Discussion: Ertheia Patch Notes

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Please use this thread for discussion about the Ertheia Patch Notes (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=266640)

(http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=262643)DO NOT go off-topic or derail the thread with new information from the next update.

Q: Does this mean that PtA dimensional awards that have not been retrieved from the Dimensional Merchant before the Ertheia update will be deleted?
A: No, they will not be deleted from the Dimensional Merchant.

Q: Am I wrong or I didn't read the adena nerf anywhere?
No adena sink just yet !
A: The Adena nerf was in the original Korean patches, but we asked them to remove it for our version :D

Q: Drop ALWAYS 1 Rune stone or mostly?
A: From what I saw in testing, the Rune Stones dropped every time.

Q: What about sub class skills ?? The ertheias will get 4 only?
A: Ertheia only get dual class skills. They don't have sub-classes, so they cannot get the skills.

Q: A sort of quick cast, where the skill is used on the spot the mouse is hovering on instead of being forced to click on it, or what?

Also, is Dimensional Barrier working correctly (on other regions it's said to be bugged on the 2nd floor, where invisible walls prevent players from progressing through it)?
A: First time you use the skill in a macro, click the location, and then use the macro it will cast it in the same location as before. Does not work when out of range from spot.

We didn't run into that issue with the invisible walls in the Dimensional Barrier.

Q:
1) What is the maximum amount of buffs Dreadful Roar can take?
2) Is it true that Dreadful Roar can take buffs like Divine Elixir / Rosy Seduction
3) What is the behavior of the Cancel effect, does it attack the last buffs on the stack or a random set from the entire stack.
A:
1. We got 2 buffs max.
2. It cannot take those buffs away.
3. From what I've seen, it's random.

Q: Will the 3rd Liberated Ertheia, so 85+, be able to use the Sayunes?
A: Ertheia can use Sayunes at level 85.

Q: What does dismantling boss jewels do as stated in the notes?
A: You cannot dismantle boss jewels. For that patch note, it is showing which bosses drop the pouches for weapon and armor.

Q: Could you tell us a little more about this change to item drops for NPCs/Raid Bosses?
A: Item Drops on certain Raid Bosses changed: Crafting Packs for Weapons and Armor were added, Unbind Scrolls removed, Legendary Dyes removed, Rune Stones added, and Monster Appearance Stones Added. There's much more information on it, but I need to dig through all the raid bosses drop tables for that. I'll redo my labs to reflect the changes.

Q: What about of cubic and fairy of life, or mark of lumi and hex cubic (still buged or is a correct implementation)?
A: No changes. Fairy of Life and Hex Cubic are working as intended.

Q: There are no new skills for othells :/ and will we be able to sellect kamael subclasses ?
A: Kamael can select any sub-class now except dominator, maestro, and Ertheia classes. Other races cannot select the Kamael classes (ex: Judicator) as their sub-class.

Q: For Tyrr Maestro the new Passive "Superior Blunt Weapon Mastery" affect when equipped with dual blunts? Also with the "Power Hammer Crush" can activate with dual blunts? Now with that new skills is better to take blunt rather Two-Handed sword/Dual Swords?
A:
1. Superior Blunt Weapon Mastery - Only improves stats with one-handed blunt equipped.
2. Power Hammer Crush - Only can be used with one-handed blunt equipped.

Q: Do we get the rumoured unification of Olympiad Tokens and Mysterious Marks?
A: No, the Olympiad Tokens and Mysterious Marks are still separate.

Q: The skill Distortion makes all damage done by the Ertheia fighter bypass cp?
A: It does not bypass CP. It just makes it so that damage dealt is the same as attacking someone from behind, even if you're in front or to the side of them.

Q: O, nice. Devil's Isle changes. But... what level limits, what kind of changes. Do mobs drop herbs? Is it an XP or SP region? What will happen to the lower level raids on Devil's Isle? Is Pailaka affected? Is Zaken affected?
A: They removed all the mobs from the area, so it is empty for now. Zaken and Pailaka were not affected.

Q: So, how does this work? Notes are fussy. When I dismantle e.g. Apocalyse Slasher do I get a crafting pack in return, like the drops from open field raids or do I get just a bunch of materials and the recipe?
A: You get a crafting pack after you dismantle.

Q: Does this mean mobs will start spoiling key parts again? Like being able to spoil e.g. Eternal Tunic parts from mobs in HF/Pagan/HB or will it just stay a 1/500 drop only in Cemetary?
A: No, I'll give an example to clarify it a bit. EX: Mobs in Pagan's Temple will now drop Amaranthine Fragments and random R99 (100%) Recipes.

Q: Does this affect Fortuna, Spezion, Altar of Shilien as well? Do they start dropping weapons (Spezion Claw, Ron's Duals, Malliss' Stormer) again?
A: Yes, Crafting Packs for weapons/armor have been added for Raid Bosses now. It looks like the Altar of Shilen bosses did not have any drop changes though. The raid boss weapons will not be added back to the drop tables. The devs created the Monster Weapon appearance stones instead and added it to other raid bosses like Tauti. However, for those boss weapon appearances you mentioned they can only be purchased from the L2 Store.

Q: Are Elcyum Powders (and related Elcyum items) being dropped from more than just mobs in raid instances (Spezion, Fortuna, Baylor, Crystal Caverns) or does supply stays as low as it is while Alchemy system requires another big load of 'em?
A: The powders still only drop from the raid bosses in instances.

Q: Juji has the success rate for applying PVE/PVP enhancements to R99 weapons/armors changed or it remains at 60% as per you Lab?
A: I need to check if there was a change to the success rate.

Q: What about additional material requirements (Gemstone R/Giant's Energies etc.). Has the needed amount remained the same and if not has it increased or decreased?
A: Ingredient requirements have stayed the same.

Q: If i have an B grade weapon +10 it would be have a purple graphical effect? what about S/s80? an s80 +12 have reddish purple graphical effect?
A: Yes, the +10 B weapon will be purple and the +12 S/S80 will have reddish purple.

Q: The "Eminent Blunt Weapon Mastery" that Ertheia wizards get, is it both for 2-handed and 1-handed blunts?
A: Both.

Q: Question- as I saw they got tauti weapon improvements in Korea, 10% p.attack 15% pvp attack bonus, I didn't see any of that in the patch notes so we wont get it with this update?
A: No, the improvements to the Tauti weapons are not in our patch.

Q: You also mentioned improvement in sp from mobs in pagan temple and some other spots, also something about sp improvement in kartia? could you elaborate just how big is the improvement?
A: The SP improved in the following areas:
Pagan's Temple - Increased by 75 ~ 87%
Cemetery - Increased by 62 ~ 85%
Land of Chaos - Increased by 70%
Raider's Crossroads - Increased by 70%
Seed of Hellfire - Increased by 85%
Kartia - Increased by 85%

Q: The Kamael race can now select the classes of other races as their sub-class. Gender Change Service Rules & Requirements. The Gender Change Service is not available to Kamael characters, due to their gender-specific classes. In this update we will be able to change kamael ?
A: No update to the gender change service. There are still restrictions in place for male/female Kamael classes.

Q: Superior Instinct Mastery : Lv.4: PvP damage + 15%, and P. Atk. + 15% when equipped with a crossbow. Full bonus work only with crossbow? or crossbow bonus extra is only this 15% p.atk.?
Whit bow trickster's will take 15% pvp damage too?
A: The P. Atk. stats do not increase if you equip a bow for this passive skill. The PvP damage +15% bonus will still apply when a bow is equipped.

Q: The Tyrr Doombringer new Skill Berserker Soul is a toogle or a buff?
It says on the notes on 1st time you see it that it does not need rune stones to learn or use; Then on skill changes it shows that asks 4 to 8 rune stones to learn? So what is the deal? It only helps using 2h and 1h or can do it with duals too?
A: You need rune stones to learn per skill level. You don't need Rune Stones to use the skill. Berserker Soul is a toggle.

Q: As R95 gear is going to be removed from the oly npc, is anything going to be added as reward? Also, will the amount of required oly tokens needed for R99 gear be changed?
A: Nothing added to equipment rewards and I saw no changes to Oly tokens needed for R99.

Q: What about changing minimum players required to enter istina/octavis normal from 14 to 7?
A: No change.

Q: Hi Juji! How much is max level on main/dual class/sub class in new update?
A: Still the same as before. 99/99/80/80.

Q: For Tyrr Maestros, Does the new skill "Superior Blunt Weapon Mastery" Stack with the already existing skill "Superior Weapon Mastery" ?
A: Yes, these two skills stack.

Q: The Kamael race can equip heavy armor/robes, no matter the level or class. does this means that will be a new look for heavy/robe armors (below R grade) on kamaels? is there any pic about that? or they will look the same as the light armor sets??
A: Not really, they will just have a different armor skins for Heavy armor for below R-Grade.

Q: Juji, what about Sealed ap 16-20 ?
A: Not available in this update.

Q: Can you please clarify about tattoos-symbols. Will we have new improved mixed one (STR+CHA) only based on legendary lv. 5 or based on other symbols (Ancient, Giants) as well ?
A: You will have improved Legendary dyes from Lv.1 to Lv. 5. No Ancient or Giant Dyes.

Q: can you elaborate on this? it doesn't make much sense.
Also, somewhere in the patch notes it states that it will take giant's energy to reseal longing talismans. How many will it take?
A: If you learn Frenzy or Guts Lv. 6 it will remove Duelist Spirit.

72 Energy of Destruction and 200 Giant's Energy to reseal Longing Talisman.

Q: this mean dual class will start at lvl 85 or i read bad this ? because my english its not pretty good can u answer this please thanks
A: At level 85, Ertheia can take a dual class quest and it will automatically bump their dual class to level 85. No sub-class leveling required.

Q: so the question is: will there be an Ancient or normal Giant's Symbols like STR+Charisma, CON+Charisma, CON+Luck, etc. too ? or only Legendary ?
A: Only the new Legendary Dyes (Regular STAT + LUC or CHA) and Windy Dyes (LUC + CHA).

Q: Will the M. Critical Chance remain capped at 33% (instead of 50%) for heals and magic attacks? (as was indicated at "Lab Report 7 - M. Critical Rate") http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=266108 (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=266108)
A: I will send them a reminder on the M. Critical Rate chance.

Q: Wynn Arcana Lord : Summon Protection Stone : Summons a giant shaman stone to temporarily increase party's abilities.

Question: What abilities? Could you give a list.
A:
http://i.imgur.com/FpEqJhQ.jpg

Q: I see the Gravity Exile skill is a new revelation skill we can take that blocks resurrection skills, do you know if they fixed the Clan Resurrection Lock to use personal fame instead of clan CRP ?
A: It uses Clan Reputation points, not personal fame.

Q: Can you clarify the new summoner skills mores.

Especially the Pony one. is it a portal you place somewhere and then can move to later. Is it a pty gate chant? What exactly does it do.

Are dark stones going to start dropping in Hellbound?
A: It works similar to the Sayha shirt teleport skill. You summon a portal that lasts 30 seconds and then you can teleport back to that portal with another skill. There is a limit as to how far you can be from the portal to use the teleport skill.

Dark Eternal Stone Fragments drop in Hellbound from Mirage Vipers (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=263357).

Q: Does it mean that there will be a whole new Drop/Spoil for every hunting area?
Do you have any info about what should we expect so far?
A: I need to check.

Q: does activating luck require special events or it can trigger anytime
How long does it lasts ?
A: Not really, you just need to hunt/spoil mobs. When LUC triggers while hunting, you get a message and a Fortune Pocket. If you are crafting/enchanting, then a big 4 leaf clover will appear when LUC triggers. The higher LUC you have, the better chance that more Lady Luck activations will appear.

Q: Hi, stone of destiny will be back ?
A: No.

Q:
1. Does the Eviscerator get an aura buff? I see one for the Sayha Seer in the notes but not for the Eviscerator
2. The notes say that the Eviscerator's Battle Dash was changed to last longer, since the list of skills doesn't mention any Battle Dash, does this mean that there are skills that aren't shown in the notes? Or is Battle Dash a rename of Eminent Attack Movement?
A:
1. P. Skill Critical Rate +1%.
2. Battle Dash is a speed buff that activates with the Eminent Attack Movement passive.

Q: Will toons be moved to nearest town after update ?
A: No.

Q: I've relied on these quests to level my subs bit by bit. Can non-Ertheia races do the new Ertheia daily quests in place of these?

Is the Rocking Horse Mount coming back to the L2 Store? I didn't appreciate the fact that it was removed without notice.
A: No, those quests are for Ertheia only.

The Rocking Horse mount is dimensional, so you can create a new character and trade it to your old one on your same account. The mount probably won't be back on the store since you can get it now for free.

Q: Anyone from behind the servers, How many megabytes does this new update add to the current client. ty
A: The update from Valiance to Ertheia is around 511mb. The full client size is 17.7gb.

Q: Now, what i have not understood at all, is: WHICH Subclass (or i must say dualclass?) Ertheia CAN make and CANNOT make? On the patch notes there is only a tiny pharagraph about it and it's not specified at all...
A: It actually is specified. I said they can have any class as their dual class except for Iss Dominator, Tyrr Maestro, and any Ertheia classes. Notice in the screenshot of the dual class re-awakening menu below that the Ertheia classes are absent.

http://i.imgur.com/CveTUQ9.jpg

Q: In the description of the skills of ertheia wizard, for the passive skill of the weapon says it is possible to enable the use of a sword or blunt, but the description of the active skills says just mentioning, when used with a blunt; just wonder if there is lack of information in the description? (I refer to the use of the sword)
A: Sayha's Seer can use 1-handed swords (magic/fighter), 1-handed blunts (magic/fighter), and 2-handed blunts (magic/fighter).

Q: In the case of ertheia wizard can be considered as weapon, the use of an one-hand blunt or two-handed blunt weapon? or both? they have their value assigned in the passive skill?
A: All active skills work with the weapons I mentioned above.

Q: In both classes, both Ertheia Figher as Ertheia Wizard, all skills described, will be kept when taking level up? (saying about transfer class a.k.a doing 1st, 2nd and 3rd liberations). In other words, if any skill will be Replaced while transfering class? If yes, which one could mention? I can not say whether the advanced Korean servers and their updates will be possible to enchant or over-enchant those skills in the future, so I'm curious.
A: The skills remain for both Ertheia classes. There are no replacement skills similar to the other non-Ertheia classes.

