Juji's Lab Discussion

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Awesome! TY Juji :D
Awesome project! :)
I am very happy you followed your idea to the end :D
Wow, this is an amazing idea... Get ready, im stockin' up on questions as we speak!
is it hard to do a site like
l2wiki.com ?
is it hard to do a site like
l2wiki.com ?

u do it and tell us
Now the only thing left is to have your own blog and then TV Show.
He doesn't have to go that far. The important thing about Juji's Lab is that with a moderate amount of effort he creates a great benefit for the players, adding value to the game, as a Marxist would say. Like for example people now know thanks to the Treasure Box Test (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=241549) that if they turn in their remaining Territory Badges to the Aden Reconstruction NPC they are basically buying Elixirs D-Grade and EAD for 100,000 adena per piece. Better check whether you have maybe enough Badges for a Mastery Codex from the News Informer :D
Hi,

First im'glad to see this new topic, it's really a good idea.
Second, is itpossible for us to do our own test andpost them here ?
I like do that kind of test and i've realized few in the past so i'm thinking about making new tests and posting results.
Thanks for the test about the Unidentified items Juji !

I am really please about this lab. You do tons of experiment, and the results are beneficial for everyone. Great job, keep up the good work !

Laby
this is great Juji .. thx.
Ye, that is rly rly a great step. TY !!!
We been asking for that several years.
This is an amazing project. Most of those tests doesn't exist at all, and if they do, we have to find them in korean language with a poor google translation.

Ty :)
I really like this idea Juji, thanks to make it for us!:)
Just saying freaking great :D
This lab is not what I thought :(
Cant say better, :D
Test: Which does more damage. Single Dagger or Dual Daggers
Question: Just wanted to see which is a better weapon to use I see people going Single and I see alot of people going Duals just wanted to see the damage outcome and maybe an overall dmg.
Reason: I want to be hot sauce playing my dual class dagger its at 95 and i do not know what i should use specter single ot specter duals
Can you put your "static damage" option on pets too ?

Any way for normal players to get it to do our own tests ? I have like 9 tests do so yet :D
Can you put your "static damage" option on pets too ?

Any way for normal players to get it to do our own tests ? I have like 9 tests do so yet :D
Yes, it works with pets as well.
Ok, waiting the end of one week to ask you one big thing :D
its true that after awaken if the monster is 3 or much level away from the player's level there will be a XP reduction ?
its true that after awaken if the monster is 3 or much level away from the player's level there will be a XP reduction ?
Yes, and delivered damage reduction as well, in addition to the increased received damage.
Juji's Lab is my newest bookmark favorite =3 awesome idea whoever came up with this =] s2 juji's lab
Yes, these Labs are just awesome! :D

I have one lil request tho Juji, could you please add a note to the Lab tests involving boxes, pouches etc. to say where they come from? Like from which quest or npc or ceremony etc.? :) Would help a lot! Thanks! :)
Id like to thank for the tests you're making, rly helpful.

But i would like to say some tests might not rly be needed since there is already some done for it and there's many info about some...for example the one Talestris proposed regarding element going to summons. This has been known before GoD expansion and is written on many articles and can be asked and tested by the player at any given time in a feasable way. (Also would like to comment on how a lvl 95 summoner never knew of this nor ever noticed ...)
Wonderful idea, very well done, I hope you’ll keep finding the time to let this run for long!
Very interesting & fun to read, thx for your efforts.
Juji what happens?
No new test have been made in about 2 weeks, did we push too hard and broke it?
Are you way too busy?
Or something else?

Just worried because this is a really good addition to the community.
Juji what happens?
No new test have been made in about 2 weeks, did we push too hard and broke it?
Are you way too busy?
Or something else?

Just worried because this is a really good addition to the community.
I am currently working on other tasks that have higher priority at the moment. I have also been finding better methods to do some of my tests as well as getting more precise information about in-game mechanics.

I will say that some of the requests I receive are often silly, can already be found from other sources, or are very overwhelming. Requests are not done by a first come first serve basis either, but by feasibility, interest, and if the request meets my criteria. There are many things that I cannot test too because the tools needed to complete certain requests do not exist.

