Various Server Issues

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This thread is a step in the right direction as far as communication from NCSoft goes.
While it may not be a sufficient compensation, players should have their vit replenished before the weekend begins.

No, They should give double xp server wide for the same length as this has been happening as well as refund NCoin for those that have purchased XP runes within the past 2 weeks.
Actually, the Innova issue was soulshots-only. Our issue is server lag in a more extreme way that affects not only soulshots but many other things. Thus, our issue is entirely separate and their fix would not work for us. This is why it's been taking a couple of days to pinpoint the problem, create a fix, test it, create another if the first fails, test it, etc...

This killed me when i saw it totally ... pinpoint waht? Every single person playin on this servers knows what's the reason and every single person in ncsoft knows it too .... tons of bots loaded in talking island for lol event and twice or dunno how much more in every low lvl hunting zone, thats the reason of lags .... it takes so hard to delete agathions to see if this could stop lags or not ..
Oki, thx alot for the answer Sace, see server is comming down now, cross fingers..
lol Sace taht edit was **** bloody fast >.<
No, They should give double xp server wide for the same length as this has been happening as well as refund NCoin for those that have purchased XP runes within the past 2 weeks.

+1
Not that it will happen but we are allowed to dream
SACE for the love of God, fix the SS and BSS. We can live with the others lags.
SACE for the love of God, fix the SS and BSS. We can live with the others lags.

This lag issue we have is system side and affects many things, including soulshots. The fix we're implementing right now should remedy that, including soulshots.
X2 xp and yummy vit back would be like heaven hehe :):):)
Chronos goes up.....and down.....up and down.... its like a yo yo!
This lag issue we have is system side and affects many things, including soulshots. The fix we're implementing right now should remedy that, including soulshots.

Dear Sace, if the problem exist, just delete the event. Trust me, we can live with out it.
I guess you are one of those who'd run an afk shop with stupidly overpriced items for months, hoping that someone even more stupid would bump into your shop eventually and buy something.
Well, here's a tip: check everyone else's price on the item you're going to auction, set your price at the minimum, and you'll get your item sold within a couple days, at the expense of a rather small fee.

Actually... 29m is what I was asking for +6 Dynasty breast (bard). Too high you think? I'm not sure, only been playing L2 for a couple of years.
Well, so many "stupid" ppl playing, since ive set up private shops with 1-2 mill under AH price and same item on AH, but 1-2 mill higer than my shop and guess what gets sold first?
Up and down, up and down. At least i was correct about time... Already 1+ hour... 30 min was dream. Lets hope they will fix it at the end.:)
I hope they do something to compensate me for wasting 10 dollars on xp runes.
Good Grief!!! its still down? :mad:
Lets pray. If the creators of the game cant find a solution only God can.
God help us.

You would pray to a god to fix a video game? Prioritize your life.

Also, not everyone here is christian... Hell, I'd venture there are even those here with no beliefs, whatsoever. I guess what I'm getting at, here, is not everyone believes in your God, and not everybody *wants* to, so kindly leave him/her/it/flying spaghetti monster/whatever *out* of it, would ya? This game has it's own gods and goddesses, let's leave it to them.

Thanks,
-Jay
NC:
To me it doesnt look like u deal with any problems at all. You just talk and talk.
This is in all of your games! A lot of RMT and botters.
The only thing u need to do is go on the server and start banning bots without "investigating" the player for 6 months first.
So many other mmo companys have no prob finding solutions FAST.
A simple thing as making a chat filter would prevent alot of RMT.
When i was playing RIFT it took them 1 day to implement chat filters, and they kept updating by the hour.. And after a few days there were no more advertising gold sellers, by shouts or mail, or PM.
Why is it so hard for you???

Cause NCwest sits around with there thumb up the back side NOT thinking OF custmer service but of how thay can make there wallet fatter
this is how thay have always been and always will be sad to say
Oh Sace....... i like really like the hope your post has created...just like =spam='s did. At least once his credibility was compromised they removed him.

One can only hope :)

do it do it do it
Put a cap to how many chars can be logged by a single PC.(Just dual box or something like that). Who needs to log 9879879 chars, except bot trains.
wow some people just dont think there are 6 comps in my house 6x2=12 but
surelly i am the only one in the entire world with 6 comps right
wow sorry for calling people out for the lack of thinking but i just mad that i cant login to a server that i picked cause of its time zone 6yrs ago and paid for the hole time cause i was thinking that if i was gonna pay for something i wanted to get the most out of it imo people are gonna be (insert 4 letter word) cause nc puts a tax on the AH and doesent put in a package sale option and makes it to where i some how have to come up with 67 mill adena to sa my new wep i was talking to my brother in law that plays aion and that have solo instance and party instance that thay can get gear from and ++ing ur gear does not have a chance to lost the wep/armor just a rock and after u get to like +10 u cant fall lower than that and there is a que to login so u dont have to put in ur info like a crazy man to compete with a bot program and i remember this guy i worked with made a program that auto detected bots and just shut the game down hum game gaurd is worthless...
k i and done QQing for the day loging in game is pointless GF nc
Again ss lag .....
Soon as the announcement came on SS lagg again.
Maybe that is the issues since patch??
Once again delays and ss lag started on Chronos..... atm its like 25% better than the last days, but its not fixed at all...... login delay, npc delay, soulshots not activating at all half the time.... *sigh*
maybe the fail event is partially to blame for that ?
Ok I take the "25% better than before" claim back..... its now the same as the last 3 days. :(
seriously how hard is it to write a simple script that kick every lvl1~20 char with the summon out from server..
Actually I like the idea of kicking lvl 1-20 characters off the server if they have been idle for more then 15minutes.

People should vend with their mains, when afk or use AH. IMHO
Plus the amount of bots right now logging in just for the event...x.x
NC:
To me it doesnt look like u deal with any problems at all. You just talk and talk.
This is in all of your games! A lot of RMT and botters.
The only thing u need to do is go on the server and start banning bots without "investigating" the player for 6 months first.
So many other mmo companys have no prob finding solutions FAST.
A simple thing as making a chat filter would prevent alot of RMT.
When i was playing RIFT it took them 1 day to implement chat filters, and they kept updating by the hour.. And after a few days there were no more advertising gold sellers, by shouts or mail, or PM.
Why is it so hard for you???



Why has no one mentioned the fact that m any people got 2-3 months worth of fame in one weekend on Shillen two weeks ago... still has yet to be mentioned.
Dear GM Sace!
I've send petitions to NC Soft and got an answer that "Limited access to the Lineage II Game servers due to server capacity has been reported to the Lineage II Development Team. Please note that the Game Masters (GMs) are unable to provide a workaround at this time."

So you do nothing to check if some players (expecially naked bots standing in every town) using unlegit programs or not. Also you do nothing to solve Naia's problem.
I have some advices for my dear NC Soft:
1) Temporary close new accounts creation in Naia
2) Open new EU server and transfer all our chars to that server
3) Close lineage2 project and send all of us to.... Aion! :D

In fact for me la2 is already closed because im not autologin soft user, im not outgame bot user. So i cannot login, cannot play, cannot gather a group to play together.
Its not game, its mind-shacking-process.
Lets finish it in some way.

4) stop bot-farm events...
5) may be at last check naked chars in towns and ban them...

PS "Take care if NC Soft will ban you in forum you will get ban in game soon" (c) annonymus
Dear NC Soft!!! You already banned me because i cannot login and i have nothing to care about!!!! :D
my answer on that post after so many days of problems is this " AHA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA NCWEST HA -HA -HA -HA -HA "


if u want solutions on ur problems i dont know really i dont wanna talk about about u personally or anyone from NCWEST TEAM .. BUT..... is it so hard and u need to think a lot to do the following things??

with the thousand of money from l2store u did fix server capacity and increase it u are able to buy beter servers.
Kick all 1 -18 lvl toons from server every 5 min
kick every player from game after 15 min afk
kick all Aden shops from game (actioner is there for shops at least during event)
RESTART SERVER AND STOP EVENT.(99% of the server exept farmers and adenas sellers would like this to happen)
Log in NAIA (if u can and u dont have traffic problem) and BAN toons they shout for adenas from 3425343456 different sites and companys.
STOP doing events like this where people have to be online permanently (u saw even before god with the event u made for transform scrolls and vit we had almost same problem and lagg was amazing at this time)
MOVE all new acounts made on NAIA to another server who has space

GL.
1st Point is a good plausability.
2nd Point. WTF? Yeah because kicking everyone under lvl 20 every 5 min is gonna make perfect sense....now they can't get over lvl 20 because they only have 5 min to do this..
3rd Point. Kicking every player after being afk for 15 min? Hell no. What if someone had taco bell and had to make a run for the "Border"? It takes time to work that $h!+ through man. Then there are some people who step afk to get dinner made, or take care of a family member. IMO, ******ed opinion.
sace is there at least any consideration for the hundreds of suggestions made by players? login que?

im having a cramp in my hand from trying to login for the past hour
Stilll impossible to conect, since the agations gives especter of lights, tons and tons off lv1 ppl online with this. great job, u fix the item lag but now we cant login to play.
stop cry ******* idiots ... ncsoft cant do anything if nc korea dont tell to them :)
and they dont work on weekends so **** just wait for fix :)
You would pray to a god to fix a video game? Prioritize your life.