Q: Since two new revelation skill will be added, I wonder if there will wipe the current revelation skills that has already been learned? or will be added more chaos pormander's ?
A: There shouldn't be a wipe for revelation skills and no Chaos Pomander will be given.

Q: On the same reasoning of the previous question, if there wipe the skills sub-class and dual-class as well as the ability system that already learned? I'll have to re-learn them again when ertheia lauches? And the fishing skills already learned, will wipe to be learned again?
A: These skills will not be wiped. The Knight Frenzy skill that is deleted will be compensated with Immortal Scrolls (based on enchant level).

Q: How much data (in gigabytes) will be added with the expansion Ertheia compared to Valiance?
A: Around 511mb.

Q: I got 1 question ,dont know if missed it while i was reading the patch notes,that regards to the raid points.Will it be some sort of new bracelet that will give +3 of the newly introduced stats aka LUC/CHA ?
A: No, the Aria NPC does not have any new bracelets for the new stats. However, there are new bracelets with the LUC/CHA stats from the dimensional barrier instance.

Q: Will someone that already has a character, for example Human Male, be able to make an Ertheia class Eviscerator or Sayha's Seer as a Dualclass? And if yes, how? Any new quest? paying 100kk adena if you already have a Dualclass? Free change of Dualclass as when Goddess Of Destruction came out because it is a whole new race/classes?Thank you.
A: No one can make an Ertheia class as your dual class. The Ertheia classes are restricted to your main class.

Q: I have two armor sets ready for my future Ertheia character: one with maid outfit appearance and the other with swimsuit appearance. Will I be able to equip them?
A: No, you will get a message saying your Ertheia character is not eligible to equip the armor sets.

Q: Since we got a lot of changes in classes.
in this update, chars will receive chaos Essence?
A: No chaos essence will be given out.

Q: Does the new enchant glows apply to D-S80 weapons too?
A: Yes, the new enchant glows apply to all grades. Unfortunately, anyone that has an old +15 No-grade weapon from the auction broker will lose their glow completely.

Q: About tauti wepons can we put Augment and Enchant weapon or not?
A: You cannot enchant or put an augment on Tauti weapons.
P.S. Ertheia isn't a "class" but a "race" :p
You dont get any more a party bounse for have 7 in party? or it same as it is now?
You dont get any more a party bounse for have 7 in party? or it same as it is now?

Current bonus remains for 7 member party count but the bonus has been improved for parties of 2 ~ 6.
Don't like the format this is in rather it had just been posted on the forums. reading pdf files in win 8 is annoying. =.='
Get normal PDF reader then. And no, I don't mean Adobe Reader.
Though, to be prefectly honest, I'd rather prefer patch notes in a format suitable for reading (epub, fb2... html even) rather than printing (PDF).
P.S. Ertheia isn't a "class" but a "race" :p
Fixed ;)
For Tyrr Maestro the new Passive "Superior Blunt Weapon Mastery" affect when equipped with dual blunds? Also with the "Power Hammer Crush" can activate with dual blunds? Now with that new skills is better to take blunt rather Two-Handed sword/Dual Swords?
There are no new skills for othells :/ and will we be able to sellect kamael subclasses ?
with the rune stones for the new skills will it be everyone in the raid will get one or will only one drop from each boss and you have to choose who gets it
Both costs you write?
if so I offer to write in Spanish. fence god

Tanto os cuesta escribir ?
si es así me ofrezco a escribirlo en español. valla por dios

:confused:
Juji What about of cubic and fairy of life, or mark of lumi and hex cubic (still buged or is a correct implementation)
with the rune stones for the new skills will it be everyone in the raid will get one or will only one drop from each boss and you have to choose who gets it
It will drop a few like any other drop it will be up to who ever in your party to hand it out.
It will drop a few like any other drop it will be up to who ever in your party to hand it out.This. Only 1 drops though.

Juji What about of cubic and fairy of life, or mark of lumi and hex cubic (still buged or is a correct implementation)No changes. Fairy of Life and Hex Cubic are working as intended.

There are no new skills for othells :/ and will we be able to sellect kamael subclasses ?Kamael can select any sub-class now except dominator, maestro, and Ertheia classes. Other races cannot select the Kamael classes (ex: Judicator) as their sub-class.
For Tyrr Maestro the new Passive "Superior Blunt Weapon Mastery" affect when equipped with dual blunds? Also with the "Power Hammer Crush" can activate with dual blunds? Now with that new skills is better to take blunt rather Two-Handed sword/Dual Swords?

1. Superior Blunt Weapon Mastery - Only improves stats with one-handed blunt equipped.
2. Power Hammer Crush - Only can be used with one-handed blunt equipped.
reading...
still reading...

but...
Forest of the dead mobs no longer using Hold skill?
what else is nightmare armor for?
what is this preschool? next you'll take away silence.

i don't know how i feel about the improvements of the quest arrow...
will have to see how well it works following the update.

i know it's fixed...
but buffs given to pets multiple times?
i don't remember that being a bug, coulda been useful.
This made me laugh:


The enchantment rates of magic weapons have been dramatically increased.



So many friends either quit their characters or the game after popping their mage weapon trying +4. I guess I should invite them to come back?


Although "dramatically increased" is a relative term.
does activating luck require special events or it can trigger anytime fighting, chatting, sleeping, selling stuff in private store, flying on a boat (or sailing lol)
How long does it lasts ?
Question regarding Dimensional Merch/Path of Awakening awards.


Does this mean that PoA dimensional awards that have not been retrieved from the Dimensional Merchant before the Ertheia update will be deleted?
This made me laugh:






So many friends either quit their characters or the game after popping their mage weapon trying +4. I guess I should invite them to come back?


Although "dramatically increased" is a relative term.Not a big dramatic change actually. It has slightly increased.
Am I wrong or I didn't read the adena nerf anywhere?

No adena sink just yet !
Whats the difference in the new Tyrr Dreadnought skill: Dreadful Roar?
Lv. 1 - Lv. 3 say all that it cancel at least 1 buff of nearby enemies.
Does it mean its 100% that one buff get canceled and the lvl means the chance is higher to cancel more?
Drop ALWAYS 1 Rune stone or mostly?
Not a big dramatic change actually. It has slightly increased.
Welcome back from vacations juji, finally the 1/3 chance should've been increased long time ago

Although on skill fixes, there's no fix for feoh unleash hell, while the skill always fail on pvp you always do 120-150 damage even on magic crit.
Not a big dramatic change actually. It has slightly increased.


Thanks for clarifying. There are going to be lots of people who think "dramatically increased" means "almost guaranteed a successful enchant."

Slightly increased is something altogether different. Good thing we straightened that out.


By the way, I'm just going to throw this idea out there: purple should have been the new red. Instead I get stuck with a red weapon, while someone with only a +10 gets the cool purple glow. Sigh. I guess you can't win them all.
When using skills where a location has to be set such as 'Shadow Snare’ and ‘Poison Zone’, it has been set so that the skill is used automatically on the location that is set.
A sort of quick cast, where the skill is used on the spot the mouse is hovering on instead of being forced to click on it, or what?

Also, is Dimensional Barrier working correctly (on other regions it's said to be bugged on the 2nd floor, where invisible walls prevent players from progressing through it)?
What about sub class skills ?? The ertheias will get 4 only?
Why do we need rune stones to learn skill? To boost instance passes sale? And one for each boss only lel. GJ on encouraging even more botting
First, thank you for posting the patch notes!




The items that the NPCs drop in all hunting zones have been changed.
The items that the raid bosses drop have been changed.



Could you tell us a little more about this change?
Maybe an example to show how it changes.
Thanks again.
What about sub class skills ?? The ertheias will get 4 only?
Ertheias don't get subclass skills, unless you wanted to ask if they can take the subclass certs for the skipped out 40-80 levels on their dual. Which is something I'm wondering myself...


Also, another question: do we get the rumoured unification of Olympiad Tokens and Mysterious Marks?
Why do we need rune stones to learn skill? To boost instance passes sale? And one for each boss only lel. GJ on encouraging even more botting

I don't quite see how would this encourage botting?
Also L2 used to have spellbooks and skillbooks for skill learning, so it is not surprising to bring that feature back.
Personaly i think it would be a good addition. It makes you to look forward for more drops from instance bosses, they barely drop anything.
Whats the difference in the new Tyrr Dreadnought skill: Dreadful Roar?
Lv. 1 - Lv. 3 say all that it cancel at least 1 buff of nearby enemies.
Does it mean its 100% that one buff get canceled and the lvl means the chance is higher to cancel more?

Also interested in hearing this.

I'd refine the question as in:

1) What is the maximum amount of buffs Dreadful Roar can take?
2) Is it true that Dreadful Roar can take buffs like Divine Elixir / Rosy Seduction
3) What is the behavior of the Cancel effect, does it attack the last buffs on the stack or a random set from the entire stack.
What does dismantling boss jewels do as stated in the notes?

Why would someone dismantle a tauti ring or earth wyrm ring ?
Question: Will the 3rd Liberated Ertheia, so 85+, be able to use the Sayunes? I kind of figure they would but seeing as how the others can only use them because they are awakened with the power of the giants... thought it was worth a query
Question: Will the 3rd Liberated Ertheia, so 85+, be able to use the Sayunes? I kind of figure they would but seeing as how the others can only use them because they are awakened with the power of the giants... thought it was worth a query
In the bugfixes section it's listed that NC fixed some graphical bug of Ertheia characters overlapping with Sayune arrows, so I'd assume that Ertheias can jump like any other race.
Also, another question: do we get the rumoured unification of Olympiad Tokens and Mysterious Marks?I did read something about it but i didn't understood it too much... can you explain it to me into a better way? Because i'm scared to lose all the tokens i have...

Poff.. all of them, that i worked hard to take, are going to be destroyed.. i want really be sure this is not going to happen...
I don't quite see how would this encourage botting?
Also L2 used to have spellbooks and skillbooks for skill learning, so it is not surprising to bring that feature back.
Personaly i think it would be a good addition. It makes you to look forward for more drops from instance bosses, they barely drop anything.

Time gated contents in easy instances with highly desirable drops in large quantities. If that doesn't spell botting I dun know what is
The skill Distortion makes all damage done by the Ertheia fighter bypass cp? hue.
In the bugfixes section it's listed that NC fixed some graphical bug of Ertheia characters overlapping with Sayune arrows, so I'd assume that Ertheias can jump like any other race.

Ahh must has scrolled past it, thanks. It would be kinda dumb to exclude them but you never know
Question regarding Dimensional Merch/Path of Awakening awards.

Does this mean that PoA dimensional awards that have not been retrieved from the Dimensional Merchant before the Ertheia update will be deleted?No, they will not be deleted from the Dimensional Merchant.

Am I wrong or I didn't read the adena nerf anywhere?

No adena sink just yet !That was in the original Korean patches, but we asked them to remove the Adena reduction.

Drop ALWAYS 1 Rune stone or mostly?From what I saw in testing, the Rune Stones dropped every time.

What about sub class skills ?? The ertheias will get 4 only?Ertheia only get dual class skills. They don't have sub-classes, so they cannot get the skills.

A sort of quick cast, where the skill is used on the spot the mouse is hovering on instead of being forced to click on it, or what?

Also, is Dimensional Barrier working correctly (on other regions it's said to be bugged on the 2nd floor, where invisible walls prevent players from progressing through it)?First time you use the skill in a macro, click the location, and then use the macro it will cast it in the same location as before. Does not work when out of range from spot.

We didn't run into that issue with the invisible walls in the Dimensional Barrier.

Also interested in hearing this.

I'd refine the question as in:

1) What is the maximum amount of buffs Dreadful Roar can take?
2) Is it true that Dreadful Roar can take buffs like Divine Elixir / Rosy Seduction
3) What is the behavior of the Cancel effect, does it attack the last buffs on the stack or a random set from the entire stack.1. We got 2 buffs max.
2. It cannot take those buffs away.
3. From what I've seen, it's random.

Question: Will the 3rd Liberated Ertheia, so 85+, be able to use the Sayunes? I kind of figure they would but seeing as how the others can only use them because they are awakened with the power of the giants... thought it was worth a queryErtheia can use Sayunes at level 85.

What does dismantling boss jewels do as stated in the notes?

Why would someone dismantle a tauti ring or earth wyrm ring ?You cannot dismantle boss jewels. For that patch note, it is showing which bosses drop the pouches for weapon and armor.

First, thank you for posting the patch notes!
Could you tell us a little more about this change?
Maybe an example to show how it changes.
Thanks again.
Item Drops on certain Raid Bosses changed: Crafting Packs for Weapons and Armor were added, Unbind Scrolls removed, Legendary Dyes removed, Rune Stones added, and Monster Appearance Stones Added. There's much more information on it, but I need to dig through all the raid bosses drop tables for that. I'll redo my labs to reflect the changes.
Also, another question: do we get the rumoured unification of Olympiad Tokens and Mysterious Marks?

I did read something about it but i didn't understood it too much... can you explain it to me into a better way? Because i'm scared to lose all the tokens i have...

Poff.. all of them, that i worked hard to take, are going to be destroyed.. i want really be sure this is not going to happen...
No, the Olympiad Tokens and Mysterious Marks are still separate.
Thank your for the answers Juji :)
The skill Distortion makes all damage done by the Ertheia fighter bypass cp? hue.

It does not bypass CP. It just makes it so that damage dealt is the same as attacking someone from behind, even if you're in front or to the side of them.

All normal attacks deal backstab damage
Correction on the note there: It's not just normal attacks.
Thanks for the quick replies, Juji. I know things are going to get really hectic for you in the coming week(s).
on the page 8 of the PDF file on the picture about new symbols I see Lv. 5 Legendary Symbols which are created from Legendary STR/CON/etc and new Luck / Charisma. but picture is not complete (scrollbar at the right side)....


so the question is: will there be an Ancient or normal Giant's Symbols like STR+Charisma, CON+Charisma, CON+Luck, etc. too ? or only Legendary ?
Will the M. Critical Chance remain capped at 33% (instead of 50%) for heals and magic attacks? (as was indicated at "Lab Report 7 - M. Critical Rate") http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=266108 (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=266108)


There isn't any mention in Ertheia Patch Notes and as it seems Ertheia get some skills that are M. Critical oriented as well, for example:
"Magic Potential ~ Lv.1: Increases the Max M. Critical Rate cap from 500 to 550.
Eye of the Storm ~ Lv.3: For 30 sec., M. Critical Rate + 100, P./M. Def. + 30%, Knock Back / Knock Down / Pull / Aerial Yoke / Aggression Resistance + 90, and M. Skill MP Consumption -50%."


