Shilen or Magmeld would be changed off of NA times.
GG NCsoft, useless as usual, it looks like your string of incompetence from NCsoft Austin with L2, Tabula Rasa, Auto Assault, Exteel, etc...is continuing, it's a wonder how you still exist with this kind of management of your games, you must still be living off those Guild Wars publisher funds.
To all the Euros that don't like our complaining, please understand the reason we're complaining isn't because there are more Euros, it's only fair that if there are more Euros, the siege time should accommodate them, it's that us NA players started playing on the assumption that the server was North American, but NCsoft didn't define any NA servers, so now NA players are spread out among 3 servers that seem to be a majority of Euro players, and now we're completely screwed over, where if NCsoft had any common sense at the launch and just made a NA and Euro server, none of this would have happened.
I've been grinding for a month on what I thought was a US server (Shilen) with my entire clan, but now (based on the votes so far) I find out that I won't be able to siege, can't do my siegable CH, and will miss 75% of olympiad time. What am I supposed to do?
As you know, for the first time ever, players voted on the Castle Siege time for a new server, Bartz. Because of Lineage II's ever-growing global population, we now extend the vote to all other servers, but with additional effects. Cast your vote and help decide on your main server's server-time!
What Does this Poll Decide?
This poll asks you what time you want Castle Sieges to occur on your main server (what time is convenient for you), and the winning time will affect the server's entire time zone setting. All scheduled events on a server follow a synchronized calendar. By changing the Castle Siege time, the rest of the timers on the server, such as Territory Wars and daily quest reset times, are changed to match the new schedule.
Chronos and Shilen: Next Castle Sieges are on January 15, 2012.
Naia and Magmeld: Next Castle Sieges are on January 22, 2012.
Who Can Vote and When?
The Siege Times Poll is open for voting for two weeks, from 7pm on January 12 to 7pm on January 26, 2012 (PST).
Each game account may vote only once in the poll, not once per server. Therefore, be certain to vote on your main server only. To be eligible to vote, you must have a character that is level 20 or higher on the server you wish to vote for.
Players that previously voted in the Bartz Poll may also vote in this poll.
NCsoft is just completely useless, it seems this way, that's not to say there aren't NA players, it's just that NCsoft screwed up the launch and didn't make a clear distinction between US or Euro servers, so all of the servers are a mix of both. If they had any kind of sense they could have just made 2 new Euro servers, and 1 new NA server and everything would be settled.
Oh but it's cool, NCsoft gave us Bartz, without transfers after we had already spent weeks grinding to 85+, bought clan halls, owned castles, got noblesse, etc...And not to mention when Bartz was launched, there was no indication that Shilen or Magmeld would be changed off of NA times.
GG NCsoft, useless as usual, it looks like your string of incompetence from NCsoft Austin with L2, Tabula Rasa, Auto Assault, Exteel, etc...is continuing, it's a wonder how you still exist with this kind of management of your games, you must still be living off those Guild Wars publisher funds.
To all the Euros that don't like our complaining, please understand the reason we're complaining isn't because there are more Euros, it's only fair that if there are more Euros, the siege time should accommodate them, it's that us NA players started playing on the assumption that the server was North American, but NCsoft didn't define any NA servers, so now NA players are spread out among 3 servers that seem to be a majority of Euro players, and now we're completely screwed over, where if NCsoft had any common sense at the launch and just made a NA and Euro server, none of this would have happened.
I've been grinding for a month on what I thought was a US server (Shilen) with my entire clan, but now (based on the votes so far) I find out that I won't be able to siege, can't do my siegable CH, and will miss 75% of olympiad time. What am I supposed to do?
i will agree with you on everything...
plus if they make it EU server... it means ther will be more b...ooooo....ting, doubt that gm would want to stay all night and do anything if they ever do lol....)) personally i know many russians who play this game from Moscow...and arounds... and they dont mind waking up at 6am to defend the castles...or stay up all night on saturday to pwn on TWs fields...if NA servers will become EU it will be even better for EU to take over the game...now maybe couple of NA rule somewhere in game, but after it will be all EU...for me as i said somewhere on these forums, it might be a bigger plus, since more EU will be on... and maybe finally ill be able to party up with most of my friends... but big picture... playing 6+ years on NA server with NA timezone... as someone said building life around this timezone... will ruin everything now...
i will agree with you on everything...
plus if they make it EU server... it means ther will be more b...ooooo....ting, doubt that gm would want to stay all night and do anything if they ever do lol....)) personally i know many russians who play this game from Moscow...and arounds... and they dont mind waking up at 6am to defend the castles...or stay up all night on saturday to pwn on TWs fields...if NA servers will become EU it will be even better for EU to take over the game...now maybe couple of NA rule somewhere in game, but after it will be all EU...for me as i said somewhere on these forums, it might be a bigger plus, since more EU will be on... and maybe finally ill be able to party up with most of my friends... but big picture... playing 6+ years on NA server with NA timezone... as someone said building life around this timezone... will ruin everything now...
Yes that's the thing too, because Euro are ahead of NA, it means they have to stay up late, but it means people in NA would have to miss work or school. Not that we should have to do either, if NCsoft had any common sense when launching GoD, none of this would have happened.
NCSoft should take in mind too theres a LOT of southamerican players here, perhaps even more than euros, and they dont even vote, and just check the votes isnt even 500 votes...bring everybody from the server to vote and youll perhaps see europeans arent the majority.
So why screw one side for benefit another? cant you simple fix it so both sides wins too?
or cant you just be normal from the start and define one NA and one EU server? nooo... you had to sell to innova...
This is just made my whole week. This is fantastic for us, euro players, who didnt gave a f... for innova s...rs. They just failed hard for me and as i can see for many other ppls.
This is just made my whole week. This is fantastic for us, euro players, who didnt gave a f... for innova s...rs. They just failed hard for me and as i can see for many other ppls.
Cause that makes sense, every server becomes EU timezones but NA gets nothing... So characters people have had many years they cant use due to school/work/social life for seiges.
Look, I don't think that if the voting keeps on like this, and all servers should
switch timezone to GMT, it will actually happen.
I mean that they're not totally that absurd, to have 5 EU servers. So I think
that Chronos is safe no matter what the poll will show at the end.
So eventually Chronos will keep NA timezone... Just my 2 cents.
Look, I don't think that if the voting keeps on like this, and all servers should
switch timezone to GMT, it will actually happen.
I mean that they're not totally that absurd, to have 5 EU servers. So I think
that Chronos is safe no matter what the poll will show at the end.
So eventually Chronos will keep NA timezone... Just my 2 cents.
I think you vastly over estimate the collective intelligence at NCWest.
Look, I don't think that if the voting keeps on like this, and all servers should
switch timezone to GMT, it will actually happen.
I mean that they're not totally that absurd, to have 5 EU servers. So I think
that Chronos is safe no matter what the poll will show at the end.
