best weapon!!

Tyrr Warrior Started Last reply 27 posts
what best weapon and sa for:

pve single target with sa:
mass pvp with sa:
pvp single target with sa:
oly with sa :

and one more question, i see much tyrrs in oly using pole for attack any class, why ??


ty for all help.
what best weapon and sa for:

pve single target with sa:
mass pvp with sa:
pvp single target with sa:
oly with sa :

and one more question, i see much tyrrs in oly using pole for attack any class, why ??


ty for all help.

Pff.. that will depend on what you do exactly.. IMHO.. I go for damage output.. so Blessed weapon + Crit + damage/haste is a must!

As for poles.. they drain HP.. or the tyrr can have no other weapon.
they have more skill power with pole on some skills, anyway, good tyrs dont use pole in oly ...
Duals - pvp
Slasher - pve

pvp and pve need diferent builds to be eficient.
Hero bow+infinity :D
Hero bow+infinity :D

Tyrr with Bow? hahaha nice boy
Two handed blunt.
Two handed blunt.

what about dual rapier swords?
what about dual rapier swords?

If only they existed...
If only they existed...

You don't have one? They are close to the coolness factor of a Dual Pole :D
Since P. Attack is irrelevant in relation to skill damage would a sword/shield combo be viable for PvP?
It's not irrelevant.
Dual two handed blunt.
It's not irrelevant.

Well maybe I am reading/understanding this test that Juji did wrong:

http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=242409

But it appears that P. Attack is realistically irrelevant since the corresponding increase in skill damage compared to p. attack was extremely small.

For example, an increase in P Attack of 1800 only resulted in 500 more damage. 500 more skill damage is not inconsequential but I also don't think that the P. Attack difference between a 1 handed weapon and 2 handed/duals would equal 1800 (assuming same grade/enchant value).
Mega-strike is a Momentum skill, which is mostly afected by momentum charges and slightly by p.atk.

Not all skills are momentum on tyrr.

On L2 there's 3 type of physical dmg skills:
-The Blow skills;
-The Momentum skills;
-The Normal skills.

And all these have diferent ways of direct dmg. So that test not to be taken in general to all skills..
Mega-strike is a Momentum skill, which is mostly afected by momentum charges and slightly by p.atk.

ISS does not have momentum skills.

On L2 there's 3 type of physical dmg skills:
-The Blow skills;
-The Momentum skills;
-The Normal skills.

And all these have diferent ways of direct dmg. So that test is irrelevant for this class.

Ahh, I understand, what we have here is a case of "I have 3k+ post so I know everything."

Let me go ahead and point out a few glaringly OBVIOUS facts about this thread and the one I linked.

FIRST, this is a discussion about Tyrrs and what weapon they should use.

SECOND, Iss has not been mentioned in this discussion, AT ALL.

THIRD, the test I linked was about the relation between TYRR skills and P. Attack.

FOURTH, the test I linked included a second test were momentum WAS NOT
used.

Did I miss anything?
What has my post count anything to do with this?
Some attempt to provoke me or?

Kids these days are rly ungrateful.

And i changed the ISS part before you even answered Last edited by Yunalesca (http://boards.lineage2.com/posthistory.php?p=3315151); Today at 11:11 AM.

Doesn't change my initial point and doesn' change the fact you're a kid with no manners to reply.

But you know what?

Go ahead, use S grade fists with elements till 99. Cause acording to that test p.atk. doesnt matter. :D
What has my post count anything to do with this?
Some attempt to provoke me or?

Kids these days are rly ungrateful.

And i changed the ISS part before you even answered Last edited by Yunalesca (http://boards.lineage2.com/posthistory.php?p=3315151); Today at 11:11 AM.

Doesn't change my initial point and doesn' change the fact you're a kid with no manners to reply.

But you know what?

Go ahead, use S grade fists with elements till 99. Cause acording to that test p.atk. doesnt matter. :D

Ahh, I get it now, what we have here is a case of "I made a mistake and instead of owning up to it and trying to address the question at hand I will dodge the question and call you a kid, because I have 3k posts."

Incidentally, you did not edit your post until after I replied or else my quote would not show your initial mistake.

Who said anything about fist? BUT I have seen a few Tyrrs using OE'ed Tall*Dle for PvP and oly for the bonus BECAUSE.........wait for it.......P.Attack doesn't significantly increase damage. Crazy huh?

And in regards to your "initial" point, it very much changes whether someone should (or could) use something other than dual swords if P. Attack doesn't effect skill damage.

Kids and their inability to think outside the box, sad really :(.
Wow, nubcakes these days on L2.
@op
you kinda answered your own question. unless you have a weapon that gives you 30k+ p.atk, the damage increase using skills is not significant and the bonus from s-grade duals are far greater than the little damage difference in pvp. but for example in pve on bosses, where the most damage done is by auto attack, the p.atk of the weapon, adding counter crit and bear and w/e you have does count very much. you have to carry more weapons.
Wow, nubcakes these days on L2.

Says the troll that literally post in every single current thread on these boards with worthless input....
whell i am a little confused..

but lets start..

1.- PVP: Dual s + pvp is enought??? until u can afford r95 dual + 2SA?
2.- For PVE pole or 2 hand sword

that is correct?

i have some adena but i am confused what wep i should buy.. anyway 95 to 99 gonna be a long journal.

ty guys.
Well,
the overenchanted S duals (300 attribute) are fine for pvp, because of their HP/MP/CP bonus.
But on the 95 lvl i found out that the p.atk of these weapons is really low compared to R95 weapons (until you have duals at least +10+++).

Yea, duals are the best pvp weapon because of the health SA nothing more.
Im personally using Ron dual blunts (the low crit rate doesnt matter in pvp) and there is little bonus on skill power if you enchant it to +4 and the price is very low compared to other R95 weapons.

About PVE...
Pole is must and for single target 2H sword is great choice (focus+haste SA).
If you have right setup (jewels, accessory with pendant, dyes, augment) you can reach almost 500 crit with bear totem...
Anyway duals are not bad too... So if you cant afford 2 single target weapons it should be fine.
Current topic aside, this Sprocket guy is starting to grow on me.

PS. Yuna and Heir, no its not an alter ego of mine.
I added a new test for Tyrr Weapons with DPS and raw damage output.

http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=254479

Well maybe I am reading/understanding this test that Juji did wrong:

http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=242409

But it appears that P. Attack is realistically irrelevant since the corresponding increase in skill damage compared to p. attack was extremely small.

For example, an increase in P Attack of 1800 only resulted in 500 more damage. 500 more skill damage is not inconsequential but I also don't think that the P. Attack difference between a 1 handed weapon and 2 handed/duals would equal 1800 (assuming same grade/enchant value).I actually plan to re-visit that test since I found some new and more accurate ways to do tests.
I use dual tallun-dle lightning +15, not bad for pvp and oly.