Feohs don't seem to get any changes from the update but what I consider important is unleashing their full potential as they are now by correcting the M. Critical Rate. Feohs and Sahya's Seers would really benefit from this, I really hope this was/will be taken in consideration for the update.
Wynn Arcana Lord : Summon Protection Stone : Summons a giant shaman stone to temporarily increase party's abilities.

Question: What abilities? Could you give a list.
that was in the original korean patches, but we asked them to remove the adena reduction.

thank you based juji
"Lv.11: When equipped with a fist weapon, P. Atk. + 45% and + 4060, P. Accuracy
+ 8, Atk. Spd. + 10%, Critical Rate + 60, Critical Damage +45%."

Are you ******** me?? Tyrr GK dont get anything near this lmao...
Juji ...



WHAT ABOUT SOULTAKER ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

DO U HATE SOULTAKER THERE'S NOTHING NEW FOR SOULTAKER ?!?!?!
Juji,

I see the Gravity Exile skill is a new revelation skill we can take that blocks resurrection skills, do you know if they fixed the Clan Resurrection Lock to use personal fame instead of clan CRP ?
Can you clarify the new summoner skills mores.

Especially the Pony one. is it a portal you place somewhere and then can move to later. Is it a pty gate chant? What exactly does it do.


Are dark stones going to start dropping in Hellbound?
The items that the NPCs drop in all hunting zones have been changed

Does it mean that there will be a whole new Drop/Spoil for every hunting area?
Do you have any info about what should we expect so far?


Thanks
The graphical color effects for enchant levels of weapons of all grades have been changed


so if i have an B grade weapon +10 it would be have a purple graphical effect? what about S/s80? an s80 +12 have reddish purple graphical effect?
does activating luck require special events or it can trigger anytime
How long does it lasts ?
Can we get an answer for that question?
Juji has the success rate for applying PVE/PVP enhancements to R99 weapons/armors changed or it remains at 60% as per you Lab?

What about additional material requirements (Gemstone R/Giant's Energies etc.).
Has the needed amount remained the same and if not has it increased or decreased?
1. Has anything been done to prevent people from using 3rd party software, mostly in pvp?:confused:
2. Have you modified buff locations for the Clan Advent, so it would not take space from the main 24 buffs?
"Lv.11: When equipped with a fist weapon, P. Atk. + 45% and + 4060, P. Accuracy
+ 8, Atk. Spd. + 10%, Critical Rate + 60, Critical Damage +45%."

Are you ******** me?? Tyrr GK dont get anything near this lmao...



don't forget that this passive can be enchanted.
Juji has the success rate for applying PVE/PVP enhancements to R99 weapons/armors changed or it remains at 60% as per you Lab??

- Yes. It will remain the same, unless you use Elcyum
Devil's Isle
The dimensional energy will flow out as a result of the Seal of Punishment being removed and the dimensional rift getting bigger.
This dimensional energy was affected by the dimensional bubbles, and as this affected Devil's Isle,all the pirates and undead in the island disappeared to somewhere unknown.
O, nice. Devil's Isle changes. But... what level limits, what kind of changes. Do mobs drop herbs? Is it an XP or SP region? What will happen to the lower level raids on Devil's Isle? Is Pailaka affected? Is Zaken affected?

The Gravity Ranker (or w/e the English name is, Escalator?) is it as powerful as it's currently on Korea (latest pre-Infinity Oddyssy patch) or as weak as the Ertheia 1.0 patch in Korea? I've been reading that the class has been changed almost every week, tweaking stats and boosting skills from the start Korea got Ertheia to the moment they got Infinity Oddyssey.

Three recipes that can be used to dismantle R/R95/R99 grade items have been added
So, how does this work? Notes are fussy. When I dismantle e.g. Apocalyse Slasher do I get a crafting pack in return, like the drops from open field raids or do I get just a bunch of materials and the recipe?

The items that the NPCs drop in all hunting zones have been changed.
The items that the raid bosses drop have been changed
1) Does this mean mobs will start spoiling key parts again? Like being able to spoil e.g. Eternal Tunic parts from mobs in HF/Pagan/HB or will it just stay a 1/500 drop only in Cemetary?
2) Does this affect Fortuna, Spezion, Altar of Shilien as well? Do they start dropping weapons (Spezion Claw, Ron's Duals, Malliss' Stormer) again?
3) Are Elcyum Powders (and related Elcyum items) being dropped from more than just mobs in raid instances (Spezion, Fortuna, Baylor, Crystal Caverns) or does supply stays as low as it is while Alchemy system requires another big load of 'em?
"Lv.11: When equipped with a fist weapon, P. Atk. + 45% and + 4060, P. Accuracy
+ 8, Atk. Spd. + 10%, Critical Rate + 60, Critical Damage +45%."

Are you ******** me?? Tyrr GK dont get anything near this lmao...

Try using Wild Roar

Shouts loudly to invoke the power of the Bison. For 5 minutes, P. Atk. and Critical Damage + 45%, Critical Rate + 45, and Atk. Spd. - 15%. Requires a sword, blunt, spear, fist weapon, dual blunt, or dualsword.
don't forget that this passive can be enchanted.

No , it can't be enchanted , ertheia's skills cannot be enchanted :o

Anyway...ertheias looks quite OP...beside that i wonder :

About the skill "Distortion" of the ertheia...if they cannot bypass CP with it ,what they need it for?
Does ertheia land more damages from behind? (like daggers)
Will that mean (for example) that if we've ertheia+dagger and ertheia land distortion on the enemy , dagger damage will get boosted by all the "rear-damage" bonus?With that skill on , bloodstab (only land from behind) will land from front as well?
Hi, stone of destiny will be back ?
The "Eminent Blunt Weapon Mastery" that Ertheia wizards get, is it both for 2-handed and 1-handed blunts?
Hi, stone of destiny will be back ?
or chaos essence? and will it be given to all chars or only to aweken ones?
Hi, stone of destiny will be back ?

or chaos essence? and will it be given to all chars or only to aweken ones?
Why should they be given out? It's not like you can take Ertheia classes without rolling an Ertheia - it's the whole point of race-exclusive classes.
Why should they be given out? It's not like you can take Ertheia classes without rolling an Ertheia - it's the whole point of race-exclusive classes.
i don't want to take ertheia classes xd......
Well, there's nothing game-changing enough to warrant Chaos Essences to be given for free, since they're in the L2Store.

Stones of Destiny were given out because Awakening changed the classes like day and night.
Chaos Essences were given for free to already Awakened characters because they needed a way to choose their specialization after Lindvior went live.
Juji, another question.

With the change of Dragon Valley... will the quest Legendary Tales and the associated raid boss system/quest and reward be changed? Will Large Dragon Bones etc. still drop? Please enlighten.

No , it can't be enchanted , ertheia's skills cannot be enchanted :o

Anyway...ertheias looks quite OP...beside that i wonder :

About the skill "Distortion" of the ertheia...if they cannot bypass CP with it ,what they need it for?
Does ertheia land more damages from behind? (like daggers)
Will that mean (for example) that if we've ertheia+dagger and ertheia land distortion on the enemy , dagger damage will get boosted by all the "rear-damage" bonus?With that skill on , bloodstab (only land from behind) will land from front as well?
Afaik Haseo, the Distortion buff will only make all hits get applied with the damage modifier for hitting in the back. So if you front hit does 1000 dmg, with the buff the front hit does 1250 dmg (i dunno exact modifiers on dmg)
Will the enhanced abilities?
JuJi if "n azi" is a bannable offence why I don't see that word added to the cencored list in the patch notes? Did I get banned for 3 days falsely? :o

And everyone expected some buff on trickster with x-bow and it turns out that just the class passive doesnt work with a bow anymore... So my idea, is there some ninja patch after this to buff the tricksters a bit more or we're stuck with x-bow with not getting skillpower bonuses at +4 and such... Because it's funny how Saggi has M def + P def buff and we get reducesed p.atk dmg thanks to the x-bows
Question- as I saw they got tauti weapon improvements in Korea, 10% p.attack 15% pvp attack bonus, I didn't see any of that in the patch notes so we wont get it with this update?

You also mentioned improvement in sp from mobs in pagan temple and some other spots, also something about sp improvement in kartia? could you elaborate just how big is the improvement?
By the way, I'm just going to throw this idea out there: purple should have been the new red. Instead I get stuck with a red weapon, while someone with only a +10 gets the cool purple glow. Sigh. I guess you can't win them all.


same to me, I don't like that red color, for best weapons there should be something else, even that purple is better
o The Kamael race can now select the classes of other races as their sub-class.

Gender Change Service Rules & Requirements

The Gender Change Service is not available to Kamael characters, due to their gender-specific classes.

I this update we will be able to change kamael ?


Superior Instinct Mastery : Lv.4: PvP damage + 15%, and P. Atk. + 15% when equipped with a crossbow.

Full bonus work only with crossbow? or crossbow bonus extra is only this 15% p.atk.?
Whit bow trickster's will take 15% pvp damage too?
Please use this thread for discussion about the Ertheia Patch Notes (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=266640)

(http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=262643)DO NOT go off-topic or derail the thread with new information from the next update.

Q: Does this mean that PtA dimensional awards that have not been retrieved from the Dimensional Merchant before the Ertheia update will be deleted?
A: No, they will not be deleted from the Dimensional Merchant.

Q: Am I wrong or I didn't read the adena nerf anywhere?
No adena sink just yet !
A: The Adena nerf was in the original Korean patches, but we asked them to remove it for our version :D

Q: Drop ALWAYS 1 Rune stone or mostly?
A: From what I saw in testing, the Rune Stones dropped every time.

Q: What about sub class skills ?? The ertheias will get 4 only?
A: Ertheia only get dual class skills. They don't have sub-classes, so they cannot get the skills.

Q: A sort of quick cast, where the skill is used on the spot the mouse is hovering on instead of being forced to click on it, or what?

Also, is Dimensional Barrier working correctly (on other regions it's said to be bugged on the 2nd floor, where invisible walls prevent players from progressing through it)?
A: First time you use the skill in a macro, click the location, and then use the macro it will cast it in the same location as before. Does not work when out of range from spot.

We didn't run into that issue with the invisible walls in the Dimensional Barrier.

Q:
1) What is the maximum amount of buffs Dreadful Roar can take?
2) Is it true that Dreadful Roar can take buffs like Divine Elixir / Rosy Seduction
3) What is the behavior of the Cancel effect, does it attack the last buffs on the stack or a random set from the entire stack.
A:
1. We got 2 buffs max.
2. It cannot take those buffs away.
3. From what I've seen, it's random.

Q: Will the 3rd Liberated Ertheia, so 85+, be able to use the Sayunes?
A: Ertheia can use Sayunes at level 85.

Q: What does dismantling boss jewels do as stated in the notes?
A: You cannot dismantle boss jewels. For that patch note, it is showing which bosses drop the pouches for weapon and armor.

Q: Could you tell us a little more about this change to item drops for NPCs/Raid Bosses?
A: Item Drops on certain Raid Bosses changed: Crafting Packs for Weapons and Armor were added, Unbind Scrolls removed, Legendary Dyes removed, Rune Stones added, and Monster Appearance Stones Added. There's much more information on it, but I need to dig through all the raid bosses drop tables for that. I'll redo my labs to reflect the changes.

Q: What about of cubic and fairy of life, or mark of lumi and hex cubic (still buged or is a correct implementation)?
A: No changes. Fairy of Life and Hex Cubic are working as intended.

Q: There are no new skills for othells :/ and will we be able to sellect kamael subclasses ?
A: Kamael can select any sub-class now except dominator, maestro, and Ertheia classes. Other races cannot select the Kamael classes (ex: Judicator) as their sub-class.

Q: For Tyrr Maestro the new Passive "Superior Blunt Weapon Mastery" affect when equipped with dual blunts? Also with the "Power Hammer Crush" can activate with dual blunts? Now with that new skills is better to take blunt rather Two-Handed sword/Dual Swords?
A:
1. Superior Blunt Weapon Mastery - Only improves stats with one-handed blunt equipped.
2. Power Hammer Crush - Only can be used with one-handed blunt equipped.

Q: Do we get the rumoured unification of Olympiad Tokens and Mysterious Marks?
A: No, the Olympiad Tokens and Mysterious Marks are still separate.

Q: The skill Distortion makes all damage done by the Ertheia fighter bypass cp?
A: It does not bypass CP. It just makes it so that damage dealt is the same as attacking someone from behind, even if you're in front or to the side of them.

The Tyrr Doombringer new Skill Berserker Soul is a toogle or a buff?
It says on the notes on 1st time you see it that it does not need rune stones to learn or use; Then on skill changes it shows that asks 4 to 8 rune stones to learn? So what is the deal? It only helps using 2h and 1h or can do it with duals too?
o The Kamael race can now select the classes of other races as their sub-class.

Gender Change Service Rules & Requirements

The Gender Change Service is not available to Kamael characters, due to their gender-specific classes.

I this update we will be able to change kamael ?


Superior Instinct Mastery : Lv.4: PvP damage + 15%, and P. Atk. + 15% when equipped with a crossbow.

Full bonus work only with crossbow? or crossbow bonus extra is only this 15% p.atk.?
Whit bow trickster's will take 15% pvp damage too?

Nobody can take kamael classses, we can take all classes as subs, the passivei s FULL crossbow based, with bow it doesnt work... marry x-mas and be happy we got ******! LOng live the kamaels who always get screwed
No , it can't be enchanted , ertheia's skills cannot be enchanted :o

Anyway...ertheias looks quite OP...beside that i wonder :

About the skill "Distortion" of the ertheia...if they cannot bypass CP with it ,what they need it for?
Does ertheia land more damages from behind? (like daggers)
Will that mean (for example) that if we've ertheia+dagger and ertheia land distortion on the enemy , dagger damage will get boosted by all the "rear-damage" bonus?With that skill on , bloodstab (only land from behind) will land from front as well?