Also, not everyone here is christian... Hell, I'd venture there are even those here with no beliefs, whatsoever. I guess what I'm getting at, here, is not everyone believes in your God, and not everybody *wants* to, so kindly leave him/her/it/flying spaghetti monster/whatever *out* of it, would ya? This game has it's own gods and goddesses, let's leave it to them.

Thanks,
-Jay

you cant criticise someone for believing in something and then spout that people have a right to believe in whatever they want. he isnt forcing you to pray or believe so what right to you have to criticise him? making an attack on him just makes you look ignorant
stop cry ******* idiots ... ncsoft cant do anything if nc korea dont tell to them :)
and they dont work on weekends so **** just wait for fix :)

hey jr, go play with the other kiddos and let the real player use the forum.
Even after the "FIX" lastnight Chronos is almsot impossible to log into. SS spam dosent work while the game, some say, isnt laggin.

Emergency Maintenace FAIL.
Only thing the maintenace did was make everyone that was bored go play other games.

Im not very excited to see how TW is going to be without being able to use SS
I can't believe how much NCWest fail we've seen in the last couple weeks.

1. I can't believe they didn't predict what would happen with the Tersi event. Can not believe. It still leaves my jaw hanging open when I think about it. And it took them a week to do something about it. And even then, after the forums had been completely overrun with complaint threads! And to this day (!) we still have not heard any indication that they understand that it was 100% a design failure of the event. This means they learned nothing! NCWest is at least capable, if not likely, to create more AFK events in the future. It is obvious that NCWest is not only completely out of touch with its playerbase, but is shamefully ignorant of the basic game mechanics of L2. Inconceivable!

2. Expiration of time sensitive L2 Galleria purchases during the recent server problems (agian, caused by a design failure of the Tersi event and the hopeless incompetence of its administrators). NCWest, if you want to make your players feel personally insulted and hate you forever, there is no better way to do it*. If you don't reimburse the players who lost real dollars on your mistakes, you will basically be proclaiming to the world that you are running a racket on your website. It's unconscionable, it turns my stomach, and you should be ashamed.

3. They don't staff people on weekends. Together now: They don't staff people on weekends! This is like a movie theatre only being open from 9-5 weekdays. Sorry, if you want to go see Avatar in 3D, you have to take off from work. What about castle sieges? Territory wars? What about the fact that Saturdays and Sundays are your busiest days of the week. You want to take a couple days a week off? How about Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday? Not the freaking weekend!

4. The item lag, the fail. The server restarts, the fail. The emergency maintenance, the fail. The Magmeld transfers, the fail. It's like everything NCWest touches turns to stone. Why didn't you put a char limit on new accounts for Chronos and Naia? Why have you just now offered free server transfers from Chronos and Naia? Why do I still have to try 100 times to get into Chronos and still suffer from soulshot lag?! Call the datacenter! Call your network support! This is like IT 101 people come on!

*Actually, physically moving a server about 4,000 miles and then telling all your Euro customers to pound salt when their ping spikes and quality of service takes a dump would be a pretty good way to do it, too.
I'm just glad that I have still been able to find great groups to XP with, despite the server issues on Chronos. I even hit lvl 84 today ;)

Good luck on the fixes NC...I'm frustrated like everyone else, but it isn't really all that bad. I have found some great people on Chronos to party with, soul shots or not!
sorry, u did not fix the item lag problem, is comeback again already.
Stilll impossible to conect, since the agations gives especter of lights, tons and tons off lv1 ppl online with this. great job, u fix the item lag but now we cant login to play.
Don't worry, item lag still isn't fixed.
The whole system is broken. You encourage people to NEVER log off of a server that is constantly at cap for 3 reasons.

1) Mentoring - it is a broken system. You need to stay logged in to give you mentees buffs. They should make them like 24 hours buffs so the mentor only needs to be online once per day, as opposed to constantly on and AFK

2) Tersi's Event - you get specters for sitting AFK in town. WTF is with that? At least make the requirement that you need to be xp'ing to get them or something so there's not level 1's sitting in town all day.

3) No login queue - how ridiculous is it in 2012 to not have a login queue on your mmo? Servers being constantly full wouldn't be nearly as bad if you could just sit in a queue and at least have an IDEA of when you're going to be able to play. Instead, you have to AFK and hope you don't get disconnected so you save your spot on the server.

Unfortunately, complaining won't do anything. This MMO is a Korean port, meaning the people at NA NCSoft have no power (or clue) how to change the game. This is blatantly apparent when they can't even figure out how to stop item lag after 3 days of it being a problem. Sad story.
True dat
I've come to the conclusion that NCSoft wants us to buy adena from the spam-bots. That's the only reason I can think of that they do absolutely nothing about them.

Here's an idea/homework project for you all.

Since NCSoft obviously doesn't care at all about the things that upset us in-game, let's talk to them in the only language they understand -- money.

Every time you think about spending some cash in the NC Store, think about using that money to buy some adena from one of these spam bots, instead. Maybe if NCSoft actually sees money that was earmarked for them going elsewhere, they'll realize that there's a problem and start being proactive in fixing it.

There's no reason to fear retribution, at all... if they're not banning the bots that have been in-zone for 3-4 weeks spamming, they're not going to ban you for buying it.
I tried to open a petition in-game to ask a GM what the best site is to buy adena from, but the petition system is offline. Sad day.
Maybe it's a candle being burned at both ends. Maybe NC secretly owns the adena-selling sites and spam bots, and they use them to sell you adena and make extra money...
1. I can't believe they didn't predict what would happen with the Tersi event. Can not believe. It still leaves my jaw hanging open when I think about it. And to this day (!) we still have not heard any indication that they understand that it was 100% a design failure of the event. This means they learned nothing!


As Yidao stated, another event of the same sort ("let's-all-stay-logged-on-afk-24/7") is coming from NCkorea soon!
Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrejoice!!! :D
Maybe it's a candle being burned at both ends. Maybe NC secretly owns the adena-selling sites and spam bots, and they use them to sell you adena and make extra money...

The in game money/gold sellers are appear in almost every game and you can't disappear them.
They did disappear from the Lineage 2 in the last on year, but now they again here massively.
First of all it would help if the adena seller or trader companies would hit the real life rules too with there illegal businesses and they would get jail too if they do illegal things.

These companies aren't pay taxes after their illegal business to his country or the country where the server. So the best way would against them if we see an adena seller example from our country than we turn to the local polices and say these peoples trade illegal way with virtual items in business form and they not pay taxes after this business. By this step they hit the real life rules too so they key is here.
The in game money/gold sellers are appear in almost every game and you can't disappear them.
Wrong.

Go play other F2P games, and see how little RMT spam there is. In EVE Online, there is *zero* because they have a way - allowed in their game - to turn real world money into in-game currency. In fact, in MOST F2P model games, there is little-to-no RMT spam for this very reason; they have a means, within their rules, to turn real money into game money. RMT spammers can't make money, so they move on to other games where they can.


These companies aren't pay taxes after their illegal business to his country or the country where the server. So the best way would against them if we see an adena seller example from our country than we turn to the local polices and say these peoples trade illegal way with virtual items in business form and they not pay taxes after this business. By this step they hit the real life rules too so they key is here.
Most of these sites are run from countries with no such rules. There are entire communities in China, Chile, Brazil, the Netherlands, and other countries that have no respect/laws pertaining to such things that earn their living farming currency in MMO's. I saw a video of a village in china that makes ALL of it's money farming WoW gold and selling it to Americans.
well well , I tried to connect the entire day and without success
I launch a macro that type my psw and press enter 5x time
and repeat until it see something different (like moving mesh ect ect)
and guess what even after 4 h it still trying to connect >.>
I am here only at weekend and I still unable to play that kinda sad tbh :X
Pray for a reboot lol
Bring back Pay to Play, keep GoD. Problem solved.
Bring back Pay to Play, keep GoD. Problem solved.
Just shut the servers down and close L2, it is the same thing as bring back P2P.
We need to get rid of this event and hope Nc staff learned with this one to not repeat such thing in the future.
Hate to tell all you....the way NC sees it, the longer you stay logged on to their game...the less time you will be logged on to another. It is called a captive audience. The turning point is when do game players finally say they have had enough and go from the start of firing up their computer directly to some other game and shunning the game that has become so frustrating.
Hi NCsoft, one more time i try give some sugestions for improve the gameplay.

