In addition to this game server maintenance, please also read up on the NCsoft.com maintenance (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=231113) occurring on this day, and the details on payment changes that maintenance includes.
After all last weeks maintenances, we only had problem after they finished..
What we have to do now is to pray for tomorrow? For a "healthy" maintenance without any disaster after?
Thanks for soulshots now working after I don't know how many patches, hotfixes and the like. Any word on what caused it so we can remind the incoming new staff when it happens again in the future?
Oh so nothing will be done/planned for NAIA login problems. Ok, got it.
they won't anything atm....that way they maybe want to force more ppl to transfer to magmeld:rolleyes:
wait, wait, before the new changes (end of maintenance) lets think carefully, there will be any problem with the changes in gk and pvp system this week? to correct problems before going through another week of suffering (as with Tersi event) :D
The day Ncsoft do something about the bot's is the day Lineage 2 is going down.
The day gamemaster (gm) do there work ohh that will be the day so that will be never.
If there are any gm there like the job. do some thing about the login problem have. Instead of sleeping on the job, like you have do in the past
More and more ppl will come so forget about seeing naia again on light traffic. Simple truth is more & more alt servers going bust since the last 2 weeks.. PPL want their time to matter now and come play retail, and like it or not many many many of these ppl are european. Innova is allready zerged with high 90s charrs (atleast 70% of the ppl are 94 and higher). Already +15/16/17 weapoons in use so no point starting there(and also let's not forget the awful sslag). Atleast 150 friends of mine from different networks joined Naia last week... So that's the way it will be.. you don't like it ... QQ and /deletecharr
Piece..
P.S
Don't know what's your problem with lags, but since i re-started here i've had lag not more then 3 times... So stop complaining about server issues and stop your autoCP/targets/radars/torrents with pron and etc... And if you know your ISP sucks don't stay and hope for miracle, but go and cancel your contract..
Thanks for soulshots now working after I don't know how many patches, hotfixes and the like. Any word on what caused it so we can remind the incoming new staff when it happens again in the future?
What new staff? They fixed it over the corpses of dead interns.
We already have +15 weapons on Naia and will have more since the DEWR is available in L2Store.
It's only 3600 coins each, so in case you are not an unemployed US citizen, you can afford at least few of them monthly..
Meaning in like 1 year we will have hundreds of OEd to guts weapons.
Ppl just wait for r99 ones and will push them to +15 at any cost. Just wait.
I don't have any problem with that... ppl who have $3k + to waste for game let them do it. In 1 Year time there could be so many new things that this OE items will become like all the +++ Vespers, Recurves and etc... . Let's not forget the server is free (for now) and NCSoft have to make some profit afterall . I'm FOR ppl who have money to waste them in game. But i don't like it when it's done like in innova... Botting 24/7 for 2 weeks empting all the chars and then destroying server's economy...
I think this is good compensation. 5 hours of good exp :)
No, this isnt good compensation. Im clan leader and i had DC during Castle Siege, after this i cant log back into game. As well others, this is very very bad for players. I as a long time player i'm not used to such things.
Why are other games company looking for solutions and NC not ?
I think too that this rune for the issues we had is just a bad joke...
i see it like "here get a sweet candy to forget what happened".
Well what's the point to give this rune eventually if we won't be able to use them?If people crash during the rune of xp use and cannot relog what shall they do?
Why can't ncsoft hire a gm only to search bots/bot programs and ban them permenantly,so we solve the "high server traffic problem"?Why ncsoft ignores our request to get a more fair game with more severe actions against bots?
There is not a single bot protection:many ppl told me they logged in game with bot programs without problem...some continue to use them,got reported(sometimes not tho)and they do not get banned.
It looks like that for ncsoft it became normal that people use bots,so they just stopped to care...or simply they don't know how to stop them...which is sad for such a big company :/.
Correct me if i am wrong,because from how is going lately i have this impression.