Im pretty sure you crit more often when attacking from behind, that goes for any class I believe.
I have two more questions though.

1. Does the Eviscerator get an aura buff? I see one for the Sayha Seer in the notes but not for the Eviscerator
2. The notes say that the Eviscerator's Battle Dash was changed to last longer, since the list of skills doesn't mention any Battle Dash, does this mean that there are skills that aren't shown in the notes? Or is Battle Dash a rename of Eminent Attack Movement?
No , it can't be enchanted , ertheia's skills cannot be enchanted :o

Anyway...ertheias looks quite OP...beside that i wonder :

About the skill "Distortion" of the ertheia...if they cannot bypass CP with it ,what they need it for?
Does ertheia land more damages from behind? (like daggers)
Will that mean (for example) that if we've ertheia+dagger and ertheia land distortion on the enemy , dagger damage will get boosted by all the "rear-damage" bonus?With that skill on , bloodstab (only land from behind) will land from front as well?

+20% damage with normal and critical hits as well as 20% more accuracy for 60 seconds. I believe it may increase the amount of critical hits you do as well but I'm not sure, ask Juji.

Hi, stone of destiny will be back ?

No.

The "Eminent Blunt Weapon Mastery" that Ertheia wizards get, is it both for 2-handed and 1-handed blunts?

I believe only two-handed but you can always try for yourself next week.

or chaos essence? and will it be given to all chars or only to aweken ones?

No.

I have two more questions though.

1. Does the Eviscerator get an aura buff? I see one for the Sayha Seer in the notes but not for the Eviscerator
2. The notes say that the Eviscerator's Battle Dash was changed to last longer, since the list of skills doesn't mention any Battle Dash, does this mean that there are skills that aren't shown in the notes? Or is Battle Dash a rename of Eminent Attack Movement?

1. They do, its +1% skill critical rate to party members.
2. I believe you are correct sir, that skill did last 15 seconds before.
As R95 gear is going to be removed from the oly npc, is anything going to be added as reward? Also, will the amount of required oly tokens needed for R99 gear be changed?
Good Afternoon (Using Bing Translator)

I hope you have changed a lot in Erthéia, because the Lineage 2 became a game barely balanced in every way, NCsoft has always been terrible at balance classes, see example of Othel Rogue for example, became the most powerful class in every way, especially at the Olympic, the stun the Othel Rogue is very appealing, because it rarely misses the stun them, and of course the stun was a weapon of Sigel and Tyrrs, and today is more of Othell Rogue.

Because I find absurd the Othell hit so many still think it absurd to stun the Hide of Othell Rogue take 60 seconds and load in less than 3 minutes, the whole thing is absurd, because I think the Skill Hide is a skill appealing, as is the UD of Sigel that simply is just 30 seconds and we can only use after 14 minutes. There are certain things that NCsoft can't do is reuse and duration of skills. In the same Olympics, the Rogue Othell flap, flap and Hide, and there is just that, a few more well-equipped leverages the fact that its 100% be stuns in my opinion and just kill giving stun because turned dagger rule, run, run and hit stun stun and hit, run and hit stun. When it is not well equipped, stun thumped, hide, and then uses stun thumped hide, the Dagger comes to use 3 Hide in the Olympics, that's absurd, not to mention the Healers, giving damage absurdities, can cure your own, your own HP, mana has 3 skills to remove debuffs, defence was increased in Lindvior, can burn enemy mana, can take to increase their damage debuff, can use debuff to increase consumption of mana, and then go and Ncsoft increases the power of the skills of the Healer? Oh my god.... NCsoft needs to hire WOW programs, they will know how to keep the classes balanced.
What about changing minimum players required to enter istina/octavis normal from 14 to 7? Like it happened at Innova
Hi Juji! How much is max level on main/dual class/sub class in new update?
Hello,

Juji, Vali and administration in general, theres a possibility of talk quickly to dev on korea and made some changes about Instance/Raid zone new minimal number of players that is eligible to enter and make it happens at this update.

Split in half the numbers like it was before (atm didnt remember when this changes happens) where actually number needed for instances/raid are 98 fix at 49.

examples:
Antharas, Valakas, Lindvior 98 -200 to 49 - 200
The "Eminent Blunt Weapon Mastery" that Ertheia wizards get, is it both for 2-handed and 1-handed blunts?

I have understood it like this that "Eminent Blunt Weapon Mastery (http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/%EC%8A%88%ED%8E%98%EB%A6%AC%EC%96%BC+%EB%B8%94%EB% 9F%B0%ED%8A%B8+%EC%9B%A8%ED%8F%B0+%EB%A7%88%EC%8A% A4%ED%84%B0%EB%A6%AC)" is both for 2-handed and 1-handed blunts, but since with "Eminent Robe Mastery (http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/%EC%8A%88%ED%8E%98%EB%A6%AC%EC%96%BC+%EB%A1%9C%EB% B8%8C+%EB%A7%88%EC%8A%A4%ED%84%B0%EB%A6%AC)" you can not equip a shield or sigil, your best and de-facto only choice would be a 2-handed blunt aka mage staff. Maybe Juji can clarify this :)
Hi Juji! How much is max level on main/dual class/sub class in new update?

In Ertheia the max level for main/dual is 99, the max level for subs is 80.

The removal of the level cap for main/dual comes in a later update, at least half a year away :)
The "Eminent Blunt Weapon Mastery" that Ertheia wizards get, is it both for 2-handed and 1-handed blunts?


I would think so, but the better question is why arm a mage sword or one handed blunt at all, unless you have one that is highly overenchanted? Let's think about this logically for a second.


1. Like most mage classes a Seer's primary focus is to increase m.atk without sacrificing much else. For most weapons a +0 two handed mage blunt still has more m.atk than a +4 mage blunt/mage sword of the same rank and grade.


2. The Ertheia cannot wear sigils and do not get a magic boost from wearing them even if they could, like other mage classes do.


3. I also thought I recall reading somewhere that Ertheia cannot equip shields, so there's really no hope in using one for defensive purposes.


That leaves an Ertheia mage with two choices: equip a one handed mage blunt/sword with less magic attack, or invest in a two handed mage blunt.


While the enchant rates for mage weapons will be slightly better, my hunch is that it's still going to cost the average player quite a bit to obtain a highly OE mage sword or one-handed blunt. The best decision to make here is for most Ertheia seers to use a two handed mage blunt.
I have understood it like this that "Eminent Blunt Weapon Mastery (http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/%EC%8A%88%ED%8E%98%EB%A6%AC%EC%96%BC+%EB%B8%94%EB% 9F%B0%ED%8A%B8+%EC%9B%A8%ED%8F%B0+%EB%A7%88%EC%8A% A4%ED%84%B0%EB%A6%AC)" is both for 2-handed and 1-handed blunts, but since with "Eminent Robe Mastery (http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/%EC%8A%88%ED%8E%98%EB%A6%AC%EC%96%BC+%EB%A1%9C%EB% B8%8C+%EB%A7%88%EC%8A%A4%ED%84%B0%EB%A6%AC)" you can not equip a shield or sigil, your best and de-facto only choice would be a 2-handed blunt aka mage staff. Maybe Juji can clarify this :)


Yes, that's how I see it, too.
For Tyrr Maestros, Does the new skill "Superior Blunt Weapon Mastery" Stack with the already existing skill "Superior Weapon Mastery" ?
The Kamael race can equip heavy armor/robes, no matter the level or class.

does this means that will be a new look for heavy/robe armors (below R grade) on kamaels? is there any pic about that? or they will look the same as the light armor sets??
I want to ask something:

In korean patch notes to exchange PVE to PVP items and opposite you need only the stones not full items only in russian and in ncwest we got that why you did that ?
First time you use the skill in a macro, click the location, and then use the macro it will cast it in the same location as before. Does not work when out of range from spot.




That functionality is actually already in the game, and works for skills like Poison Zone, Shadow Snare and phoenix arrow.
Hello, Juji,
I always had a question in my mind, scrolled the forum here, but really haven't seen an answer to be clear. See, I have Othell Adventurer now and my question would be: could i take Ertheia warrior class for my dual class for instance? I saw that Kamaels can't add Ertheia classes as duals, but what about the others?
Ty for reply
Hello, Juji,
I always had a question in my mind, scrolled the forum here, but really haven't seen an answer to clear my mind. See, I have Othell Adventurer now and could i take Ertheia warrior class for my dual for instance? I saw that Kamaels can't add dual Ertheia classes, but what about others?
Ty for reply

No one can pick Ertheia classes for dual classes. Ertheia classes can only be main classes, even Ertheia cant pick them for dual class
Really? :( that's some bad news :/ always wanted to try Ertheia and play with more varieties at the same race, but oh well.. thanks for quick reply, cheers
don't forget that this passive can be enchanted.

Aye but I think ppl are posting that they cant be enchanted? I don't see where it says that but maybe they're done a little research outta anger lol

Try using Wild Roar

Its impractical to use in PVP which is where crit/skill dmg actually matters... Wild roar over ogre drops ur mdef/pdef which new classes already tear up so you'll need whatever you can stack in that department. Theirs is a passive plus they get extra patk boost ability/buffs/ue/blink/stun/kd/30s UD-Berserker Rage type of .!. skill.... Even if the passive isnt enchantable it doesnt need to be lol. Wild Roar gave me a ***** when it came out but Ogre still is king.
Juji, what about Sealed ap 16-20 ?
They don't get the Tyrr totem type buffs but they get their own. Even their +14 STR lvl 3 passive is insane lol. I just hope their skills on paper dont stack as hard as it looks like they'll be otherwise all Hail to the new floppy earred Fist Queens..... Kick your *** with tiny squeaks and grandma-style white underwear popping out....
Aye but I think ppl are posting that they cant be enchanted? I don't see where it says that but maybe they're done a little research outta anger lol



Its impractical to use in PVP which is where crit/skill dmg actually matters... Wild roar over ogre drops ur mdef/pdef which new classes already tear up so you'll need whatever you can stack in that department. Theirs is a passive plus they get extra patk boost ability/buffs/ue/blink/stun/kd/30s UD-Berserker Rage type of .!. skill.... Even if the passive isnt enchantable it doesnt need to be lol. Wild Roar gave me a ***** when it came out but Ogre still is king.

It says in the notes, the first section, the 7th bullet point.


o The Ertheia class skills cannot be enchanted.


Also you do realize the Eviscerators have been getting buffed because they couldn't do well in pvp right?

They don't get the Tyrr totem type buffs but they get their own. Even their +14 STR lvl 3 passive is insane lol. I just hope their skills on paper dont stack as hard as it looks like they'll be otherwise all Hail to the new floppy earred Fist Queens..... Kick your *** with tiny squeaks and grandma-style white underwear popping out....

What? You don't like bloomers? Only 2 armor sets from what I can see have them sticking out, and even then they could potentially be garters. Unless you are talking about the petticoats?
People are pretty derp.

New races need to be enticing so that people have a reason to re-roll.

The cycle is this:

1) New Races / Classes Added
2) Not a huge deal in the beginning until somebody gets it to max level and gears it, then puts it in the hands of someone semi competent in a competitive area like olympiad or pvp.
3) Huge uproar at how overpowered it is starting further re-rolls
4) some time passes and the OP abilities of the new race/classes get nerfed/balanced
5) some time later a new content release comes out and the new race isnt really that big of a deal anymore.

We saw this formula play out with the Kamaels (buffsteal and +30 disarm), where are those chickens now ?
on the page 8 of the PDF file on the picture about new symbols I see Lv. 5 Legendary Symbols which are created from Legendary STR/CON/etc and new Luck / Charisma. but picture is not complete (scrollbar at the right side)....


so the question is: will there be an Ancient or normal Giant's Symbols like STR+Charisma, CON+Charisma, CON+Luck, etc. too ? or only Legendary ?



Can you please clarify about tattoos-symbols. Will we have new improved mixed one (STR+CHA) only based on legendary lv. 5 or based on other symbols (Ancient, Giants) as well ?
Fixed an issue where the Tyrr Titan class' 3rd skill didn't get deleted when acquiring the similar
Frenzy and Gut skills above Level 6.

can you elaborate on this? it doesn't make much sense.

Also, somewhere in the patch notes it states that it will take giant's energy to reseal longing talismans. How many will it take?
The Shilen Templar only got the new knight frenzy? Why give Mass Freezing Strike to the Eva Templar when it is an old DE Skill?

PD: I dont finish to read all the pdf, when finished i will write more issues :P
The Ertheia race's dual class is created at the Level 85 awakened class status.
juji this mean dual class will start at lvl 85 or i read bad this ? because my english its not pretty good can u answer this please thanks ^^
The Ertheia race's dual class is created at the Level 85 awakened class status.
juji this mean dual class will start at lvl 85 or i read bad this ? because my english its not pretty good can u answer this please thanks ^^

You are correct
can you elaborate on this? it doesn't make much sense.

Also, somewhere in the patch notes it states that it will take giant's energy to reseal longing talismans. How many will it take?


this is important for me to know as well, to be more specific do i have to switch my class from titan back to duelist to keep my +20 duelist spirit?
Even their +14 STR lvl 3 passive is insane lol.

Also wanted to address this. You say that the +14 STR passive is insane, however, I am sure it hits lvl 3 at 85 when they are Liberated to their 3rd class, at which time it is fair with all the other classes. Tyrr Warriors get +14 STR when you look at their skills and add it all up, even the Iss Enchanter gets a total of +14 STR, so how exactly is +14 STR insane?
Q : Will toons be moved to nearest town after update ?
I would also love that catacombs and necropolis could be back... Miss those spots!
The Shilen Templar only got the new knight frenzy? Why give Mass Freezing Strike to the Eva Templar when it is an old DE Skill?

PD: I dont finish to read all the pdf, when finished i will write more issues :P

Paladin will get Riot Shield, DA - Shadow Slash, TK - Mass Freezing.... and SK has now Mass Lighting... Currently SK is overpowered, especially in mass pvp. so it is proper change.


Still Guardian's Frenzy gives +30 Attribute defence (lol), and SK frenzy gives +15% Skill power.... still imbalance, and you crying :)
Not a big dramatic change actually. It has slightly increased.