LAG? for all servers? yes alot ....

How To fix? easy ....

1 - Make max 2/3 dualbox per IP.
2- Min LvL player 40 for take itms from event.
3- Or make itms non tradable.

I see alot of players make dualbox to take in the Tersi's Light event alot of specter of light ....

For the last try to fix lag's .... maybe the hardly mode .... improve the Data Center Capacity ....

I have fibra connection (100 Mb/s) and with ping test against server NCsoft i take 40/60 ms ....

So .... the problem not start from my pc ....


Well, cya ....

keep fix that's lag's .... i want play Lineage without LAG's AGAIN !

~~ P.S.: NO SPAM PLS !!!
Hate to tell all you....the way NC sees it, the longer you stay logged on to their game...the less time you will be logged on to another. It is called a captive audience. The turning point is when do game players finally say they have had enough and go from the start of firing up their computer directly to some other game and shunning the game that has become so frustrating.
Captive audience only applies when they have the potential of making money off of you staying in their game. No one in their right mind will buy things from the NCSoft shop given the server conditions.
Making spectres non-tradable is a good idea.

Another one was to swap the drop tiers of a few items. Like say... change Unbind scrolls from top tier drop to high-mid tier, and making the current high-mid tier to top tier drop!

I got 5 unbind scrolls from the event so far. I got over 500m adena in lvl 5 Dyes. 2/3 of the spectres can potentially drop one. What's the result? This.

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/8648/23350288.jpg

These easily sell for 20-40m each in private stores to 17-19m at any vendor. The drop rate is ridiculously high. If this wasn't the case I'm certain there wouldn't be as many people trying to exploit the event as they are now.
omg how u do that? I droped 62 fires in the corner and I didnt recived any Dye!
I've come to the conclusion that NCSoft wants us to buy adena from the spam-bots. That's the only reason I can think of that they do absolutely nothing about them.


The same spam bot has been sending me messages for almost a month now. I've reported it dozens of times, but it's still there every day.

I know ncwest can't change the game, but it would be so easy for nceast to implement a few changes to the game.

- No global messages for players under 45. This includes shout, trade, and private messages.
- Add a /reply command that allows new players to respond to messages. They are not allowed to initiate private conversations with other players.
- Add a command /spambot that players can use against spammers. When you type /spambot asdf123, the player asdf123 gets a spambot point added to his account. When these points reach a certain threshold (lets say 100 points) that player loses global chat privs for a week, or until he contacts a gm and sorts out the issue. The gm would then be able check his chat logs to verify that he is not a bot. If it's a bot he can ban it or make the chat ban permanent. If not the gm can reinstate the character, give him a warning about spamming global chats, and then give him a "verified player" status which gives him /spambot immunity in the future. He's been verified as a legitimate player after all.
omg how u do that?

Bad event planning.
hey jr, go play with the other kiddos and let the real player use the forum.

Dude, you do realize that playing a video game where you pretend to be an 'archer' with cool '+6 armor' and shoot pixelated arrows at things is pretty childish to begin with, right? Get a grip.

Also, if you are such an 'important' player, please tell me why your app always got refused at top clans? How come after you paid to move from Bartz to Aria you still got ignored? Then you paid to change your toon name to HolyOx right? So how many Antharas or Valakas raids did you join? You ever make a key kill to let your lead finish cresting on a castle? How many Oly top 10 or hero?

Me, I did 4 Valakas (real ones, not lame terrain bug farming ), at least 10 Antharas and got hero 6 times. All this and my main is still a pretty noob, not well known toon.

So yeah, get over yourself, tool.
and i want say one more think ...make me mad, tired, and make the time in game boring is that:

i see all time server with heavy trafic (mean ALOT PLAYERS loged) ...and the think more "crazy" is ...i cant get easly a party to get exp .. on Magmeld.

Party Exp in FoG/WoA/TOI 11++ with me (EE) ....for take a balanced party i need spend 1/2h some times to take 1 BD / 1 WC / 3 DD / 1 BP .... (why 2 Healers? easly my party stay alive 4ever without lake of MP.)

Time i play: 19:00 to 04:00 (gmt +0) .... and dont forget i still talk about lag caused by dualbox, bots, afk players and ADENA sellers spam players.

NCsoft if want win some money, need take 3 GM's per server to Manual-ban that ppl. keep make Automatic Systems no will resolve nothing ...that ppl will take alot of new forms to spam.
As for the bots...all i can say is this...i used to play Diablo2 and every so often they would run a "Bullet" ( i dont know what that it exactly cuz im not that computer literate) but low and behold......POOF...no more bots...why cant L2 do this?
As i can see from this post we still having loads of issues as i not even try to log on for couple of weeks as before Christmas there was no point due to all the issues.

Based on the ideas of everyone on removing bots, shops, castle sieges, dumb *** events and lag issues instead of NCsoft just saying they looking into new projects why wasn't it looked over at the start, It seems the members of staff who work on these projects are either really dumb or the bosses don't care.

Ideas which will help like other peoples advice.

1. Shops - Stop all personal shops in all Towns, you added an auction house which is great but if you still which to give people the chance to make there own shop increase the size of the race track, remove the silly race part and also place this far away from everyone. different server if you must which people get ported too. This way people make shops but it doesnt effect others logging onto the main server to play.

2. Removing Bots - Hire people who can delete these people, yes i know you have people doing it but it takes so long from say me pming saying there someone in town shouting for cash to him going bye bye. have a Gm posted in everytown kicking these people off and then banning there IP.

3. Castle siege - We all love to siege but now what the point, one min i see the castle gate getting hit then in comes the lag and bam the castle been took over and im in town lol. Create a castle siege server!!!! people who take part in castle sieges get ported 40 mins before to the new server which in each town would have NPC's for items which will help in sieges that way people can siege without the stuiped lag issues.

4. Dumb *** events - Come on use ya brains NCsoft or really just the person who sits there thinking of silly events which cause more issues, you can create wicked events if you put your mind to it which don't involve the silly ill create loads of lvl 1's and cause issues.

5. Free Xfer - Yep great idea but give us more selection, you tell everyone from chro and naia they can move to magmeld well that server gana be full in 5 mins and back to square one. Limit the xfers and the population for each server which reduces all lag issues. if your severs can only handle 3000 players on each one don't allow 6000 and get ****** off people.

Your overall issue is NCsoft doesn't seem to think before it acts this game is an amazing game and i have played from the start, don't mess it all up now use your brains and use the advice these people here give you. we are your staff right here helping with suggestions and showing you how much we care about the game, NCsoft are not the only developers of Lineage2 its us here trying to help to make it better.

Hope it all helps somewhere

Loan
I remember while was Pay to Play system from 1 bank card you could pay after 3 boxes.
Dear NCwest you should let maximum 3 accounts from an IP address it would fair with the old users who have maybe more accounts and it wouldn't allows, that the farmer companies can enter with more accounts too at same time.
1. Shops - Stop all personal shops in all Towns, you added an auction house which is great but if you still which to give people the chance to make there own shop

Loan
This is so stupid idea. Try to sell complete set through auction. Try to manage better price with auctioneer...
Yes, as title says... Whats going on? USER FEEDBACK... ITIL?
This is so stupid idea. Try to sell complete set through auction. Try to manage better price with auctioneer...

Hi, nickname inspired from Blackadder or?....
Hi, my problem is that shortcut don't save when i close and restart the game.
While in game in can change them and use with no problem, but if i restart the game they are reset do default.
The game dont give me errors or something when i close it.
What should i do? thanks
With server capacity and all the troubles that cause?

If you think that you have ensure the best publicity for the game from full servers 24/7 i can tell you that RMT/bots/login issue has done exact the opposite.

Μαλάκες!
Yep they are planning on changing the NA timebased servers to Euro times, which may cause 40% of the people playing to quit, which should resolve alot of the problems you are having with logging on atm.

I still have my fingers crossed that they will open a new NA time based server, open to transfer to after the times all change. Only time will tell. They will prob open that one up for a vote as well.
Yes, as title says... Whats going on? USER FEEDBACK... ITIL?

Hey give them some time man, it's ONLY been 3 days since they thought they had fixed it and went for their weekend fishing trip. /sarcasm off
Today is a holiday in USA so don't expect anything from ncsoft they don't work Holidays or weekends.
Soon...
Yesterday...for sure.
Why can't we do any quests in CT? Neither of the 3 NPC's (one is is just ouside) are active or even there!
Sace wont respond. She never does anymore. NcSoft doesnt care and wont until they see profit margins drop. Until then were just considered the "Rabble Rabble".