I really enjoy completing these lab tests too, it's not much of a burden (unless you try to make it for me). If there is something that has higher priority on my list then my time with the lab is sacrificed, but please do submit more feasible requests.
Good to hear is just work.
Hahaha Juji i saw ur pic u so hawt =P btw i love this section juji's lab =P keep the good work =P
Do GMs have any way of faster testing with a mass number of hits? I'd like to request a test pertaining to shield defense, but it would require hundreds of hits.
Do GMs have any way of faster testing with a mass number of hits? I'd like to request a test pertaining to shield defense, but it would require hundreds of hits.
I can try to test this through damage logs, but I would need a specific setup that would not be difficult/super lengthy to test.
lol
Testing: Othell rogue skill damage with the following items.
Talisman Longing - 4% skill damage
Octavis'necklace - 5% skill damage
Seraph Leather Armor [assassin type] set - 6% skill damage
Dual-master's wrath - 27% skills damage

Question: Why does the % skill damage increase not seem to work on Othell rogue stabs? Can you show proof that these things work for the Othell Rogue Stabs?

Reason: A few Othells in my clan have gotten together and tried testing this ourselves. With all of these items we should have around 42% more skill damage with our stabs but these items are not adding the bonuses.
I don't know where to post. so i post here.
Is it myth or reality that fairy agathion have effect for drops in fortuna instance (lower the chance or something, people always say to me and others to unsummon that fairy in instance)
I don't know where to post. so i post here.
Is it myth or reality that fairy agathion have effect for drops in fortuna instance (lower the chance or something, people always say to me and others to unsummon that fairy in instance)
Having the agathion out does nothing for drops in Fortuna. The agathion just allows you to teleport to Ancient City of Arcan.
Sorry guys for not being able to complete any lab requests lately. I have been extremely swamped these past few weeks and have not had any extra time to work on your requests. I will try to do what I can in my spare time though.
Sorry guys for not being able to complete any lab requests lately. I have been extremely swamped these past few weeks and have not had any extra time to work on your requests. I will try to do what I can in my spare time though.

Good guy Juji.

They should give you a medal for being hardworking.
Since you have Lindvior on QA server can we request Lindvior specific tests? :)
Since you have Lindvior on QA server can we request Lindvior specific tests? :)

Juji told me no yesterday on the event server sadly :)
Short question for Juji. My Lab request, still readable there (http://boards.lineage2.com/showpost.php?p=3346970&postcount=38) has been deleted from the thread.

Does it mean it's doing tested, or just rejected ? If the second I have an other request :Dhttp://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=257992
Is it possiblle to check all stat caps? most of us need to know when something maxes out but i cant find it anywhere. For example, shield defence rate, when does it max? I hear 90 con is full, but i want to be sure for all stats. these stats are invisible in character status in game. So what is max combat stats in all (p/m critical, atk/cs speed, speed, m/p evasion p/m accuracy and shield defence and shield defence rate) and how many stats (con/dex/str/men/wit/int) we need with full iss buffs(standard class harmony) to reach them
Juji , Feoh Wizard Damage test make ?
Juji , Feoh Wizard Damage test make ?

Is this English?

Also Juji. Do you have any idea what the effects of the armor/weapon buffs from turtle. The description is vague and I can't tell if the effects from the turtle buffs are any better than Maestro buffs which actually detail their effects.
those should be the same..
They are the same or perhaps a bit more effective. My Maestro's buffs don't apply if I already have the turtle buffs. I guess the vice-versa applies, but I need to test it first.
Awesome ideea. Finally some transparency on how L2 works.
Please test if every update since GOD was released until Valiance update has increased or decreased the player population.

Compare statistics with YOY data and post the results.

I'm sure we'd all love to know.
looking for chance of getting whale oil from whales when you open them from fishing

like open around 1,000

then if no oly try 10,000 i think its bugged :/
Would love to a see a test with the opening of 10,000 boxes you get from the chaos fragment quest in hellbound...

so far i've only seen demonic tomes and bloodied tomes...