Mage weps enhant rates equal to Phisical weapons ? or ?
@Jacky, nope it's like 1.1x more chance aka 10% on top of the original chance rate - better then nothing but not same as physical weapons

@Miff, can't wait for it when you add in the increased skill powers :D
ps, our pdef/mdef is 100% increase vs 120% of the PK/TK but who cares
@Jacky, nope it's like 1.1x more chance aka 10% on top of the original chance rate - better then nothing but not same as physical weapons


On the basis that the original chance for R grade and above is 25% that makes it a massive 2.5% boost to our chances to oe a mage weapon. Absolutely ridiculous really. 27.5% is hardly a fair chance when physical weaps oe at at least 50% chance. Mages are already one of the most expensive classes to play, I was hoping for better tbh.

WTB mammon weapon swaps all the way to R99!!!
On the basis that the original chance for R grade and above is 25% that makes it a massive 2.5% boost to our chances to oe a mage weapon. Absolutely ridiculous really. 27.5% is hardly a fair chance when physical weaps oe at at least 50% chance. Mages are already one of the most expensive classes to play, I was hoping for better tbh.

WTB mammon weapon swaps all the way to R99!!!

wtf are u talking about, i blow up more than 9b in a roll trying to OE a r99bow didnt get it even to +7.
wtf are u talking about, i blow up more than 9b in a roll trying to OE a r99bow didnt get it even to +7.
Not my fault that you are really unlucky. Mage weapon OE rates have always been half of the rate that bows and physical weapons had. Pre-R grade it was 66% and 33%, and post R grade it seems to be 50% and 25%. You think you had a mare with your bow, try a staff
What class would you guys suggest to roll (regarding those patch notes) for a newbie to be able to solo a bit (85+) but be also on demand in party playing and be able to pvp (1v1 and small gorup)?

Im asking since a friend of mine wants to return with this Update and isnt sure what toon to play.

I thought of Feoh/Aeore Dual Combo.. or probably Sigel Hell Knight/Shilien Templar?
wtf are u talking about, i blow up more than 9b in a roll trying to OE a r99bow didnt get it even to +7.

You realize it's about a 6 percent chance to enchant a melee weapon to +7. What is your point? You probably had good luck that you didn't spend even more.

Your chance of making +7 on anything lower than R grade is about 20 percent. It's basic math. The difference between 50 percent and 66 percent is huge.
The following are the quests that have been deleted:

Blood from the Wall
Be Well
Open Secret



I've relied on these quests to level my subs bit by bit. Can non-Ertheia races do the new Ertheia daily quests in place of these?


An Adventurer Hat and Rocking Horse Mount have been added to all new characters for free. These items will be automatically equipped upon character creation. Items are dimensional.
Is the Rocking Horse Mount coming back to the L2 Store? I didn't appreciate the fact that it was removed without notice.
Anyone from behind the servers, How many megabytes does this new update add to the current client. ty
The simple dyes for non awakened chars, the +4 -4 -5 will be useless now? Except the str and int for skill mastery? OR str is giving crt dmg still and the other ones give what they used to except the stats charisma is giving now. Or the charisma is adding patck pdef atck spd matck mdef casting spd max hp mp cp to the values that the rest of the base stats give. Im confused. Can we get a new table with what is every stat giving now?
The simple dyes for non awakened chars, the +4 -4 -5 will be useless now? Except the str and int for skill mastery? OR str is giving crt dmg still and the other ones give what they used to except the stats charisma is giving now. Or the charisma is adding patck pdef atck spd matck mdef casting spd max hp mp cp to the values that the rest of the base stats give. Im confused. Can we get a new table with what is every stat giving now?

The new stats they are extra (bonus) stats.
The old stats will function the same as before and the new ones will only increase those stuff too. That is all.
Anyone from behind the servers, How many megabytes does this new update add to the current client. ty

I can see it adding 2 or 3 Gigabytes. Since your question was megabytes, that would be 2048 to 3072 MBs.

The simple dyes for non awakened chars, the +4 -4 -5 will be useless now? Except the str and int for skill mastery? OR str is giving crt dmg still and the other ones give what they used to except the stats charisma is giving now. Or the charisma is adding patck pdef atck spd matck mdef casting spd max hp mp cp to the values that the rest of the base stats give. Im confused. Can we get a new table with what is every stat giving now?

Im pretty sure every Attribute does the same thing still, its just CHA will further increases all stats by however much. Like putting on a piece of armour that gives you 5% p.atk or something, it doesn't affect your STR attribute but it increases your p.atk stat.

Now that I think about it though, I'm going to take a screenshot of my stats before and after to see how much the increase from CHA is.
Now that I think about it though, I'm going to take a screenshot of my stats before and after to see how much the increase from CHA is.

This is actually a pretty good idea! Thanks.

Maybe you can improve by making screens from multiple toons who gain different CHA values after the update and check the changes there too, so you would see that how much difference does 1 or 2 points make.
I can see it adding 2 or 3 Gigabytes. Since your question was megabytes, that would be 2048 to 3072 MBs.



Im pretty sure every Attribute does the same thing still, its just CHA will further increases all stats by however much. Like putting on a piece of armour that gives you 5% p.atk or something, it doesn't affect your STR attribute but it increases your p.atk stat.

Now that I think about it though, I'm going to take a screenshot of my stats before and after to see how much the increase from CHA is.

Are you sure about gigabytes? I think it adding not more than 600mb
Anyone from behind the servers, How many megabytes does this new update add to the current client. ty

I can see it adding 2 or 3 Gigabytes. Since your question was megabytes, that would be 2048 to 3072 MBs.

Are you sure about gigabytes? I think it adding not more than 600mb

My bet is that it will be around 1 gigabyte (give or take 10%).
There are not many new zone and new monster apparance textures to make the update a too big one.
My bet is that it will be around 1 gigabyte (give or take 10%).
There are not many new zone and new monster apparance textures to make the update a too big one.

True... well we will see! I just hope I can start the update at around 10am EST since I have to wake up to pick classes anyways, then it can install while I go back to bed and finish my sleep. Midnight shift, woo!
I would think so, but the better question is why arm a mage sword or one handed blunt at all, unless you have one that is highly overenchanted? Let's think about this logically for a second.
Specter Caster: 170M
Specter Retributer: 500+M


Some people have to be more frugal than others.


Even without Sigil Passive, an Apoc Caster will upgrade a Requiem Retributer and a Specter Caster will upgrade an Apocalypse Retributer.


At end game gear levels, yes, you want to min-max but at that point you don't have to worry as much about gear prices deprecating and hindering upgrade affordability.
Yul Trickster: Superior Instinct Mastery
Lv.1: PvP damage + 5%, and P. Atk. + 5% when equipped with a crossbow.
Lv.2: PvP damage + 7%, and P. Atk. + 7% when equipped with a crossbow.
Lv.3: PvP damage + 10%, and P. Atk. + 10% when equipped with a
crossbow.

Lv.3: PvP damage + 10%, and P. Atk. + 10% when equipped with a
crossbow.

when equipped with a
crossbow.

crossbow

http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p466/rikku2004/Xf2Nu_zps086c12b4.gif

But then Kamaels get to choose any races's subclass to level and the armor restriction is lifted so I guess it's alright. :rolleyes:
About **** time.
How about a Noblese status for Ertheia race, with no subclasses?
How about a Noblese status for Ertheia race, with no subclasses?
...


They have a Dual Class, which means they have A sub class.


What they can't have is more than that.


Dual Classes are Subs, Subs that level above level 80.


And if they couldn't be sub, they wouldn't be able to participate in the Olympiad, since that's a requirement.


They don't get Sub Skills, and they cannot add any subs aside from their Dual Class. They don't level their subs up from 40, they do a quest and it's added as a level 85 Awakened class to them, directly as a Dual Class.


Since they can only have one Sub, it makes since that the first one becomes their dual class (which you can change at Raina if you change your mind, for adena).
http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p466/rikku2004/Xf2Nu_zps086c12b4.gif

But then Kamaels get to choose any races's subclass to level and the armor restriction is lifted so I guess it's alright. :rolleyes:
About **** time.
I think the part that is confusing some people is the placement of the comma. They think one part applies to everything and only the second part is Crossbow-specific.

Most should know better, since the patch notes have been formatted even worse than this and there was less question about what applied to what in the past.
I've relied on these quests to level my subs bit by bit. Can non-Ertheia races do the new Ertheia daily quests in place of these?

Is the Rocking Horse Mount coming back to the L2 Store? I didn't appreciate the fact that it was removed without notice.

It's free with a new toon, you can probably claim it on the website and then go get it on the toon you want at the dim merchant in game.

It's not an epic mount or anything.
It's free with a new toon, you can probably claim it on the website and then go get it on the toon you want at the dim merchant in game.

It's not an epic mount or anything.

By the sounds of it, you wouldn't claim it on the website, I interpreted it as though when you start a new char, it's just there. Though if it's transferable through the dimensional merchant or the alchemy NPCs then that'd be good for already made characters
By the sounds of it, you wouldn't claim it on the website, I interpreted it as though when you start a new char, it's just there. Though if it's transferable through the dimensional merchant or the alchemy NPCs then that'd be good for already made characters

Considering it says "Dimensional Item" It should be transferable to already existing characters ^.^
Considering it says "Dimensional Item" It should be transferable to already existing characters ^.^

Ahh must not have read that or forgot, well that's good then!
So if veteran players with full accounts didn't grab the Rocking Horse Mount when it was available, the only way for them to get it now is to delete a toon and create a new one.

Right.
Ok, far i have understood about Ertheia is:

-Ertheia can't make 3 subclasses like other races.
-Ertheia can't OE their skills.
-Ertheia can have only 1 Subclass (That will became automatically an already awakened Dualclass when you do the dualclass quest) but can't receive any Subclass ticket (This mean that you will receive only 4 Dualclass tickets?).

Now, what i have not understood at all, is: WHICH Subclass (or i must say dualclass?) Ertheia CAN make and CANNOT make?

On the patch notes there is only a tiny pharagraph about it and it's not specified at all...
some questions:

1) In the description of the skills of ertheia wizard, for the passive skill of the weapon says it is possible to enable the use of a sword or blunt, but the description of the active skills says just mentioning, when used with a blunt; just wonder if there is lack of information in the description? (I refer to the use of the sword)

2) In the case of ertheia wizard can be considered as weapon, the use of an one-hand blunt or two-handed blunt weapon? or both? they have their value assigned in the passive skill?

3) In both classes, both Ertheia Figher as Ertheia Wizard, all skills described, will be kept when taking level up? (saying about transfer class a.k.a doing 1st, 2nd and 3rd liberations). In other words, if any skill will be Replaced while transfering class? If yes, which one could mention? I can not say whether the advanced Korean servers and their updates will be possible to enchant or over-enchant those skills in the future, so I'm curious.

4) Since two new revelation skill will be added, I wonder if there will wipe the current revelation skills that has already been learned? or will be added more chaos pormander's ?

5) On the same reasoning of the previous question, if there wipe the skills sub-class and dual-class as well as the ability system that already learned? I'll have to re-learn them again when ertheia lauches? And the fishing skills already learned, will wipe to be learned again?

6) How much data (in gigabytes) will be added with the expansion Ertheia compared to Valiance?

Thanks in advance.
Now, what i have not understood at all, is: WHICH Subclass (or i must say dualclass?) Ertheia CAN make and CANNOT make?

On the patch notes there is only a tiny pharagraph about it and it's not specified at all...
They can dual class other races' classes except Maestro, Dominator and Judicator, not sure about other Kamael classes, I have to reread to make sure.
On the other hand no one can take Ertheia classes as dual class, not even the Ertheia themselves.
Is there changes on the bot problem in the comming patch? I know its not in the patch notes, atleast not officiell, or any new procedures or game mechanisms?
I think its a relevant concern from a player perspective.
Question- as I saw they got tauti weapon improvements in Korea, 10% p.attack 15% pvp attack bonus, I didn't see any of that in the patch notes so we wont get it with this update?

Not this update and there was only a 10% patt boost.. not an additional 15% pvp lmao..

it's a nice weapon but any +12 or higher pvp'd R99/+15 R95/+15 Bless Apo weapon is better from a raw PVE/PVP DPS point of view
I got 1 question ,dont know if missed it while i was reading the patch notes,that regards to the raid points.Will it be some sort of new bracelet that will give +3 of the newly introduced stats aka LUC/CHA ?
I got 1 question ,dont know if missed it while i was reading the patch notes,that regards to the raid points.Will it be some sort of new bracelet that will give +3 of the newly introduced stats aka LUC/CHA ?
The bracelet you get from Dimensional Barrier probably.
Question about Yul trikster

Superior instinct Mastery work only when equiped with a crossbow or ther is a mistake and it's bow/crossbow.
Crossbow is an exclusive weapon for kamael race...if this skill can be used with crossbow only...this means that triksters from other races (human,elf,de....) except kamel can't benefit of this skill ?
Hi Juji, Hi Vali,

I have some questions...

1.Ertheia fighter armor set appearances r-95 have blue color like Heavy Armour, Ertheia can wear Heavy armour?Have mastery?

2.You said CHA stat Increases P. Atk., P. Def., Attack Spd., M. Atk., M. Def., Casting Spd., Max HP, Max MP, and Max CP.
Pls tell us withhow much %?Or atleast be more specific.

3.Can you give us more details about: ‘Low-Grade Love Potion - Party’ and ‘Love Potion - Party’ and if Love Potion - Party’ affect only caster why "party"?

4.Can you add cast time and cooldown for all skils? I think its useless if i know what skill do (eg: Lateral Hit:Lv.22: Attacks target with 29500 Power added to P. Atk., and decreases their P.Def. by 30% for 10 sec. 20% more damage if target is Stunned. Requires a fist.)
if i dont know cast time and cooldown.

5.Really nothing about feohs??

6.Can you tell us the stats of: Dimensional Bracelet?

7.You said:The items that the raid bosses drop have been changed.
Can you pls give us the new lists for Istina/Octavis/Tauti/etc. ?

8.You said: SP rewards have been increased for Lv. 99 instance dungeons, some raid bosses, and Lv. 95 solo Kartia's Labyrinth.
Can you yell us with how much % and exactly witch "some rb"?

9.Can you tell us succes rate % for Talisman – Insanity?