So eventually Chronos will keep NA timezone... Just my 2 cents.
at least it will show ncfail what a stupid idea it was to pull their servers out of europe...
i for one would love a proper ping again without going to innova
I'm missing something, if we go say 4 hours earlier for sieges on chronos that means the Euro clannies make it to both sieges and US clannies just get up a little earlier for the first siege. I guess since i'm off weekends that doesn't seem like a bad thing to me. Not sure why its horrible to so many posters here. Is it that bad to get up a little earlier? Or does it mean that the time is getting pushed forward, so instead of 4pm CST for first siege its 8PM CST for first siege? Seems i must be "time iliterate" because i'm really not following the train of thought here.
OK, i've talked to clannies in vent and my first thought was correct. This change will only mean NA gets up a little early and EU get to sieges at a reasonable time. Works for me, not sure why its not working for some many others.
I'm missing something, if we go say 4 hours earlier for sieges on chronos that means the Euro clannies make it to both sieges and US clannies just get up a little earlier for the first siege. I guess since i'm off weekends that doesn't seem like a bad thing to me. Not sure why its horrible to so many posters here. Is it that bad to get up a little earlier?
I'm missing something, if we go say 4 hours earlier for sieges on chronos that means the Euro clannies make it to both sieges and US clannies just get up a little earlier for the first siege. I guess since i'm off weekends that doesn't seem like a bad thing to me. Not sure why its horrible to so many posters here. Is it that bad to get up a little earlier?
You are right man. I will tell work on fridays i cant work because i have to be home for the clan hall seige. I will also tell my church that L2 is above god so I will no longer be attending after all my first seige is the same time as service. I will tell my kids daddy loves you but just not as much as L2 so instead of spending the day with you I will be on doing seiging.
If you really cant get the impact you either A have no life or B are simply retarted.....
You are right man. I will tell work on fridays i cant work because i have to be home for the clan hall seige. I will also tell my church that L2 is above god so I will no longer be attending after all my first seige is the same time as service. I will tell my kids daddy loves you but just not as much as L2 so instead of spending the day with you I will be on doing seiging.
If you really cant get the impact you either A have no life or B are simply retarted.....
Fridays is just 1 day of oly, sure you can miss that?
As for sunday I'm sure the amount of people who have commitments on a weekend is small compared to the ones who don't. Can't you go to a different mass? The fact is if there's more people willing to vote for one time it's a more popular time!
It's been fine until now for EU players to have to stay up till 4/6am every night and every other weekend to do things that only came into the game later during it's life cycle (Daily Oly/TW/Manor, not just sieges).
I'm amazed at the amount of americans who are extremely anti-democracy.
You are right man. I will tell work on fridays i cant work because i have to be home for the clan hall seige. I will also tell my church that L2 is above god so I will no longer be attending after all my first seige is the same time as service. I will tell my kids daddy loves you but just not as much as L2 so instead of spending the day with you I will be on doing seiging.
If you really cant get the impact you either A have no life or B are simply retarted.....
Omg... if god is going to be mad...then ok guys, leave servers as they are :p
Seriously now.... I wont cry if servers stay as they are atm... I just want the sieges to be at more normal time.
I anyways didnt login when i wanted to have a drink, wake up early or w/e else... so if server change time, you will have to do the same! (Its easier for the minority to make adjustments than the majority...and dont forget its only for each 2 weeks!!! + olys ok every weekend)
You are right man. I will tell work on fridays i cant work because i have to be home for the clan hall seige. I will also tell my church that L2 is above god so I will no longer be attending after all my first seige is the same time as service. I will tell my kids daddy loves you but just not as much as L2 so instead of spending the day with you I will be on doing seiging.
If you really cant get the impact you either A have no life or B are simply retarted.....
Fridays is just 1 day of oly, sure you can miss that?
As for sunday I'm sure the amount of people who have commitments on a weekend is small compared to the ones who don't. Can't you go to a different mass?
I started response to your idiocy about but why its not worth it. No matter what we post here NCWest is going to do what ever the hell they want. They are pulling out thier E-Weenies and peeing all over the old Chronos player base.
You are right man. I will tell work on fridays i cant work because i have to be home for the clan hall seige. I will also tell my church that L2 is above god so I will no longer be attending after all my first seige is the same time as service. I will tell my kids daddy loves you but just not as much as L2 so instead of spending the day with you I will be on doing seiging.
If you really cant get the impact you either A have no life or B are simply retarted.....
I started response to your idiocy about but why its not worth it. No matter what we post here NCWest is going to do what ever the hell they want. They are pulling out thier E-Weenies and peeing all over the old Chronos player base.
Can you prove that is the old players that get ''offended'' of the current result?
Btw...i can say 10% is not a bad sample at all... In real life 10% for anything is a huge sample....and atm 85% of the voters want changes.
On the other hand i would say the most fair will be an average of the votes and not the winning one to be applied.
I started response to your idiocy about but why its not worth it. No matter what we post here NCWest is going to do what ever the hell they want. They are pulling out thier E-Weenies and peeing all over the old Chronos player base.
Errm, a MASSIVE portion of the remaining old school Chronos player base are EU, including the 100s of players on the server that I've known or recognise since C2 and onwards. If it were only Americans then explain how the activity graphs on sieges has always dropped significantly for the second siege, 2-3am EU time, it's been like that for years.
lol...as soon as these servers change to EU timezone and most NA players will be with their families/church/sleeping...EU players will complain about how come no one shows up at the siege except our EU clan?? where are all NA players? game is sooooo dead now! lol
but as said before, yes there are many NA players who dont work on fridays/saturday/sundays or spend time with their family or go to church or have real life
so i guess those guys will be defending or wait dropping clan and joining EU clans just because all servers are owned by EUs :P
i think ill join EU clan :P since they will have more online then NA
and yes most of you are right ))) my friendlist consist of 120 ppl and only 20 of them are NA :P
Why would you change the server timezone of an already established US server? There are plenty of new servers for you to cater to. Remove this joke of a poll and just have the new players transfer to the new servers.
The server is in TX. Why not just keep it in our timezone and offer free or cheap account transfers to the European servers? I prefer the people in my siege party not to lag or disconnect. I love the chaos this is causing but come on.
As other players have remarked in this thread so far, the majority population of each server will speak for itself. If there is a majority EU population on Naia (there is) then the poll should prove to keep Naia in an EU timezone. The same goes for the other servers.
Indeed, many of us were shocked at this decision to include Chronos and Naia in the poll. After intense discussion however, the decision moved forward. This change was unexpected and unprecedented, as others have been in the past few months (including the lack of PTS). I am sorry that we could not have known these things would happen much sooner, and that is something we are working on fixing for the future. Since we have re-launched as Truly Free, our player base has greatly evolved, and it is a positive thing for the majorities to have a strong say in server times. Veteran players are a part of the majorities, too.
Varaya has answered your question correctly. :)
So if every single poll turn out to favor EU times you will not be supporting any NA time based server anymore?