Tech. this has been going on since the event started, 2 weeks ago, and theyve just made the situation a little worse
Can you please reset the server real fast? I'd really like to play today and it would seem that is my only hope to log in! Please!! LOL I'll log in real fast!!:cool:
Pew Pew ! How fast?
Martin Luther King Day -> Holiday -> your only hope for a restart is server hamster having a stroke
40 minutes of typing my pass over and over again sounds like problem is fixed

Kudos

PS and no i did not login after 40 mins
Yep they are planning on changing the NA timebased servers to Euro times, which may cause 40% of the people playing to quit, which should resolve alot of the problems you are having with logging on atm.

I still have my fingers crossed that they will open a new NA time based server, open to transfer to after the times all change. Only time will tell. They will prob open that one up for a vote as well.

Everytime I try to log in to Chronos server to play I get that message " Login server failed " etc. Its getting Old fast, at least have a queue time or something???

Someone shouldn't have to sit there for one hour typing in their user name and account over and over just to get in to play. its really bad, so bad it has forced me to play Star wars the old republic.....
i feel ur pain starwars is horrible
Everytime I try to log in to Chronos server to play I get that message " Login server failed " etc. Its getting Old fast, at least have a queue time or something???

Someone shouldn't have to sit there for one hour typing in their user name and account over and over just to get in to play. its really bad, so bad it has forced me to play Star wars the old republic.....
People not pickin up their drop. Thousands of adena and mats on the ground in Hot Springs. I know those are high lvl dudes who reroll or walk with their mains as mentors but... stil. Can this be a reason for a lag?
You got the problem, all wrong, last time I checked ALL SERVERS were Heavy, it's not that Chronos is full all servers are full, realistically they need a beefed up login server and a new server with free transfers as a Clan, not just single players, but whole clans, since some clans have been around for quite a while and I know I'd not want to move to a new server and try to find or create a clan from scratch.

He didnt got the problem all wrong, he got it right, all servers may be heavy , but Chronos is full most of the time , especially nights (GMT +2) when i log in to play. It cannot continue any more, the other servers are all able (at least Shilen and Bartz) But my main character is on Chronos... This must be fixed
A very small reason of the lag.
Well it dont really cause this big lag.This lot of items on the floor just make a bit delay at all.
I don't see why people have trouble logging in. No more than 10-30 login attempts are needed for me, and that only takes 5 or 6min tops.

Though server lag is still a real problem at peak times. What's being done about this, or is there anything at all?
I don't see why people have trouble logging in. No more than 10-30 login attempts are needed for me, and that only takes 5 or 6min tops.

Lineage 2: The Game That RSI Built

Seriously, trying to login is so ridiculously repetitive, that I had to assign my password to a macro key on my mouse in order to help ease the pain of logging in. Even then, it sometimes takes upwards of 100 attempts to finally get in (yes, really 100).
Rebooting the servers won't do much as the bots will beat the real players when it comes to logging in; so unless you can log in the second the server is online you might be in for a nasty surprise.

Bots do not use normal client logins, they have 3rd party programs that ping the server and when they are online they instantly log in by the hundreds in a matter of seconds.

Sad, but true.
Your macro isn't performing actions fast enough then, because it only takes 10-30 attempts for me. I get about 1 log in attempt every 2.5 seconds, manually.

Also, I wouldn't go around talking about using 3rd-party software to automate actions within the game client on the official forums. Something about that just seems off.
Items (mats & adena) are deleted automatically if left on the ground for 10 minutes, and no, it does not really cause the server to lag much.
Too many ppl and too weak servers.

Make more servers and let ppl migrate without restrictions.

L2 used to be the best game around. But it is not any more.

If you wait long enough the log-in problem will be solved by itself because ppl will stop playing the game...
Your macro isn't performing actions fast enough then, because it only takes 10-30 attempts for me. I get about 1 log in attempt every 2.5 seconds, manually.

Speed has nothing to do with it. If you end up going too fast, you risk causing the client to tell you that you are disconnected.

Also, I wouldn't go around talking about using 3rd-party software to automate actions within the game client on the official forums. Something about that just seems off.

Thanks for the concern. What I am doing is fine as per NC's guidelines (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=217291).
It is now 6:03 p.m eastern time as im posting this I have been trying since 11:00 a.m est this morning to get in to play on the Chronos Server and i still can't get in. Sace or any other community leader this is rediculous at least enable a Queue or something??? This is beyond broken!!!

I shouldn't have to spend 7 or 8+ hours to log in to play everyday, Fix this now!!!
sace is there at least any consideration for the hundreds of suggestions made by players? login que?

im having a cramp in my hand from trying to login for the past hour
your suggestions have been forwarded to the korean development team, rest assured that your tears sustain them as korea is currently going through a dry spell.
Your macro isn't performing actions fast enough then, because it only takes 10-30 attempts for me. I get about 1 log in attempt every 2.5 seconds, manually.

Also, I wouldn't go around talking about using 3rd-party software to automate actions within the game client on the official forums. Something about that just seems off.

good news everyone! it has long been established that manual macros are legal!
I haven't logged in for 6 days. All is fine with Chronos. (lol)
Speed has nothing to do with it. If you end up going too fast, you risk causing the client to tell you that you are disconnected.



Thanks for the concern. What I am doing is fine as per NC's guidelines (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=217291).

Speed has everything to do with it. When the server is full and 5-10 people are trying to get in at once, you have a better chance of obtaining a spot on the server the higher the frequency of your attempts. I do it VERY fast and have never encountered a disconnect like you said. It would have to be automated so fast that the client can't handle it.

It really no more than 3-6min to log in if done correctly. I get in under 5min almost every time, at any hour. Anything slower is doing it 'wrong.'


good news everyone! it has long been established that manual macros are legal!

Oh and my bad. I misread deathspawns post and had imagined the entire login sequence was on repeat with a toggle key. Would that sort of automation, or any automation, be legal if it was an attended macro? I wasn't able to get that from the guidelines that was linked. Sure I could write a script that levels my character for me through normal mouse/keyboard combinations. Would that violate any rules if I was at the computer attending the macro throughout the entire process?
Quoting from your official Facebook page.

"We will give more details about compensation for all affected players later this week, but our priority at this time is making sure a proper fix is applied as soon as possible."


Any information about the compensation? Did the mistake to buy a 7 day Rune of XP during the 1st week of the event and was wasted due to log in issue. Any update on that?

Other than that glad to see you remove the event and hope that this event became a lesson for the NCWest team.
I have been trying at sporadic times over the last 3 days and EVERY single server is full I haven't even spent one minute of game time in the game, haven't even made it to the character creator yet...every time I log in it says all servers are heavy...
my A grade items are about to expire and i still need 11 levels to reach 76 and get my free Sgrade items.. i dnt have a mentor and logging in is a difficult quest already... i tried logging in for an hour but to no avail.. i always get disconnected.. :mad:
Chanel 1. Chanel 2. Whenever the server is full you'll be transfered into a new server, this server wont have CH, no sieges, no olympiads no raidbosses no instances, no character creation, no trades, no auction.

You'll be placed into a quee list and when there's a spot in real server you'll have the chance to transfer, (like the message when you accept party replacement.)

In my opinion, the people who wants to grind, or do quests, will prefer this server as it is almost empty, and the ppl who want pvp and participate in events will prefer getting into the real one.

You can't choose to get into this server, you'll only get in when you log and server is full, if you are disconected you wont login in this server unless server still full.

If the population of the real server goes down and there´s room for all the ppl in second server a mesage will appear and in 5 minutes all the characters will be tranfered.

Like 2 global channels.
Chronos (Full)
Chronos Slave (Light)
Seems NCs solution to the problems is to wait till players get fed up by it and quit game ... Last time NC did that they left us with 2 nearly dead servers ... :rolleyes:
So i decided to start L2 again !.
And since i had a 42lvl Dark avenger on Chronos realm, i decided to play there by starting a new character ( Da =tank wanna roll dps :P)
.Now.. i would not like to start on another realm since my DA got plenty of items,and money.
But.. it seems i have a little problem.
i cannot connect due to high traffic.. -.-..
Can u plz logg ur botz off so real players can start playing ?
Best regards,
John.
I hope this "compensation" doesn't come at the time I'm travelling.
Plx NCSoft consider the idea of making a compensation that ppl can use after a while, like giving 1 rune of exp for day that can be accumulated and used whenever we wish. =x
This is just sad, NC team with a internacional world range, ppl from all parts of the planet know Nc, and even that way, this things happens like we're playing a Private server without any suport...