Well guys i can only say that people are coming in from private servers. I do not think NC was ready for that, and I also think NC should consider regional servers. Bots are a plague to any MMO game NC needs to ditch gameguard and use punkbuster because people are still using programs like gameguard is not even there. Also i think NC should increase the amount of adena gained from quests and mob drops or decrease the cost of items via NPC shops this will almost eliminate gold sellers its been done in other MMOs and proves to work, if money has no value then who will buy it with real money? NC needs to hire some game testers and some in-game GMs to police the towns ESPECIALLY TALKING ISLAND. Institute name restrictions disallowing players who use numbers and or !@#$% in their names. Increase server bandwidth not player count, open the old servers erica and sieghart etc. and do character transfers to them keeping in mind regional restrictions, Problems solved and we can all enjoy L2 wether your from a private server or retail.
Guys, If you aren't like the 5 hours Rune of XP compensation than not use it up.
Also stop provoke the NCwest, that you spent your money to nothing, because you can't login.
Our servers since 2 months full, you could see what is the situation and you weren't forced to buy now anything from item store.
With or without bots but Naia and Chronos would be full in both time, first of all under TW, Sieges and prime times.
NCwest only can do 1 thing what would be really useful, block the new character creation on the Naia and Chronos server, just those players can create character who have already atleast 1 character on one of server.
Also, they have to open new servers earlier or later. First of all, because the Goddess of Destruction's PvE contents sized to 2000-4000 online players who level balanced share in the different level hunting grounds.
When the Harmony and the Tauti patches are release here, than will be better cuz will more hunting grounds.
LethalArcher has right too, that European peoples much more trust in NCwest like in Innova and earlier or later, but NCwest have to return to Europe normally.
When I open the Lineage2.com sometimes watch on the little facebook windows who are the guys and girls who play Lineage 2.
I guess 70% of American content players are South American. Also I do read often typical European names, while I almost never see classical North American names.
But keep in mind, that we have players here from Asia, Middle-East and Africa too!
NCwest only can do 1 thing what would be really useful, block the new character creation on the Naia and Chronos server, just those players can create character who have already atleast 1 character on one of server.
this is also a good idea while adding a way to invite a limited amount of friends via friend server invite code that gives rewards for both the inviter and invitee, non tradeable items of course.
Guys, If you aren't like the 5 hours Rune of XP compensation than not use it up.
Also stop provoke the NCwest, that you spent your money to nothing, because you can't login.
Our servers since 2 months full, you could see what is the situation and you weren't forced to buy now anything from item store.
With or without bots but Naia and Chronos would be full in both time, first of all under TW, Sieges and prime times.
NCwest only can do 1 thing what would be really useful, block the new character creation on the Naia and Chronos server, just those players can create character who have already atleast 1 character on one of server.
Also, they have to open new servers earlier or later. First of all, because the Goddess of Destruction's PvE contents sized to 2000-4000 online players who level balanced share in the different level hunting grounds.
When the Harmony and the Tauti patches are release here, than will be better cuz will more hunting grounds.
LethalArcher has right too, that European peoples much more trust in NCwest like in Innova and earlier or later, but NCwest have to return to Europe normally.
When I open the Lineage2.com sometimes watch on the little facebook windows who are the guys and girls who play Lineage 2.
I guess 70% of American content players are South American. Also I do read often typical European names, while I almost never see classical North American names.
But keep in mind, that we have players here from Asia, Middle-East and Africa too!
I`m pretty sure youre not Yoda and you`re just a dumb kid with , of course, dumb ideas. Blocking the creation of new characters ? Rly ? This is like digging their own grave. I`m sure NC doesn`t need new customers, im 110% sure. How dumb can ppl get.
2012... and u still care about bots? there are 5+ years of bots in this game (bots are in every mmo)... ppl that have time playing this don't care anymore lolz... is unfair but like i say... there are 5 years already :p
LOL, i am from east eu, near Russia, and never had any lag problems or something like that. Check your internet provider first. My home internet is 300mb/s in my country and 200mb/s outgoing in others. No lag playin L2.