And the way you vote in the poll sucks, its unclear and just bad in every way. If you are going to base, as you put it, such a shocking decision on a poll at least make it work good...
What does it even mean when one choice is orange as opposed to yellow?
I do have 1 serious question im not sure has been answered so ill ask(and risk the flame gods lol)
sace can we maybe run some login announcements about this vote so we can accurately give EVERYONE a chance to vote not just the main site and forum warriors of each server?
and yes maybe this is already happening as i havnt logged in for a while lol
what a perfect chance for all the servers to be changed to EUROTIME.
This is brilliant.
I cant wait for the results.
This game based in the USA can now be run and controlled by all the foreign to USA players.
NCWEST, prepare to lose all your jobs.
NCSOFT needs gm's from EURO/ASIAN timezones now
and dont worry, NCSOFT will be happy not to employ lazy American employees
all you bots/newbies to L2, vote away and be prepared to switch/hand this game over, because we all know Americans dont have time to read silly forums and vote on anything. Less than 10% even vote for our President. This is awesome.
I do have 1 serious question im not sure has been answered so ill ask(and risk the flame gods lol)
sace can we maybe run some login announcements about this vote so we can accurately give EVERYONE a chance to vote not just the main site and forum warriors of each server?
and yes maybe this is already happening as i havnt logged in for a while lol
Yup, they've put announcements about the transfers, but not about the polls yet.
I guess one more bit of in-game spam won't hurt :D
Out of Curiosity... Who in NcSoft makes these ******* decisions? Offer server transfers before you start changing server times, this is beyond stupid.
You bring ALL the servers back to the United States, and now you care about offering friendly times for our "Global" players? The irony in these decisions in astronomical.
I dont think it is actually. If more people are EU on either server, they should make them EU servers.. Anything that suits the playerbase. Anyway you still got your vote.
I dont think it is actually. If more people are EU on either server, they should make them EU servers.. Anything that suits the playerbase. Anyway you still got your vote.
if that was even remotely plausible as an excuse, NC would not have moved Naia away from europe, and wouldnt have sold Europe rights to Innova to begin with.
they'd have picked up from Austin and moved to Germany.
they knew there were more people playing in North America. Euros indignant over the Naia move now have an outlet to vent.
Indeed, many of us were shocked at this decision to include Chronos and Naia in the poll. After intense discussion however, the decision moved forward. This change was unexpected and unprecedented, as others have been in the past few months (including the lack of PTS). I am sorry that we could not have known these things would happen much sooner, and that is something we are working on fixing for the future. Since we have re-launched as Truly Free, our player base has greatly evolved, and it is a positive thing for the majorities to have a strong say in server times. Veteran players are a part of the majorities, too.
make sure to declare poll results ineffective if less than 50% of valid server accounts voted.
Im going to laugh my u know what off when all the west coast players have to wake up at 6am to do OLY. this is an amazing poll, a pure genius proposal by NCWEST.
NCSOFT is laughing so hard at you all right now, it was a no brainer to give the go-ahead on this.
on Chronos serer.
i work Sundays.
i barely get off work with enough time to make it to the second siege.
now they will both be while i work.
i am very upset by this.
half the reason i play the game is to make it to the castle sieges.
i'm not even sure i want to vote.
i looked it up, and the current time for sieges seems to fall into a 0 vote zone.
do people even know what they're voting for?
do i know what i'm voting for?
it seems that the GMT+/- is irrelevant.
it always seems to start at -8 for me.
but after selecting a time, you then select a siege time.
but for chronos it's looking like it will be in the middle of the day.
Please NcSoft.
if you are going to make a poll like this.
make one that makes sense, and is easy for people to understand.
just because i think i understand it, doesn't mean that i do, or that everyone else does.
Edit: added content.
IF you wish to make the sieges later? i wouldn't mind.
i stay up all night already anyway...
++ sieges GMT-6 8pm and 12am. this, i could live with.
from NutMonkey. You are right man. I will tell work on fridays i cant work because i have to be home for the clan hall seige. I will also tell my church that L2 is above god so I will no longer be attending after all my first seige is the same time as service. I will tell my kids daddy loves you but just not as much as L2 so instead of spending the day with you I will be on doing seiging.
So i take it everytime other then the current time is wrong for you? So forget all the peeps that it works for, all the clannies that can now make the sieges, all the allies that can help? As long as it stays perfect for you, then thats the way it should be? its 2 weekends out of the month, 6 days were u have to give a few hours of your time for the clan/ally. But it doesn't work for you, so it shouldn't be changed for the benefit of the many? Think maybe you're playing the wrong game. They have single player games in XBox and WII and PS3. You might wanna look into that. Just say'n.
You are right man. I will tell work on fridays i cant work because i have to be home for the clan hall seige. I will also tell my church that L2 is above god so I will no longer be attending after all my first seige is the same time as service. I will tell my kids daddy loves you but just not as much as L2 so instead of spending the day with you I will be on doing seiging.
So i take it everytime other then the current time is wrong for you? So forget all the peeps that it works for, all the clannies that can now make the sieges, all the allies that can help? As long as it stays perfect for you, then thats the way it should be? its 2 weekends out of the month, 6 days were u have to give a few hours of your time for the clan/ally. But it doesn't work for you, so it shouldn't be changed for the benefit of the many? Think maybe you're playing the wrong game. They have single player games in XBox and WII and PS3. You might wanna look into that. Just say'n.
NCsoft is screwing one group over in favour of another (one that they call a majority), the problem is that they could satisfy both groups.
They failed at launching GoD, Innova failed so what they ended up with is several servers mixed between NA and EU players, the majority being Euro, what they need to do is make US servers and Euro servers, just have more Euro servers than NA.
This didn't happen at launch, all servers were US, so players mixed between them, so now maybe 25-35% of the population is getting screwed over by this time change. Please understand Euros that we aren't upset you're playing here and that you want sieges in Euro timezone it's only fair that you get that, but see our side for a moment, we're upset at NCsofts usual incompetence, they are trying to please the majority, when they could very well please EVERYONE if they had the slightest amount of common sense. We're going to end up with 5 servers all with Euro timezone, when 1/3 of the people playing are US, they need to make say 2 of the servers US and 3 Euro, and everyone would be happy, but something simple like this seems to be above the minds that run game after game out of NCsoft Austin/West into the ground.
NCsoft is screwing one group over in favour of another (one that they call a majority), the problem is that they could satisfy both groups.
They failed at launching GoD, Innova failed so what they ended up with is several servers mixed between NA and EU players, the majority being Euro, what they need to do is make US servers and Euro servers, just have more Euro servers than NA.
This didn't happen at launch, all servers were US, so players mixed between them, so now maybe 25-35% of the population is getting screwed over by this time change. Please understand Euros that we aren't upset you're playing here and that you want sieges in Euro timezone it's only fair that you get that, but see our side for a moment, we're upset at NCsofts usual incompetence, they are trying to please the majority, when they could very well please EVERYONE if they had the slightest amount of common sense. We're going to end up with 5 servers all with Euro timezone, when 1/3 of the people playing are US, they need to make say 2 of the servers US and 3 Euro, and everyone would be happy, but something simple like this seems to be above the minds that run game after game out of NCsoft Austin/West into the ground.
