Discussion: Helios Content Update

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Is there any word on the upgrades of epic jewellery as it was mentioned in preliminary notes but not final.
any chance skills will get a reset ?

and receive immortals how in some update happens ?
Is there any word on the upgrades of epic jewellery as it was mentioned in preliminary notes but not final.The upgrades for the epic jewels were only for Korea and are not in our version.

any chance skills will get a reset ?

and receive immortals how in some update happens ?No skills are reset.
Some1 was said, eviscerator pve damage reduced, but cant find it in patch note, so it was a lie?
The upgrades for the epic jewels were only for Korea and are not in our version.


And you tell us that just now? Like you say it will be up on the preliminary patch notes and now it won't? You do realize that it completely screwed a lot of ppl that went for your words?

I won't get a big hit with this but i know a few ppl that got screwed in a major way!

I have no words to describe how bad this looks. Unbelievable!
Some1 was said, eviscerator pve damage reduced, but cant find it in patch note, so it was a lie?Might be referring to this patch note. I will double check with QA to confirm that it is the correct skill since Air Light is a buff and not an attack skill.


Fixed an issue where Air Light skill’s Atk. Damage is excessively high.
Please use this thread for discussion about the Helios Content Update and Final Patch Notes (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=289486).

And for this we w8 so long?? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: This is the first version of the update and still cut off. :D:D:D:D
The upgrades for the epic jewels were only for Korea and are not in our version.

Ouch... that's going to hurt some people.
Ouch... that's going to hurt some people.

WTS 2 warehouses full with epics.

Thanks ncsoft!
The upgrades for the epic jewels were only for Korea and are not in our version.

!!!!!!!Please!!!!!!!!! ...do yourselves a favor a don't release PRELIMINARY Patch Notes; they are useless :mad:
Juji did you have a chance to go through Grand Crusade Patch, and whether Accessory Solvents would be added in NA with GC patch. Otherwise, many of us blew our money and ncoins on literally nothing as it turns out.
Juji did you have a chance to go through Grand Crusade Patch, and whether Accessory Solvents would be added in NA with GC patch. Otherwise, many of us blew our money and ncoins on literally nothing as it turns out.

W8 i have answer for this question

The upgrades for the epic jewels were only for Korea and are not in our version.
W8 i have answer for this question

"our version" and we are having Helios patch not Grand Crusade. Asking about Grand Crusade patch.
"our version" and we are having Helios patch not Grand Crusade. Asking about Grand Crusade patch.

Well i think this will be the same like with World Oly ;)
Well i think this will be the same like with World Oly ;)

I would not be surprised, on the other hand, the World Olympiad topic is a little bit touchy, if you consider that people on Zaken would be in a huge disadvantage compared to any other server.
The upgrades for the epic jewels were only for Korea and are not in our version.

Such a troll.. you published preliminary patch note few MONTHS ago with this new up grade jewelery system and few hours before the update you saying this is for korea only?!?
It is not serious.
Such a troll.. you published preliminary patch note few MONTHS ago with this new up grade jewelery system and few hours before the update you saying this is for korea only?!?
It is not serious.
What you don't have read what was written in the Helios Preliminary Patch Notes?
The following list of preliminary patch notes and functions are not final. Game content and localization of terms may change before this update launches.
I hope that preliminary patch notes false information was done on purpose of increase selling of abundance boxes.
What you don't have read what was written in the Helios Preliminary Patch Notes?
The following list of preliminary patch notes and functions are not final. Game content and localization of terms may change before this update launches.

I saw this sentence yes, but this change is not a little change they surely know from start that this content was for korea only and they said nothing until now.

Between i saw that cheaters risk perma ban and you are still here Nikobot so we can consider that NCwest team just dont care about honnesty and the respect of their rules/customers.

They looks like drug dealers, they just care to sell products whatever the quality.
I saw this sentence yes, but this change is not a little change they surely know from start that this content was for korea only and they said nothing until now.

Between i saw that cheaters risk perma ban and you are still here Nikobot so we can consider that NCwest team just dont care about honnesty and the respect of their rules/customers.

They looks like drug dealers, they just care to sell products whatever the quality.

Kid they are not like drug dealers you are only stupid it all. BTW cry more kid i hope one day you will stop i keep fingers.
The upgrades for the epic jewels were only for Korea and are not in our version.

Lol this thing just destroyed all my will to play, me and my friends invested all adena on jewels following patch notes information

To be honest i don't know why i am surprised Juji and his team failed one more time after long row of failures in past

Next time please better don't do anything you will do less damage than with your actions, or at least call your patch notes "false notes"
Have you changed the game system requirements with this patch?
Kid they are not like drug dealers you are only stupid it all. BTW cry more kid i hope one day you will stop i keep fingers.

"Kid" you are funny. Like a kid i consider lineage][ as a game and like a nice kid i never and i'll never cheat into a game because i don't fear to loose.
May you can say the same? Sure not because you prefer lie to yourself and consider you are a good player while it was a program who manage all actions of all your cp members.

You can't imagine how much i don't care about you are thinking about me, i reply to you just because you are ridiculous and you make me laugh.

Btw iam not crying i just expose facts, in real life i am joiner, my own boss, and i consider my customers with a lot of respect and honnesty because thanks to them i can feed my family. I just expect the same from NcWest team.
I have said it so many times.. just cause korea get something doesnt mean we will get it.

Preliminary patchnotes are just that = preliminary.

QQ.
In the final patchnotes theres no info about the Zodiac agathions obtained by fishing . Any info on that ? Was only for Korean ? You forgot to added it in the final patchnotes?
"Kid" you are funny. Like a kid i consider lineage][ as a game and like a nice kid i never and i'll never cheat into a game because i don't fear to loose.
May you can say the same? Sure not because you prefer lie to yourself and consider you are a good player while it was a program who manage all actions of all your cp members.

You can't imagine how much i don't care about you are thinking about me, i reply to you just because you are ridiculous and you make me laugh.

Btw iam not crying i just expose facts, in real life i am joiner, my own boss, and i consider my customers with a lot of respect and honnesty because thanks to them i can feed my family. I just expect the same from NcWest team.

Why do you keep crying you have a wet diaper? :eek:
Boring conversation. :rolleyes:


Read this 200000000 times "The following list of preliminary patch notes and functions are not final. Game content and localization of terms may change before this update launches" and stop cry.


They wrote this clearly is not their fault that you can not analyze what you read and draw from that information. I have not bought a 2000 Potion of Protection, and I had to buy because the price would jump from 500 000 to 4 000 000 but was waiting for the final version of Patch Notes. Start using your brain to anticipate what might happen.
Why do you keep crying you have a wet diaper? :eek:
Boring conversation. :rolleyes:


Read this 200000000 times "The following list of preliminary patch notes and functions are not final. Game content and localization of terms may change before this update launches" and stop cry.


They wrote this clearly is not their fault that you can not analyze what you read and draw from that information. I have not bought a 2000 Potion of Protection, and I had to buy because the price would jump from 500 000 to 4 000 000 but was waiting for the final version of Patch Notes. Start using your brain to anticipate what might happen.

Well it seems that the only words you are able to use are "cry , baby ,kid"
I am not complaining about this jewels upgrade itself because i dont care and i had not anticipated this, but many ppl did.
I just complaining about the lack of professionalism from NcWest.

Your brain is too damaged man, take a rest.
The upgrades for the epic jewels were only for Korea and are not in our version.





Well... I get it, these preliminary patchnotes we had were not final, but there is a difference between misspell, translation error, and cutting out content.

it's like it would say 'these scrolls in helios will give 3x quest XP so buy them now as we won't sell them in helios', and then 'yeah, you bought these scrolls, but it won't work as we said, sorry for misinformation it was Korea only'

I'm not in it deeply, only couple of bil, was looking forward to upgrade some jewels but it won't bite me as much, but man, some people will be :mad:


At least you kept in looped macros in, kudos.
I dont understand why you qq about how much you spend/invest and now NcSoft will not include enhance option for rare epics...
FFS tell me you need Bless Valakas necklace? answer is yes! You need Baium soul?answer is yes!or any rare epics from that list? Sure you need!
Now tell me, if you have those items ....what was your EXTRA investment? Zero!

Ohhh, mby for example you bought all Baium rings from market intending to sell them later and now nobody want them coz of new acc coming in Helios. That is bad, rly bad :D Im sorry for your loss!
Lol this thing just destroyed all my will to play, me and my friends invested all adena on jewels following patch notes information

To be honest i don't know why i am surprised Juji and his team failed one more time after long row of failures in past

Next time please better don't do anything you will do less damage than with your actions, or at least call your patch notes "false notes"

How can you and your friends be so stupid to make such serious plans upon the information of the PRELIMINARY patch notes? :eek::confused:
The upgrades for the epic jewels were only for Korea and are not in our version.


Unbelievable. You couldn't have let us known this before this event?
What's the point of preliminary patch notes if you're going to put false information in it? Missing information I would understand, but false?

There are tons of people have been misled and bought ncoin, used all their adena, even selling some of their equipment, to be able to get jewels during this event. We're talking many many billions here and I know several players that will be quitting if this stands.
Unbelievable. What's the point of preliminary patch notes if you're going to put false information in it? Missing information I would understand, but false?

There are tons of people have been misled and bought ncoin, used all their adena, even selling some of their equipment, to be able to get jewels during this event. We're talking many many billions here and I know several players that will be quitting if this stands.

"The following list of preliminary patch notes and functions are not final. Game content and localization of terms may change before this update launches."

It's all their fault. First you must read, then you must think very good. In the end you see it's gamble and you choose to gamble. The thing about gamble is that sometimes you lose !
Unbelievable. What's the point of preliminary patch notes if you're going to put false information in it? Missing information I would understand, but false?

There are tons of people have been misled and bought ncoin, used all their adena, even selling some of their equipment, to be able to get jewels during this event. We're talking many many billions here and I know several players that will be quitting if this stands.

the Preliminary notes said they were ripped from korea and everything was subject to change. You "tons of people" took a dumb risk and it didn't pay off, now stop crying about it.
Unbelievable. What's the point of preliminary patch notes if you're going to put false information in it? Missing information I would understand, but false?

There are tons of people have been misled and bought ncoin, used all their adena, even selling some of their equipment, to be able to get jewels during this event. We're talking many many billions here and I know several players that will be quitting if this stands.

What mislead? What false information? The function is in the game, yet it's exclusively just for the Korean build and not for the oversea ones. Patch notes had to include everything since they were "PRELIMINARY", it even says they're not final and things CAN change. It's their own fault for reading too much into it. Noone forced them to buy Ncoins, noone forced them to use up all their Adena, noone forced them to sell their equipment. Only simpletons would do things like this.

As for the quitting part, I'll pray for you poor souls, that the door on your way out will not hit you too hard, to leave you with some everlasting consequences, for more stupid stuff that you might do elsewhere.
"The following list of preliminary patch notes and functions are not final. Game content and localization of terms may change before this update launches."

It's all their fault. First you must read, then you must think very good. In the end you see it's gamble and you choose to gamble. The thing about gamble is that sometimes you lose !
They've had several months to bring us updated information, but they've chosen to wait until the very last day to give us this crucial bit of information. If you can't see the intent of making money of this event by purposely misleading their customers, then you are really naive.
They've had several months to bring us updated information, but they've chosen to wait until the very last day to give us this crucial bit of information. If you can't see the intent of making money of this event by purposely misleading their customers, then you are really naive.

The people, that went with it are the naive ones, without even thinking about it for a second. What if we won't get it? Not like yeah, we'll definetly have eeeeeeeverything. Get real.
Juji, please, put patchnotes into some PUBLIC server, for example - lineage2.com/notes/helios.pdf

otherwise those without forum reg(these are at least 95% of players) or banned forum acc cannot even download and read it...

Also, what is the point of restricting banned forum acc to READ forum? Just ridiculous. Let them read and download files
They've had several months to bring us updated information, but they've chosen to wait until the very last day to give us this crucial bit of information. If you can't see the intent of making money of this event by purposely misleading their customers, then you are really naive.

What i saw was long time crying players about patch notes. And the staff gave them what have now and warned them that it may change later. Maybe the staff wouldnt post this preliminary patch notes if the players didn't ask so much for it. So they post it, and write "Don't believe in everything you read in this preliminary patch notes", but you choose to believe.

Maybe they did it on purpose, maybe they didn't. I saw such option to make money from preliminary patch notes, but maybe they didn't think about it. They focking warned you about changes ! So who is the naive ?

I personally read it and said "Okay i will wait for the final patch notes" i also read much information in other forums, so i didn't take any action. Because i know we not always get what Korea have and i don't really like to gamble, but very rare i do and accept the consequences after, because was my choice.
I dont understand why you qq about how much you spend/invest and now NcSoft will not include enhance option for rare epics...
FFS tell me you need Bless Valakas necklace? answer is yes! You need Baium soul?answer is yes!or any rare epics from that list? Sure you need!
Now tell me, if you have those items ....what was your EXTRA investment? Zero!

I usually dont lol at ppl. but I'll make an exception for you.

lol
What i saw was long time crying players about patch notes. And the staff gave them what have now and warned them that it may change later. Maybe the staff wouldnt post this preliminary patch notes if the players didn't ask so much for it. So they post it, and write "Don't believe in everything you read in this preliminary patch notes", but you choose to believe.

Maybe they did it on purpose, maybe they didn't. I saw such option to make money from preliminary patch notes, but maybe they didn't think about it. They focking warned you about changes ! So who is the naive ?