I really hope they fix it and make every play proud, cause now, this thing is worst than private servers. :/
I hope this "compensation" doesn't come at the time I'm travelling.
Plx NCSoft consider the idea of making a compensation that ppl can use after a while, like giving 1 rune of exp for day that can be accumulated and used whenever we wish. =x
Better :) 1 rune for every disconnect due high server traffic :)
I hope this "compensation" doesn't come at the time I'm travelling.
Plx NCSoft consider the idea of making a compensation that ppl can use after a while, like giving 1 rune of exp for day that can be accumulated and used whenever we wish. =x

They wont give any xp runes. I got that answer from some diff GMs in mails
Chronos down.... anyone see advice about server shutdown?
I think it just crashed...i didnt see any announcements.
Chronos back up
Chronos back up
Yaay...for how long
Chanel 1. Chanel 2. Whenever the server is full you'll be transfered into a new server, this server wont have CH, no sieges, no olympiads no raidbosses no instances, no character creation, no trades, no auction.


No instances... GF Kamaloka for new toon...
No raidbosses... GF high lvl poor
No ClanHall... GF when you die from mob lol

chanel 1 normal server (full)
Chanel 2 slaves (full) <--- some player and bots
Chanel 3 slaves (full) bots only
Chanel 4 slaves (full) bots... you see? more space more bots...


stop ppl from botting and all server will be light/normal
Chronos back up

YAAAAAY FINALLY WE CAN PLAY THE REAL L2!!! OH wait...
ss not working and the server's are very lag =(((((((((((
Just after the server are up again has no lag, no problems, but in few minutes and becomes heavy again and return lags ... pls prevent bot from log
i try to log in to chronos and i can't...i press ok and it stays on this screen...chronos is light..i can log in to other server but not on chronos..WTF IS HAPPENING??
when its light and u cant login its cause the GMs are having fun with it and want to be alone
It's lag, your click is taking it's time to connect to the server...jeez why don't people have patience..
You are the lonely housewife, Chronos is like the pool and NCsoft is like Pablo the hot Mexican poolguy...

Instead of cleaning / maintaining the pool, Pablo rather spends his time screwing you... ;)
SS NOT WORKING AGAIN. 30 SECONDS DELAYED.
But thats ok, they will compensate it with a crappy idea. I suggest we get 30 luxury cocktail.
Actually I noticed everytime there's a lengthy announcement in game... our shots lag.

Go figure.
Sace,,, Lag is back worse than ever. Just in time for the thousands of weekend players.

Boy you guys better do something fast . Is this now 2 weeks of messed up servers.?

Gona be a lot of happy campers this week end. Good Luck . All this bad service is going to hit Facebook and Twitter in a bad way,.. Hope you get it fixed.. Bad news travels fast.
its been super laggy on bartz today, soulshot going off one in ten swings...if that

but not only that, hit level 40 went to the dimensional merchant and took me well over 5 minutes of clicking to retrieve the items....

also earlier today when I hit 30 and got my awakening awards I recieved the Weapon Pack B-grade ... so even its confused! :eek:
Hi GM, is there something wrong with the website http://truly-free.lineage2.com/path ??

I logged in to claim the 30 days items and it says that I have no characters in this account. This char was made yesterday and is currently lvl 41. Also, some of my friends can not see me (this particular char) in game.



Just found out that my characters somehow got put in Chronos instead of Bartz. When I log in and select Chronos, I see my characters there .... but I'm playing in Bartz ...
Well, Chronos in unplayable ATM. ss lag and npc lag....
And i thinck that the staff entered in free week-end so adio's to any solve of this. It's about 2 week's since this issue's bother me....this isn't anymore Oficial L2 server's, they become PRIVATE one's.
So GL playing on this private server's, i go to find another MMO, whose staff deal whit it.
Same with Bartz SS lags...
I can't even log IN to chronos..ffs
Seemed ok yesterday, but today there is big lag right from the start and with SS. Basically the game is still unplayable. The only improvement is that you can log on, although there isn't really any point. perhaps next maintenance they will get this figured out. Meanwhile, time sensitive equipment is running down.
Will soulshots ever be fixed or is NCsoft going for the retro C1 feel when no one used shots? After almost 3 weeks this is getting boring.
It'll be fixed soon i've heard.
still ss-lag on chronos .. still money shouts on chronos .. but ofc no more newbie questions in TI ^^
... Basically the game is still unplayable. The only improvement is that you can log on...
... Meanwhile, time sensitive equipment is running down.,,
Players not buying items in NCstore... I think NCsoft will start doing something soon :-)
We have been monitoring and investigating the cause of the server latency issues. We're doing our best right now to come up with a resolution. I'll let you know when I have more information to post regarding this issue.
ehh again ... sss lags movement lags and .... hvy traffic again at least on naia ... 15 minutes to log in where is progress u anounce? 100+ trys is a bit much .....
u still expect players to buy ncoins? wake up
We have been monitoring and investigating the cause of the server latency issues. We're doing our best right now to come up with a resolution. I'll let you know when I have more information to post regarding this issue.

Dunno... maybe ...hum ban the 3k bots per server ? :mad:
We have been monitoring and investigating the cause of the server latency issues. We're doing our best right now to come up with a resolution. I'll let you know when I have more information to post regarding this issue.

Nice try dude.

Just admit you guys have no clue what your doing and i honestly would be less angry.

You cant keep saying your "Trying" to fix somthing for 3 weeks...People build things 10x more complex then an l2 server in that amount of time.
We have been monitoring and investigating the cause of the server latency issues. We're doing our best right now to come up with a resolution.

Maybe it's time to drastically upgrade your facilities?

Innova did so, when right after the launch of GoD they found out their servers appeared incapable of running the game anymore (30-seconds lag on everything).
People run private l2j servers better then NCsoft runs these offical servers, and they run it from there house half the time.

Should be no need to upgrade =/ Not like the population is 100000. Its 5/6k capped correct?
Weeks without SS working properly. Nice work NCSoft.

And now we have a weekend, and we know they will only "work" on that issue on monday. But I have my doubt if they really do something or just wait for an email from korea with a .rar file with the fix.
I just uninstalled LII from my ssd. Good riddance!!
Don't talk about NcSoft, is now they's fault. Is NcWest fault that this thing's still happen. Take an example from your colleagues overseas, they really care about player's and give them what they need....

Fellow players,

Innova is opening Bot - Hunting Season RIGHT NOW!

We are glad to announce that Innova starts the Anti-Bot campaign from now on! We start a Bot-Hunting Competition to find the best bot-slayers ever! The Top 10 hunters detecting most bots who turn out to be real ones get super prizes which they would be able to choose THEMSELVES from the list noted later on!

Let your sense of smell guide you. If you think you tracked a bot you need to click the Bot Report Button inGame and the countdown is triggered!

Every Friday we will post a list of Top 20 hunters of the week as well as the number of the banned bots.
Make sure you hit the right target and never miss!

Guy of Gisborne: C'mon, **** you! There're only three of them!
Soldier: It's not the men we fear, sir. It's the evil spirits.
(from the Robin Hood movie)

Let the hunt begin!


NB: The hunting season starts on the 20th of January 2012 and ends on the 20th of February 2012 at midnight.
Think its about time to try a new game now. Im tired of being online wasting my time to wait for a fix. Ill do last try and transfer from Chronos to Magmeld, then im outta here... Gl waiting for the fix guys, hope it works out to u all.
Don't talk about NcSoft, is now they's fault. Is NcWest fault that this thing's still happen. Take an example from your colleagues overseas, they really care about player's and give them what they need....

Fellow players,

Innova is opening Bot - Hunting Season RIGHT NOW!

We are glad to announce that Innova starts the Anti-Bot campaign from now on! We start a Bot-Hunting Competition to find the best bot-slayers ever! The Top 10 hunters detecting most bots who turn out to be real ones get super prizes which they would be able to choose THEMSELVES from the list noted later on!

Let your sense of smell guide you. If you think you tracked a bot you need to click the Bot Report Button inGame and the countdown is triggered!

Every Friday we will post a list of Top 20 hunters of the week as well as the number of the banned bots.
Make sure you hit the right target and never miss!

Guy of Gisborne: C'mon, **** you! There're only three of them!
Soldier: It's not the men we fear, sir. It's the evil spirits.
(from the Robin Hood movie)

Let the hunt begin!


NB: The hunting season starts on the 20th of January 2012 and ends on the 20th of February 2012 at midnight.