10.Can you add rewards info for new/old quests?

11.What kind of damage give Ertheia wizard? Have melee type damage?

12.Erteia wizard mastery is sword/blunt or only blunt?


I think its enough, if i ask more you might not answer :)

Thanks in advance for your answer.
you ask what it is ovious...
Its a mastery exclusively for Yull Kamael Trikster..why human,elf or de shoud benefit ?

Think and then ask...

Question about Yul trikster

Superior instinct Mastery work only when equiped with a crossbow or ther is a mistake and it's bow/crossbow.
Crossbow is an exclusive weapon for kamael race...if this skill can be used with crossbow only...this means that triksters from other races (human,elf,de....) except kamel can't benefit of this skill ?
can you elaborate on this? it doesn't make much sense.

Also, somewhere in the patch notes it states that it will take giant's energy to reseal longing talismans. How many will it take?

It means bye-bye duelist spirit if you got guts learned.Maybe changing class will avoid that.This combo was a glitch anyway, dunno what makes you wonder here at all.
i heard some rumors about tanks on kr server:
shield will be reduces the received magic dmg?
ABRAMS;3443201']i heard some rumors about tanks on kr server:
shield will be reduces the received magic dmg?I ever tought it has ever been like that.. isn't it?

Why would a magic not being blocked by the shield? They are still "physical" (i mean.. not etereal, like ghosts) attacks.. they are not ghosts, they don't pass trought your armor..

If you throw a rock i can parry with a shield.. same with a fire ball or a water ball or whatever it's..
I didn't see anywhere (might have missed it) in the patch notes or in the previous people's questions if we will be able to make an Ertheia's race classes as our Dualclass.

So my question is:

Will someone that already has a character, for example Human Male, be able to make an Ertheia class Eviscerator or Sayha's Seer as a Dualclass? And if yes, how? Any new quest? paying 100kk adena if you already have a Dualclass? Free change of Dualclass as when Goddess Of Destruction came out because it is a whole new race/classes?

Thank you.
Any idea how long the system will be down on Wednesday for the update to Ertheia?
I didn't see anywhere (might have missed it) in the patch notes or in the previous people's questions if we will be able to make an Ertheia's race classes as our Dualclass.

So my question is:

Will someone that already has a character, for example Human Male, be able to make an Ertheia class Eviscerator or Sayha's Seer as a Dualclass? And if yes, how? Any new quest? paying 100kk adena if you already have a Dualclass? Free change of Dualclass as when Goddess Of Destruction came out because it is a whole new race/classes?

Thank you.




No race -- human, orc, kamael, elf, d. elf, dwarf, elpy, etc. -- can subclass or dual class any of the Ertheia classes. Ertheia cannot even take on an Ertheia class as a dual class.
Although not a question specific patch question...

Will there be any ingame celebrations (gm buffs/free teleport/and such things)?

Will there be any changes to store items?

The last "large" patch meant the server was down for an extended time. Are there plans to take the server down early or is it going to follow the usual Wednesday shutdown. Only ask as when the last "large" patch (not lindavor) came out the server went down early and was down for like 18 hours.

Want to know if xp items may be impacted by a early shutdown.
I have two armor sets ready for my future Ertheia character: one with maid outfit appearance and the other with swimsuit appearance. Will I be able to equip them?
Hello,

Since we got a lot of changes in classes.
in this update, chars will receive chaos Essence?
I didn't see anywhere (might have missed it) in the patch notes or in the previous people's questions if we will be able to make an Ertheia's race classes as our Dualclass.

So my question is:

Will someone that already has a character, for example Human Male, be able to make an Ertheia class Eviscerator or Sayha's Seer as a Dualclass? And if yes, how? Any new quest? paying 100kk adena if you already have a Dualclass? Free change of Dualclass as when Goddess Of Destruction came out because it is a whole new race/classes?

Thank you.

They can dual class other races' classes except Maestro, Dominator and Judicator, not sure about other Kamael classes, I have to reread to make sure.
On the other hand no one can take Ertheia classes as dual class, not even the Ertheia themselves.

It was a few posts above yours. :rolleyes:

Hello,

Since we got a lot of changes in classes.
in this update, chars will receive chaos Essence?
Buy it from L2store maybe?
Does the new enchant glows apply to D-S80 weapons too?
About tauti wepons can we put Augment and Enchant weapon or not?

(Accuracy options have been added to Tauti's One handed Axe)
This mean one more SA???
If yes we have +5% more pvp dmg?

Ty
About tauti wepons can we put Augment and Enchant weapon or not?

(Accuracy options have been added to Tauti's One handed Axe)
This mean one more SA???
If yes we have +5% more pvp dmg?

Ty

no, no & no
so the question is: will there be an Ancient or normal Giant's Symbols like STR+Charisma, CON+Charisma, CON+Luck, etc. too ? or only Legendary ?Only the new Legendary Dyes (Regular STAT + LUC or CHA) and Windy Dyes (LUC + CHA).

Will the M. Critical Chance remain capped at 33% (instead of 50%) for heals and magic attacks? (as was indicated at "Lab Report 7 - M. Critical Rate") http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=266108 (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=266108)I will send them a reminder on the M. Critical Rate chance.

Wynn Arcana Lord : Summon Protection Stone : Summons a giant shaman stone to temporarily increase party's abilities.

Question: What abilities? Could you give a list.http://i.imgur.com/FpEqJhQ.jpg

Juji,

I see the Gravity Exile skill is a new revelation skill we can take that blocks resurrection skills, do you know if they fixed the Clan Resurrection Lock to use personal fame instead of clan CRP ?It uses Clan Reputation points, not personal fame.

Can you clarify the new summoner skills mores.

Especially the Pony one. is it a portal you place somewhere and then can move to later. Is it a pty gate chant? What exactly does it do.

Are dark stones going to start dropping in Hellbound?It works similar to the Sayha shirt teleport skill. You summon a portal that lasts 30 seconds and then you can teleport back to that portal with another skill. There is a limit as to how far you can be from the portal to use the teleport skill.

Dark Eternal Stone Fragments drop in Hellbound from Mirage Vipers (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=263357).



The items that the NPCs drop in all hunting zones have been changed

Does it mean that there will be a whole new Drop/Spoil for every hunting area?
Do you have any info about what should we expect so far?

ThanksI need to check.

does activating luck require special events or it can trigger anytime
How long does it lasts ?Not really, you just need to hunt/spoil mobs. When LUC triggers while hunting, you get a message and a Fortune Pocket. If you are crafting/enchanting, then a big 4 leaf clover will appear when LUC triggers. The higher LUC you have, the better chance that more Lady Luck activations will appear.

Hi, stone of destiny will be back ?No.


1. Does the Eviscerator get an aura buff? I see one for the Sayha Seer in the notes but not for the Eviscerator
2. The notes say that the Eviscerator's Battle Dash was changed to last longer, since the list of skills doesn't mention any Battle Dash, does this mean that there are skills that aren't shown in the notes? Or is Battle Dash a rename of Eminent Attack Movement?1. P. Skill Critical Rate +1%.
2. Battle Dash is a speed buff that activates with the Eminent Attack Movement passive.
juji and what about 20 ap? when it be unsealed and able to use ?
Juji when you ask about the wierd behaviour of the mcrit stat can you also ask when int will raise critical damage as it is supposed to?

Also any chance of some OE tests on Juji's labs? I'm particularly interested in mage weapons and the chance at each step as it is not the same all the way and seems to go up and down with some steps being much harder than others.
O, nice. Devil's Isle changes. But... what level limits, what kind of changes. Do mobs drop herbs? Is it an XP or SP region? What will happen to the lower level raids on Devil's Isle? Is Pailaka affected? Is Zaken affected? They removed all the mobs from the area, so it is empty for now. Zaken and Pailaka were not affected.

So, how does this work? Notes are fussy. When I dismantle e.g. Apocalyse Slasher do I get a crafting pack in return, like the drops from open field raids or do I get just a bunch of materials and the recipe? You get a crafting pack after you dismantle.

1) Does this mean mobs will start spoiling key parts again? Like being able to spoil e.g. Eternal Tunic parts from mobs in HF/Pagan/HB or will it just stay a 1/500 drop only in Cemetary? No, I'll give an example to clarify it a bit. EX: Mobs in Pagan's Temple will now drop Amaranthine Fragments and random R99 (100%) Recipes.
2) Does this affect Fortuna, Spezion, Altar of Shilien as well? Do they start dropping weapons (Spezion Claw, Ron's Duals, Malliss' Stormer) again? Yes, Crafting Packs for weapons/armor have been added for Raid Bosses now. It looks like the Altar of Shilen bosses did not have any drop changes though. The raid boss weapons will not be added back to the drop tables. The devs created the Monster Weapon appearance stones instead and added it to other raid bosses like Tauti. However, for those boss weapon appearances you mentioned they can only be purchased from the L2 Store.
3) Are Elcyum Powders (and related Elcyum items) being dropped from more than just mobs in raid instances (Spezion, Fortuna, Baylor, Crystal Caverns) or does supply stays as low as it is while Alchemy system requires another big load of 'em?The powders still only drop from the raid bosses in instances.

Juji has the success rate for applying PVE/PVP enhancements to R99 weapons/armors changed or it remains at 60% as per you Lab?

What about additional material requirements (Gemstone R/Giant's Energies etc.).
Has the needed amount remained the same and if not has it increased or decreased?I need to check if there was a change to the success rate. Ingredient requirements have stayed the same.

The graphical color effects for enchant levels of weapons of all grades have been changed

so if i have an B grade weapon +10 it would be have a purple graphical effect? what about S/s80? an s80 +12 have reddish purple graphical effect?Yes, the +10 B weapon will be purple and the +12 S/S80 will have reddish purple.

The "Eminent Blunt Weapon Mastery" that Ertheia wizards get, is it both for 2-handed and 1-handed blunts?Both.

Question- as I saw they got tauti weapon improvements in Korea, 10% p.attack 15% pvp attack bonus, I didn't see any of that in the patch notes so we wont get it with this update?

You also mentioned improvement in sp from mobs in pagan temple and some other spots, also something about sp improvement in kartia? could you elaborate just how big is the improvement?No, the improvements to the Tauti weapons are not in our patch.

The SP improved in the following areas:
Pagan's Temple - Increased by 75 ~ 87%
Cemetery - Increased by 62 ~ 85%
Land of Chaos - Increased by 70%
Raider's Crossroads - Increased by 70%
Seed of Hellfire - Increased by 85%
Kartia - Increased by 85%

o The Kamael race can now select the classes of other races as their sub-class.

Gender Change Service Rules & Requirements

The Gender Change Service is not available to Kamael characters, due to their gender-specific classes.

I this update we will be able to change kamael ?


Superior Instinct Mastery : Lv.4: PvP damage + 15%, and P. Atk. + 15% when equipped with a crossbow.

Full bonus work only with crossbow? or crossbow bonus extra is only this 15% p.atk.?
Whit bow trickster's will take 15% pvp damage too? No update to the gender change service. There are still restrictions in place for male/female Kamael classes.

The P. Atk. stats do not increase if you equip a bow for this passive skill. The PvP damage +15% bonus will still apply when a bow is equipped.

The Tyrr Doombringer new Skill Berserker Soul is a toogle or a buff?
It says on the notes on 1st time you see it that it does not need rune stones to learn or use; Then on skill changes it shows that asks 4 to 8 rune stones to learn? So what is the deal? It only helps using 2h and 1h or can do it with duals too?You need rune stones to learn per skill level. You don't need Rune Stones to use the skill. Berserker Soul is a toggle.

As R95 gear is going to be removed from the oly npc, is anything going to be added as reward? Also, will the amount of required oly tokens needed for R99 gear be changed?Nothing added to equipment rewards and I saw no changes to Oly tokens needed for R99.

What about changing minimum players required to enter istina/octavis normal from 14 to 7?No change.

Hi Juji! How much is max level on main/dual class/sub class in new update?Still the same as before. 99/99/80/80.

For Tyrr Maestros, Does the new skill "Superior Blunt Weapon Mastery" Stack with the already existing skill "Superior Weapon Mastery" ?
Yes, these two skills stack.

The Kamael race can equip heavy armor/robes, no matter the level or class.

does this means that will be a new look for heavy/robe armors (below R grade) on kamaels? is there any pic about that? or they will look the same as the light armor sets??Not really, they will just have a different armor skins for Heavy armor for below R-Grade.

Juji, what about Sealed ap 16-20 ?Not available in this update.

Can you please clarify about tattoos-symbols. Will we have new improved mixed one (STR+CHA) only based on legendary lv. 5 or based on other symbols (Ancient, Giants) as well ?You will have improved Legendary dyes from Lv.1 to Lv. 5. No Ancient or Giant Dyes.

can you elaborate on this? it doesn't make much sense.

Also, somewhere in the patch notes it states that it will take giant's energy to reseal longing talismans. How many will it take?If you learn Frenzy or Guts Lv. 6 it will remove Duelist Spirit.

72 Energy of Destruction and 200 Giant's Energy to reseal Longing Talisman.


juji this mean dual class will start at lvl 85 or i read bad this ? because my english its not pretty good can u answer this please thanks ^^At level 85, Ertheia can take a dual class quest and it will automatically bump their dual class to level 85. No sub-class leveling required.
so whens the next aden wheel....loool?
Whats the % chances of combining two Longing's for an Insanity?
What about nosense damage on othells to healer? Do we still need 100kk HP to deal with an othell on pvp?
Whats the % chances of combining two Longing's for an Insanity?

Remember you are talking with NCSoft.
0.0000000001% Chance would be enough :p
Fixed an issue where the Tyrr Titan class' 3rd skill didn't get deleted when acquiring the similar
Frenzy and Gut skills above Level 6.

JUJI I still need clarification on this, i had a duelist with OE duelist spirit, i switched to titan and learned guts and frenzy keeping duelist spirit as well. please let me know if this "fix" will effect this.
I have guts/frenzy level 6, what do you suggest I do to not lose duelist spirit that won't cost me the price of a class change?
cashout faster
cashout faster

new patches/updates means new glitches to exploit....definately not the time to cashout...just yet.

servers need more +16 weapons :)
Q : Will toons be moved to nearest town after update ?I need to check.

I've relied on these quests to level my subs bit by bit. Can non-Ertheia races do the new Ertheia daily quests in place of these?