You know, you said it all right there, thank you !!!!
I have been pretty ****** with the whole situation and just couldn't get the right words out to say it all, but here you are, speaking my mind !!!
how many times have we euro's who play on naia before f2p
have been screaming that we want a new EU server cus naia is gettin over ****** full
some of u US guys lol'd at us made fun out of these guys who tried to make bartz into euro(cus omygawd bartz was a NA server in the past and it must remain WHO THE **** CARES WHAT BARTZ WAS IN THE PAST!) tried to make shilen into euro tried to make magmald into euro
all of it failed all of them got launched as NA server
im not saying i support ncsoft with this stupid idea of changin server times on 2 OLD servers but some of them chronos guys got kicked in the *** for being such a ****** when new servers popped up
no euro with lil bit brain wants to play on innova because they scan every single thing on your computer i dont give a **** if they do so but they dig me to deep into private stuff so reason for me and many other euro's to rather have high ping then go innova
ncsoft never listens its so simple
bartz/shilen/magmald get new poll ingame (it cant be hard to code some npc and let people vote each account) lock down char creation on these servers for a week
vote away do what votes said
IF na or euro's still have these overfull crap servers then you just add a EU server or a NA server its that freaking simple, i do not understand why ncsoft always takes the worst possible path u could choose
top of that they never explain them self like
well guys we cant open a "offical" euro server because we sold rights, and we are not allowed to promote a euro server except naia.
that would atleast clear up things
then again take naia and chronos off this stupid list all u do is **** over people who paid to play this game and had choice to go w/e time zone server they want now u give the choice to bunch of 12 years old kids to **** over people who meight have been paying YOU (ncsoft) for 7 years every single month
start using some common sense
NCsoft is screwing one group over in favour of another (one that they call a majority), the problem is that they could satisfy both groups.
They failed at launching GoD, Innova failed so what they ended up with is several servers mixed between NA and EU players, the majority being Euro, what they need to do is make US servers and Euro servers, just have more Euro servers than NA.
This didn't happen at launch, all servers were US, so players mixed between them, so now maybe 25-35% of the population is getting screwed over by this time change. Please understand Euros that we aren't upset you're playing here and that you want sieges in Euro timezone it's only fair that you get that, but see our side for a moment, we're upset at NCsofts usual incompetence, they are trying to please the majority, when they could very well please EVERYONE if they had the slightest amount of common sense. We're going to end up with 5 servers all with Euro timezone, when 1/3 of the people playing are US, they need to make say 2 of the servers US and 3 Euro, and everyone would be happy, but something simple like this seems to be above the minds that run game after game out of NCsoft Austin/West into the ground.
Go check votes on REAL euro server and on chronos and u will realise that we (us who want some change) dont want euro times...but just a bit earlier NA times.
I would love to have sieges at 5 in the evening instead of midnight the earlier but i voted for 20:00 to fit the east coast and central NAs...
All the voting is pushing all the servers towards Euro times, where will any of the NA players play?
Please remove Chronus from the list, it has always been an a NA server your allowing transfers to another server that will be Euro times now, so please do not kill the NA population. I choose a NA server from the begining, if I wanted to go to a Euro server I would of.
We are trying to vote to keep our times but I hate to see less then 20% of the population of a server voting to change the times for 80% of it.
how many times have we euro's who play on naia before f2p
have been screaming that we want a new EU server cus naia is gettin over ****** full
some of u US guys lol'd at us made fun out of these guys who tried to make bartz into euro(cus omygawd bartz was a NA server in the past and it must remain WHO THE **** CARES WHAT BARTZ WAS IN THE PAST!) tried to make shilen into euro tried to make magmald into euro
all of it failed all of them got launched as NA server
im not saying i support ncsoft with this stupid idea of changin server times on 2 OLD servers but some of them chronos guys got kicked in the *** for being such a ****** when new servers popped up
no euro with lil bit brain wants to play on innova because they scan every single thing on your computer i dont give a **** if they do so but they dig me to deep into private stuff so reason for me and many other euro's to rather have high ping then go innova
ncsoft never listens its so simple
bartz/shilen/magmald get new poll ingame (it cant be hard to code some npc and let people vote each account) lock down char creation on these servers for a week
vote away do what votes said
IF na or euro's still have these overfull crap servers then you just add a EU server or a NA server its that freaking simple, i do not understand why ncsoft always takes the worst possible path u could choose
top of that they never explain them self like
well guys we cant open a "offical" euro server because we sold rights, and we are not allowed to promote a euro server except naia.
that would atleast clear up things
then again take naia and chronos off this stupid list all u do is **** over people who paid to play this game and had choice to go w/e time zone server they want now u give the choice to bunch of 12 years old kids to **** over people who meight have been paying YOU (ncsoft) for 7 years every single month
start using some common sense
Wow NcWest, You never cease to amaze me. This is by far the worst thing you've ever done. It's pretty simple really.
Chronos server is comprised of all the previous NA servers, therefore a majority of the players are from...? North America! Naia server? That is made up of all of the previous EU servers. These two servers should have been left alone. One is obviously NA based and the other EU based. Just look at the poll for Naia; hmm 9:00am CST, yep looks like a euro server to me! Yet here I see my NA server being pushed back 4 hours? For what? "Just transfer!" you say? Look at the other servers polls, oh gee more EU based times. You are screwing over North America, your home and original fan base!
Now I know some of you are going to say "Oh but euros play on Chronos too! The times are bad for us!" I don't care! It is not my problem that you chose to play on a North American time based server! You don't see people in the North or South American time zones flocking to EU servers aka Naia; do you? Yet, you all flood our servers because you can speak a little bit of english and you can't stand your own brethren! That's the excuse I hear the most. "EU players are stupid and immature" they would say. Their words not mine, that is not how I feel.
You people(Euros) don't even appreciate what NCWest does for you! You should be grateful you even have European servers let alone ones based in your time zone. When I started playing this game there were no european servers. Those came later. Yet you all take it for granted. Even before the launch of GoD you all spoke horribly about the company and about how as soon as 'Innovas' servers were open you were gone. Well? What happened? I still see the same old nay-saying-doom-cryers here! A bunch of punks is what you are!
TL;DR
End this ridiculous 'poll' for Chronos and Naia it is not necessary!:mad:
Wow NcWest, You never cease to amaze me. This is by far the worst thing you've ever done. It's pretty simple really.
Chronos server is comprised of all the previous NA servers, therefore a majority of the players are from...? North America! Naia server? That is made up of all of the previous EU servers. These two servers should have been left alone. One is obviously NA based and the other EU based. Just look at the poll for Naia; hmm 9:00am CST, yep looks like a euro server to me! Yet here I see my NA server being pushed back 4 hours? For what? "Just transfer!" you say? Look at the other servers polls, oh gee more EU based times. You are screwing over North America, your home and original fan base!