I personally read it and said "Okay i will wait for the final patch notes" i also read much information in other forums, so i didn't take any action. Because i know we not always get what Korea have and i don't really like to gamble, but very rare i do and accept the consequences after, because was my choice.

Indeed.
The best thing? these people read patchnotes before others and bought up large stacks of cheap jewelry so they could resell higher after the patch!
Just look at my quote above this post.
Tough luck!
The people, that went with it are the naive ones, without even thinking about it for a second. What if we won't get it? Not like yeah, we'll definetly have eeeeeeeverything. Get real.
I get it. NCsoft fanboy that thinks it's ok business practice to purposefully mislead customers as long as there's a disclaimer. I think we're done talking :rolleyes:
I get it. NCsoft fanboy that thinks it's ok business practice to purposefully mislead customers as long as there's a disclaimer. I think we're done talking :rolleyes:

Far from it, cry harder. :D
"Preliminary patchnotes" what is so hard to understand?
PRELIMINARY.
P.R.E.L.I.M.I.N.A.R.Y.
If you can't see the intent of making money of this event by purposely misleading their customers, then you are really naive.
/summon Golemka's Illuminati pic.
I get it. NCsoft fanboy that thinks it's ok business practice to purposefully mislead customers as long as there's a disclaimer. I think we're done talking :rolleyes:

Not really a fanboy, if you think I am, well whatever rocks your boat. I just like pointing out the stupidities, that people usually go for.

Here, if you didn't read it yet:

What i saw was long time crying players about patch notes. And the staff gave them what have now and warned them that it may change later. Maybe the staff wouldnt post this preliminary patch notes if the players didn't ask so much for it. So they post it, and write "Don't believe in everything you read in this preliminary patch notes", but you choose to believe.

Maybe they did it on purpose, maybe they didn't. I saw such option to make money from preliminary patch notes, but maybe they didn't think about it. They focking warned you about changes ! So who is the naive ?

I personally read it and said "Okay i will wait for the final patch notes" i also read much information in other forums, so i didn't take any action. Because i know we not always get what Korea have and i don't really like to gamble, but very rare i do and accept the consequences after, because was my choice.

Couldn't have hit the nail harder on the head, than he did. :D
me and my friends invested all adena on jewels following patch notes information

/pwnedtoohard
Oh well, was looking forward to upgrade my orfen soul earring. Im glad i decided not to spend adenas on jewels before update but wait and see if the prices will drop after.

Regarding update info: propably they sent out update with all the info pasted what NCKorea got, Juji tested it out and find the information not matching and updated the info yesterday. Now why he did it so late? Maybe because he doesnt follow the game as close as some players do and didnt find the information so important to be posted asap, as some people here think (most likely the same who stack jewels when the first patch notes came out). AH was empty of certain jewels the very next day. Buy cheap sell for higher prices later. Smart move. Maybe he follows the game more closer than we think and posted info as late as possible, so no big ingame changes happen?

Anyway, it was a gamble. I gambled with shadow weapons waiting for red libra 2 to come, we got red libra 1. My plan to make easy adenas failed.
What i saw was long time crying players about patch notes. And the staff gave them what have now and warned them that it may change later. Maybe the staff wouldnt post this preliminary patch notes if the players didn't ask so much for it. So they post it, and write "Don't believe in everything you read in this preliminary patch notes", but you choose to believe.

Maybe they did it on purpose, maybe they didn't. I saw such option to make money from preliminary patch notes, but maybe they didn't think about it. They focking warned you about changes ! So who is the naive ?

I personally read it and said "Okay i will wait for the final patch notes" i also read much information in other forums, so i didn't take any action. Because i know we not always get what Korea have and i don't really like to gamble, but very rare i do and accept the consequences after, because was my choice. Juji spoke of fixing typos/mis-translations and/or adding content for the final patch notes, not removing content thats what is wrong here.. :rolleyes:
Juji spoke of fixing typos/mis-translations and/or adding content for the final patch notes, not removing content thats what is wrong here.. :rolleyes:

The following list of preliminary patch notes and functions are not final. Game content and localization of terms may change before this update launches.


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Oh well, was looking forward to upgrade my orfen soul earring. Im glad i decided not to spend adenas on jewels before update but wait and see if the prices will drop after.

Regarding update info: propably they sent out update with all the info pasted what NCKorea got, Juji tested it out and find the information not matching and updated the info yesterday. Now why he did it so late? Maybe because he doesnt follow the game as close as some players do and didnt find the information so important to be posted asap, as some people here think (most likely the same who stack jewels when the first patch notes came out). AH was empty of certain jewels the very next day. Buy cheap sell for higher prices later. Smart move. Maybe he follows the game more closer than we think and posted info as late as possible, so no big ingame changes happen?

Anyway, it was a gamble. I gambled with shadow weapons waiting for red libra 2 to come, we got red libra 1. My plan to make easy adenas failed.

Exactly, its a gamble and people gambled before they got all info.
Not much to say, move on and sell your jewelry again.

All preliminary patchnotes are basically just copy & paste & translation from latest korean patchnotes.
i.e there are alot of "Skill XXX is bugged and causes this issue, it was fixed" < only one problem, that skill was never released for us, so obviously it was part of a previous korean patch.
You can see alot of things similar to this if you just read the preliminary patchnotes.
Kid they are not like drug dealers you are only stupid it all. BTW cry more kid i hope one day you will stop i keep fingers.

"cry and kid" , cant imagine how intelligent is that guy nikopol :rolleyes:
Some people where rly happy when they read the pach note's first and marvel at there own awesome master plan to make crazy amount of adena while the rest of us w8 for the final pach note's before spending:)
Remove "buff deletion settings" when entering the instance dungeon.... Baylor
I hope u miss this on the PN...
Might be referring to this patch note. I will double check with QA to confirm that it is the correct skill since Air Light is a buff and not an attack skill.


Fixed an issue where Air Light skill’s Atk. Damage is excessively high.


This is the bug?
Eviscerator attack 1 time and 5 time damage mob in that attack.
I hope that preliminary patch notes false information was done on purpose of increase selling of abundance boxes.

OMG, first time I can agree with boketka, that low epics were the main drop from that 500NC boxes and we bought them cuz we was sure we gonna have the new epics.
Unbelievable. You couldn't have let us known this before this event?
What's the point of preliminary patch notes if you're going to put false information in it? Missing information I would understand, but false?

There are tons of people have been misled and bought ncoin, used all their adena, even selling some of their equipment, to be able to get jewels during this event. We're talking many many billions here and I know several players that will be quitting if this stands.

wait, r u talking seriously?

http://i.imgur.com/7Uj8bp3.jpg
Juji, to avoid further dramaz on the Final Patch Notes can you confirm/deny that NCWest will get the update that allows the usage of 30 Days epics in Oly ?

Korea / Japan / EU / RU aka all territories that have those shadow epics got this as part of their Helios update.

Please clarify as there are plenty of people upset right now with the manipulation of the lower tier epic jewels market that the destruction of the high end epic market isn't going to go down very well ;)

ah and while we're on the subject of completeness of patch notes: Japan received an additional minor update 1 Month after their Helios release in which improved eternal armor sets were introduced, will we get that update at a later stage as well or is that a pure Japan Exclusive ?

Japan Helios patch notes: http://www.ncsoft.jp/lineage2/gameIntro/updateInfo/detail27
- check the part about items to see the details on the 30 days epics / improved eternal armors
Juji, to avoid further dramaz on the Final Patch Notes can you confirm/deny that NCWest will get the update that allows the usage of 30 Days epics in Oly ?

Korea / Japan / EU / RU aka all territories that have those shadow epics got this as part of their Helios update.

Please clarify as there are plenty of people upset right now with the manipulation of the lower tier epic jewels market that the destruction of the high end epic market isn't going to go down very well ;)

ah and while we're on the subject of completeness of patch notes: Japan received an additional minor update 1 Month after their Helios release in which improved eternal armor sets were introduced, will we get that update at a later stage as well or is that a pure Japan Exclusive ?


lol, I hope this isn't true.
agree with all above and very disappointed.

the preliminary patch notes can change but it is absolutely unprofessional to do it on the day of go-live. And hard to believe that NCWEST got this info overnight. so, it is either unprofessionalism of particular GM working on it who should be out.... or it is a management direction of the NCWest which is more realistic option,

which means a deliberate cheating on game community.

PS: I was personally buying Freya necklaces to upgrade my own jewelry (not to resell), and I am not that rich to invest a lot of adena and wait for next update for another half a year or a year.
:rolleyes:im not woried about epic jewlery i have all i need ,but i cant wait update to see my treu feoh power back that was taken from us long time ago. good job ncwest :))) :)
I guess I was stupid to believe Juji when he said:

Just a reminder that these are the preliminary patch notes, so some terms and phrases may be mistranslated or incorrect. There will also be additional content added when the final patch notes are posted.

The preliminary were mostly polished except for some mistranslations and unlocalized terms.
I listened to Juji and bought 20 abundance boxes from L2store so I could upgrade my epic jewels....oh well :confused:
...

ah and while we're on the subject of completeness of patch notes: Japan received an additional minor update 1 Month after their Helios release in which improved eternal armor sets were introduced, will we get that update at a later stage as well or is that a pure Japan Exclusive ?

Japan Helios patch notes: http://www.ncsoft.jp/lineage2/gameIntro/updateInfo/detail27
- check the part about items to see the details on the 30 days epics / improved eternal armors

Do you speak about this :
https://s32.postimg.org/j4rhx2pwl/Shot00176.png
Sorry i don't read japanese ahah^^"
Where can I find a list of all the commands used to write macros in the game?
I love to see it when alot of Players in this Community are spamming the following line:

The following list of preliminary patch notes and functions are not final. Game content and localization of terms may change before this update launches.

As far I am concerned, this Line has been interpreted totally wrong. Game Content change or leave-out Game Content are two totally different meanings ...

Also the Preliminary Patch Notes should image the representation of what our L2 version in NCwest should be getting and not what Helios had to offer in General for all Continents. If some parts of the Patch Notes are Korean version only, what right NCwest had to put it in our own NCwest version of Preliminary Patch Notes in the first place? This part mislead alot of Players in our Community.

In the end it shows us how lazy they really are in NCwest. Copy Paste, without filtering/stripping out the other Continents only Content. It wasn't the first time and it won't be the last time they make this mistake.

Lovely to see something yet so tiny can cause so many problems.

I stick to my conclusion if its really Korean only then it had no right to even be in our version of the Lineage II Preliminary Patch Notes in the first place.

Cheers,
Bennie
when I see ingame description I see and the mats required for it ahah
at least it look good :)
I love to see it when alot of Players in this Community are spamming the following line:

The following list of preliminary patch notes and functions are not final. Game content and localization of terms may change before this update launches.

As far I am concerned, this Line has been interpreted totally wrong. Game Content change or leave-out Game Content are two totally different meanings ...

Also the Preliminary Patch Notes should image the representation of what our L2 version in NCwest should be getting and not what Helios had to offer in General for all Continents. If some parts of the Patch Notes are Korean version only, what right NCwest had to put it in our own NCwest version of Preliminary Patch Notes in the first place? This part mislead alot of Players in our Community.

In the end it shows us how lazy they really are in NCwest. Copy Paste, without filtering/stripping out the other Continents only Content. It wasn't the first time and it won't be the last time they make this mistake.

Lovely to see something yet so tiny can cause so many problems.

I stick to my conclusion if its really Korean only then it had no right to even be in our version of the Lineage II Preliminary Patch Notes in the first place.

The problem is, Juji, giving in to the constant nagging of players, posted the Preliminary Patch Notes two months before he got the actual game files. It was really just a translation of the piled up Korean patch notes that came between the cut-off points, those dates being the only thing he knew at the time.

What was a mistake, in my opinion, was to post the Preliminary Patch Notes in English language. This gave them, in spite of the disclaimer, in the eyes of many players a legitimacy that they did not really possess. If I were Juji I would in the future just post a link to the Korean patch notes and let players use Google Translator on them at their own peril. Here for example Grand Crusade, the next major update:
http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/%EB%8C%80%EC%84%B1%EC%A0%84
And here all the minor Wednesday patches:
http://lineage2.plaync.com/board/update/list

:)
All i see is QQ. How can you justify spending Ncoin on boxes and spending billions on items when you know from the past that other versions of L2 vary from our own. Enigma clans big ballers on Zaken seem to be upset they tried yet again have a monopoly on some part of the market. Seems born's best friend Juji didnt give him a heads up this time. (or maybe born doesnt really know him). Dun Dun Dun!
The following list of preliminary patch notes and functions are not final. Game content and localization of terms may change before this update launches.


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Just a reminder that these are the preliminary patch notes, so some terms and phrases may be mistranslated or incorrect. There will also be additional content added(as in not removed) when the final patch notes are posted.

would you like a nice cup of STF.U with your muffin sir?
The problem is, Juji, giving in to the constant nagging of players, posted the Preliminary Patch Notes two months before he got the actual game files. It was really just a translation of the piled up Korean patch notes that came between the cut-off points, those dates being the only thing he knew at the time.

What was a mistake, in my opinion, was to post the Preliminary Patch Notes in English language. This gave them, in spite of the disclaimer, in the eyes of many players a legitimacy that they did not really possess. If I were Juji I would in the future just post a link to the Korean patch notes and let players use Google Translator on them at their own peril. Here for example Grand Crusade, the next major update:
http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/%EB%8C%80%EC%84%B1%EC%A0%84
And here all the minor Wednesday patches:
http://lineage2.plaync.com/board/update/list

:)

that would fix alot of the moaning at juji about "but the other notes said this or that" but then people will just find something else to moan at
. It wasn't the first time and it won't be the last time they make this mistake.