Is the Rocking Horse Mount coming back to the L2 Store? I didn't appreciate the fact that it was removed without notice.No, those quests are for Ertheia only.

The Rocking Horse mount is dimensional, so you can create a new character and trade it to your old one on your same account. The mount probably won't be back on the store since you can get it now for free.

Anyone from behind the servers, How many megabytes does this new update add to the current client. tyThe update from Valiance to Ertheia is around 489mb. The full client size is 17.7gb.

Ok, far i have understood about Ertheia is:

-Ertheia can't make 3 subclasses like other races.
-Ertheia can't OE their skills.
-Ertheia can have only 1 Subclass (That will became automatically an already awakened Dualclass when you do the dualclass quest) but can't receive any Subclass ticket (This mean that you will receive only 4 Dualclass tickets?).

Now, what i have not understood at all, is: WHICH Subclass (or i must say dualclass?) Ertheia CAN make and CANNOT make?

On the patch notes there is only a tiny pharagraph about it and it's not specified at all...It actually is specified. I said they can have any class as their dual class except for Iss Dominator, Tyrr Maestro, and any Ertheia classes. Notice in the screenshot of the dual class re-awakening menu below that the Ertheia classes are absent.

http://i.imgur.com/CveTUQ9.jpg

some questions:

1) In the description of the skills of ertheia wizard, for the passive skill of the weapon says it is possible to enable the use of a sword or blunt, but the description of the active skills says just mentioning, when used with a blunt; just wonder if there is lack of information in the description? (I refer to the use of the sword)

2) In the case of ertheia wizard can be considered as weapon, the use of an one-hand blunt or two-handed blunt weapon? or both? they have their value assigned in the passive skill?

3) In both classes, both Ertheia Figher as Ertheia Wizard, all skills described, will be kept when taking level up? (saying about transfer class a.k.a doing 1st, 2nd and 3rd liberations). In other words, if any skill will be Replaced while transfering class? If yes, which one could mention? I can not say whether the advanced Korean servers and their updates will be possible to enchant or over-enchant those skills in the future, so I'm curious.

4) Since two new revelation skill will be added, I wonder if there will wipe the current revelation skills that has already been learned? or will be added more chaos pormander's ?

5) On the same reasoning of the previous question, if there wipe the skills sub-class and dual-class as well as the ability system that already learned? I'll have to re-learn them again when ertheia lauches? And the fishing skills already learned, will wipe to be learned again?

6) How much data (in gigabytes) will be added with the expansion Ertheia compared to Valiance?

Thanks in advance.1. Sayha's Seer can use 1-handed swords (magic/fighter), 1-handed blunts (magic/fighter), and 2-handed blunts (magic/fighter).
2. All active skills work with the weapons I mentioned above.
3. The skills remain for both Ertheia classes. There are no replacement skills similar to the other non-Ertheia classes.
4. There shouldn't be a wipe for revelation skills and no Chaos Pomander will be given.
5. These skills will not be wiped. The Knight Frenzy skill that is deleted will be compensated with Immortal Scrolls (based on enchant level).
6. Around 489mb.

I got 1 question ,dont know if missed it while i was reading the patch notes,that regards to the raid points.Will it be some sort of new bracelet that will give +3 of the newly introduced stats aka LUC/CHA ?No, the Aria NPC does not have any new bracelets for the new stats. However, there are new bracelets with the LUC/CHA stats from the dimensional barrier instance.


Superior instinct Mastery work only when equiped with a crossbow or ther is a mistake and it's bow/crossbow.
Crossbow is an exclusive weapon for kamael race...if this skill can be used with crossbow only...this means that triksters from other races (human,elf,de....) except kamel can't benefit of this skill ?The passive skill only works with a Crossbow.


Will someone that already has a character, for example Human Male, be able to make an Ertheia class Eviscerator or Sayha's Seer as a Dualclass? And if yes, how? Any new quest? paying 100kk adena if you already have a Dualclass? Free change of Dualclass as when Goddess Of Destruction came out because it is a whole new race/classes?Thank you.
No one can make an Ertheia class as your dual class. The Ertheia classes are restricted to your main class.

I have two armor sets ready for my future Ertheia character: one with maid outfit appearance and the other with swimsuit appearance. Will I be able to equip them?No, you will get a message saying your Ertheia character is not eligible to equip the armor sets.

Hello,

Since we got a lot of changes in classes.
in this update, chars will receive chaos Essence?No chaos essence will be given out.

Does the new enchant glows apply to D-S80 weapons too?Yes, the new enchant glows apply to all grades. Unfortunately, anyone that has an old +15 No-grade weapon from the auction broker will lose their glow completely.

About tauti wepons can we put Augment and Enchant weapon or not?
TyYou cannot enchant or put an augment on Tauti weapons.
I'd still like to know an answer to the issue of botting and script users? Is there any plans or a **** in the wind thought about this problem? I get that it's always going to be a problem,but just putting out there for the millionth time.
Since I don't think there was a mention of it in the notes, will the Ertheia classes, upon their 3rd Liberation, be able to choose 2 revelation skills like the awakened classes?
I'd still like to know an answer to the issue of botting and script users? Is there any plans or a **** in the wind thought about this problem? I get that it's always going to be a problem,but just putting out there for the millionth time.

your too funny, whats funnier is what the leadership of this game is doing when they read something like this...

here is a sample: we ban thousands and continue to ban everyday, bots have been around since before the game was launched(beta), etc...

I bet if they eliminated server transfers the game would get cleaner(server transfers give the toon a clean slate and are the main way bots prosper imo)

script users....loooool!
your too funny, whats funnier is what the leadership of this game is doing when they read something like this...

here is a sample: we ban thousands and continue to ban everyday, bots have been around since before the game was launched(beta), etc...

I bet if they eliminated server transfers the game would get cleaner(server transfers give the toon a clean slate and are the main way bots prosper imo)

script users....loooool!

eh I had to stick it out there for kicks.
"The ability to use the ESC key to skip a cutscene has been removed due to client performance issues."

I wanted to highlight this one patch note that will go live with the Ertheia launch on Wednesday. It will affect ALL cutscenes (Spezion, Freya, the starting cutscenes for new characters...etc) :mad:

This is a temporary fix for now. We are requesting a new fix that will hopefully allow everyone to skip cutscenes.
I ever tought it has ever been like that.. isn't it?

Why would a magic not being blocked by the shield? They are still "physical" (i mean.. not etereal, like ghosts) attacks.. they are not ghosts, they don't pass trought your armor..

If you throw a rock i can parry with a shield.. same with a fire ball or a water ball or whatever it's..

Shield doesnt block magic, the same way Armor doesnt add u m def on most cases (robe adds m def). Dont apply real life logic to l2.
The Rocking Horse mount is dimensional, so you can create a new character and trade it to your old one on your same account. The mount probably won't be back on the store since you can get it now for free.


Free for new characters. Full accounts with untradable and/or non-dimensional items that will never be available again are screwed.

Party pooper.
"The ability to use the ESC key to skip a cutscene has been removed due to client performance issues."

I wanted to highlight this one patch note that will go live with the Ertheia launch on Wednesday. It will affect ALL cutscenes (Spezion, Freya, the starting cutscenes for new characters...etc) :mad:

This is a temporary fix for now. We are requesting a new fix that will hopefully allow everyone to skip cutscenes.
I was wondering the reason for this... Hopefully we get this feature back, I hate watching Awakening cutscenes and I want them to be skippable someday.
"The ability to use the ESC key to skip a cutscene has been removed due to client performance issues."

I wanted to highlight this one patch note that will go live with the Ertheia launch on Wednesday. It will affect ALL cutscenes (Spezion, Freya, the starting cutscenes for new characters...etc) :mad:

This is a temporary fix for now. We are requesting a new fix that will hopefully allow everyone to skip cutscenes.



Means the first quest after character creation just got a little longer. Ugh.


If we can't ESC past cutscenes, is there any way to have less of them?
Means the first quest after character creation just got a little longer. Ugh.


If we can't ESC past cutscenes, is there any way to have less of them?

He said it is just a temporary fix, just deal with it for now :/
NC should make a one simple checkbox in game client settings to disable any cutscene in game, like it is done for years already in some, khm, programs, you know.
I mean, it is really easy.
hi, in the korean server you only need the stone for change bloody to dark
why here you need all the mats again? its a lot :(
Juji when you ask about the wierd behaviour of the mcrit stat can you also ask when int will raise critical damage as it is supposed to?

THIS!
More details here: http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=267175

Also I'd be interested in L2 store updates, any plans to bring back the Agathion XP Bottle and/or Brooch items?

All in all I like what a read and I'm looking forward to the Update.
Orc Mage related characters looking awkward when they sit on the Throne.
Don't fix this, it looks like a true shaman. Or is it just me who thinks that way? :D
o The Kamael race can now select the classes of other races as their sub-class.

Gender Change Service Rules & Requirements

The Gender Change Service is not available to Kamael characters, due to their gender-specific classes.

I this update we will be able to change kamael ?


Superior Instinct Mastery : Lv.4: PvP damage + 15%, and P. Atk. + 15% when equipped with a crossbow.

Full bonus work only with crossbow? or crossbow bonus extra is only this 15% p.atk.?
Whit bow trickster's will take 15% pvp damage too?

This is important to all yul trickter, i think may be 95% of kamael have a bow... so now we need to take xbow for the pasive skill??? prepare chaos essences for me pls.... :(
Hi GMs :)

I have 2 Chaos Essence in my feoh wiz, and wondering, its stay in my inventory or the update will remove it?
Question about Yul trikster

Superior instinct Mastery work only when equiped with a crossbow or ther is a mistake and it's bow/crossbow.
Crossbow is an exclusive weapon for kamael race...if this skill can be used with crossbow only...this means that triksters from other races (human,elf,de....) except kamel can't benefit of this skill ?

The crossbows after R-grade is not a Kamael Exclusive weapons even dwarves can use them

I have two armor sets ready for my future Ertheia character: one with maid outfit appearance and the other with swimsuit appearance. Will I be able to equip them?

Metal Suit Outfit, Santa suit Outfit and Formal Wear can be used with armor appearance stones on the Ertheia.
Ninja, Swimsuit, Maid, Military and Tirbal Warrior can not be used at this time.

You can not equip those two sets at this moment I'm afraid
on this update will there still be problems on launching the game or it will be fixed?
What is the skill reuse on arcane protection?

For ertheia dual classes what race will they be. ie. spectral dancer iss. or can you pick any?

(Not sure if this was answered but didn't see it) Do the runes for learning new skills drop off of only certain raids or all raids?

Supposedly in Korea they are lowering the number of toons needed to enter raids to 45 can you please look into it. As it stands right now highly unlikely this can be done "legitally" in game with the 3 client limitation without multi-clans working together therefore discouraging pvp.
My God, no male gender option for the new race, really? Who came up with that amazingly silly idea.

My expectations and hopes for making a new character just plummeted to zero; guess I better cancel this character deletion I started five odd days ago to make room for a new character that I won't be making now, thanks! :mad:
For ertheia dual classes what race will they be. ie. spectral dancer iss. or can you pick any?
Ertheia can take as dual class any race's class except for Maestro and Dominator.

(Not sure if this was answered but didn't see it) Do the runes for learning new skills drop off of only certain raids or all raids?
Rune Stones drop from instanced bosses.

Supposedly in Korea they are lowering the number of toons needed to enter raids to 45 can you please look into it. As it stands right now highly unlikely this can be done "legitally" in game with the 3 client limitation without multi-clans working together therefore discouraging pvp.
Not gonna happen.

Answers are on the previous page, for Heaven's sake... http://boards.lineage2.com/showpost.php?p=3443381&postcount=172
Question

I see in patch notes the drop in certain aeras has change, so how can we verify this new table? Its was a nerf drop (again)?

If i have 3rd Job skills i'll loose?
What time Ertheia update will be available?
This update is bringing any update on l2 store? Like the dark assasin app? I saw all servers have it alredy and ncwest not :/
What time Ertheia update will be available?

Maintenance time.
Ertheia can take as dual class any race's class except for Maestro and Dominator.


Rune Stones drop from instanced bosses.


Not gonna happen.

Answers are on the previous page, for Heaven's sake... http://boards.lineage2.com/showpost.php?p=3443381&postcount=172

Don't forget that they can not have Kamaels or Ertheia classes as duals
So, after tomorrow my f u ken spoiler class will word something or still mobs will give boo ll ss woth plunder/mag and noting change ? :D
Answers to questions have been added to first page in case you missed them.


Free for new characters. Full accounts with untradable and/or non-dimensional items that will never be available again are screwed.

Party pooper.PM me if this is a serious issue for you.

THIS!
More details here: http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=267175

Also I'd be interested in L2 store updates, any plans to bring back the Agathion XP Bottle and/or Brooch items?

All in all I like what a read and I'm looking forward to the Update.I'll make a separate request for the INT stat critical damage.

Those items will return, but I don't know when.

Hi GMs :)

I have 2 Chaos Essence in my feoh wiz, and wondering, its stay in my inventory or the update will remove it?As long as the Chaos Essence are not on a timer that expires tomorrow, you should be fine :)

on this update will there still be problems on launching the game or it will be fixed?If you have issues launching the new update then please contact support (http://support.lineage2.com/).

This update is bringing any update on l2 store? Like the dark assasin app? I saw all servers have it alredy and ncwest not :/There will be an update to the store. You will just have to wait until tomorrow to see. Dark Assassin....only I can wear that :rolleyes:
There will be an update to the store. You will just have to wait until tomorrow to see. Dark Assassin....only I can wear that :rolleyes:




:( Want the hood!!!!!!!!!!


Please let all of us know what timeline you will follow as far as taking server down for patch so some can effect a proper use of pots/runes. I know a lot are taking advantage of the 300% and know they would like to know if server is going down early.

Again: any chance of ingame events with patch or just consider the patch as the event.

Thanks for trying to answer all our questions.
Juji,
Chaos Essence will remain at L2 store, right??
Juji,
Chaos Essence will remain at L2 store, right??
Yes, it will remain in the store.
if they haven't they will probably be removing the seed talisman upgrade packs. just because they are releasing a new version they don't want the pay to win to come into effect.

i wonder if there will be new hero coin werards.
What about othell? Are them still killing healers from 1 hit in this update?
Are dark stones going to start dropping in Hellbound?
A: It works similar to the Sayha shirt teleport skill. You summon a portal that lasts 30 seconds and then you can teleport back to that portal with another skill. There is a limit as to how far you can be from the portal to use the teleport skill.