Now I know some of you are going to say "Oh but euros play on Chronos too! The times are bad for us!" I don't care! It is not my problem that you chose to play on a North American time based server! You don't see people in the North or South American time zones flocking to EU servers aka Naia; do you? Yet, you all flood our servers because you can speak a little bit of english and you can't stand your own brethren! That's the excuse I hear the most. "EU players are stupid and immature" they would say. Their words not mine, that is not how I feel.
You people(Euros) don't even appreciate what NCWest does for you! You should be grateful you even have European servers let alone ones based in your time zone. When I started playing this game there were no european servers. Those came later. Yet you all take it for granted. Even before the launch of GoD you all spoke horribly about the company and about how as soon as 'Innovas' servers were open you were gone. Well? What happened? I still see the same old nay-saying-doom-cryers here! A bunch of punks is what you are!
TL;DR
End this ridiculous 'poll' for Chronos and Naia it is not necessary!:mad:
lol your attitude.... You dont care?... Then NCsoft's decision is the greatest :) CAUSE WE CARE!
Wow NcWest, You never cease to amaze me. This is by far the worst thing you've ever done. It's pretty simple really.
Chronos server is comprised of all the previous NA servers, therefore a majority of the players are from...? North America! Naia server? That is made up of all of the previous EU servers. These two servers should have been left alone. One is obviously NA based and the other EU based. Just look at the poll for Naia; hmm 9:00am CST, yep looks like a euro server to me! Yet here I see my NA server being pushed back 4 hours? For what? "Just transfer!" you say? Look at the other servers polls, oh gee more EU based times. You are screwing over North America, your home and original fan base!
Now I know some of you are going to say "Oh but euros play on Chronos too! The times are bad for us!" I don't care! It is not my problem that you chose to play on a North American time based server! You don't see people in the North or South American time zones flocking to EU servers aka Naia; do you? Yet, you all flood our servers because you can speak a little bit of english and you can't stand your own brethren! That's the excuse I hear the most. "EU players are stupid and immature" they would say. Their words not mine, that is not how I feel.
You people(Euros) don't even appreciate what NCWest does for you! You should be grateful you even have European servers let alone ones based in your time zone. When I started playing this game there were no european servers. Those came later. Yet you all take it for granted. Even before the launch of GoD you all spoke horribly about the company and about how as soon as 'Innovas' servers were open you were gone. Well? What happened? I still see the same old nay-saying-doom-cryers here! A bunch of punks is what you are!
TL;DR
End this ridiculous 'poll' for Chronos and Naia it is not necessary!:mad:
Because of people like you I'm happy that they're going to screw NA times. So much hate toward Euros, thinking that NA is somehow better than us? Please... So much hate in your words. And blame NCSoft. Euros asked for their own new fresh server for how much time? 2months alrdy = nothing. Have you ever watched what Innova has? 2 server: 1 server = ~3k ppl on. 2nd server ~1k on. + No mentor system, Crap p2p (Premium account system where pay to win) ****** frost system which lags you out. and the best thing we have no staff there. So majority of Euros actually went to NCWest. AND if NC had a little bit more brains, they've could of made Euro time based server. There so we wouldn't need any ****** vote o ruin your servers. And now live with it. It's democracy. Majority wins, and no matter you like it or not.
lol your attitude.... You dont care?... Then NCsoft's decision is the greatest :) CAUSE WE CARE!
I can see that you struggle with reading comprehension. That's okay, I won't judge you. What that sentence stated was that I do not care that you made a poor decision when you chose which server to play on.
Next time please read the entire post or just skip to the TL;DR to avoid any more confusion.
Because of people like you I'm happy that they're going to screw NA times. So much hate toward Euros, thinking that NA is somehow better than us? Please... So much hate in your words. And blame NCSoft. Euros asked for their own new fresh server for how much time? 2months alrdy = nothing. Have you ever watched what Innova has? 2 server: 1 server = ~3k ppl on. 2nd server ~1k on. + No mentor system, Crap p2p (Premium account system where pay to win) ****** frost system which lags you out. and the best thing we have no staff there. So majority of Euros actually went to NCWest. AND if NC had a little bit more brains, they've could of made Euro time based server. There so we wouldn't need any ****** vote o ruin your servers. And now live with it. It's democracy. Majority wins, and no matter you like it or not.
I'm sorry? At what point did I say that I hated Europeans?
I started playing on phoenix(NA server) it merged into chronos(NA server) Why are you making it a euro server now? This makes no sense at all atleast make a server for us NA people you seem to be neglecting to transfer to
I can see that you struggle with reading comprehension. That's okay, I won't judge you. What that sentence stated was that I do not care that you made a poor decision when you chose which server to play on.
Back then... I liked it more...since i couldnt spend anytime during day and i could easier play at nights (although as i said... i remember that i chose NA server for other reason).
Now since there is the opportunity to vote, i would love to see server change closer to my standards and MAJORITY's standards which are NOT the same with EURO server.
So server WILL NOT turn into EURO server. Even if it changes.
If the times get changed for euros on chronos, I am done with this game. I would not be able to participate in clan hall or castle seiges. The game would be useless to me. Thank you NCSoft for ruining an already good game with more change. :mad:
Chronos server is comprised of all the previous NA servers, therefore a majority of the players are from...? North America! Naia server? That is made up of all of the previous EU servers. These two servers should have been left alone. One is obviously NA based and the other EU based. Just look at the poll for Naia; hmm 9:00am CST, yep looks like a euro server to me! Yet here I see my NA server being pushed back 4 hours? For what? "Just transfer!" you say? Look at the other servers polls, oh gee more EU based times. You are screwing over North America, your home and original fan base!
On Chronos, majority of the players probably was from NA. But now everybody has their vote, on Naia it looks pretty straight forward, so if what you are saying is true, why is it not the same on Chronos? Were not most of the people saying that L2 is dead and quiting game from NA? How many US servers there were, and right before GoD only one stayed? Perhaps EU players are somehow more dedicated to the L2 and were leaving the game less than US players?
Now I know some of you are going to say "Oh but euros play on Chronos too! The times are bad for us!" I don't care! It is not my problem that you chose to play on a North American time based server! You don't see people in the North or South American time zones flocking to EU servers aka Naia; do you? Yet, you all flood our servers because you can speak a little bit of english and you can't stand your own brethren! That's the excuse I hear the most. "EU players are stupid and immature" they would say. Their words not mine, that is not how I feel.
When I was starting L2 there was no euro server. If it turns out, that siege times will really be 4 hours sooner, wow, that would be great, it would mean me and half of my clan will experience actually 2 sieges and will see what the TW is about. And in that case, you could always transfer to other server, right? At least that is what I have been told always from NA players when complaining about times. Why still look in the past? I have been paying like 7 or how many years to the same company you did, then GoD came and all effort was simply trashed. People now doing in month (lazy ones) what I was doing 7 years. I had to get over it. You should do the same, because it is trully free game now and why it should not be more suitable for more people.