I am really jealous...seriously!
Bots are taking over your servers ncsoft, and you can't do anything to stop it, sadly.
Honestly, this lag issue needs to be fixed sooner than later. Add hardware, software fixes, w/e, but this is unacceptable. Shots still lag every day, lag spikes tonight in the middle of Oly fights are also epic. People have already indicated the issue happens when the server goes above a certain # of ppl logged in and stays ****** until it drops back down. Buying runes and other items is also pointless if no one can xp effectively.
We have been monitoring and investigating the cause of the server latency issues. We're doing our best right now to come up with a resolution. I'll let you know when I have more information to post regarding this issue.

Maybe you guys need to move from "truly free" to "free after you buy the game" because that will cut half of this crap out and ppl can still play without a subscription afterwards. The patience over this lag issue is really starting to run low for just about everyone.
If you don't fix your servers by next maintenance window - you can rest assured your business model in North America is finished.

Final nail in coffin.
I was looking forward to L3. I don't think I will even try it after this mess. Yesterday was the worst game play I have ever had in any MMO. I did make it to 85 with sheer determination. Early morning game play was fine ,but by noon eastern the SS lag started and got worse as time went on. I have never heard so many people complain .Was server wide. And Bots everywhere OMG. I will work free if you let me be a Bot GM. I will go around the server and destroy them all. I am serious. Just take the servers down and fix the problem. If you can.
Keep them down for a day or two if you have to. All and all, I still want to play L2. Please fix this mess!!
Naia is again full and its not even the prime time

are u gona ban some f**** bots finaly so we can play ffs
Remove all private shoppers and improved Auction House!!!!!!:eek::eek:
Naia is always full, it's becoming a joke.

Anyone considering moving over to Magmeld?
People run private l2j servers better then NCsoft runs these offical servers, and they run it from there house half the time.

Should be no need to upgrade =/ Not like the population is 100000. Its 5/6k capped correct?

+1 I guess it's time for NCSocks to take a page from their book. Granted they are not bombarded by bots but then again, they do ban those who bot. No lag, no disconnection. Best vacation ever.
Well guys i am not considering to go magmeld but to go again to private servers..forget it official is the most epic fail...ncsoft dont give a **** about servers they just opened them and let them run.....
Incompetence is your business culture?


PS I remember many players who were saying that the event was the root of evil? Now?
Incompetence is your business culture?


PS I remember many players who were saying that the event was the root of evil? Now?


all those who use bots and are 94+ have 1 bot grp to make adena and make RMT since the servers are bot free
farmer sites lvling tons of new toons to lvl20 so they can spam
It cant be that im wasted now more than 2 hours trying to log in.
Today is TW and i am worried about to get loged in till it starts...
Pls bann those stupid bots faster and do something with the shop system. As mentioned bevor improve the auction house make it free of charge and remove all shops! Or make another GMT +1 Server =/
yes it full all the time i have free time to play it sucks:mad::mad::mad:
unless they stop new character creation in Naia the situation won't get better. The agathion bots just got replaced by an endless stream of dorfs (for some reason) leveling to 20 to do RMT shouts
Remove all private shoppers and improved Auction House!!!!!!:eek::eek:

+1 low the % taken so all players will use auction house
remove all private shoppers and improved auction house!!!!!!:eek::eek:


100+++
+100000000 Private shops MUST be removed! Is not working! I have free time 2 hours and I can't login! Saturday afternoon looool! IT'S A BAD JOKE.
Private shops will not get removed, NCKorea won't change the game cause a bunch of random freeloaders can't login to a server.

How about you newbies go roll to a different server? Magmeld/Bartz have plenty of slots
@ZuFF The most stupid answer ever seen in my life.
it's a pretty fair answer tbh, considering you are demanding they change the game to give you 500 extra slots in Naia. If you 're that desperate to play go play a different server
Well, in my opinion problems with lag and difficulties with loging in could be minimized if NC simply eliminated Private Shops and eliminated the cost of the auction houses. This way ppl wouldnt leave their characters loged in all day long, while they were away. Walking through cities like Aden really sucks. Theres nowhere to step on! PPl should just be allowed to sell everything through the auction house, with no costs. There would be less ppl logged in, less lag, more room to walk in towns, and no one would waste electricity leaving their PCs loged in just to run a private shop (OUR PLANET THANKS YOU). Why not test with an event - a month of free sales through Auction Houses for everyone?
it's a pretty fair answer tbh, considering you are demanding they change the game to give you 500 extra slots in Naia. If you 're that desperate to play go play a different server

Just to let you know.

1. I am European, I want European time for sieges.
2. I like my clan.
3. I like my friends.
4. I did not demand. I voted +1 for removing the private shops.

That's why your answer was a fool one. :D
and 5. Why to go away if there are too many bots. LOL.
Just to let you know.

1. I am European, I want European time for sieges.
2. I like my clan.
3. I like my friends.
4. I did not demand. I voted +1 for removing the private shops.

That's why your answer was a fool one. :D
and 5. Why to go away if there are too many bots. LOL.

perhaps you are not aware of the server siege times poll? Pretty much all the servers except Bartz will end up Euro ->http://www.lineage2.com/en/news/events/vote-on-siege-times.php

Beyond that would you +1 they disconnect oh I dont know, your mentor who's also sitting afk doing nothing? Of course not.
We have been monitoring and investigating the cause of the server latency issues. We're doing our best right now to come up with a resolution. I'll let you know when I have more information to post regarding this issue.

And now is weekend (again) and you dont give a **** right?
And now is weekend (again) and you dont give a **** right?

They are on a fishing trip, leave a message after the beep.
posted this on the Naia server overpopulation issue but I guess the points also apply to other servers so..


There are 4 reasons for this issue, well 5 but NC would wish it would be true there are really 6+k actual live players which isn't the case as we all know so I'll just list the 4 obvious ones.

1. Mentee system, to benefit from it be that the mentor account is basically logged in 24/7.
- make it so that it also work without the mentor being logged in or fix the other 3 issues.

2. afk shops as not everything can be sold in AH like full armor sets as well the fee charged is to high
- implement the fixes faster that Korea has released on this by lowering the fee significantly.

3. RMT farmers are non stop lvling chars to 20+ for the few millions they make that way, just watch TI & Gludio closely for a week to see the pattern.
- simplest solution IP ban and check for regions as I know for a fact you guys used to auto ban all accounts logged in from China in the past so do it again, at the very least those reappearing lvl1~40 accounts from same IP's.

4. Increased botting, there's no visibility of GM activity so botting has become rampant once more, even with awaken chars as ppl try to hit 90+ asap.
- as there are only a few spots where 86+ chars can bot how hard is it to sweep them daily for bots, Swamp Fairies Harnak SoA GoG Orbis.. Swamp & Fairies is where most bots can be found so ban awaken chars and announce it so ppl will stop think it's normal to do so just cause they could on their freeshard/private server in the past.

also add on top of that: block new account creation on Naia server until the situation stabilized and/or add introduction of premium accounts so players that adds to NC's bottom line can actually play this game.
There are 4 reasons for this issue, well 5 but NC would wish it would be true there are really 6+k actual live players which isn't the case as we all know so I'll just list the 4 obvious ones.

1. Mentee system, to benefit from it be that the mentor account is basically logged in 24/7.
- make it so that it also work without the mentor being logged in or fix the other 3 issues.

2. afk shops as not everything can be sold in AH like full armor sets as well the fee charged is to high
- implement the fixes faster that Korea has released on this by lowering the fee significantly.

3. RMT farmers are non stop lvling chars to 20+ for the few millions they make that way, just watch TI & Gludio closely for a week to see the pattern.
- simplest solution IP ban and check for regions as I know for a fact you guys used to auto ban all accounts logged in from China in the past so do it again, at the very least those reappearing lvl1~40 accounts from same IP's.

4. Increased botting, there's no visibility of GM activity so botting has become rampant once more, even with awaken chars as ppl try to hit 90+ asap.
- as there are only a few spots where 86+ chars can bot how hard is it to sweep them daily for bots, Swamp Fairies Harnak SoA GoG Orbis.. Swamp & Fairies is where most bots can be found so ban awaken chars and announce it so ppl will stop think it's normal to do so just cause they could on their freeshard/private server in the past.

also add on top of that: block new account creation on Naia server until the situation stabilized and/or add introduction of premium accounts so players that adds to NC's bottom line can actually play this game.
We have been monitoring and investigating the cause of the server latency issues. We're doing our best right now to come up with a resolution. I'll let you know when I have more information to post regarding this issue.


The problem is: you can't fix it. If you could you would have fixed it one week ago. The question is: if you can't fix that, who else can? You could at least give us some explanation and some decent compensation not that crappy one.
fu this is crap. how im gonna attend TW/Sieges when NCcrap is not capable to make server accessible to normal players instead of AFKers anb Bots....