2012... and u still care about bots? there are 5+ years of bots in this game (bots are in every mmo)... ppl that have time playing this don't care anymore lolz... is unfair but like i say... there are 5 years already :p
this is an uninformed response correction bots are only in some F2P MMOs they do not exist in EQ2 FFXI EQ SWG need i go on before you spout nonsense know your facts
this is an uninformed response correction bots are only in some F2P MMOs they do not exist in EQ2 FFXI EQ SWG need i go on before you spout nonsense know your facts
ofc there are bots... that only some ppl have it and don't share them are another thing or are not populated as L2 Bots...
ofc there are bots... that only some ppl have it and don't share them are another thing or are not populated as L2 Bots...
again youd be wrong ive played these games for some years 1. you cannot run multiple clients 2. they have in-game GMs and good third party software protection. so yes they dont exist
again youd be wrong ive played these games for some years 1. you cannot run multiple clients 2. they have in-game GMs and good third party software protection. so yes they dont exist
1. what u wanna come? make the same **** that innova makes? don't allow multiple clients and who paid for PA can make multiple clients? this game need multiple clients (buffers, ppl from CP that can't log and u log them) this game is like this... it need multiple client...
2. in-game GM's and? L2 have it too... that u don't see them is another thing... every time i make a petition i haved a fasted response from the GM's... maybe NCWest need more GM's? maybe... but there are GM's that they are doing another things that u don't know (fixing bugs etc, GoD have a lot of bugs (more if it doesn't have a PTS)). good third party software protection and? same **** ppl say about Frost from ruoff and what happend? ppl make softwares/bots to evade it...
WHEN will the maintenance be up? it was 5 hours half an hr ago. Any end in sight? please keep up informed if the maintennce is knowledgeably gonna be longer.
WHEN will the maintenance be up? it was 5 hours half an hr ago. Any end in sight? please keep up informed if the maintennce is knowledgeably gonna be longer.
ur either not any good in math or dosent know how the clock works, or both
BTW why do they need 5h to just upload so few updates ? is it gonna be so long each time ?
This is the reason
Due to an overwhelming amount of server transfers to the Magmeld server from Chronos and Naia, some players may not be able to transfer over after tomorrow's scheduled maintenance. We are going to transfer as many characters as we can, but we will have to delay some of these transfers for the following week due to the given maintenance time window. Next week will be the last week for server transfers, so please do not miss this chance if you are still hesitating. Future paid server transfers will be offered when account services become available again. We will let you know when that time comes. We thank you for your active participation!
bots are only in some F2P MMOs they do not exist in EQ2 FFXI EQ SWG need i go on
...You're kidding, right? I played FFXI for more than three years, myself, (and some of the others for less time) and while I'll admit that botting wasn't as BAD in those games, it was certainly visible. I can't decide whether you're trolling poorly, or just delusional. They just use a Windower program (before FFXI made their own) to circumvent the protections.
I don't know if they do it anymore, but FFXI used to announce on their website any time they conducted a mass banning of bots/farmers. For some reason, the GM's are not given the power to insta-ban unless it's exceedingly severe, the company prefers to watch for groups of bots and get them all at once.
again youd be wrong ive played these games for some years 1. you cannot run multiple clients 2. they have in-game GMs and good third party software protection.
Again, wrong. Multi-boxing, VirtualBox-type software, and even XP Mode -- which is free and usable on Windows 7 -- would allow this.
I WILL agree that having active GM's and better software like PunkBuster helps, but there's no way to stop them completely. However, whether the GM's can DO anything varies by game.
Bots and currency farmers/sellers will plague ALL MMO's, F2P or not, until the market for buying what they sell goes away. They capitalize upon laziness, which, unfortunately, is in near-endless supply.
As for the suggestion to drop shop prices...That won't do a thing. The inflation in costs of items -- e.g., the economy on a number of high-end items was RULED by the farmers in FFXI -- is caused by players jacking up the prices, not the game itself. More money from quests and such would help, yeah, but it won't change the fact that people who BUY ingame currency are too lazy to do even that. Why quest and grind when they can just spend a few days' pay on a maxed-out toon?