Actually it will be the last time, game will be shut down in the next year. This will be the last update for NA.
:confused:hey all relax on juji,he the best gm and looks like the only one really working his but off in ncwest.so instead of slandering him give the man respect.he does what he can .we will never have the same as korea and u all know that so why keep *****ing about it,it makes no sense .;)
that would fix alot of the moaning at juji about "but the other notes said this or that" but then people will just find something else to moan at


show the only real working gm respect please,without him there would be no ncwest!!
Hello!

It is possible to give us drop and spoil calculator?

(not l2wiki and other websites)

One for this server, with our % what we have.

Please Juji make one for us, or share if it already exist!
Hello!

It is possible to give us drop and spoil calculator?

(not l2wiki and other websites)

One for this server, with our % what we have.

Please Juji make one for us, or share if it already exist!

Believe me you don't want to see this cause you will shoot yourself playing as a spoiler :p Chances are prolly same as it is written on L2wiki or lower. Those 0.000x% chances are really funny - it shows how poor drops and spoil are in this game sadly. Spoilers don't have a spot where they can earn something good cause making 2, 3 kartias group solo on 2, 3 different characters provides better drop and adena than hours on spot trying to get something worth this time...
Maybe there are good spoils at high level spot as GoS and Atelia but no one wants spoiler there + no one let you make profit for yourself only :p
There is nothing about the Heine Fishing coupons that can be traded to Heine Baits in Patch notes. Both Fishing NPC's trade coupons to Heine baits as do Peeves in Heine (next to GK).

I found this though:

Blue-colored Box (Bait)
50x Fishing Shot
(Chance for Sturdy Fishing Rod)


Red-colored Box (Bait – R99)
Chance for one of the following:
50x Fishing Shot
1x Maphr’s Luck Potion
1x Rainbow Springs Clan Hall War
Decree
1x Sturdy Fishing Rod


@Juji -> Are the "50 fishing shots" mentioned here actually Heine Fishing shot coupons - and just been badly translated into patch notes?
faction tutorials pls

apolagies for my *******ness:D
It appears a lot of people tried to manipulate economy for their personal gain.. It appears that this happens all the time that's why economy is so unstable and hard for the "not rich"..

These ppl now are whining and insult again.. They think that what they do is fair for the rest of the people that cannot even buy a low epic ring..

Well that's a free economy guys.. You are free to invest and take risks.. Manipulation and cartels happen but they are illegal...
You've been busted...
The more you cry the more you entertain the ones that didn't fall for that..

A big bravo to Juji from me..:)

Peace out..
faction tutorials pls

Here is the main article about the Faction System:
http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/%EC%84%B8%EB%A0%A5
And from here on there is an English discussion:
http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1547&start=40#p32140

The Faction System is basically like the old Varka/Ketra alliance quests - you kill monsters in the area that belongs to your Faction, the more monsters you kill, the higher your "rank" in that Faction, and the more you can get from it (Talismans, a Faction-specific mount etc.)

The main difference to the old Varka/Ketra system is that the Factions are not mutually exclusive. You can be a member of several factions at the same time, the only limit being the minimum level for entry :)
Here is the main article about the Faction System:
http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/%EC%84%B8%EB%A0%A5
And from here on there is an English discussion:
http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1547&start=40#p32140

The Faction System is basically like the old Varka/Ketra alliance quests - you kill monsters in the area that belongs to your Faction, the more monsters you kill, the higher your "rank" in that Faction, and the more you can get from it (Talismans, a Faction-specific mount etc.)

The main difference to the old Varka/Ketra system is that the Factions are not mutually exclusive. You can be a member of several factions at the same time, the only limit being the minimum level for entry :)

I read about the new quests to level to 85 bit I didn't see where to start them or what The names are. Can you use the quest lone to level sub classes or is it okay lyrics for new toons?
Here is the main article about the Faction System:
http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/%EC%84%B8%EB%A0%A5
And from here on there is an English discussion:
http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=1547&start=40#p32140

The Faction System is basically like the old Varka/Ketra alliance quests - you kill monsters in the area that belongs to your Faction, the more monsters you kill, the higher your "rank" in that Faction, and the more you can get from it (Talismans, a Faction-specific mount etc.)

The main difference to the old Varka/Ketra system is that the Factions are not mutually exclusive. You can be a member of several factions at the same time, the only limit being the minimum level for entry :)

so you your doing a quest in the area its auto for that faction?
I read about the new quests to level to 85 bit I didn't see where to start them or what The names are. Can you use the quest lone to level sub classes or is it okay lyrics for new toons?

Looking for this info?

 Added new daily quests and improved existing quests for Level 85 or higher hunting grounds.

Type Quest Level Description
Improved
Duty of the Survivor 85
The quest zone has expanded from Bloody
Swampland to Altar of Evil, and the quest steps and
rewards have improved.

New
To Calm the Flood 88
A quest that can be obtained from a Fairy Citizen NPC
and carried out in Fairy Settlement
(Southern/Northern forest).

New
Dreaming of Peace 90 A quest that can be obtained from Nerupa and carried
out in Fairy Settlement (Kimerian’s Forest).

Improved
Uncover the Secret 93
A quest carried out on the Isle of Souls. Its quest zone
has expanded, and the quest steps and rewards have
improved.
Improved Kicking Out

Unwelcome Guests 95
A quest carried out in the Seal of Shilen. The quest
steps and rewards have improved.


This info was on page 4 of Final Patch notes.



EDIT: Oh I see you were looking for info on quests prior to 85... those are in Quests section in Final patch notes.
Quest XP rewards have increased, while XP gained from hunting has decreased.

thanks, now leveling up a bot is easier and faster but level up a pet is slower ... :rolleyes:

XP for Raids has decreased??? This will make low lvl Kamalokas useless

Changed the way equipment that is needed for leveling is issued. Proofs and Steel Door Coins are no longer given.
o Affected items are “Proof of Courage”, “Proof of Justice”, and “Steel Door Coins”.
o Proofs and Steel Door Coins in the inventory can still be used the same way as before the update.
 Items used to be given as rewards for Level 1 - 85 quests are now rewarded for Level 85+ quests.
 Players can now additionally obtain “Paulina’s Equipment Set” once they complete the Awakening or 3rd Liberation.
o “Paulina’s Equipment Set” is made up of weapons, armor, and accessories, and the set expires after 30 days of use.

i hope you include 1h blunts or 1h swords for Knights this time

Added A-grade weapons/armor to the Luxury Shop’s weapon/armor sale list.

thumbs up
Looking for this info?

 Added new daily quests and improved existing quests for Level 85 or higher hunting grounds.

Type Quest Level Description
Improved
Duty of the Survivor 85
The quest zone has expanded from Bloody
Swampland to Altar of Evil, and the quest steps and
rewards have improved.

New
To Calm the Flood 88
A quest that can be obtained from a Fairy Citizen NPC
and carried out in Fairy Settlement
(Southern/Northern forest).

New
Dreaming of Peace 90 A quest that can be obtained from Nerupa and carried
out in Fairy Settlement (Kimerian’s Forest).

Improved
Uncover the Secret 93
A quest carried out on the Isle of Souls. Its quest zone
has expanded, and the quest steps and rewards have
improved.
Improved Kicking Out

Unwelcome Guests 95
A quest carried out in the Seal of Shilen. The quest
steps and rewards have improved.


This info was on page 4 of Final Patch notes.



EDIT: Oh I see you were looking for info on quests prior to 85... those are in Quests section in Final patch notes.

No, I assume there was some kind of 1-85 quest line, similar to the path of awakening. Not just a list of random quests below lvl 85.
Hello

I just read the Final Patch Notes and could not avoid noticing that there were some slight changes.
After comparing both texts I realize something strange.
According to this point you have:
" Increased the efficiency of Pre-Awakening Quests (Level 1-85)
o Players can reach Level 85 by completing tutorials and linked quests.
o Quest XP rewards have increased, while XP gained from hunting has decreased."
But you did not mention anything about subclasses and dualclasses. In the Preleminary Patch Notes there was a point with a solution:
" Added specific leveling support quests for sub (dual) classes.
o When a player adds a subclass, the player can undertake specific quests starting from a tutorial quest to grow like the main class."

So my problem now is, since the XP from hunting is reduced and there are no quests to help with the level up, how are you supposed to level up your subs and duals?

Thank you for your time
Hello All,

I hear your feedback loud and clear about the epic boss jewel crafting system that was left out. I apologize that this change was not communicated earlier because I had posted the preliminary patch notes very early before we received our final release build. I will discuss with the dev team tonight about implementing the crafting system and see if it will be included in a future maintenance update that will be clearly communicated before it releases.

Please feel free to share any other feedback or bug reports for issues found in the Helios update. QA and I will be scanning the forums frequently for these issues, so we can compile and send them off to Korea immediately for fixes. You can also submit tickets to support if you find any exploits or major bugs that you feel are not suitable for the public forum.

Thank You!
so you your doing a quest in the area its auto for that faction?

Let's take for example the Blackbird Clan:
http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/%EC%84%B8%EB%A0%A5#hd105038

This Faction is operating on Hellbound. There is an old daily quest, "Retrieving the Chaos Fragments (http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/%ED%98%BC%EB%8F%88%EC%9D%98+%EC%A1%B0%EA%B0%81+%ED %9A%8C%EC%88%98)" that you could pick up from Leona Blackbird. Now this is the starter quest for the Blackbird Clan Faction, what you can do at Faction Level 0 and which gives you, in addition to exp, SP, and a reward box so-called Friendship Points or whatever it is called in English. This automatically levels up your standing within the Blackbird Clan, but not with the Mother Tree Guardians.

So yes, since each Faction has its own area and none of those hunting grounds are double-used by two or more Factions, doing any quests in that area automatically increases your Friendship level with that Faction :)
Hello

I just read the Final Patch Notes and could not avoid noticing that there were some slight changes.
After comparing both texts I realize something strange.
According to this point you have:
" Increased the efficiency of Pre-Awakening Quests (Level 1-85)
o Players can reach Level 85 by completing tutorials and linked quests.
o Quest XP rewards have increased, while XP gained from hunting has decreased."
But you did not mention anything about subclasses and dualclasses. In the Preleminary Patch Notes there was a point with a solution:
" Added specific leveling support quests for sub (dual) classes.
o When a player adds a subclass, the player can undertake specific quests starting from a tutorial quest to grow like the main class."

So my problem now is, since the XP from hunting is reduced and there are no quests to help with the level up, how are you supposed to level up your subs and duals?

Thank you for your time



Yes, the preliminary patch notes has information that in the final patch notes not have. I think the final patch notes is incomplete.
No, I assume there was some kind of 1-85 quest line, similar to the path of awakening. Not just a list of random quests below lvl 85.

Here are the Korean patch notes, which are basically the same as the English ones:
http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/%EC%9D%B8%ED%94%BC%EB%8B%88%ED%8A%B8+%EC%98%A4%EB% 94%94%EC%84%B8%EC%9D%B4%3A+%EA%B3%A0%EB%8C%80%EC%9 D%B8%EC%9D%98+%EC%9D%98%EC%A7%80+%ED%80%98%EC%8A%A 4%ED%8A%B8

As you can see, most of the Kekropus letter quest line still exists. If you want to know inhowfar they have been changed, you can for example mark 케크로프스의 편지, 단서의 완성 and copy/paste it into the search field at the top of this page:
http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/

Click the button to the right, and you will get these results:
http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/exe/ln2/doc_create.php?kw=%EC%BC%80%ED%81%AC%EB%A1%9C%ED%9 4%84%EC%8A%A4%EC%9D%98+%ED%8E%B8%EC%A7%80%2C+%EB%8 B%A8%EC%84%9C%EC%9D%98+%EC%99%84%EC%84%B1

The topmost link is the quest guide:
http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/%EC%BC%80%ED%81%AC%EB%A1%9C%ED%94%84%EC%8A%A4%EC%9 D%98+%ED%8E%B8%EC%A7%80%2C+%EB%8B%A8%EC%84%9C%EC%9 D%98+%EC%99%84%EC%84%B1
The Teleport Scroll still takes you to Blacksmith Flutter in Oren, who sends you on to Outlaw Forest, you get exp and SP, but no more Steel Door Coins :)
What happened with Special Bait?

I purchased some special bait, a 30 day rod and fishing shots.

When I try to fish with the special bait it says "this item does not meet the requirement". However, I purchased the R99 bait from the fishing guy, and those worked fine.

Are Special Baits obsolete? How can I obtain the Heine Special Bait Coupon?
Thanks for the update Juji, any news you can share on my other points ?

Hello All,

I hear your feedback loud and clear about the epic boss jewel crafting system that was left out. I apologize that this change was not communicated earlier because I had posted the preliminary patch notes very early before we received our final release build. I will discuss with the dev team tonight about implementing the crafting system and see if it will be included in a future maintenance update that will be clearly communicated before it releases.

Please feel free to share any other feedback or bug reports for issues found in the Helios update. QA and I will be scanning the forums frequently for these issues, so we can compile and send them off to Korea immediately for fixes. You can also submit tickets to support if you find any exploits or major bugs that you feel are not suitable for the public forum.

Thank You!


Juji, to avoid further dramaz on the Final Patch Notes can you confirm/deny that NCWest will get the update that allows the usage of 30 Days epics in Oly ?

Korea / Japan / EU / RU aka all territories that have those shadow epics got this as part of their Helios update.