You people(Euros) don't even appreciate what NCWest does for you! You should be grateful you even have European servers let alone ones based in your time zone. When I started playing this game there were no european servers. Those came later. Yet you all take it for granted. Even before the launch of GoD you all spoke horribly about the company and about how as soon as 'Innovas' servers were open you were gone. Well? What happened? I still see the same old nay-saying-doom-cryers here! A bunch of punks is what you are!
You got it completely wrong. Look from my perspective. We (Euros) appreciate what NCWest does for us. We stayed loyal even if we have better ping opportunity. We grow in numbers. When you started playing game, there were no EU servers, guess why they added them? We had nothing as granted from the very beginning. In a matter of fact you are taking everything as granted. At the end of the 'old times' it was EURO Teon server the one most populated and ballanced server from all of them, so it could be said, that Euro players were saving the L2 community at the end.
I am not saying that all servers should be in EU more friendly times, best would really be to have some servers NA times, some servers EU times (but not only one!) and to have option to free transfer of complete account (even as I said before leaving all NA buddies would be not easy if even possible at all).
Dear NA Frandz,
Im an european player and stayed during nights for all server events sacrificing my sleep time, so me and you could have fun at all of them for 5 whole years. Please show some respect and do the same what i did for you for all these years.
Dear NA Frandz,
Im an european player and stayed during nights for all server events sacrificing my sleep time, so me and you could have fun at all of them for 5 whole years. Please show some respect and do the same what i did for you for all these years.
You always had the choice to go to naia. Where can we go to play in our times?
You always had the choice to go to naia. Where can we go to play in our times?
First i never had the choice to go to naia. When that was made possible i had established friendship with many ppl, some of them i met in RL. Not counting gears and lot of stuff.
Second - L2 is now in relaxed mode - sieges are saturdays and sundays. Oly is running only at weekends. Excuse me if i calculate it wrong but you still can participate in your day time, not staying up to 2-4 AM for sieges and oly going from 2 AM to 8 AM, right ?
its unlikely that they make all servers euro times regardless of poll. They will more likely take the 2-3 servers with highest euro votes and set them accordingly per vote totals and the remaining servers will be set to NA times.
In order to get the highest voter turnout, NCsoft should send out email announcements to every account as they do with newsletters.
First i never had the choice to go to naia. When that was made possible i had established friendship with many ppl, some of them i met in RL. Not counting gears and lot of stuff.
Second - L2 is now in relaxed mode - sieges are saturdays and sundays. Oly is running only at weekends. Excuse me if i calculate it wrong but you still can participate in your day time, not staying up to 2-4 AM for sieges and oly going from 2 AM to 8 PM, right ?
Some people work on weekends others have better ways to spend their time during the day that is why evening seiges always worked. There were options for you to transfer to naia/teon/franz so you always had an option, why you chose not to transfer to one of those servers when you had a chance was your decision but the problem with their being no NA server is complete ******** and a slap in the face to every north american player
Some people work on weekends others have better ways to spend their time during the day that is why evening seiges always worked. There were options for you to transfer to naia/teon/franz so you always had an option, why you chose not to transfer to one of those servers when you had a chance was your decision but the problem with their being no NA server is complete ******** and a slap in the face to every north american player
I have inside information from a russian clan which is demanding all his players make as much new accounts as possible with lvl 20 toons to vote to their prefered time...
Could you at least put some thought before taking important decisions like this?
Some people work on weekends others have better ways to spend their time during the day that is why evening seiges always worked. There were options for you to transfer to naia/teon/franz so you always had an option, why you chose not to transfer to one of those servers when you had a chance was your decision but the problem with their being no NA server is complete ******** and a slap in the face to every north american player
same thing why some NA are still stuck on Naia, limit on gear adena etc, i have 5 augmented weps for oly, u cant move them, so 1st thing u do after move, is spend 1-2bil on augmenting.....
then +6 sets etc sub gear many many factions in moving, i have 2 armor sets, 5 300 weps, i dont know about others but not rly easy to move that in the old transfer rules
and before u say omg they noobs for starting on teon/franz/luna, think mb that 3-5year ago that had to play eu timezone to be able to play when not working nights or realy early shifts at work. many reasons.
I have inside information from a russian clan which is demanding all his players make as much new accounts as possible with lvl 20 toons to vote to their prefered time...
Could you at least put some thought before taking important decisions like this?
I have inside information that aliens affected the servers and the bugs will never be fixed...so it doesnt matter if the server-event-times change or not :D
@Raven Its not about SOME...is about MOST. So lets wait to see before complain. Yes ppl had the option to transfer to other servers if they liked them more. So i WISH YOU that they will be a server you like to transfer to if Chronos changes into something you wont like.
same thing why some NA are still stuck on Naia, limit on gear adena etc, i have 5 augmented weps for oly, u cant move them, so 1st thing u do after move, is spend 1-2bil on augmenting.....
then +6 sets etc sub gear many many factions in moving, i have 2 armor sets, 5 300 weps, i dont know about others but not rly easy to move that in the old transfer rules
and before u say omg they noobs for starting on teon/franz/luna, think mb that 3-5year ago that had to play eu timezone to be able to play when not working nights or realy early shifts at work. many reasons.
But there was always the option to transfer to better times.How do you people not understand this?
First i never had the choice to go to naia. When that was made possible i had established friendship with many ppl, some of them i met in RL. Not counting gears and lot of stuff.
Second - L2 is now in relaxed mode - sieges are saturdays and sundays. Oly is running only at weekends. Excuse me if i calculate it wrong but you still can participate in your day time, not staying up to 2-4 AM for sieges and oly going from 2 AM to 8 AM, right ?
Certain guilds (euro/russian) are working to rig the vote on Shilen. I signed up for a US timezone server. If you change the timezone on my server there's no longer a reason for me to play. If you want to make euro servers, make some new ones. A majority of the players dont even read the website. Many of the South American and Latin American players on our server cant read english. This vote is stupid. It takes all of 20 minutes for a single player to make 7 accounts level 20.
But there was always the option to transfer to better times.How do you people not understand this?
didnt say wasnt option to transfer, but the option basicly made you semi restart after you transfer, coz the adena gear limits, lol 1 pet etc old rules, that stoped being usefull 2years ago, lol old limit was 2bil adena.
now the new limit to move to madmeld for free is 7bil, after selling all my extra stuff, i would still need 2-3 chars to move adena
didnt say wasnt option to transfer, but the option basicly made you semi restart after you transfer, coz the adena gear limits, lol 1 pet etc old rules, that stoped being usefull 2years ago, lol old limit was 2bil adena.
now the new limit to move to madmeld for free is 7bil, after selling all my extra stuff, i would still need 2-3 chars to move adena
I would much rather semi restart then be on a server where im not willing to participate in seiges/tw/oly
have to say 1 thing though as I'm ex Kain/Aria/Devianne player that ended up on Teon and that is what ppl tend to forget is that there are/were a lot of Euro players that started play when there wasn't any Euro servers around aka pre Teon/Franz/Luna that still play ona server called Chronos now..
even on my old server Kain the Euro player base have always outnumbered that of the NA players so this outcome doesn't surprise me at all, it's just NA players that have been ignorant of the facts.. as someone else already posted here the majority of the end game clans on Chronos don't show up in force at the 2nd siege cycle (like 3am on a Sunday for Euro players) and erm gee I wonder why..
the die is cast so instead of whine here go vote and tell all your friends to vote as well..