Banning by any method short of outright IP range bans are useless in a F2P game anyway, they'll just make new accounts 5 minutes later, just with a different set of forged names/addresses than the ones they used the first time. Blocking entire countries that "should not have access" according to the TOS is problematic because of the chance that they wil catch some legit players in the "block"; I don't see why they can't just block all anonymous IP's, tho. I can't honestly think of any legitimate, non-business reason to use an anonymizer proxy, anyway...The most frequent rationale I've seen is with regards to protecting one's privacy. That amuses me mostly because it means that you are trusting the sort of people who would provide such a service -- one that caters to NON-legit users -- to be telling you the truth when they say they can't read any and all data that you send up the pipe...
1. what u wanna come? make the same **** that innova makes? don't allow multiple clients and who paid for PA can make multiple clients? this game need multiple clients (buffers, ppl from CP that can't log and u log them) this game is like this... it need multiple client...
2. in-game GM's and? L2 have it too... that u don't see them is another thing... every time i make a petition i haved a fasted response from the GM's... maybe NCWest need more GM's? maybe... but there are GM's that they are doing another things that u don't know (fixing bugs etc, GoD have a lot of bugs (more if it doesn't have a PTS)). good third party software protection and? same **** ppl say about Frost from ruoff and what happend? ppl make softwares/bots to evade it...
1. is an excuse to not party with others if you need buffs add someone to party who is a buffer you get buffs from lvl 1-75 this is called playing with training wheels. I didnt at no point say take away multi clients you only assumed thats what i said i was giving you an honest example of why they dont have bots.
2. those petitions prolly go to some kind of chat service which notifys them and then they just log in if thats the case that doesnt mean their presence is always there in game wether invisible or not. and i do know about some of these things bugs arent for me to fix thats for the dev team ive said nothing about bugs in the game of course there are bugs its their job to fix them but bugs have no bearing on the bot situation it is in fact the reason people cannot log in. If a company wants their game to be bot free they know exactly how to make it happen FFXI EQ2 are very good examples of this you get what you pay for but you have to play to know and i do know because i play.
...You're kidding, right? I played FFXI for more than three years, myself, (and some of the others for less time) and while I'll admit that botting wasn't as BAD in those games, it was certainly visible. I can't decide whether you're trolling poorly, or just delusional. They just use a Windower program (before FFXI made their own) to circumvent the protections.
I don't know if they do it anymore, but FFXI used to announce on their website any time they conducted a mass banning of bots/farmers. For some reason, the GM's are not given the power to insta-ban unless it's exceedingly severe, the company prefers to watch for groups of bots and get them all at once.
Again, wrong. Multi-boxing, VirtualBox-type software, and even XP Mode -- which is free and usable on Windows 7 -- would allow this.
I WILL agree that having active GM's and better software like PunkBuster helps, but there's no way to stop them completely. However, whether the GM's can DO anything varies by game.
Bots and currency farmers/sellers will plague ALL MMO's, F2P or not, until the market for buying what they sell goes away. They capitalize upon laziness, which, unfortunately, is in near-endless supply.
As for the suggestion to drop shop prices...That won't do a thing. The inflation in costs of items -- e.g., the economy on a number of high-end items was RULED by the farmers in FFXI -- is caused by players jacking up the prices, not the game itself. More money from quests and such would help, yeah, but it won't change the fact that people who BUY ingame currency are too lazy to do even that. Why quest and grind when they can just spend a few days' pay on a maxed-out toon?
Banning by any method short of outright IP range bans are useless in a F2P game anyway, they'll just make new accounts 5 minutes later, just with a different set of forged names/addresses than the ones they used the first time. Blocking entire countries that "should not have access" according to the TOS is problematic because of the chance that they wil catch some legit players in the "block"; I don't see why they can't just block all anonymous IP's, tho. I can't honestly think of any legitimate, non-business reason to use an anonymizer proxy, anyway...The most frequent rationale I've seen is with regards to protecting one's privacy. That amuses me mostly because it means that you are trusting the sort of people who would provide such a service -- one that caters to NON-legit users -- to be telling you the truth when they say they can't read any and all data that you send up the pipe...
ive been there for FFXI economy failures the game was built on gil for sure and even now they are still working to lessen RMT and have been doing a fantastic job at it. if you remember they dont multi client they use multiple computers to run the game the windower is just that even when they made it legal it wasnt a problem
2012... and u still care about bots? there are 5+ years of bots in this game (bots are in every mmo)... ppl that have time playing this don't care anymore lolz... is unfair but like i say... there are 5 years already :p
yes,what's wrong to be worried about bots?