Please clarify as there are plenty of people upset right now with the manipulation of the lower tier epic jewels market that the destruction of the high end epic market isn't going to go down very well ;)

ah and while we're on the subject of completeness of patch notes: Japan received an additional minor update 1 Month after their Helios release in which improved eternal armor sets were introduced, will we get that update at a later stage as well or is that a pure Japan Exclusive ?

Japan Helios patch notes: http://www.ncsoft.jp/lineage2/gameIntro/updateInfo/detail27
- check the part about items to see the details on the 30 days epics / improved eternal armors
Let's take for example the Blackbird Clan:
http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/%EC%84%B8%EB%A0%A5#hd105038

This Faction is operating on Hellbound. There is an old daily quest, "Retrieving the Chaos Fragments (http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/%ED%98%BC%EB%8F%88%EC%9D%98+%EC%A1%B0%EA%B0%81+%ED %9A%8C%EC%88%98)" that you could pick up from Leona Blackbird. Now this is the starter quest for the Blackbird Clan Faction, what you can do at Faction Level 0 and which gives you, in addition to exp, SP, and a reward box so-called Friendship Points or whatever it is called in English. This automatically levels up your standing within the Blackbird Clan, but not with the Mother Tree Guardians.

So yes, since each Faction has its own area and none of those hunting grounds are double-used by two or more Factions, doing any quests in that area automatically increases your Friendship level with that Faction :)

you answered my question perfectly thanks <3
Well what happened with istina,octavis, balok we still need a command channel to enter there?
The upgrades for the epic jewels were only for Korea and are not in our version.

No skills are reset.


Juji I want to use this thread and suggest that you make some event or something about enchanting skills up to 10 with immortal/blessed scrolls.
Will explain why.Now a lot of people start the game and it is imposible to enchant skill to 10 with normal enchant and price of blessed one on freya is 90mil.This is something needed erally.
Hello All,

I hear your feedback loud and clear about the epic boss jewel crafting system that was left out. I apologize that this change was not communicated earlier because I had posted the preliminary patch notes very early before we received our final release build. I will discuss with the dev team tonight about implementing the crafting system and see if it will be included in a future maintenance update that will be clearly communicated before it releases.



Thanks for the consideration - much appreciated.
Hello All,

I hear your feedback loud and clear about the epic boss jewel crafting system that was left out. I apologize that this change was not communicated earlier because I had posted the preliminary patch notes very early before we received our final release build. I will discuss with the dev team tonight about implementing the crafting system and see if it will be included in a future maintenance update that will be clearly communicated before it releases.

Please feel free to share any other feedback or bug reports for issues found in the Helios update. QA and I will be scanning the forums frequently for these issues, so we can compile and send them off to Korea immediately for fixes. You can also submit tickets to support if you find any exploits or major bugs that you feel are not suitable for the public forum.

Thank You!


Just dont. The gap between the paying and the nonpaying users is too big already.

Btw, where is my promised drop increase?
there was an interesting edit in the Party System article of the Powerbook Wikipedia:
http://m.lineage2.plaync.com/powerbook/powerbookContent?keyword=파티+시스템

About 1/4 down the page, where they talk about the exp penalty brought about by level difference between party members, it now says that there is no penalty for a level differenece up to 9, 50% exp penalty for a level difference of 10~14, and only when the lowest character in the party is 15 levels below the highest one, he won't get any exp.
New patch is not free gear
New patch is not about bigger drop rate
New patch is about more hard core gaming (witch is the reason 99% of the players do )
So all those who come here to post about why don't change this why that need to understand that the game the way it is now is balanced !!!
this is not Korean server and it is not eu server --- SO stop comparing
really i dont understand how raid lvl 88 make 45k dmg with critical slasher and minions 15k dmg with normal skills. when my char are lvl 90 with set tw light +6 full element - abundance lv 1 - tauti weapon - epic jewels 30 days .......
really i dont understand how raid lvl 88 make 45k dmg with critical slasher and minions 15k dmg with normal skills. when my char are lvl 90 with set tw light +6 full element - abundance lv 1 - tauti weapon - epic jewels 30 days .......

Boss is meant to be tanked from an actual tank class !!!!
Yul for example is not the option to go and tank a boss
Othell for example is not
You understand ? That's why there are robe - light - and heavy armors !!!
That's why they are healer and tank classes
Now this is called mechanics if you want to skip mechanics then you are definitely at the rong game !!!!!!
Boss is meant to be tanked from an actual tank class !!!!
Yul for example is not the option to go and tank a boss
Othell for example is not
You understand ? That's why there are robe - light - and heavy armors !!!
That's why they are healer and tank classes
Now this is called mechanics if you want to skip mechanics then you are definitely at the rong game !!!!!!

ya. i understand but before helios update i never see skill CRITICAL SLASHER from boss. and my char are full element and good items for can kill without problem this raids but now with this update i think any raid are more strong skill "CRITICAL SLASHER" are spawnmed fast cant control with celestial or run.
ya. i understand but before helios update i never see skill CRITICAL SLASHER from boss. and my char are full element and good items for can kill without problem this raids but now with this update i think any raid are more strong skill "CRITICAL SLASHER" are spawnmed fast cant control with celestial or run.

If you see the video(of Helios ) witch is one of the greatest ever happened to be made . You will understand the big fight !! Witch means you did not go prepared for that new skill . This skill is there to show to ppl like you that mechanics should now be skipped ! Nc west never apologize or say that ( yes we made a mistake ) . There preveous mistake was that raids were 2 easy and bots were farming them . Now they made them harder so bots can't farm them . Now to mention you can go with a +10 armor now and make your life easier !!!
If you see the video(of Helios ) witch is one of the greatest ever happened to be made . You will understand the big fight !! Witch means you did not go prepared for that new skill . This skill is there to show to ppl like you that mechanics should now be skipped ! Nc west never apologize or say that ( yes we made a mistake ) . There preveous mistake was that raids were 2 easy and bots were farming them . Now they made them harder so bots can't farm them . Now to mention you can go with a +10 armor now and make your life easier !!!

yes maybe. but i was talk abouth raid lvl 88 - 92 tell me how can get set +10 on that lvl for can kill boss really need much ncoins for spend on rose buff all time for kill someone boss. but thanks for answer and yes i think make set +50 and jewels +60 for can go any boss
Hello.
Anyone got more info about the new quest "Duty of the Survivor" lvl 85?
How much exp and adena it give now if you deliver 100 200 300 and 400 itens?
Thanks.
Hello!

It is possible to give us drop and spoil calculator?

(not l2wiki and other websites)

One for this server, with our % what we have.

Please Juji make one for us, or share if it already exist!


UP
Hello All,
I hear your feedback loud and clear about the epic boss jewel crafting system that was left out. I apologize that this change was not communicated earlier because I had posted the preliminary patch notes very early before we received our final release build. I will discuss with the dev team tonight about implementing the crafting system and see if it will be included in a future maintenance update that will be clearly communicated before it releases.

I'm delighted to hear :)

Hoping to hear more info about that in the july-preview already.
Please feel free to share any other feedback or bug reports for issues found in the Helios update. QA and I will be scanning the forums frequently for these issues, so we can compile and send them off to Korea immediately for fixes. You can also submit tickets to support if you find any exploits or major bugs that you feel are not suitable for the public forum.

Thank You!

This is in the patchnotes about +8 Robe Sets:
Enhancement Effect
R-grade robe set +8 enhanced
Dagger/Dual Dagger/Bows/Crossbows resistance 10% increase effect is added, Magic cancelation probability decrease effect deleted

The IG description is still the old one, not sure if false description or the change isnt applied at all.
Hello All,

I hear your feedback loud and clear about the epic boss jewel crafting system that was left out. I apologize that this change was not communicated earlier because I had posted the preliminary patch notes very early before we received our final release build. I will discuss with the dev team tonight about implementing the crafting system and see if it will be included in a future maintenance update that will be clearly communicated before it releases.

Please feel free to share any other feedback or bug reports for issues found in the Helios update. QA and I will be scanning the forums frequently for these issues, so we can compile and send them off to Korea immediately for fixes. You can also submit tickets to support if you find any exploits or major bugs that you feel are not suitable for the public forum.

Thank You!


Thanks you.
Dunno if it was here, but

quest 'let's go fishing" can not be completed, it shows 5/5 items, but still NPC refuses to accept, this happens if you open that fish you caught.

what need to be done: it must accept quest as done, or items must be as 0/5 when you delete fish
in current state quest is awkward

http://i.imgur.com/jM0wrma.jpg
I've read in the patch notes that quests are added to level a toon to 85.
The last levels until 80 can be filled with Varka and Ketra quests.

But after 80, all the quests are not available for Ertheia?

Since the XP was reduced because of the quests, how can the Ertheia level up fast to lvl 85? (besides powerlevel or raidboss)
About Faction System:

I - I wonder what the maximum level that each guild can be achieved?

II - According to the Blackbird guild, says that at some point the quest will have to defeat Beleth, but on arriving at the npc says that their quest has been completed, so, once done the quest to defeat Beleth, I will have to repeat it again?

In the same way, I could start the initial quest of the Mother Tree guild, although already had in progress, with few quest items, the daily quest in Enchanted Valley, and so, from the amount of quest items already obtained from EV daily quest, i could began to count so I could make the 300 quest items needed to end the 1st quest from MT guild.



On the other hand, the Beauty Shop has been updated with two new hair styles and a new face style. Since this was not in the Patch Notes, I wonder if this is somehow an NCWest implement?

Thanks in advance.
you can view the faction system and your progress with it in the system menu options list and if I remember correctly there are currently 6 stages for each..

in the next update Grand Crusade more functions & info will be added to this system including mob information and increased bonus for certain mobs you have killed many times etc.
Give random rispown for all rb like low lvl rb comon agein some ppl kill 16 , 32 rb alone in row , big rb no have rispown time , or this gm make for rich ppl rb , if rb got randim rispown time all ppl can camp and rich ppl need camp too , evrbody got chans to kill rb
Give random rispown for all rb like low lvl rb comon agein some ppl kill 16 , 32 rb alone in row , big rb no have rispown time , or this gm make for rich ppl rb , if rb got randim rispown time all ppl can camp and rich ppl need camp too , evrbody got chans to kill rb

+1 add random respawn and add the Grand Crusade function which shows which raids are up on the world map so nobody has to camp/create spy toons anymore.
just pliz random time for all rb , make like low lvl rb , now ppl log 2h in game kill all rb and go off after sell adena in rl much cheper from NCsoft , so who will donate to NCsoft
we need random RB time respawn if want fun for all
Here's a major bug:

The disconnection problem due to gameguard is worse than ever. I've uninstalled and reinstalled 3 times now to no avail.

Any fix for that problem? Only having 30 seconds to play for each login is not how I want to enjoy this game.
Here's a major bug:

The disconnection problem due to gameguard is worse than ever. I've uninstalled and reinstalled 3 times now to no avail.

Any fix for that problem? Only having 30 seconds to play for each login is not how I want to enjoy this game.

Please send a ticket to technical support (https://support.lineage2.com/hc/en-us), as we cannot investigate individual connection issues on the forums.
Vale la pena volver a jugar ? cual servidor es el mas activo ?
Dunno if it was here, but

quest 'let's go fishing" can not be completed, it shows 5/5 items, but still NPC refuses to accept, this happens if you open that fish you caught.

what need to be done: it must accept quest as done, or items must be as 0/5 when you delete fish
in current state quest is awkward

http://i.imgur.com/jM0wrma.jpg


Thanks for the report. As a work around try aborting the quest and redoing it normally. However, I could not replicate the issue even when deleting fish. Once the quest reached 5 caught fishes the quest status changed state to the next step and the amount of fish in my possession was then irrelevant. It's also possible you might still have the previous version of the quest still since there were some missing clean-up scripts for quest/items/skills that did not occur properly during the update. But aborting and restarting the quest should fix that on an individual case.
This is in the patchnotes about +8 Robe Sets:
Enhancement Effect
R-grade robe set +8 enhanced
Dagger/Dual Dagger/Bows/Crossbows resistance 10% increase effect is added, Magic cancelation probability decrease effect deleted

The IG description is still the old one, not sure if false description or the change isnt applied at all.

Currently the +9 and +10 enchant item skill is applied but the item tool tip information is not yet updated.

http://i.imgur.com/PorLxCb.png
Pls disregard

I have no issue thx
BUG:
- Can't link augmented weapons on any chat.

Any word on fishing agathions? Is it another deleted content on our servers?
Hello together,
Hello NCSoft,

Please for your statement regarding the following subjects:

Juji (http://boards.lineage2.com/member.php?u=159857) 06-29-2016, 05:56 AM wrote: - “The upgrades for the epic jewels were only for Korea and are not in our version.”.
- Dear NCSoft, Dear producer Mr. Jujy , when you wrote (only for Korea) did you check http://lineage2.plaync.com/global, and did you made any kind of research how exactly L2 updates are being developed / implemented in all other location regarding the subject?

http://lineage2.plaync.com/global - (please see the image at the bottom and see the links)

Juji (http://boards.lineage2.com/member.php?u=159857) 06-29-2016, 09:42 PM wrote: - “…… I will discuss with the dev team tonight about implementing the crafting system and see if it will be included in a future maintenance update that will be clearly communicated before it releases.”.
- Dear NCSoft, Dear producer Mr. Jujy, more than 42-3 hours and still not even a word about epic jewels upgrade, nothing about the new craft system at all.

How was the meeting with the Lineage Development team, if I may politely ask, and did you all, manage to find a way to generalize the situation and to decide how to proceed according your business and future developments plans? When we can expect any info about the topic?