And in that case, you could always transfer to other server, right? At least that is what I have been told always from NA players when complaining about times.
Another person that did not bother to read my post yet wasted no time criticizing it. I will repeat myself to save you the trouble of searching. Look at what time people on the other servers are voting for. They are all the same. They are all EU influenced. There is no where to transfer to. Do you understand now?
Even if I did have some place to go, I would lose everything I could not equip with the exception of adena and quest items. Not because I hated my server and needed to move, not for any good reason other than my servers times for the best events in lineage 2 got changed. I followed the rules. I played on the servers best suited for my time slot. For no reason, I lose it all.
Some people work on weekends others have better ways to spend their time during the day that is why evening seiges always worked. There were options for you to transfer to naia/teon/franz so you always had an option, why you chose not to transfer to one of those servers when you had a chance was your decision but the problem with their being no NA server is complete ******** and a slap in the face to every north american player
You just cant see it from european's standpoint. Many euro ppl i know transferred to teon and franz, most of them quit short after that. When i started playing i did it for the game, now i keep playing mostly because of the people i play with. I didnt moaned for being stuck on NA server, like many other ppl i lived with it. Now NCsoft handing me a better time for server events - i accept it like a reward for 5 years missing sleep so euros and NA time zone players can have fun together.
You still got all server stuff during the day time, during the weekends. There is no written rule that sieges gotta be during evenings. If u gotta go work, visit parents, go church,vacation with gf - somethings gotta give.
You just cant see it from european's standpoint. Many euro ppl i know transferred to teon and franz, most of them quit short after that. When i started playing i did it for the game, now i keep playing mostly because of the people i play with. I didnt moaned for being stuck on NA server, like many other ppl i lived with it. Now NCsoft handing me a better time for server events - i accept it like a reward for 5 years missing sleep so euros and NA time zone players can have fun together.
You still got all server stuff during the day time, during the weekends. There is no written rule that sieges gotta be during evenings. If u gotta go work, visit parents, go church,vacation with gf - somethings gotta give.
You were never "stuck" what part of that dont you understand. If the votes stay the way they are oly will start at 12 in the afternoon on a friday. Cool for the unemployed or odd houred people but where would a north american person transfer to if they had a job? Oh wait there isnt anywhere for us to go
Another person that did not bother to read my post yet wasted no time criticizing it. I will repeat myself to save you the trouble of searching. Look at what time people on the other servers are voting for. They are all the same. They are all EU influenced. There is no where to transfer to. Do you understand now?
Even if I did have some place to go, I would lose everything I could not equip with the exception of adena and quest items. Not because I hated my server and needed to move, not for any good reason other than my servers times for the best events in lineage 2 got changed. I followed the rules. I played on the servers best suited for my time slot. For no reason, I lose it all.
Still. There are 3hours difference at the leading time between chronos+magmeld and Naia(EU).
You were never "stuck" what part of that dont you understand. If the votes stay the way they are oly will start at 12 in the afternoon on a friday. Cool for the unemployed or odd houred people but where would a north american person transfer to if they had a job? Oh wait there isnt anywhere for us to go
There you go, making sense.
+1
making ALL servers EU makes no sense. and that's about it.
You got it completely wrong. Look from my perspective. We (Euros) appreciate what NCWest does for us. We stayed loyal even if we have better ping opportunity. We grow in numbers. When you started playing game, there were no EU servers, guess why they added them? We had nothing as granted from the very beginning. In a matter of fact you are taking everything as granted. At the end of the 'old times' it was EURO Teon server the one most populated and ballanced server from all of them, so it could be said, that Euro players were saving the L2 community at the end.
I am not saying that all servers should be in EU more friendly times, best would really be to have some servers NA times, some servers EU times (but not only one!) and to have option to free transfer of complete account (even as I said before leaving all NA buddies would be not easy if even possible at all).
You got it right in your second paragraph. But as to your first, see where NA players are coming from, they did not add EU servers, they started with Shilen, a US server, then added 2 more US server, Bartz was added 3 weeks later after everyone is already 85+, it just so happens that many Euros also started playing on these servers, even more Euros than NA...
I don't think anyone is saying there shouldn't be servers with siege times for Euro's, but take a step back and look whats happening, maybe 25-35% of each server are NA players, so they will lose the vote for siege, but this is still a significant amount of NA players, and they're being screwed over.
Like you said there should be US servers and EU servers, then everyone wins, but instead NCsoft is screwing over all NA players to please EU, when they could easily accommodate both of us!
You were never "stuck" what part of that dont you understand. If the votes stay the way they are oly will start at 12 in the afternoon on a friday. Cool for the unemployed or odd houred people but where would a north american person transfer to if they had a job? Oh wait there isnt anywhere for us to go
Dear Sir,
unlike u im not so important, and if i choose to transfer im not sure if army of friends would join me moving away.We are just friends, not married couple.
As many ppl stated - they started before there was such thing as "EURO SERVER" available. Im not even bother to explain what costs staying only for the first siege and sleeping only 4h before work. Im sure if ppl like me and many others didnt stay for that events you would had epic 30vs30 sieges.
Exactly they have to keep atleast one server NA based, and it has to be Chronos.
Unfortunately, speaking as a European player, I believe you're right.
But hey, if it comes to that, so be it. Not like this poll was expected.
We'll just keep missing out on 2nd Sunday siege as usual.
And no, I'm not being sarcastic. But it sure was a simpler time on Gustin, before TW and the seperation between EU and NA servers.
. Veteran players are a part of the majorities, too.
There are no such things as majorities in this context. One is either a majority, or a minority. Veteran players are not a majority. They never have been and you are intentionally disregarding their feelings and loyalty. Had we been the majority, this would have never come up. Had we been the majority, the servers wouldn't have been light pre-goddess.
You are all fools. You have opened an all you can eat buffet for free and you expect to make your money by selling drinks and deserts. Well the hobos who are flooding your store are never going to buy any drinks or deserts. You don't start making specialty dishes for these people hoping it will encourage them to buy something! This charade may get you through the next quarterly report but you are going to be completely boned by the time the next one arrives.
There are no such things as majorities in this context. One is either a majority, or a minority. Veteran players are not a majority. They never have been and you are intentionally disregarding their feelings and loyalty. Had we been the majority, this would have never come up. Had we been the majority, the servers wouldn't have been light pre-goddess.