Yh i know bots can play since they are buying destiny packs....
Remove all private shoppers and improved Auction House!!!!!!:eek::eek:


http://naia.kaifas.lt/
NAIA players: 5992/6038 (689 shops)


I don't think shops are the main issue here, the bots and the current mentor system are, people are forced to stay logged in 24/7 to enjoy the benefits of the mentor system.
Its terrible lags in chronos now.

Few hours SS almost dont work

Maybe cheak you network device - maybe its hardware problem.

After down server today - no lags - low ppl - low traffic

Now alot all - and server almost die.
why you ppl lose your time to explain bugs and bots to some one who dont care about this did u see some Gm to make something about this ****
i see over 2 weeks one idiot gust stay and drop adena in gludio near gk and no Gm to ban this ****** other guy stay in talking island and put his pet to hit wh npc all week becouse of ******s like this many regular ppl cant login and GM sux verry hard big D!GS cuz they are usseless and brainles kids ...
Huge SS lag on Bartz.

Once again, I use xp rune and can't xp
Once again, I use Luxury cocktails and waste 3 because nothing happens
Once again, I die because I can't kill mobs with no Blessed soulshots
Once again, I can't use a BSOE to **** before I die.

This has been going on for 2 weeks

For 2 Friggin weeks, game have been totally impossible to play decently.

What do we get ?
5 hour xp rune, 5 luxury cocktails ( I wasted like 10 because of lag ) and some BS week "fun" crap noone care about.

Really NC soft ? REALLY ?

I have 3 hours left on my 5 hours xp rune, but I can't xp.

Petitions unaviable, No gm ever online, who will give me my wasted items back ?
also add on top of that: block new account creation on Naia server until the situation stabilized and/or add introduction of premium accounts so players that adds to NC's bottom line can actually play this game.

yeah, premium accounts will guarantee to bots a spot on server. They have same problem like us right now, they get dc and so on... The solution is to ban them.
I'm 99% sure, that a lot of players saw that noone is taking any action against boting and they've made a party of bots to farm for them.

Well, sooner or later, servers will have 80% bots and 20% players, and noone will complain on forums... because bots never complain :)
Petitions unaviable, No gm ever online, who will give me my wasted items back ?

They dont care. They are hoping u will buy more xp runes.
I'm playing on Chronos.

Beside SS lag, Npc lag, Environment lag, this is so much lag that i'm in village since 5 min, and when i try to open mailbox it say "You cannot receive or send mail whit attached items in NON-PEACE zone regions."

Haha, they :confused:fixed:confused: it.
Fix chronos lag plz.
Fix chronos lag plz.

We beg youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
This is just ********!

Take away the Mentor online requirements and remove the private stores....

Then set up a que system and then kick players that have been inactive for 10min or so...

Lineage 2 as a game: Good
NCsoft as a administrator/developer: Tragic
NCsoft should NOT promote afk users. Its just wrong after the game become f2p. It was wrong too befor imo but there wasnt full servers problems.

If i could not loggin because it has 6k active players inside its one think, but we all know theres a huge numbers of afk users.

- mentors
- mentees
- ppl that want to keep a reserved slot to play later
- and ofc, bots.

They could open again "Teon" (EU time) and transfer all my chars to there. :)

I made a new char in Bartz to entertain myself while i cant logg in NAIA, its just me or theres a huge delay in SS, npc chat, buy/sell, etc? didnt see any delay in combat, so i bealive its not a "normal lag".
To NCWest...here's some of the issues you NEED to get fixed

1. Get a better IT Department. Apparently you're current group of trained monkey's have not been trained proper. Hire the Trained Gorilla's or even better, people who actually graduated with a diploma that shows they know that the hell they are doing.

2. Soul Shots, Spirit Shots, Pots all lag like crazy...1 in 10 or 1 in 20 actually work, even though the screensometimes shows them working proper, the count down on them being used up also is not matching.

3. Just one of the skills I noticed yesterday, Steal Essence, from the OverLord's skill list suddenly is not working like it was. Before it used to steal hp and rejuvinate your mp at same time. I never worried about running out of MP while dealing with mobs. Its one of the bonuses for the OL that I loved, now at lvl 64, I burn through mp faster than I did on my SpellHowler. WTF is up with this?

4. Petitions in game and in Game GM's. Every mmorpg I've played has the availability to contact someone in game immediately in case of any real problems, usually with that person having direct contact to someone who can actually fix the problem. Yes, you have Sace and a couple other community managers who post on forums occasionally on weekends, but you still have noone who can fix the problem. Get one of your people who can speak Korean to call the developers, have them make an account, log onto your server and have them actually see the crap thats broken. MAYBE, just MAYBE THEN you'll actually be able to get a proper fix.

Every weekend, something massive goes wrong with your servers, time sensitive items get wasted and players get f***ed out of these time sensitive items.

Yes, alot of people love the fact that a great game went F2P, I am one of them, but what you are severely lacking now is obvious. People who know how to do their jobs right and customer service. I've worked over 14 years dealing with customer seffvice and now being aa Building Manager of an apartment building, I can say that if I ran my buildings the way you guys allow this game to be run, I'd be fired. You can't leave stuff broken for extensive periods and blow the proverbial smoke up your players arses. We know BS when we see it and telling us every day or every other day "We're looking into the problem to get it fixed" or "we're testing our fixes first" is nothing more than a stall tactic. GET ER' DONE!
They could open again "Teon" (EU time) and transfer all my chars to there. :)

I made a new char in Bartz to entertain myself while i cant logg in NAIA, its just me or theres a huge delay in SS, npc chat, buy/sell, etc? didnt see any delay in combat, so i bealive its not a "normal lag".


or better one we could leave this ******* server naia and go to privates...12 days trying from morning to log and i get in at 12 oclock AT NIGHT....if those are gms i do it better even if i dont know hot to fix server...close this **** server we got bored to wait for log all day...next event will be...y loged in?nice y earn 10lvls of xp
To NCWest...here's some of the issues you NEED to get fixed

1. Get a better IT Department. Apparently you're current group of trained monkey's have not been trained proper. Hire the Trained Gorilla's or even better, people who actually graduated with a diploma that shows they know that the hell they are doing.

2. Soul Shots, Spirit Shots, Pots all lag like crazy...1 in 10 or 1 in 20 actually work, even though the screensometimes shows them working proper, the count down on them being used up also is not matching.

3. Just one of the skills I noticed yesterday, Steal Essence, from the OverLord's skill list suddenly is not working like it was. Before it used to steal hp and rejuvinate your mp at same time. I never worried about running out of MP while dealing with mobs. Its one of the bonuses for the OL that I loved, now at lvl 64, I burn through mp faster than I did on my SpellHowler. WTF is up with this?

4. Petitions in game and in Game GM's. Every mmorpg I've played has the availability to contact someone in game immediately in case of any real problems, usually with that person having direct contact to someone who can actually fix the problem. Yes, you have Sace and a couple other community managers who post on forums occasionally on weekends, but you still have noone who can fix the problem. Get one of your people who can speak Korean to call the developers, have them make an account, log onto your server and have them actually see the crap thats broken. MAYBE, just MAYBE THEN you'll actually be able to get a proper fix.

Every weekend, something massive goes wrong with your servers, time sensitive items get wasted and players get f***ed out of these time sensitive items.

Yes, alot of people love the fact that a great game went F2P, I am one of them, but what you are severely lacking now is obvious. People who know how to do their jobs right and customer service. I've worked over 14 years dealing with customer seffvice and now being aa Building Manager of an apartment building, I can say that if I ran my buildings the way you guys allow this game to be run, I'd be fired. You can't leave stuff broken for extensive periods and blow the proverbial smoke up your players arses. We know BS when we see it and telling us every day or every other day "We're looking into the problem to get it fixed" or "we're testing our fixes first" is nothing more than a stall tactic. GET ER' DONE!

Like red collor line say, is week-end mate, noone from staff online or here :D:D:D so, let's enjoy toghether the (Go)Destruction of L2. Like his name,
In the open market... many ppl would have been already fired.