Dear NCSoft, I really don't know what is the actual price of this as nerves, stress effects, work efforts etc., and how everything of this affect you, you and your team. It is not my business. I just can assume the amount of the load. But, at the bottom of line this is your work. Thank you.

Best Regards
With Respects:
I would like to know the level of difference to level in a party that was rising in helios of 5 lvs with up to 9 lvls without punishment, and up to 14 lvls with reduction of 50% of xp
Hello together,
Hello NCSoft,

Please for your statement regarding the following subjects:

Juji (http://boards.lineage2.com/member.php?u=159857) 06-29-2016, 05:56 AM wrote: - “The upgrades for the epic jewels were only for Korea and are not in our version.”.
- Dear NCSoft, Dear producer Mr. Jujy , when you wrote (only for Korea) did you check http://lineage2.plaync.com/global, and did you made any kind of research how exactly L2 updates are being developed / implemented in all other location regarding the subject?

Juji knows of course how the other territories handled the upgrades for the epic jewels - nobody got them. For your convenience, here are links to those territories' patch notes:
http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=1547&start=280#p33769

And since nobody got them (you will find possible reasons in the post linked above), the probability that we at NCWest will get them after a few weeks is rather low. There are basically two versions of the game - the Korean version and the overseas version, which is put together by this gentleman:

http://www.lineage2.com/media//content-images/news/thumbs/L2_Dev_Photos_Routing_5-thumb-1307x2000-4994.jpg
http://www.lineage2.com/en/news/community/interview-with-the-dev-team-05192016.php

While there are some minor differences between for example NCWest and Europe (Europe has the Royal Aden Training Camp for automated leveling, and we don't), for reasons of ease of maintenance Nam Taek-rim tries to keep the different territories as identical as possible. So for those upgrades to make it into the game, he would have to coordinate with NCJapan, NCTaiwan etc. and check how the economic situation is on their servers. Don't expect any news before next year :)
And here is a bug:
The Fast Run speed buff from the class-specific horse does not apply to a servitor any more (Blood Panther, Unison of Light, Thunder Hawk etc.). This makes the beasties lag behind during the Mithril Mines run and makes taking out the non-lunatic Grave Robber Warriors more difficult. It would be nice if the old version of the buff could be restored :)
I would like to know the level of difference to level in a party that was rising in helios of 5 lvs with up to 9 lvls without punishment, and up to 14 lvls with reduction of 50% of xp

The level party difference is not changed.

Within 6-9 levels of highest level party member = 1/3rd XP received
Within 5 levels of highest level party member = Normal XP
10 levels or more from highest level party member = 0 XP.
Hello together,
Hello NCSoft,

Please for your statement regarding the following subjects:

Juji (http://boards.lineage2.com/member.php?u=159857) 06-29-2016, 05:56 AM wrote: - “The upgrades for the epic jewels were only for Korea and are not in our version.”.
- Dear NCSoft, Dear producer Mr. Jujy , when you wrote (only for Korea) did you check http://lineage2.plaync.com/global, and did you made any kind of research how exactly L2 updates are being developed / implemented in all other location regarding the subject?

http://lineage2.plaync.com/global - (please see the image at the bottom and see the links)

Juji (http://boards.lineage2.com/member.php?u=159857) 06-29-2016, 09:42 PM wrote: - “…… I will discuss with the dev team tonight about implementing the crafting system and see if it will be included in a future maintenance update that will be clearly communicated before it releases.”.
- Dear NCSoft, Dear producer Mr. Jujy, more than 42-3 hours and still not even a word about epic jewels upgrade, nothing about the new craft system at all.

How was the meeting with the Lineage Development team, if I may politely ask, and did you all, manage to find a way to generalize the situation and to decide how to proceed according your business and future developments plans? When we can expect any info about the topic?

Dear NCSoft, I really don't know what is the actual price of this as nerves, stress effects, work efforts etc., and how everything of this affect you, you and your team. It is not my business. I just can assume the amount of the load. But, at the bottom of line this is your work. Thank you.

Best Regards
With Respects:I requested to have this system added back in, but the dev team said that the rare accessory crafting system was not well received in Korea and that they chose to take it out of the overseas version. They are actually working on a similar and improved system now that will be implemented later this year. We are waiting for documentation now.
hi
i have a problem with the exalted quest at lvl 100 i started the quest for lv3 exalted , i finished the quest for favor of the exalted lv 2 buff(Step up the lead) (with 10% xp) ,
the npc(Sir Gustav Athebaldt-Oren) gave me the certificate and the book , but when i clicked on the book to learn the lvl 2 buff has dissappeared from inventory and no buff learned.
Can anyone help me please i sent a ticket yesterday but nothing yet.
Thanks
hi
i have a problem with the exalted quest at lvl 100 i started the quest for lv3 exalted , i finished the quest for favor of the exalted lv 2 buff(Step up the lead) (with 10% xp) ,
the npc(Sir Gustav Athebaldt-Oren) gave me the certificate and the book , but when i clicked on the book to learn the lvl 2 buff has dissappeared from inventory and no buff learned.
Can anyone help me please i sent a ticket yesterday but nothing yet.
Thanks

Heya, I found your help ticket. Support should get in touch with you once they catch-up on their other support tickets ahead of yours. But I was able to confirm what you said so we should be able to fix that easily by giving you another spell book to try again.
Juji knows of course how the other territories handled the upgrades for the epic jewels - nobody got them. For your convenience, here are links to those territories' patch notes:
http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=1547&start=280#p33769

And since nobody got them (you will find possible reasons in the post linked above), the probability that we at NCWest will get them after a few weeks is rather low. There are basically two versions of the game - the Korean version and the overseas version, which is put together by this gentleman:

http://www.lineage2.com/media//content-images/news/thumbs/L2_Dev_Photos_Routing_5-thumb-1307x2000-4994.jpg
http://www.lineage2.com/en/news/community/interview-with-the-dev-team-05192016.php

While there are some minor differences between for example NCWest and Europe (Europe has the Royal Aden Training Camp for automated leveling, and we don't), for reasons of ease of maintenance Nam Taek-rim tries to keep the different territories as identical as possible. So for those upgrades to make it into the game, he would have to coordinate with NCJapan, NCTaiwan etc. and check how the economic situation is on their servers. Don't expect any news before next year :)



Hello together,
Hello NCSoft,
Hello dear Mr. or Mrs. Yadao,


First of all, thank you so much for this quick and accurate response. But sincerely, please forgive me i`m still a bit embarrassed. It is not a major stress, please don’t worry, just some small and maybe insignificant facts for someone, make me feel, more and more confused.
If you allow me this honor, can I ask several more questions, more related you're polite respond, than with my initial post..

1. I don`t have the honor and pleasure to know you.
As soon as your nick name is not colored in red, like (see) “Juji – Producer” or “Conquero – Administrator” or “Neutronium - QA Lead” nicknames, and unlike their positions descriptions here in this sacred place our forum (invented by old greeks), your name is colored in blue as mine, and your position is Beleth`s Slave (Remark – in mater of this conversation and area, Beleth is a imaginary monster), here is my humble question. Can i politely ask you to be so kind to introduce yourself, please (not personal data, just your position in structure or organization related with L2, you are taking at the moment).
Don’t get me wrong, my post has a direct recipient, and by my opinion as author, this recipient is not you.

2. Can I have the definition of (nobody got them)? Please feel free to share info about any, or about all ten (10) locations.
Please do not hesitate to give me a answer, if you can of course, why Mr. Juji share so early this info about epic jewelry and selenite ingredient etc., as I see all from L2 development side of the line were fully awared with fact that this may not be included in this particular L2 update.
It will be good your info to be lined with strong business oriented and player related arguments, please not with screenshots or pictures. Which lead me to my next question.

3. Can you give me a simple reason why picture of L2 Lead Designer Mr.Taeklim, somehow taking a place in your polite respond. Do you believe that this nice picture of Mr. Taeklim, give more weight on your arguments and your post?
- Please Mr. Taeklim, take my sincere apologies about mentioning your name in conversation in which you are not are participant (as far as I know).

4. What about my second question, for the results of L2 Development team meeting? Do you have any clues or I need to wait the people actually being there for response?

Thank you so much for the time you spend and for all your efforts. Your contribution in this conversation is a valuable for me. Thank you.
Best Regards.
With Respects.
I requested to have this system added back in, but the dev team said that the rare accessory crafting system was not well received in Korea and that they chose to take it out of the overseas version. They are actually working on a similar and improved system now that will be implemented later this year. We are waiting for documentation now.




Hello together,
Hello NCSoft,
Hello dear Mr. Juji,
Thank you so much for this, let say bit disappointment info Mr. Juji. Fully appreciate your contribution and your work.

As a member of very similar area for the past 18 years, really understand the cost of your work and of the exact needs in cases such this particular one. Thank you for (I requested to have it back).
Please share a info about this new similar and improved system, and please put your attention at your explanation on (They are). By my humble opinion this mean that time delay, this system to get to us, will take months.

Please keep us posted regarding the subject.

Thak you in advance for your cooperation it is valuable for me.

Best Regards.
With Respects.
well i tell about people tell me in clan was they see wrong.

First the system of lvl up low lvl, academy members its ok in XP but have strong problems with the SP cant get all skills.

Second the steel coins was remove from quest and they can buy SS (soul Shots) cause you was lower rate drop years ago for bots and still low rate drop and still bots active, the solution the new launcher and bann all bot are in you server for a years big problem never was solvent, and turn back the real rate of server drop.

third the firsr days no have problems for make daily quest now the bots turn back to spot and are imposible to make this quest urgent mass bann to bots farm and sell adenas more all Z user still using in COC ceremony of caos and olympiads and this time perma bann for ip or mac.

ty for all, a old player still boring of no solvent some problems for a years.
Hello all

I am 44 lvl and 86% and i must go 46 with less than 0.5% and no Quests...i saw that in Final patch notes you could went up till 85 with Tutorial Quests...it seems that this is not accurate :/
Hello all

I am 44 lvl and 86% and i must go 46 with less than 0.5% and no Quests...i saw that in Final patch notes you could went up till 85 with Tutorial Quests...it seems that this is not accurate :/

Yes i notice this too, there is moments when your character will need little push from mobs, but when you use the auto repeatable macro you won't notice how you will get the level for the next quest. I stuck at 45 lvl and i needed 46, so i found a good place to hunt and used the macro :D very helpful thing.

With your level go to Outlaw Forest
Hello together,
Hello NCSoft,
Hello dear Mr. or Mrs. Yadao,


First of all, thank you so much for this quick and accurate response. But sincerely, please forgive me i`m still a bit embarrassed. It is not a major stress, please don’t worry, just some small and maybe insignificant facts for someone, make me feel, more and more confused.
If you allow me this honor, can I ask several more questions, more related you're polite respond, than with my initial post..

1. I don`t have the honor and pleasure to know you.
As soon as your nick name is not colored in red, like (see) “Juji – Producer” or “Conquero – Administrator” or “Neutronium - QA Lead” nicknames, and unlike their positions descriptions here in this sacred place our forum (invented by old greeks), your name is colored in blue as mine, and your position is Beleth`s Slave (Remark – in mater of this conversation and area, Beleth is a imaginary monster), here is my humble question. Can i politely ask you to be so kind to introduce yourself, please (not personal data, just your position in structure or organization related with L2, you are taking at the moment).
Don’t get me wrong, my post has a direct recipient, and by my opinion as author, this recipient is not you.

2. Can I have the definition of (nobody got them)? Please feel free to share info about any, or about all ten (10) locations.
Please do not hesitate to give me a answer, if you can of course, why Mr. Juji share so early this info about epic jewelry and selenite ingredient etc., as I see all from L2 development side of the line were fully awared with fact that this may not be included in this particular L2 update.
It will be good your info to be lined with strong business oriented and player related arguments, please not with screenshots or pictures. Which lead me to my next question.

3. Can you give me a simple reason why picture of L2 Lead Designer Mr.Taeklim, somehow taking a place in your polite respond. Do you believe that this nice picture of Mr. Taeklim, give more weight on your arguments and your post?
- Please Mr. Taeklim, take my sincere apologies about mentioning your name in conversation in which you are not are participant (as far as I know).

4. What about my second question, for the results of L2 Development team meeting? Do you have any clues or I need to wait the people actually being there for response?

Thank you so much for the time you spend and for all your efforts. Your contribution in this conversation is a valuable for me. Thank you.
Best Regards.
With Respects.

It's Mr. Hu Yidao (https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%83%A1%E4%B8%80%E5%88%80), also known as Elmar. I am male in real life, looking pretty much like my avatar on Rochand :)

As you have correctly spotted, I have a blue name, i.e. I have absolutely nothing to do with NCsoft. In fact I am the absolute opposite of NCsoft and I am sure that Juji, the Producer of Lineage 2 at NCWest aka The Boss, would prefer to see me dead rather today than tomorrow. You can click on my forum name in the left side bar, then choose "Find More Posts by Yidao"; this will give you an idea what I mean. I am what they used to call an Independent Deterrent (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanguard-class_submarine), or you may also call me God of Destruction (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=242291&page=19#373). Or simply The Humorist. Hohoho.