You talk like if botting is absolutly normal and allowed.
No it's not from rules.So we are all allowed to "cry" to ncsoft about bots.
If then they don't care it's another story...
What i wonder is,why everytime ppl complain about bots ncsoft doesn't answer?They stay silent when people complain about bots.I heard that their partner,innova found a good way (at least temporary)to prevent botting,and the few who still manage to bot are banned easier..can't we try something similar?I can't believe that ncsoft can't find a solution to stop/limit to minimum botting if their partners found..
Why end process everyday when you can uninstall it once a week?
Oh don't tell me you never turn of your PC i'm tired of that people.
PMB.exe is turned on only once every Wednesday on my pc. Just disable PMB autorunning when system is booted.
What's PMB for? And why i should turn it off? Explain please.
Are you aware of how torrent and the old p2p software like napster, edonkey, kazza, emule work?
Well it is exactly the same.What it does, is use your computer to upload the updated files to other users, so in that way ncsoft saves bandwidth and use all of us as their free repository for client updates. (to be technically exact, the first customers download it from ncsoft and then they become seeders once the download has completed).
From a security point of view pmb opens a potential hole to your systems since it opens a two way port to the whole internet.
From a customer point of view, not only do you pay nc for buying ncoin but you also work for free for them without knowing.
those petitions prolly go to some kind of chat service which notifys them and then they just log in if thats the case that doesnt mean their presence is always there in game wether invisible or not.
yep, and when the notification arises, the GM simply can't login due to a high traffic :D
well, all the disputes about the bots are rooted to the login problems right now. when I started playing on Teon there were bots, those packs of de-leveled dorfs in brig set farming mobs near dion, and what? people were not complaining about bots as much as they do now, just cause there were no login problems - I don't remember I was not able to login even during sieges or in prime-time - we were making money on bots, training them, dropping them, PKing them, etc. In other words, NC should think about server capacity first, not about bots. All that ******** that bots don't allow you to grind ... well, deal with them IG - PK them, or "move" them to another spot with "1 a lane"
want to get rid of bots? stop buying IG currency with RL money simples really is that easy, but for the log in if NC soft wont incress their bandwidth, then make another Euro server at least and let us move over there pls. or maybe the the people coming from private servers will go on the new Euro servers
I`m pretty sure youre not Yoda and you`re just a dumb kid with , of course, dumb ideas. Blocking the creation of new characters ? Rly ? This is like digging their own grave. I`m sure NC doesn`t need new customers, im 110% sure. How dumb can ppl get.
no probably not Yoda, most likely some one from Europe whos first language, maybe even their second language is not english. in which case i think their attempt at English, no matter how disjointed it is, is probably better than your attempt at Kartvelian or Uralic or even one of the many dialects of Slavic.
how dumb and arrogant can ppl be thinking everyone must speak perfect English
Blocking New Characters on specific servers is a fantastic idea. It has worked for other MMORPGs in the past to control server populus.
LOL at people complaining about the 7 day runes. If you knew the server was laggy and ss not working, why did u use it? didnt know not being very bright was eligible for compensation.
Only one whos really should be compensated are the ones who used the runes before the update that crashed the server.
Pretty much be happy your getting anything. :)
yes,what's wrong to be worried about bots?
You talk like if botting is absolutly normal and allowed.
No it's not from rules.So we are all allowed to "cry" to ncsoft about bots.
If then they don't care it's another story...