You are all fools. You have opened an all you can eat buffet for free and you expect to make your money by selling drinks and deserts. Well the hobos who are flooding your store are never going to buy any drinks or deserts. You don't start making specialty dishes for these people hoping it will encourage them to buy something! This charade may get you through the next quarterly report but you are going to be completely boned by the time the next one arrives.
LOL, a massive portion of the 'veteran' players on Chronos are EU players.
A lot of people forget that until C4 or 5 the only problem with US times was a siege once every 2 weeks and the manor that came in C3. Since then EU players got shafted more and more with stuff like Oly, TW, Peak time droprates etc.
It's a democratic vote, I've got a feeling it'll stay US times but the fact is whatever gets the most votes obviously has the majority of people voting for it and this 'veteran' junk is complete trash since there's plenty of both EU and NA vets voting on all servers.
Exactly they have to keep atleast one server NA based, and it has to be Chronos.
Naia and Chronos shouldn't even be on this poll. If they're going to change **** around they need to do it only on Shilen/Magmeld and one needs to be NA, the other EURO at the most. Innova is >>>>>>
Plz make a poll to change olympiad time as well. 0100-0700 for gmt+1 is the worst possible time for EU players.
This poll changes the whole server's schedule, including Olympiad. The whole server's present schedule will shift according to the most popular vote times.
I don't think this can be emphasized enough: Chronos and Naia should NOT have been included in this "vote."
As for the voting prerequisite: To be eligible to vote, you must have a character that is level 20 or higher on the server you wish to vote for.
No.
No, no, no. This is a bad voting prerequisite. Did the Tersi's Light event not teach you (i.e. NCWest) anything?
My suggestion would be to restrict voting only to the accounts that were active BEFORE the voting began. This isn't meant to be unfair to new players; it's to avoid the exploitation of the free account creation that had been obvious during the Tersi's Light event.
This poll changes the whole server's schedule, including Olympiad. The whole server's present schedule will shift according to the most popular vote times.
Horrible I play on shillien an american based server and the **** euros are going to have the seiges at 8am pst. most of the players are american, these people can play on euro servers or russian servers and they get to vote, what BS! going to be a lot of /quits if this goes badly.
Horrible I play on shillien an american based server and the **** euros are going to have the seiges at 8am pst. most of the players are american, these people can play on euro servers or russian servers and they get to vote, what BS! going to be a lot of /quits if this goes badly.
and you are wrong here most of the players are from europe
if you are talking about innova servers they are worse than a private servers, wish NCwest never gave them rights to open eu servers
and its that bad? you get your first siege at 8am and second one few hours later i dont see a problem here, your the only one QQing
If NC West had still servers located in Europe, i think with free to play would have at least 10-12 European servers only. There are a lot of europeans on all servers, more that you can imagine. In this polls should be collected votes from apropiate hours because, as you can see on Chronos now, a lot of votes are at 19:00 and 20:00 GMT+2, wich means that people that voted for this hour can play together. As you see, this pole is feedback from all forum posts to open a new euro timezone server. Now, when people made awakening and probably bought some items from store, made friends, etc., is hard to move them to another server. Soon or later, NC Soft Korea will see that most of European ppl don't trust Innova and they made a mistake when they weithdrew license from Europe to NC West. So, i hope that next year NC West will have again Euro located servers ;):p
I have been playing since C2 on Bartz (the old Bartz) even though I'm a european player. I remember in the old days I had to wake up alot 3-5 in the night for sieges on saturday!
With this poll, you can determine better whose the player base of the servers. From my understanding all servers are starting to look a bit european. Although i must say the server times wont be bad for americans either. For example sieges will be around 12:00-13:00 in the afternoon.
That's not so bad? It's weekend anyway. Better then 3-5 in the night.
If times are to change on only a certain servers Sace. I think it's a good idea to offer all people FULL free transfers. This includes warehouse etc.
I have been playing since C2 on Bartz (the old Bartz) even though I'm a european player. I remember in the old days I had to wake up alot 3-5 in the night for sieges on saturday!
With this poll, you can determine better whose the player base of the servers. From my understanding all servers are starting to look a bit european. Although i must say the server times wont be bad for americans either. For example sieges will be around 12:00-13:00 in the afternoon.
That's not so bad? It's weekend anyway. Better then 3-5 in the night.
If times are to change on only a certain servers Sace. I think it's a good idea to offer all people FULL free transfers. This includes warehouse etc.
that's what makes me the most upset.
i work every Saturday and Sunday.
so when i get home from work is when sieges are.
now they will be before i get home, it's depressing.
therefore /quit game and move on with my life.
I have a question Sace, regarding the new times. If I set the time to GMT+2, I can see that in Chronos there are roughly 300 votes on 19:00 , 700 on 20:00 and 400 on 24:00.
When you make your final decision will you consider only the highest column or also the ones around it +-1 ?
For example if at the end of the voting there are 500 votes on 19:00, 1200 on 20:00 and 1300 on 24:00 , which time will NcSoft choose?
For one more time NC Soft's inefficiency is made manifest. They have been ignoring facts and the results blow up in their faces. It is evident that the servers seem to be mostly EU based and this is reflected in the polls (so far at least). Although I am an EU player playing on Chronos for 5.5 years, I don't wish the NA players suffer what I have (awful Olympiad/Siege/prime times).
The simplest thing NC could have done is set server times on their own (taking into account the demographics) and simply allow free full account transfers. If need be, have 3 EU servers and one NA, not the other way round. What will they do now if all 4 servers are voted for EU based times?
Thought about this overnight, and came to conclusion that it doesnt matter if the times change, because even if people quit, there will be new players that fill their place.
Thought about this overnight, and came to conclusion that it doesnt matter if the times change, because even if people quit, there will be new players that fill their place.
Yes, because tonnes of people have really been sitting and waiting to play the game until every single server is on EU times...
They are just doing this to extort money. After the time changeable they will create a new server, and allow you to pay for transfer to a server that has the old times
Democracy is 1 man 1 vote. Anyone can create a new account make a toon to level 20 in like 10 minutes and vote unlimited times. NA was gaining on Euro times last for Chornus and overnight there is 200 more votes for Euro and 15 more votes for NA.
Obviously there is a lot of NA people that want to keep the time. So NCSoft will alienate at least 500+ customers right now as it stands. Magmeld looks like it will be Euro times too.
So all 5 servers will have Euro times, where will NA players play?
I love people who think the US is a democracy lol Someone needs to read history books.
US is a Repubic of 50 States. Each state internally runs itself and votes for its own representatives. Even the president is not elected by the people in the US.
Direct democracy don't work because it is too open to corruportion.
It makes perfect sense to let level 20s decide the time tables for end game content like Olympiad and castle sieges ahahahahaha. This very much IS american style democracy. Let the unwashed masses vote to take away the money and rights of the middle class, while the upper class (ncsoft) reaps the profits.