So far apart from us only Japan and Taiwan have Helios (Russia is, as far as I know, still on the PTS), and you will find the information in the links on Rochand. As to why Juji first gave the information about upgrading Epic Jewelry, please refer to my post here:
http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?p=3532626#post3532626
As Robert De Niro pointed out in Ronin, the map is not the territory and the patch notes are not the patch. No conspiracy, no arguments, just stuff happening :)

I put in the picture of Nam Taek-rim simply to show you who makes our version of the game. You will find the whole crew listed here in the "Global Dev." section:
http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/%EC%A0%9C%EC%9E%91%EC%A7%84

As for the results of the tele-meeting with the Koreans (Juji is sitting in California), please refer to his post on the previous page. The improved system is not yet live in Korea, so we will get it at the earliest next year. There is always a half-year delay :)
I requested to have this system added back in, but the dev team said that the rare accessory crafting system was not well received in Korea and that they chose to take it out of the overseas version. They are actually working on a similar and improved system now that will be implemented later this year. We are waiting for documentation now.


What about the fishing agathion system talked on the preliminary patch notes? Were they removed the same way?

I would like to point out that the faction system without it might be almost completely useless as the rewards are almost none.
Any GM can tell me why 88 lvl + rb dont got random rispown time ????????????
or is that fix for some special ppl to kill and make mony ?????????
and why no fix like low lvl rb , to all open world rb got rispown random time ?????????
What about the fishing agathion system talked on the preliminary patch notes? Were they removed the same way?

I would like to point out that the faction system without it might be almost completely useless as the rewards are almost none.Those Zodiac Agathions were promotion items that were introduced in other territories. We currently do not have plans to add them to the Store.
Those Zodiac Agathions were promotion items that were introduced in other territories. We currently do not have plans to add them to the Store.


From Preliminary Patch notes:
 Players can now combine Zodiac Agathions.
o Permanent Zodiac Agathions were given as rewards for the Fishing tournament, and can
be upgraded up to Stage 5 through combining.
 The names and grading of Zodiac Agathion bracelets have been changed as shown below.
...
 Zodiac Agathion Boxes can be exchanged through Fishing Guild Members.
 Exchanging consumes “Stardust” and “Gemstone - R-grade”, which can be obtained by fishing.

Besides this there was a box saying you could trade "Agathion - Zodiac Stage 1 Ugly Fish" into "Zodiac Agathion Box". (guessing the rare fish that would give the stage 1 agathions)

I understand that you are aiming to make this a profitable L2Store event, but by removing this content it will render the Fishing Guild useless as this was the basic goal of the Fishing faction.

What will be the point of the fishing guild now? Are any plans to introduce any content that makes it interest to use?
I requested to have this system added back in, but the dev team said that the rare accessory crafting system was not well received in Korea and that they chose to take it out of the overseas version. They are actually working on a similar and improved system now that will be implemented later this year. We are waiting for documentation now.



Juji, so bottom line, NCWest is not going to do anything and all people who bought low level jewelry to upgrade epics simply lost their money?

PS: this was an elegant way to rid off tons of those jewelries which NCWest pump to the servers through the events selling **** for NCcoins, and really stupid that it did no happen.
Juji, so bottom line, NCWest is not going to do anything and all people who bought low level jewelry to upgrade epics simply lost their money?

There is indeed a excess of rb jewelry that this system would take care of. Again, i don't know why it had so bad rep in Korea, (maybe the extra stats would break the gaming experience) but i'l wait to see what they come up with.
the extra boosts was marginal but still nice to have for those playing at end game level as every lil bit helps in stacking up stuff.. I mean I wouldn't call having +3 boost in either of STR / CON / DEX / INT / MEN or +3% pdef/mdef etc game breaking, particulary when you can't chose more then 1 of each type aka it's not possible to have 2x +3 STR rings etc.
NCWEST,

and maybe you will make an event and buy back all this crap to the shop at reasonable price? so, people would not be so upset with this update change....
the extra boosts was marginal but still nice to have for those playing at end game level as every lil bit helps in stacking up stuff.. I mean I wouldn't call having +3 boost in either of STR / CON / DEX / INT / MEN or +3% pdef/mdef etc game breaking, particulary when you can't chose more then 1 of each type aka it's not possible to have 2x +3 STR rings etc.

Agree with you too with just one exception: the Skill Cooldown -3%.
That would be a gamebreaker in oly as it would render Isses with constant Angel Touch/related skills making them invincible.
From Preliminary Patch notes:

Besides this there was a box saying you could trade "Agathion - Zodiac Stage 1 Ugly Fish" into "Zodiac Agathion Box". (guessing the rare fish that would give the stage 1 agathions)

I understand that you are aiming to make this a profitable L2Store event, but by removing this content it will render the Fishing Guild useless as this was the basic goal of the Fishing faction.

What will be the point of the fishing guild now? Are any plans to introduce any content that makes it interest to use?Actually, this patch note below is in our version and is working as intended for players who had won the permanent Zodiac Agathions from the fishing tournament system before it was removed. I do not have the rates for upgrading, but it is definitely NOT 100%. You need to have the same star agathion to compound it (e.g. 3 Star Capricorn + 3 Star Capricorn = 4 Star Capricorn).

· Players can now combine Zodiac Agathions.
o Permanent Zodiac Agathions were given as rewards for the Fishing tournament, and can be upgraded up to Stage 5 through combining.
Actually, this patch note below is in our version and is working as intended for players who had won the permanent Zodiac Agathions from the fishing tournament system before it was removed. I do not have the rates for upgrading, but it is definitely NOT 100%. You need to have the same star agathion to compound it (e.g. 3 Star Capricorn + 3 Star Capricorn = 4 Star Capricorn).

· Players can now combine Zodiac Agathions.
o Permanent Zodiac Agathions were given as rewards for the Fishing tournament, and can be upgraded up to Stage 5 through combining.
So where do you get the Agathion - Zodiac Stage 1 Ugly Fish mentioned on the preliminary patch notes? Only on a future fishing event?
Hello!

It is possible to give us drop and spoil calculator?

(not l2wiki and other websites)

One for this server, with our % what we have.

Please Juji make one for us, or share if it already exist!


Juji any chance for drop/spoil calculator? or we can forget it? :S

(that ban hammer was a good job today)
Hello all

I am 44 lvl and 86% and i must go 46 with less than 0.5% and no Quests...i saw that in Final patch notes you could went up till 85 with Tutorial Quests...it seems that this is not accurate :/
Yes even using the runes constantly you won't get enough XP from the quests alone. I've had to do quite a bit of grinding on my newest character just to get across the gaps. There is definitely a problem with a lack of SP though. Kind of feels like the old days.
I've read in the patch notes that quests are added to level a toon to 85.
The last levels until 80 can be filled with Varka and Ketra quests.

But after 80, all the quests are not available for Ertheia?

Since the XP was reduced because of the quests, how can the Ertheia level up fast to lvl 85? (besides powerlevel or raidboss)

This!! How could i exp to reach 85 with an ertheia, after the 80 or 81? I don't find other quests
There are so many problems with lvling up till 85 :/
Juji,

I don't think the new system for 1-85 is working as intended. It was supposed to quest line to 85. However the xp given from the quests stops at each point before the next one can be given. Even with the xp runes 100% being given, the xp from the mobs has been nerfed so bad that it is taking a ridiculous amount of time to level a new character.

I thought the idea of this is to make it easier for new characters/alts to be brought into the fold, however it is much much harder.

This may have something to do with the 50% xp server setting that was active before and now is not.

Can you please look into if this is "working as intended" or if something is broken?
Juji,

I don't think the new system for 1-85 is working as intended. It was supposed to quest line to 85. However the xp given from the quests stops at each point before the next one can be given. Even with the xp runes 100% being given, the xp from the mobs has been nerfed so bad that it is taking a ridiculous amount of time to level a new character.

I thought the idea of this is to make it easier for new characters/alts to be brought into the fold, however it is much much harder.

This may have something to do with the 50% xp server setting that was active before and now is not.

Can you please look into if this is "working as intended" or if something is broken?Yeah I experienced the same thing with my fresh destroyer character. I used the XP runes constantly and it still had several gaps at levels beyond 55ish. It's actually taking longer to get to awakened on that character than it did the first destroyer that I made some time ago. On the flip side the paulina gear is really nice and it makes me wish I had waited on the new alts even though the grind is longer now.

Also good luck leveling a subclass now...
Juji, please make clear the situation over elcyum (risen prices even for regular shop) and non-working Ron's Dual Blunt feature.
EV faction q:
Elven Botany
Contamination Containment
what i need to do in them and what reward?
to reach faction 2lvl i need to kill a lot of mobs, killing mobs don't gives any exp(1 k95 gives same exp as 60h grinding in ev) so is it worth to grind ev to get faction lvl2?
Here is the quest guide for Elven Botany:
http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/%EC%97%98%ED%94%84%EC%9D%98+%EC%8B%9D%EB%AC%BC%ED% 95%99
(the flowers you need to hunt are in the second step)

Here is the guide for Contamination Containment:
http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/%EC%98%A4%EC%97%BC+%ED%99%95%EC%9E%A5+%EB%B0%A9%EC %A7%80
There are 3 levels of the mission you can choose, the nymphs you must kill are the same, only the number differs (100, 200, 300)

At Faction Level 2 you can use the east and west sides of Celestiel’s Teleport. I don't know whether that's worth it.
question remain not unswared... Contamination Containment is daily q ( https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=lt&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Flineage2.power.plaync.com%2Fwiki%2F %25EC%2598%25A4%25EC%2597%25BC%2B%25ED%2599%2595%2 5EC%259E%25A5%2B%25EB%25B0%25A9%25EC%25A7%2580&edit-text=&act=url )
Crude Exp
Skill Points undecided
Friendship Points (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=1&hl=lt&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/%25EC%259A%25B0%25ED%2598%25B8%25EB%258F%2584%2B%2 5ED%258F%25AC%25EC%259D%25B8%25ED%258A%25B8&usg=ALkJrhhkAmncaRPMRXz2OnOV3dNaipf6Ag) undecided
Crate - Guardians of the world can (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=1&hl=lt&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/%25EB%25B3%25B4%25EA%25B8%2589%2B%25EC%2583%2581%2 5EC%259E%2590%2B-%2B%25EC%2584%25B8%25EA%25B3%2584%25EC%2588%2598%2 5EC%259D%2598%2B%25EC%2588%2598%25ED%2598%25B8%25E C%259E%2590&usg=ALkJrhgRXjLjWJEqYPIhVwGkXfmeImt0Vg) TBD
so no exp? exp only from mobs?

in "elf botany" q it said how much exp, but in other not.


opinion about helios update:
before update i done daily/weekly k95/balok q, after week of trying new zones and q's, i still do k95/balok... grinding with such exp is useless, mobs don't drop anything. so all new content is kinda useless... i saw a lot of old/inactive players came back to check update, they soon will dissapear again...
question remain not unswared... Contamination Containment is daily q ( https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=lt&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Flineage2.power.plaync.com%2Fwiki%2F %25EC%2598%25A4%25EC%2597%25BC%2B%25ED%2599%2595%2 5EC%259E%25A5%2B%25EB%25B0%25A9%25EC%25A7%2580&edit-text=&act=url )
Crude Exp
Skill Points undecided
Friendship Points (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=1&hl=lt&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/%25EC%259A%25B0%25ED%2598%25B8%25EB%258F%2584%2B%2 5ED%258F%25AC%25EC%259D%25B8%25ED%258A%25B8&usg=ALkJrhhkAmncaRPMRXz2OnOV3dNaipf6Ag) undecided
Crate - Guardians of the world can (https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=1&hl=lt&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/%25EB%25B3%25B4%25EA%25B8%2589%2B%25EC%2583%2581%2 5EC%259E%2590%2B-%2B%25EC%2584%25B8%25EA%25B3%2584%25EC%2588%2598%2 5EC%259D%2598%2B%25EC%2588%2598%25ED%2598%25B8%25E C%259E%2590&usg=ALkJrhgRXjLjWJEqYPIhVwGkXfmeImt0Vg) TBD
so no exp? exp only from mobs?

No, you do get an exp/SP reward. The problem is that there are three different types of mission, each with a different reward. The Powerwiki just reprints what you see in your quest interface, where it alway says "Undecided"/미정 with such types of quest. To give you a rough idea, in the quests that have a fixed reward, you get 110,738,880,000 exp:
http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/%EC%84%B8%EB%A0%A5#hd105039
Those Zodiac Agathions were promotion items that were introduced in other territories. We currently do not have plans to add them to the Store.











in the previous update was possible to obtain Agathions fishing, now even that more is possible is absurd such captalista greed limit aquizição through sales of you in a little while so it will be possible to buy weapons through l2store and what they will do after ?
Please use this thread for discussion about the Helios Content Update and Final Patch Notes (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=289486).
Have a way to do not delete buffs when entering or re-enter balok zone ? and i leveling one titan and returned now after update i get lvl 83 and not appear quest to do
killing mobs don't gives any exp(1 k95 gives same exp as 60h grinding in ev) so is it worth to grind ev to get faction lvl2?

There's something wrong with your math.
1-2 hours of grinding in EV (depending on your kill speed) gives roughly the same xp as completing Kartia95 in a duo (without xp runes/vit pots). Then you turn in the daily quest (the 300 mobs one) to receive an xp bonus equal to what you can get in solo Kartia.

Also, if you spend 45 minutes in the Dimensional Rift and turn in the quest you get another chunk of xp comparable to what you get from group K95, and nice items as extra reward.
Players can now additionally obtain “Paulina’s Equipment Set” once they complete the Awakening or 3rd Liberation.
o “Paulina’s Equipment Set” is made up of weapons, armor, and accessories, and the set expires after 30 days of use.

no equipment set for ertheia?

edit: nvm i found it
now bots are back and its imposible make dayli quest all low spot full of ertheia and sumoners bots
The helios final patch notes states that:


Fixed the issue with “Attribute Change Crystal - R99-grade” not changing the attributes of “Shadow Shaper”.
Fixed the issue with “Weapon Attribute Change Crystal - R-grade” not changing the attributes of Shadow weapons.