Im interested if there are any "rare" items that are attainable.
any way to test the max skill crit damage by any tyr with any setup on a fixed npc and then reveal what the setup is?
Testing: Quest rewards from "Retrieving the Chaos Fragment" via NPC Leona Blackbird in Hellbound.
Question: Please give us an understanding of the quest rewards at different levels of items turned in. 100 (minimum) to say 5000 fragments turned in. The rewards are different depending on the amount turned in. What is the max amount to receive max reward?
Reason: The quest rewards aren't known. Need to know if it is worth it to complete daily.
Testing: using blessed enchant armor (r-grade) scroll and blessed high-grade lucky enchant stones on dark eternal armor to get it to +8 and getting the part to +8 without stones.(sample of 100 if possible)
Question: Can you please test BEAR and new stones on dark eternal armor part and try to get it to +8
Reason: We of course know that this is part of luck, but I am interested how big is the difference of getting your golden armor compared to using just BEAR :)
Testing: Ekimus/Tiat/Beleth drop chance
Question: Can you please test the drop rates of this bosses?
Reason: We of course know that this is part of luck, but I am interested how big is the chance to get any of the new bracelets. And if anything else useful drops from them.
Testing: using blessed enchant armor (r-grade) scroll and blessed high-grade lucky enchant stones 30% chance and the enchant shirt at +7 to get +6 and +8 on r99 armors (sample of 100 if possible)
Question: Can you please test BEAR and new stones + enchant shirt +7 to try to get it to +6 and +8
Reason: wanna know my chances of getting +6 and +8 armor :D
test rate of success on new scroll of blessed armor/weapons for all grades

why? because everyone I have tried has failed!

is the success rate higher or lower based on + of armor or weapon?

+8 99 armor

+15 r grade weapon
It's 5% success rate, if I got what are you talking about right.
Vood check the Wintermelon event rewards, those scrolls are the only 100% bless scrolls, any with an armor/weapon symbol on the icon and armor/weapon in the description are 5% chance ones

http://www.lineage2.com/en/news/events/wintermelon-wonderland.php

Scroll of Blessing (R(1)-grade)
Scroll of Blessing (R(2)-grade)
Scroll of Blessing (R95-grade)
Scroll of Blessing (R99-grade)

btw pm me when you get an R95 one ;)
Thanks, I feel duped. But thats the only way ncsoft west can make money I guess, from misleading their clients.

Or by having ******s for clients like me who fall for their inaccuracies.
i just reached 95 on dual class and made my test on my own so i would like to show u the results! the test is about skill: Dual - Light of Protection Lv. 1 with a help of a friend to see when this passive is been activated! ALL TESTS DONE WITH B GRADE WEAPONS FOR LOW DAMAGE

15 duels:
Iss Sword Muse 95 vs Feoh Storm Screamer 92
(in all duels iss wasn't hitting! only feoh did)

Results:
Skill activated 4 times (in 4 different matches)
Duel 1: activated when HP was almost 10%
Duel 3: activated when HP started decreasing
Duel 7: activated when HP started decreasing
Duel 12: when CP started decreasing

10 duels:
Iss Sword Muse 95 vs Feoh Storm Screamer 92
(in all duels i was hitting! feoh was giving 4% reflect from Freya's Necklace! Feoh wasn't hitting!)

Results:
Skill activated 2 times in the same match
Duel 3: when i started hitting feoh with the first 4% reflect back skill activated! skill activated 10 secs later once more!

Reason of test was to check if working on reflect also! actually skill activating like that also because Iss got damage back from reflect!

was testing for me but i think good to share!
This is not a place to request lab tests. The lab request thread will be opened on January 6, 2014. Sorry for the delay.
Request thread now open for new tests.
Juji, are you planning to continue with the tests any time soon?

Thanks.
Juji, are you planning to continue with the tests any time soon?

Thanks.I'm still working on them, but I have been quite busy lately. I did a few of the Raid Boss tests last week.

http://boards.lineage2.com/forumdisplay.php?f=279
Juji could you test the probability of having a 4+ rapier proc its special ability and give a percentage?
Juji could you test the probability of having a 4+ rapier proc its special ability and give a percentage?Around 30-40 critical attacks should proc the +4 Rapier special ability. This does not include normal attacks (only criticals), so if you have around 500 critical rate expect it to proc at around 70 hits.
Around 30-40 critical attacks should proc the +4 Rapier special ability. This does not include normal attacks (only criticals), so if you have around 500 critical rate expect it to proc at around 70 hits.

Thanks Juji.

The bonus then seems really only good if you can somehow stack max critical and close to max atk. spd. to make it frequent. So much for attempting to revive the use of Rapier.
Thanks Juji.

The bonus then seems really only good if you can somehow stack max critical and close to max atk. spd. to make it frequent. So much for attempting to revive the use of Rapier.The rapier was almost brought back when they were working on GD, but it seems like they scrapped those plans :(
Does The 7 Signs elements and everything stack with insanity tails or only with Longing??
The rapier was almost brought back when they were working on GD, but it seems like they scrapped those plans :(

It could had been interesting if they made a Rapier mechanic with a hypothetical Iss Judicator class. I would have definitely jumped on board for that.