Dark Eternal Stone Fragments drop in Hellbound from Mirage Vipers (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=263357).

I want to make sure I understand this correctly:

1/1000 Chance on a mob for a Fragment which you need 1000 of to make a single stone.

For 1 Eternal PvP stone, it would take approximately 1,000,000 Vipers for a single stone. Then you need what is it, 18?, stones for a chest piece.

Were talking 18 Million mobs for 1 60% chance at a dark piece.

Can we at least have the drop changed to a full stone, which would require killing of only 18,000 mobs?

Also maybe add dark amaranthine stones to a drop table somewhere?
I am sorry if this question was but what about museum statistics?
if they haven't they will probably be removing the seed talisman upgrade packs. just because they are releasing a new version they don't want the pay to win to come into effect.

i wonder if there will be new hero coin werards.

how many players will risk losing a 10b adena item? and those that would ncwest probably wants their money so I doubt they would remove the packs.
I am sorry if this question was but what about museum statistics?
You don't want them turned back on, trust me.
Not sure, if I noticed it anywhere being stated under the fixes, but will the clan leader bug with the contestable clan halls be fixed in this update?
I want to make sure I understand this correctly:

1/1000 Chance on a mob for a Fragment which you need 1000 of to make a single stone.

For 1 Eternal PvP stone, it would take approximately 1,000,000 Vipers for a single stone. Then you need what is it, 18?, stones for a chest piece.

Were talking 18 Million mobs for 1 60% chance at a dark piece.

Can we at least have the drop changed to a full stone, which would require killing of only 18,000 mobs?

Also maybe add dark amaranthine stones to a drop table somewhere?You now have a really good chance of getting the full Dark Eternal stone from killing the RBs in Land of Chaos, Gainak, and Raider's Crossroads. Krogel, Nerva Chief Turakan, Tebot, Tegaffe, Thesakar, and Theor.

I am sorry if this question was but what about museum statistics?The system is not being used any more.
will the new update require the same or a better system?
and will you decrease again the maximum people / server limit?
will the new update require the same or a better system?
and will you decrease again the maximum people / server limit?
It will be the same requirements.

The server limit will not be changed.
PM me if this is a serious issue for you.

Sure thing.
in the korean server you only need the stone for change bloody to dark.
Why here you need all the mats again?(GIANT ENERGY GEM R ETC)
i have some item in dim npc, it will disappear after update? and what about mail?
in the korean server you only need the stone for change bloody to dark.
Why here you need all the mats again?(GIANT ENERGY GEM R ETC)I'll ask the dev team about that in our next meeting.

i have some item in dim npc, it will disappear after update? and what about mail?
No, mail and items in the Dimensional Merchant will NOT be removed after the update.
Super Instinct Mastery only applies to Crossbow. Stats do not increase if you equip a bow for this passive skill.


Hi Juji,

Can you check not only stats(p.atk) but "PvP damage + 15%" with bow too, please? There are many Tricksters using bow instead of crossbow now, so in case "pvp damage" bonus isnt working for bow many ppl will be disappointed.
Hi Juji,

Can you check not only stats(p.atk) but "PvP damage + 15%" with bow too, please? There are many Tricksters using bow instead of crossbow now, so in case "pvp damage" bonus isnt working for bow many ppl will be disappointed.PvP damage +15% works fine with bow. Just the stat increase is not applied when a bow is equipped. Updated first post to reflect that.
Good news for tricksters, thank you!
No, the Aria NPC does not have any new bracelets for the new stats. However, there are new bracelets with the LUC/CHA stats from the dimensional barrier instance.


Ty ,for the reply Juji hope we get that in the future :cool:
in the korean server you only need the stone for change bloody to dark.
Why here you need all the mats again?(GIANT ENERGY GEM R ETC)

In Korea you need the GE and the gems too.

Juji, is the issue with the unbinding Eternal Helmet with Elcyum not working still present in the next update?
Ty ,for the reply Juji hope we get that in the future :cool:
Don't hold your breath and start farming the Dimensional Barrier.
For someone being 99 you apparently want the easy mode back into the game.
If I put a char up for deletion before the maintenance, will the new time get applied to it after the maintenance or will it stay with the old one?


Not sure, if I noticed it anywhere being stated under the fixes, but will the clan leader bug with the contestable clan halls be fixed in this update?

bump on this
hi,

will there come any item to change dualclass without delvl to 85?
hi,

will there come any item to change dualclass without delvl to 85?

Nothing for now
Why did they had to change the color of enchant on weapons :(
I do like increased soulshot damage from enchanting weapons tho!
World chat function is good also, will help to buy/sell.
Cant use ESC key to skip cutscenes anymore which is kind of annoying.
Right click on player names is here!
*Fixed an issue where characters that were moved with the keyboard stopped while facing backwards* SWEET THANKS!

Seems like a decent update, but sounds like a lot of those fixes are from ertheia update from the future, as if we got 1 update and 1 bug patch.
You now have a really good chance of getting the full Dark Eternal stone from killing the RBs in Land of Chaos, Gainak, and Raider's Crossroads. Krogel, Nerva Chief Turakan, Tebot, Tegaffe, Thesakar, and Theor.

juji thats really good, and now lets talk about normal legit players where they can farm this dark stones? or frst go and ban all this bots on all servers who farm it 24/7 on bot already have reported alot of them, go check magmeld ther is 60+ chars and 3 ppls active "maybe 3" or will we get finnaly any antiTower/ZR ?? if we get any working antibot, i take my words Back :o
hi,

will there come any item to change dualclass without delvl to 85?

also want to know when we will can buy this, w8ing for this some months and some friends as well, hope devs already finished it :rolleyes:
I apologize if this has been asked, as I just didn't have time to look/read as I'm half way out the door to work..... Are the Path to Awakening items that we already claimed from the site, but have not taken out of the dimensional merchant (I leave mine in there until I need, or decide which character on each account I want to give them to) going to remain there after the update? I realize the site itself won't be the way to get items anymore, but what about the ones we've already claimed, but just left in the Dim merchant? Thanks.
Why did they had to change the color of enchant on weapons :(
I do like increased soulshot damage from enchanting weapons tho!
World chat function is good also, will help to buy/sell.
Cant use ESC key to skip cutscenes anymore which is kind of annoying.
Right click on player names is here!
*Fixed an issue where characters that were moved with the keyboard stopped while facing backwards* SWEET THANKS!

Seems like a decent update, but sounds like a lot of those fixes are from ertheia update from the future, as if we got 1 update and 1 bug patch.

Seems like a RIP update. Many things in this expansion will make it just like every other typical MMO e.g. the world chat function. Although I only found out the other day after not doing a class transfer in a good long while, that they made the transfer quests pathetically short and simple to the point they might as well just automatically change class; just totally lost the feeling of earning your class.

So much for me always telling my friends that Lineage always kept that feeling of accomplishment, what a joke that is now.
The items remain on the Dim Merchant, you simply can't go to the website and claim unclaimed rewards anymore.

Have you noticed the world chat is limited to once per day and only for fairly high level toons?
You now have a really good chance of getting the full Dark Eternal stone from killing the RBs in Land of Chaos, Gainak, and Raider's Crossroads. Krogel, Nerva Chief Turakan, Tebot, Tegaffe, Thesakar, and Theor.



You also have a really good chance to be killed within a few minutes by a certain fully scripted party after engaging combat with any of these monsters on Naia.
PvP damage +15% works fine with bow. Just the stat increase is not applied when a bow is equipped. Updated first post to reflect that.



Can you do a LAB with this Juji? pls.

Tks!
How many rune stones are dropped by raid at the time? Or is it an individual reward?
Items can be sent to characters in the same account through the Alchemy NPC.
Can this be done with Immo event gear that we get via Mentor guide?
How many rune stones are dropped by raid at the time? Or is it an individual reward?

Can this be done with Immo event gear that we get via Mentor guide?

1 per raid 100 percent drop. Juji already answered this.
I know this is a little late, but I just found this weird line in the patch notes:



The rate at which 'Whale Blubber' can be obtained from whales has been decreased. The acquisition rates of the other fishes have been increased accordingly.

Isn't this miswritten?
It was really low in the first place (43 out of 10.000) , but even more decrease, why?
See Juji's test of obtaining whale blubber:
http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=263581 (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=263581)

EDIT: (After seeing juji's reply)
I didn't see that, my aplogies.

I have re-checked the maintenance notes after Valiance and didn't find the Whale stuff mentioned anywhere. :/
Seems like a RIP update. Many things in this expansion will make it just like every other typical MMO e.g. the world chat function. Although I only found out the other day after not doing a class transfer in a good long while, that they made the transfer quests pathetically short and simple to the point they might as well just automatically change class; just totally lost the feeling of earning your class.

So much for me always telling my friends that Lineage always kept that feeling of accomplishment, what a joke that is now.
Haha I remember it took me a year to do my 3rd class transfer :D so yeah I agree with you.
Juji, is the issue with the unbinding Eternal Helmet with Elcyum not working still present in the next update?By unbinding with Elcyum, you mean using the R99 Unbind Scroll on a bound Eternal Helmet? I tried that and received a Blessed Eternal Helmet on the first try.

If I put a char up for deletion before the maintenance, will the new time get applied to it after the maintenance or will it stay with the old one?
Your deletion time won't update and you will have 7 days left. Might as well put the character on deletion after the maintenance.

will there come any item to change dualclass without delvl to 85?Unfortunately, there won't be any dualclass change item or service for a while. It takes lots of development work apparently, but we're still pushing them for it.

I apologize if this has been asked, as I just didn't have time to look/read as I'm half way out the door to work..... Are the Path to Awakening items that we already claimed from the site, but have not taken out of the dimensional merchant (I leave mine in there until I need, or decide which character on each account I want to give them to) going to remain there after the update? I realize the site itself won't be the way to get items anymore, but what about the ones we've already claimed, but just left in the Dim merchant? Thanks.
The items remain on the Dim Merchant, you simply can't go to the website and claim unclaimed rewards anymore.
Answer above. Not deleted.

Can you do a LAB with this Juji? pls.

Bow without Superior Instinct: 135,881 Damage
Bow with Superior Instinct: 142,676 Damage

How many rune stones are dropped by raid at the time? Or is it an individual reward?

Can this be done with Immo event gear that we get via Mentor guide?1 Rune Stone drop per raid.

Immortal gear from Mentor is still character bound and cannot be exchanged dimensionally.
I know this is a little late, but I just found this weird line in the patch notes:



The rate at which 'Whale Blubber' can be obtained from whales has been decreased. The acquisition rates of the other fishes have been increased accordingly.

Isn't this miswritten?
It was really low in the first place (43 out of 10.000) , but even more decrease, why?
See Juji's test of obtaining whale blubber:
http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=263581
(http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=263581)This was already patched before Ertheia.
Who see the new welcome screen in log? :) and new sound also added when you press enter :)
One question,

What are the maximum values ​​assigned to new stats: LUC (luck) and CHA (charisma)? (I suppose they can not be approached the most by a player)

And if possible, to know what each point of CHA (charisma) increases the combat status, in an interval limit range of five in five points or ten for ten points.

Thanks in advance.
Q : Will toons be moved to nearest town after update ?Characters will not be moved to the nearest town after the update.

Everyone that logs any character will have to go through a new cutscene (cannot be skipped). Do not ALT+TAB during this time because a gray screen will appear if you do and the only way to fix it is by restarting the client.
woohoo cut scene :D

p.s make my seraph robes pink and fluffy :D
By unbinding with Elcyum, you mean using the R99 Unbind Scroll on a bound Eternal Helmet? I tried that and received a Blessed Eternal Helmet on the first try.
Yes, that was it. Was that fixed, or you just got Juji luck? (If you remember, a few months ago, unbinding with elcyum would give a blessed item with the same rate as not using elcyum)


This was already patched before Ertheia.
What do you mean by that? Patched into what?
Maybe you could update the lab test you have on that to clarify things?
I have posted the Known Issues List (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=268470) for Ertheia.

One question,

What are the maximum values ​​assigned to new stats: LUC (luck) and CHA (charisma)? (I suppose they can not be approached the most by a player)

And if possible, to know what each point of CHA (charisma) increases the combat status, in an interval limit range of five in five points or ten for ten points.

Thanks in advance.Request a test.

Yes, that was it. Was that fixed, or you just got Juji luck? (If you remember, a few months ago, unbinding with elcyum would give a blessed item with the same rate as not using elcyum) It should be fixed now. Not Juji luck.

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What do you mean by that? Patched into what?
Maybe you could update the lab test you have on that to clarify things?I will redo the test to clarify it.
Deleted.
I will redo the test to clarify it.


Thanks.
Characters will not be moved to the nearest town after the update.

Everyone that logs any character will have to go through a new cutscene (cannot be skipped). Do not ALT+TAB during this time because a gray screen will appear if you do and the only way to fix it is by restarting the client.


so... make sure all clients are up and running before you log into the character... do the cut scenes run while in the background if the client loads in the background?
as in click the character start, and switch screens before the cut scene begins?

only seems a little annoying.
well as long as it's not a 30 minute cut scene.
Juji will you post the effects that CHA icreases in values? If you have a static 1000 p/m atk, p/m atk speed, hp/cp/mp/pdef & mdef, how much would it increase by 1 and 10 points?
Hi Juji,

I have a tyrr 99, and everytime in parties i have to delet many buffs cause we tyrr have many self buffs, but this week, leveling my dual class sigel phoenix knight lvl 98, i didnt delet some buffs like, Iss resistences and when healer used recharge + balance heal, and i activated uds and other things , buffs went to the third bar and i didnt loose the first buff. Why i lose on tyrr and dont loose on sigel (talking about same quantity of buffs)... They will fix this ?

Other question is about second wind skill that regen hp , when i have full buffs + feral ogre cry, weapon with health (tauti axe) + rose buffs, i have more than 120k of hp, and i discover the second wind skill dont regen the 35% when u have more than 105 or 110k of hp.... The skill and maximum hp increases but not the regen of the skill.