I have a Top Shadow Burster that is classified as R-Grade and I still can't change its attribute using the "Weapon Attribute Change Crystal - R-grade" available in the mentoring NPC.
Hello!
No idea if anyone notice but you can't "shift" in chat window something that is "Augmented" - for instance - an augmented weapon.
Hello!
No idea if anyone notice but you can't "shift" in chat window something that is "Augmented" - for instance - an augmented weapon.

Already Reported
The helios final patch notes states that:


Fixed the issue with “Attribute Change Crystal - R99-grade” not changing the attributes of “Shadow Shaper”.
Fixed the issue with “Weapon Attribute Change Crystal - R-grade” not changing the attributes of Shadow weapons.


I have a Top Shadow Burster that is classified as R-Grade and I still can't change its attribute using the "Weapon Attribute Change Crystal - R-grade" available in the mentoring NPC.

try r99 change stone since u have top shadow.... other but expencive option is to go to yin master aden out of blacksmith .... remove atribute and add new of your choice...
i am not sure if this is the right place to post but i have a problem... i have ruby lvl 2 equiped and i dont see it in my passive skills

https://s32.postimg.org/80fl0bhj9/Shot00018.jpg

ruby/saph never showed in passive so no bug
I am so screwed by epic jewel upgrade. Don't know what to say.. Maybe time to leave
I have a problem combining soul crystals. Before the update I successfully combined two lv5 Kain soul crystals, but few days ago I tried two lv6 and it gave me the message "this is not a valid combination".
I submitted a ticket but the support remans silent and I probably won't get an answer before Monday. Has anyone expierenced the same problem?
to be able to combine lvl5 or higher was an NCWest exclusive and obviously this got reset/removed by the Helios update so it's a bug and should be added to Juji's to fix list.

btw all NCWest exclusive aspects got removed not just this 1 thingie..
Why big lvl rb 88+ lvl dont have randon rispown time like low lvl rb ? , any gm can answer me ?
Hallo,
I have noticed three game bugs and one old that is still remaining:

- field raid bosses can be buffed again.
- sometimes maphs scrolls dont get activated but they are getting consumed by clicking them.
- tank auras dont stack as they used to be anymore, I believe(eg: templar aura and challenge aura).

Remaining old bug: Rarely when doing an instanced raidboss, it doesnt show it afterwards in your instance zone list but you cannot reenter and cannot use an extra pass and it gives an "unsuitable terms" message (also sometimes can reenter without using an extra pass).

Regards
Hallo,
- sometimes maphs scrolls dont get activated but they are getting consumed by clicking them.


Are you sure the raid boss didn't interrupt you with debuff while you click on the scroll ? Because few times i had this thing, onse i used Freya's Frozen Scroll at first boss in Nightmare Kamaloka and in same time he pulled me, so failed the scroll ;(. Since then i very carefully use the Marph's or Freya's scroll to not get interrupted :D Especially at Atelia Instance, it's really hell there :C
Harnak Wraith and Core bosses arent ingame in their locations nor in the raid information tab at all while the jewels they suppose to drop exist as options in Rafforty normally.
Harnak Wraith and Core bosses arent ingame in their locations nor in the raid information tab at all while the jewels they suppose to drop exist as options in Rafforty normally.You need to kill Helios for these raid bosses to appear.


Added 3 types of Giant Raid Boss.

Giant raid boss appears when HP decreases after Helios raid’s attack is processed for certain level.
You need to kill Helios for these raid bosses to appear.


Added 3 types of Giant Raid Boss.

Giant raid boss appears when HP decreases after Helios raid’s attack is processed for certain level.




Which one are you referring as the third one? As mimir is always up, shouldnt it also go up in a similar fashion as wraith and core there? Sorry if I misunderstood this exerpt quoted.
Which one are you referring as the third one? As mimir is always up, shouldnt it also go up in a similar fashion as wraith and core there? Sorry if I misunderstood this exerpt quoted.I am referring to the Enhanced Versions. There are two versions of Mimir and the Enhanced one only shows up when Helios is defeated.
I am referring to the Enhanced Versions. There are two versions of Mimir and the Enhanced one only shows up when Helios is defeated.

So mimir is always up while the other 2 and the enhanced version of mimir show up under conditions. Thanks for clearing that up!
Juji,the eviscarators PVE damage is reduced at least 25% ,may i ask you why that happened without any infos from patch notes?(Air light upgraded,inside potition upgraded but generally PVE damage reduced...):confused:
Air Light work in different way now, so yes pve damage reduced
can u tell us serber be online today?
Lf increase the reuse on ertheya mage hide skill. That lame class still have big advantage or increase the skill wich help him to be untargeted.
Lf increase the reuse on ertheya mage hide skill. That lame class still have big advantage or increase the skill wich help him to be untargeted.
If you cant kill an ertheia with an archer atm the issue is something else. This nerf is enough as is, no need to strangle every last drop of fun ertheia mages have.
Are you sure the raid boss didn't interrupt you with debuff while you click on the scroll ? Because few times i had this thing, onse i used Freya's Frozen Scroll at first boss in Nightmare Kamaloka and in same time he pulled me, so failed the scroll ;(. Since then i very carefully use the Marph's or Freya's scroll to not get interrupted :D Especially at Atelia Instance, it's really hell there :C

Yes ,I am sure of that. Happened to me 3xin k99 soloing,and there on dark rider I am always super focused to use maph only on angel touch:)
Boring. It is Boring. )) No fun . Lf Fun rly Juji give some fun plz :)
Boring. It is Boring. )) No fun . Lf Fun rly Juji give some fun plz :)

Yeap, juji now will take you by the hand and lead you to the fun.... because it's so close, but yet you don't see it.
Yeap, juji now will take you by the hand and lead you to the fun.... because it's so close, but yet you don't see it.

Its not boring for you ? oO what you doing m8 ? ) dont tell me you grinding in giant caves ? :D please )

Oooohhhhhhh Juji i have idea! . Please make new type of event l2store item synchro with grinding. I mean some buff for 4000 Ncoins when you hunt depend Golden crates drops :D or abundance boxes drops . 4000 Ncoins for 7 days for example . 50 boxes a day will do! I mean that would really motivate me go out of town srsly i do not lie . Hunting mobs and buy buff with pleasure .
And its not boring to exp then and l2store has profit and more fun . Yah camon better than sell those boxes so noone leaves town. If this buff applied you go out and you have to kill mobs this is brilliant idea. !
Its not boring for you ? oO what you doing m8 ? ) dont tell me you grinding in giant caves ? :D please )

The whole life is boring for me :D In this game can't be 24/7 fun of course, thats not Counter strike haha. I have fun by leveling some own mentee; By playing Ceremony of Chaos 4 days per week for 4 hours, then olympiad, then siege; by doing instances with randoms or cp, faction quests and pvp with my cp. So there is fun few hours per day.
It happened to me in Olys as a Hell Knight, I don't know if other classes with summons experience the same

Situation:
- Battle ends with Panther alive
- Port to town and Panther is not with me
- Try to unsummon (have the action in shortcut): "Yo do not have a servitor"
- Try to summon: "Yo do not have enough summon points"

It seems like the Panther was left alive in the arena and I'm unable to unsummon nor summon it again

- Restart: Panther appears alive next to me

Check it please
I requested to have this system added back in, but the dev team said that the rare accessory crafting system was not well received in Korea and that they chose to take it out of the overseas version. They are actually working on a similar and improved system now that will be implemented later this year. We are waiting for documentation now.


Dear Juji and NCWest,

more then two weeks gone since your post and still no information, and me, as well as many other people, have a lot of low level epics in WH bought to upgrade soul epic jewelry, and without this info i can not decide what to do with it.

so, my question is by when we can get an info about "similar and improved system"?

PS: hope that this impovements would be related to passive skills itself added to epics with selenite that would require still low level epics, otherwise 2b adena that i invested into 60 freya necklaces would be wasted. and generally speaking, you would not solve the problem with excessive number of epic jewelries that flooded all servers after your events.
there's no new system as such yet in Korea so this won't be happening any time soon I'm afraid.. I've started to sell everything I had stock piled on this for my personal use as it's resources I may need at one of the upcoming events so meh..

currently Korea has:
- improved epics by the system Juji says they apparently don't like
- upgrade Helios epic ring by breaking down specific giants epics which has a very low % to success
- new epic augment stones with much improved effects, so better the Aria LS, and for less R Gems cost then what we have now.. like 10 per try instead of 100

that's all there is on epic jewels in Korea at the moment.

L2 Japan has even more new things we don't have yet either btw like:
- improved eternal armor bonus aka you can have both PVP & PVE effects
- 6 slot Brooch
- extra party wide effects/bufs when having more then 1 improved brooch jewel equipped

improved brooch jewels will be introduced at the next Brooch NC Store event and basically means you will need to combine 2 of the same type of lvl 5's for an bonus effect.

another thing worth noting is that so far no news on if we will get the 7 sign SA added, this we're deffi better of without as that stuff is completely overpowered & very expensive to obtain $$$ wise and will destroy any balance in Oly/PVP but yeah Korea has it so we might get that too at one point.
Draeke, thanks for info but i would really appreciate the official answer from NCSoft before i make my decision... to start selling low-epics means we get back 30 to 50 % max... for the first items... but flooding market with hundreds or maybe 1000+ of freya necklaces is worthless. easier to sell it to the shop at 7m each and say big thank you to Juji and NCSoft.
Monday is meeting day, so at the earliest you can expect an official answer on Monday afternoon, California time.

The really important point in Draecke's post is that as we speak there is no new system for upgrading Epics in Korea. So even if they introduce it next Wednesday, it will take at least until Christmas to arrive at NCWest. And since it does not exist in Korea, we don't even know whether this new system will also use dissolved Epics to upgrade other Epics, or whether it will be something completely different.

If worse comes to worst, something got lost in translation and what the developers really meant when they talked to Juji were the upgraded Bloody/Dark armors as they are already live in Japan.

Or it might even happen that the developers suddenly decide to implement the current Korean system over here after all. There was no outrage over this system in Korea, it was just completely ignored. I think there was not one screenshot where you could see such upgraded Boss Jewelry. But Korean players ignore most of the new content, so that's not really a reason not to bring this over here :)
we should not look at koreans being europe or US.... they live in own world. if they dont like it, its their problem... lets introduce this system here and next day i promise to post here 4 screanshots of my soul baium, tezza, aq and orfen, and i can bet there will be 100+ of epics from others. i know people who have their WHs full of these items just to upgrade their own epics, not to resell, so all the print screans would be below :)
Theres a bug with the dimensional rift.

If you are in aden, and got inv full (lets say 94/98 itms) you can enter dimensional rift, but once there you cant go back to aden, theres a sign saying you cant doit with inv full.
Theres a bug with the dimensional rift.

If you are in aden, and got inv full (lets say 94/98 itms) you can enter dimensional rift, but once there you cant go back to aden, theres a sign saying you cant doit with inv full.

Yes!!! And there's literally nothing you can do. It's NOT a peace zone, so you can't mail. The only option is to DROP ITEMS or bring a character to offload stuff to. (Which has to be 95+ as well). If i wouldn't have had a trusted clannie the other day, I would've been stuck there...
Yes!!! And there's literally nothing you can do. It's NOT a peace zone, so you can't mail. The only option is to DROP ITEMS or bring a character to offload stuff to. (Which has to be 95+ as well). If i wouldn't have had a trusted clannie the other day, I would've been stuck there...

Trade someone and just unload a bunch of item into the trade window, then enter.
No need to click accept, just need to put the items in the trade window.
Monday is meeting day, so at the earliest you can expect an official answer on Monday afternoon, California time.

The really important point in Draecke's post is that as we speak there is no new system for upgrading Epics in Korea. So even if they introduce it next Wednesday, it will take at least until Christmas to arrive at NCWest. And since it does not exist in Korea, we don't even know whether this new system will also use dissolved Epics to upgrade other Epics, or whether it will be something completely different.

If worse comes to worst, something got lost in translation and what the developers really meant when they talked to Juji were the upgraded Bloody/Dark armors as they are already live in Japan.

Or it might even happen that the developers suddenly decide to implement the current Korean system over here after all. There was no outrage over this system in Korea, it was just completely ignored. I think there was not one screenshot where you could see such upgraded Boss Jewelry. But Korean players ignore most of the new content, so that's not really a reason not to bring this over here :)


Hello again Dear Mr. Yadao,

Hope that you are fine, and everything around you is good enough to make you smile. It is a pleasure for me, again to have the opportunity to share and discuss with you (this time) some external information about Lineage 2 versions and updates. Your opinion is important for me, and believe me, in all aspects of my attitude to your posts and actions, i invest a lot of respect and some humble unconcealed curiosity.

Now if you allow, please let me lead you to my question and polite request.

For several times i notice that you strongly and very passionately took a unshakeable position behind the idea, that this new (epics, selenite etc.) craft system is not real and it is not exist anymore in real L2 life all over the world. That's why, please for your statement about following screenshot (and in particular, for the part enclosure in the red squares). This is a screenshot, from the official Korea Forum, from official Korea Lineage 2 Server. Screen is taken 43 days ago. If you need a translation or more screens (acc names, servers names, other info, etc.,) or proves for this mater (from this month), just let me know. Gladly i will do everything to satisfy your request.




http://imageshack.com/a/img924/6742/L0Kizr.jpg


external link (https://imageshack.us/i/poL0Kizrj)

How i wrote in above, politely and with respect ask you for your final and categorical statement "Is there are new craft system (regarding epics, selente etc.) or not, available at Korea L2 servers". Simple "YES" or "NO" , completely will satisfy my interest.