What i wonder is,why everytime ppl complain about bots ncsoft doesn't answer?They stay silent when people complain about bots.I heard that their partner,innova found a good way (at least temporary)to prevent botting,and the few who still manage to bot are banned easier..can't we try something similar?I can't believe that ncsoft can't find a solution to stop/limit to minimum botting if their partners found..
To anyone that's played retail for a few years, botting is pretty normal to see. It's way better now than it used to be.
1. How to get rid of farmers? That's quite easy: stop buying adena from them.
Yes, you must stop doing it. I mean you. And you, and you too.
It's funny to read people's complaints about farmer trains while at least some of the compainers keep buying adena for RL currency from their "offenders". Of course they are not going to reveal it. Quite the opposite, they'd come here and tell cool stories of "how easily they make money in game, just by playing the market and blah blah blah". Come on.
Making adena in L2 has never been easy. If everything said by those "successful market players" were true then there wouldn't be any farmers, yet they are still there. The farmers are there because they have a pretty solid customer base.
Therefore, it is you who I blame for the rampant RMT problem. You, the community. Don't shift responsibility on NCsoft while it's your own fault, and nobody else's.
2. How to resolve the log-in issues? Quite simple: NCsoft must block new accounts creation on Chronos and Naia, at least temporarily.
There is no other way around, whether you like it or not.
3. How to deal with Pando Media Boo(b)ster? Once a week (after maintenance) check your Task Manager and kill pmb.exe. It won't be back for the rest of the week.
4. How to eradicate bots? Alas, there is no real solution here, as long as NCsoft is not willing to hire a team of active, competent GMs policing the servers 24/7. I doubt it is going to happen any time soon.
I dont care about the xp rune my friend but all my friends went to magmeld so wtf i will do here alone?Ok we sell everything that we had in low prices so we can go to magmeld and we stayed here.Ok the game went f2p but they can act like this.I want my transfer now
I'm not transfered too. I deleted clan,mentee.mentor,friends,mail,auciton EVERYTHING! And it's not only me my friend and his box acc also. We had done everything as it supposed to be done for succesful transfer, can u please explain us why we didn't get transfered?
Where is the gm now to explain to us why we didnt transfer?Last weeks transfer went all of them why they didnt did it this week also.Sm1 to tell us the reason
Where is the gm now to explain to us why we didnt transfer?Last weeks transfer went all of them why they didnt did it this week also.Sm1 to tell us the reason
if u learned to read u would see that they had to many transfers
if u learned to read u would see that they had to many transfers
My friend i know how to read and write.The problem is why me and my friend didnt transfered and some ppl did.What are the criterias the choosed to transfer characters.
no probably not Yoda, most likely some one from Europe whos first language, maybe even their second language is not english. in which case i think their attempt at English, no matter how disjointed it is, is probably better than your attempt at Kartvelian or Uralic or even one of the many dialects of Slavic.
how dumb and arrogant can ppl be thinking everyone must speak perfect English
Blocking New Characters on specific servers is a fantastic idea. It has worked for other MMORPGs in the past to control server populus.
Wow, just WOW. Lemme translate it to you, so that you clearly see the picture outside the box. You prolly play on one of those 2 servers you "strongly agree" account creation blockage should be imposed. Heres how things go. The majority of the income NC receives WEEKLY at least comes from xp runes/packs. Now, if they were to block character creation , they would create a BIG GAP in their money flow just because it works like this : new char -> new set of xp packs -> full lvl char -> no more serious "groceries".
Now, if you were to remove the first step, you would eliminate all the others. Sure thing, you would already have the already settled population still buying, BUT, you wont have the same income flow. You would just create a GAP as big as the period youd have this new char creation blockage. The bigger the period, the bigger the flow. Im sure NC is at least as greedy and selfish as you are and it wont happen.
Have a good day.
Edit : This might have worked on another MMOs who have a "subscription" type of income , but not on a f2p MMO where there is no fee to pay. Keep the char creation blocked for enough time and you`ll create a f2p no income server.
Kill process PMB from memory( /task manager/ctrl alt del/process)
Go to control panel uninstall panda media buster and try use launcher
Some friends help it