At least your statement "I think there was not one screenshot where you could see such upgraded Boss Jewelry" i believe, must be reviewed. If this is my desteny i will help you in this :) with everything i can. It will be honor and pleasure at same tim, for me.

Meanwhile i will stay on your full disposal about this and all other related issues. In case there is anything else you need as info or etc., regarding the subject of this conversation, just let me know.

Best Regards.
With Respects:
you partially misunderstood Yidao as he was referring to Juji's post where Juji claims Korea regards the current Korean Improved Epics process as a failure and will be implementing a new one which will be rolled out to their overseas territories as well.. something that hasn't even happen yet in Korea so it will be many Months if not close to a Year before we would see any of such.

so yes Korea does have still the current improved epics process but no other region will get it as per NC Korea decree.

anyone reading Korean L2 forums/wiki/patch notes etc. knows what Korea has and several of us that like to discuss them in a mature way do so at Rochand (http://boards.rochand.com/) and if you visit that place you'll see Yidao has quite a firm grasp on what NC Korea does but also how they limit/influence what gets released outside of Korea.

btw it's cute so many people get upset over not getting the improved epics and completely ignore the fact we're apparently also not getting the improved eternal armors for example lol..
For several times i notice that you strongly and very passionately took a unshakeable position behind the idea, that this new (epics, selenite etc.) craft system is not real and it is not exist anymore in real L2 life all over the world. That's why, please for your statement about following screenshot (and in particular, for the part enclosure in the red squares). This is a screenshot, from the official Korea Forum, from official Korea Lineage 2 Server. Screen is taken 43 days ago. If you need a translation or more screens (acc names, servers names, other info, etc.,) or proves for this mater (from this month), just let me know. Gladly i will do everything to satisfy your request.




http://imageshack.com/a/img924/6742/L0Kizr.jpg


external link (https://imageshack.us/i/poL0Kizrj)

How i wrote in above, politely and with respect ask you for your final and categorical statement "Is there are new craft system (regarding epics, selente etc.) or not, available at Korea L2 servers". Simple "YES" or "NO" , completely will satisfy my interest.

At least your statement "I think there was not one screenshot where you could see such upgraded Boss Jewelry" i believe, must be reviewed.

To say it clearly again, there is NO new craft system (regarding epics, selente etc.) available at the Korean L2 servers, neither live, nor PTS, nor Classic. Nothing as even been announced about such a system in Korea, so we don't know whether it will be using dissolved Epics to upgrade other Epics, or a completely different manner.

And yes, my statement that there was not one screenshot where you could see such upgraded Boss Jewelry must be revised. You found one :)

You really seem to have misunderstood me. The Shilenite system does exist in Korea, but not in any overseas territory. Please refer to what I wrote here about the various versions of the game:
http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=289494&page=7#130
Simply put, Korea is one thing, all other territories are a different thing, but all non-Korean territories are more or less the same.
btw it's cute so many people get upset over not getting the improved epics and completely ignore the fact we're apparently also not getting the improved eternal armors for example lol..
Well the improved epics where in the pre-patchnotes and ppl. did stock up on some epics they wanted to turn to silente and now can't, so it's totally understandable.
Well the improved epics where in the pre-patchnotes and ppl. did stock up on some epics they wanted to turn to silente and now can't, so it's totally understandable.

actually most of those people knew about it Months before those patch notes were posted, I know that for a fact as I'm one of those as it was general knowledge among the Rochand crowd..

the difference between me and the rest is that I did it purely for personal usage and not to resell for stupid prices later..

you can compare it to inside trading and in this case it didn't work out as Juji got pulled back by his boss - no amount of posts here is going to change that fact.

if you really want to give it a shot create a poll and see if there's truly enough support/demand on all NCWest servers for this system that Juji can try to convince the Korean Dev Mgt hmm ?

ps, in case it wasn't clear I do want this improved epic system as well, just being realistic about our chances though.
actually most of those people knew about it Months before those patch notes were posted, I know that for a fact as I'm one of those as it was general knowledge among the Rochand crowd..

the difference between me and the rest is that I did it purely for personal usage and not to resell for stupid prices later..

you can compare it to inside trading and in this case it didn't work out as Juji got pulled back by his boss - no amount of posts here is going to change that fact.

if you really want to give it a shot create a poll and see if there's truly enough support/demand on all NCWest servers for this system that Juji can try to convince the Korean Dev Mgt hmm ?

ps, in case it wasn't clear I do want this improved epic system as well, just being realistic about our chances though.
well knowing something from Rochand/Korean website and seeing something in pre-limited patchnotes are still two different things

And nah, I'll not start a poll or QQ.

I have a bunch of low epics for sale now that I will probably lose money on, it happens.

I gambled, I lost.

Next time, maybe I'll win again ;)
To say it clearly again, there is NO new craft system (regarding epics, selente etc.) available at the Korean L2 servers, neither live, nor PTS, nor Classic. Nothing as even been announced about such a system in Korea, so we don't know whether it will be using dissolved Epics to upgrade other Epics, or a completely different manner.

And yes, my statement that there was not one screenshot where you could see such upgraded Boss Jewelry must be revised. You found one :)

You really seem to have misunderstood me. The Shilenite system does exist in Korea, but not in any overseas territory. Please refer to what I wrote here about the various versions of the game:
http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=289494&page=7#130
Simply put, Korea is one thing, all other territories are a different thing, but all non-Korean territories are more or less the same.



Hello Mr. Yidao,

Sorry to say that but you statement is completely wrong. Please check, read, inform yourself for updates and versions for all other 9 locations except Korea. If you already did, something is wrong with your sources.

Regrettably i need to say, that i will not comment any more this matter, as we with every next post are going in very complicated and not so well reasoned dispute, as for me you do not have the necessary information and breadth of vision.

Please dont limit your self just to few popular forums and several web pages. Try to create accounts on mentioned servers it is not so big issue, it is the best way to see truth about that what are you trying to comment here. Believe me IT WORK.

Bext Regards.
With Respects:
Hello Mr. Yidao,

Sorry to say that but you statement is completely wrong. Please check, read, inform yourself for updates and versions for all other 9 locations except Korea. If you already did, something is wrong with your sources.

Regrettably i need to say, that i will not comment any more this matter, as we with every next post are going in very complicated and not so well reasoned dispute, as for me you do not have the necessary information and breadth of vision.

Please dont limit your self just to few popular forums and several web pages. Try to create accounts on mentioned servers it is not so big issue, it is the best way to see truth about that what are you trying to comment here. Believe me IT WORK.

Bext Regards.
With Respects:
Lets name korean craft sistem from pach notes as system 1

Lets nae juji idea in this thread as system 2

Yidao say system 2 is not in any place in earth , system 1 is only in korea and there no1 like him. So korean licenced dev team forbide system 1 out of korea. Is simple, tray sell or crystalise . Even if they start wiht realisation oh system 2 will be life in out korea servers from winter to next summer...
Lets name korean craft sistem from pach notes as system 1

Lets name Juji idea in this thread as system 2

Yidao say system 2 is not in any place in earth, system 1 is only in korea.

^ This


Let me say it again in boldface:

System 1 exists only in Korea but nowhere else:
http://boards.rochand.com/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=1547&start=280#p33769

System 2 exists neither in Korea nor anywhere else.


M0ns73R, what you will find linked in my post at Rochand are the final patch notes of NCJapan and NCTaiwan, the only territories apart from us where Helios is live. Are you seriously suggesting that those NCsoft branches are publishing false patch notes?
The most sad thing in all this story is that NCWest management which handles L2 in EU and NA (which are not that small regions compare to Korea) can not negotiate and convince those super-clever-Koreans-developers to put something here which other super-clever-Korean-payers do not like... which is already developed and there is no need to do a lot of additional work.

so, why you can not explain the situation that was created on NCWest servers and push Koreans to accept our point of view?
Do you understand how weak and unprofessional you look ?
Hello.
Anyone got more info about the new quest "Duty of the Survivor" lvl 85?
How much exp and adena it give now if you deliver 100 200 300 and 400 itens?
Thanks.

Tried the quest a couple of times now and you need to collect 100/200/300/... of each item to get a better reward it seems.

100 PE & 100 RB = 1.363.716a, 259.683.840xp, 311.580sp
200 PE & 200 RB = 2.727.432a, 513.967.680xp, 623.160sp

365 PE & 154 RB still only gives 1.363.716a, 259.683.840xp, 311.580sp.
A bug report. When you go to a blacksmith to change armor specialization from let's say Attack type to Defence type, once you press the exchange button the window closes. You get the exchange done, but it wasn't like this before.
Lol this thing just destroyed all my will to play, me and my friends invested all adena on jewels following patch notes information

To be honest i don't know why i am surprised Juji and his team failed one more time after long row of failures in past

Next time please better don't do anything you will do less damage than with your actions, or at least call your patch notes "false notes"

Just quoting a post for jewels, from the countless there are.
People dont u already know that ncwest dont take same patch as korea after soooo many updates but modified up to their own discretion?

There is only one server taking the same patch as korea and NCWEST is not the one. "Other servers" have the jewels update but not us.

Do your research before investing again.
Same thing happened with 4-5 slot brooches.
In Korea you can take these with adena - elcyum etc but here they put them at store. And i believe something similar will happen here also.
There is only one server taking the same patch as korea and NCWEST is not the one. "Other servers" have the jewels update but not us.

Do your research before investing again.
Same thing happened with 4-5 slot brooches.
In Korea you can take these with adena - elcyum etc but here they put them at store.

This is simply not true. In Korea you can not take any Brooches with adena - elcyum etc. They are all promotion/프로모션 only:
http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/%EB%9D%BC%EB%B9%84%EC%95%99%EB%A1%9C%EC%A6%88%EC%9 D%98+%ED%99%94%EB%A0%A4%ED%95%9C+%EB%B8%8C%EB%A1%9 C%EC%B9%98
http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/%EB%9D%BC%EB%B9%84%EC%95%99%EB%A1%9C%EC%A6%88%EC%9 D%98+%EC%98%81%EB%A1%B1%ED%95%9C+%EB%B8%8C%EB%A1%9 C%EC%B9%98
Getting those Brooches in-game is a feature exclusive to Russia and Western Europe.

And when you check the "Items" section of the final Helios patch notes for Europe (the link is censored here; google it), you will see that there you can't upgrade Boss Jewelry either.
No "other servers" have the jewels update.
It seems that Furios Slasher Description is wrong or the skill is bugged:

Patch Notes Description: Increases P. Atk. by 30% for 60 seconds when a two-handed sword/two-handed blunt weapon is equipped. Attack 5 enemies at the same time with a regular attack. Consumes 5 Soulstones.

It doesn't work with two-handed blunt weapon. You don't see the graphical effect nor the patk goes up. But I see both when I Change to a two-handed sword.

Could you ask the developers if there is a translation error or a bug?
It is definitely not a translation error. In the Korean skill description it also says two-handed blunt weapon/양손둔기:
http://lineage2.power.plaync.com/wiki/%ED%93%A8%EB%A6%AC%EC%96%B4%EC%8A%A4+%EC%8A%AC%EB% 9E%98%EC%85%94

Possibly this is a text bug in the original description. When a Bremnon Server Keeper (a kind of "deputy GM") made a detailed analysis of the Titan class, she wrote only of "getting the strong power of the two-handed sword/양손검" when discussing Furious Slasher:
http://lineage2.plaync.com/board/servernow/view?articleId=615002&aliasName=0460
(about 1/4 down the page)

Neutronium should know more :)
Works with retributer, blunt/two-handed
It seems that Furios Slasher Description is wrong or the skill is bugged:

Patch Notes Description: Increases P. Atk. by 30% for 60 seconds when a two-handed sword/two-handed blunt weapon is equipped. Attack 5 enemies at the same time with a regular attack. Consumes 5 Soulstones.

It doesn't work with two-handed blunt weapon. You don't see the graphical effect nor the patk goes up. But I see both when I Change to a two-handed sword.

Could you ask the developers if there is a translation error or a bug?

Currently the p. atk effect works with with both 'Retributer(Magic)' and 'Slasher(Fighter)' type weapons.

The graphical glowing effect only works for Fighter weapons 'Slashers' or 'Tauti's axe' for a Fighter 2-Hand Blunt example.
Two-handed blunt <> dual blunt
this is alot of ppl mad..chaos!
"Kid" you are funny. Like a kid i consider lineage][ as a game and like a nice kid i never and i'll never cheat into a game because i don't fear to loose.
May you can say the same? Sure not because you prefer lie to yourself and consider you are a good player while it was a program who manage all actions of all your cp members.

You can't imagine how much i don't care about you are thinking about me, i reply to you just because you are ridiculous and you make me laugh.

Btw iam not crying i just expose facts, in real life i am joiner, my own boss, and i consider my customers with a lot of respect and honnesty because thanks to them i can feed my family. I just expect the same from NcWest team.


lol...NAILED IT!
A bug report. Open clan window - and cant see how much people online. "show/hide" tab is under this numbers.
Please great lineage2 administrator,
Add sonatas and resistances in the olympiads npc!!!

to put an end to the game once.

THANKS!