The best mmorpg developed.... in wrong hands :(
IMO what's needed, and actually possible (unlike bot control etc.) is a new EU server. In the begging innova was supposed to handle european players, but I hear they failed miserably, so more and more people are moving to NC servers. Oh wait, not serverS, but a server - Naia.
Sure, there are bots, sure, the mentor system sux, but there is no way anyone's gonna do anything about it. A new EU server could help.
And before all the "omfg im so wise" idiots start flaming - yes, it will be full of bots too, filled with afk ppl too, spammed with rmt too, but I bet it still would take some pressure away from Naia.
this really makes it unbearable to play
people are QUITTING because they can't play like this
it's sad that this was a known issue, innova had it too and took two weeks to fix, should be piece of cake to fix it now.

and not a word from ncsoft? It's really a shame, what a waste of a great game
I played in better privates than retail's current status
It is unfortunate that the game is broken. When the servers were jammed a few weeks ago and it took 50 or more tries to log on the game still worked, at least until you were booted. Now it doesn't work; something has been broken. It clearly goes beyond the bots (saw a bunch today in Outlaw Forest,, that were clones of what appeared to be a legit player. They were all identical and had the same identical name) and full servers. Unless you are playing with a mystic character, the game is not playable and not just Chronos but also Bartz, where the character limit has been raised from 2 to 7, which surely can't be helping.
We have been monitoring and investigating the cause of the server latency issues. We're doing our best right now to come up with a resolution. I'll let you know when I have more information to post regarding this issue.

Can't fix shots lags then decrease max server population to 5000 players. shots start lag when online reach 5k players and more. monitor servers and kick toons who inactive 1 hour or more except private shops cuz 400-500 shops will not change anything when 6k+ ppls on. block accounts creation for servers were prime time population over 5k.
Can't fix shots lags then decrease max server population to 5000 players. shots start lag when online reach 5k players and more. monitor servers and kick toons who inactive 1 hour or more except private shops cuz 400-500 shops will not change anything when 6k+ ppls on. block accounts creation for servers were prime time population over 5k.

This is the best idea that i ever seen since this issues appear. Why u keeped it for u?

If the maximum limit of populatin will be decreased, the server dont reach its limit and the player's are thinking twice if to log the bot or the real toon.

BUT, there is a but......who to apply this genuine idea? Staff is in weekend vacation :/
Maybe You can make reboot every 6 hour - its keep server free and low lags
reboot every 6hours will work perfect instead kicking inactive toons, so all who logged for afk will stay off and total population will be under critical amount.
yayyyy chronos is down! lol
yayyyy chronos is down! lol

Nothing new there.....
yayyyy chronos is down! lol

Do I detect a wee bit of sarcasm? :rolleyes:
well actually yes!! I just started today. Been playing to a lot of prive servers and i thought id go to official cause you know..I thought the support would be better and i would play a lag free never crashing down game..But in my 2 hour experience i think it would be better if went back to private servers.lol
so how long do these server brake downs last usually?
yayyyy chronos is down! lol

I think there is a revolt!!!:D:D:D
so how long do these server brake downs last usually?

All depends. This didn't happen until it went F2P.
How many emergency maintenance sessions is enough to turn the lightbulb on to realize it can't be fixed?
unless they stop new character creation in Naia the situation won't get better. The agathion bots just got replaced by an endless stream of dorfs (for some reason) leveling to 20 to do RMT shouts

+1




all those who use bots and are 94+ have 1 bot grp to make adena and make RMT since the servers are bot free
farmer sites lvling tons of new toons to lvl20 so they can spam


you got bad infos, its china and japans farming the adena, if you took the time to research, but they not making 500 lvl20 char to abuse chat, they doing it to farm the instant adena its like 5kk 7x chars or some thing, then start again

also add on top of that: block new account creation on Naia server until the situation stabilized and/or add introduction of premium accounts so players that adds to NC's bottom line can actually play this game.

+1 they would of done this on naia/chronos weeks ago to control the flow of new players making chrono/naia even more over loaded

http://naia.kaifas.lt/
NAIA players: 5992/6038 (689 shops)


I don't think shops are the main issue here, the bots and the current mentor system are, people are forced to stay logged in 24/7 to enjoy the benefits of the mentor system.

Teon back in the day had over 1k shops in Giran, its never been a problem. but i admit stacked with the mentor/mentee's staying logged is now like 2-3k AFK people. Sadly they still letting more and more new people adding to the already overloaded Naia/Chronos.

NC dont care, they just want max USD for new years bonus, i give a PRO anti mass account making idea to sace in pm, reply was post it in the Suggestion forum. (so it can be ignored with the rest)
Its time for them to upgrade the server or just boot inactive toons. Have a GM go town to town every hour and just ban IP's to all the adena spammers.

Its also getting old seeing all the bots running around GoG, Fairy and Swamps.

I was thinking of linking all the bot programs that I know of so they can find a way to stop it.
For server uptimes lasting longer that four hours, please seek medical attention immediately.
i believe it's all ncsofts issue they didn't let one event finish before they started their second event causeing the crazy lag and shots issue why can't they just reset everything back 3 weeks to when the issues weren't there and why do they have adena sellers in game and not banning those accts instead of selling adena through the L2 store theirselves instead of all the dissapear in 7 day lag causeing crap
0 respect. Not even template responses-informations posted during weekends.

Even public servants in Greece are more efficient than you guys...
230 ppls log more on chronos and can say bb shots
You guys don't get it! The GMs want to ban all the bots and fix all the pending issues , it's just that they can't ........login :)
You guys don't get it! The GMs want to ban all the bots and fix all the pending issues , it's just that they can't ........login :)
true that :rolleyes::rolleyes:

who want to participate in sieges today log in from now!!!

to the rest good luck,in 2 hours from now the server will be full again,cheers:cool:
Really i feel very tire trying loguin in Naia.Have you think to extend capacity for log i server or put other servitor better I unknow aboout this informatic tecnian part but if have Money just Do it.
So no fame/tw badges this week for 50% Naia players just cuz they couldnt log in. Nice. I wonder when the siege-related crying starts.
wtb limit 5accounts / IP
the only thing that could help solve the problem is limit l2 windows count to 2 or 1. i see many ppl boxing 3,4,5 chars. or make boxing premium payed feature. it would be free to play for anyone playing himself
Really i feel very tire trying loguin in Naia.Have you think to extend capacity for log i server or put other servitor better I unknow aboout this informatic tecnian part but if have Money just Do it.
Had to read this a few times before I understood it.

They cannot increase the server capacity as 6000 is the safe limit, and I doubt they will open another server as they cannot seem to fix the ones they have now.
Had to read this a few times before I understood it.

They cannot increase the server capacity as 6000 is the safe limit, and I doubt they will open another server as they cannot seem to fix the ones they have now.

I would say it is the designed limit but in reality anything above 4 - 4.5k and the server starts freaking out .. look at the situation with soulshots and npc lag now.
One more thing... chronos down again! :eek::eek::eek:
shots totally not needed tolvl
So much emo banter.

For those players who bought the 7 hour runes before the server started functioning like crap i agree that they should be refunded or replaced, for the rest who used or bought them after that, you cant blame ncsoft for your lack of brian cells.

Ive seen people complain that they are wasting the 1 hour xp runes saying omg i want a refund. If you use them while you know the server is not working properly, then thats your fault for neglecting to reason when you decided to use them.

There are limitations as to what Ncsoft NA can do and not do, limitations the russian servers for example dont have, if you dont like it, go play over there.

The only compensation i want is the server to be fixed.
I'm just mentioning this in case anyone is interested. It's not like we wanna do double damage to mobs and stuff, especially since we bough XP runes.
We sent our infected people from chronos with ss lag disease. Get used to it, muhahaha!
4k players on magmeld, the server is not used to so many players logged.
Small server can't take the preasure, needs hardware upgrade.
Come on, people! Buy MORE runes!
Enjoy the game as it's getting better by the day!
Truly free, as fun as it has never been before!
http://1nsk.ru/data/blog/images/3/fq8g62qfma.jpg

...And buy some more runes!
Don't forget to visit L2store every few minutes!
Support NCsoft's continuous struggle to improve the game!
NCsoft needs your money NOW!

Don't you know they are working diligently to resolve the server issues, they're working hard, working without rest, especially on weekends!
:D
We must stop playing Lineage2? is a question because it is not possible to log virtually NEVER! Some times from 10 pm (gmt) until 2 am (gmt). Please find a solution
Obama could fix it!

Or let call in Chuck Norris!
I think gnawing on a cactus would be more productive at this point
Hello
First, I apologize for my English ....
I ask if you can still totally abandons the server Naia situation, any day at any time you try to log servers are always always ALWAYS full ....
Find a solution to this situation really is becoming unplayable because the server under these conditions ...
Thanks, see you soon
Chronos had just a crash for like 15 mins and i dunno why!!

I wish we had one too so that the server would be cleaned
out of the garbage and log in again!
Chronos had just a crash for like 15 mins and i dunno why!!

I wish we had one too so that the server would be cleaned
out of the garbage and log in again!
Unless they do something about situations like this (http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7446/shot00022ug.jpg) the problem will go on forever.


Hint:Check behind the Gatekeeper.
yay! wb ss lag! we didn't miss you... at all
What you show is also in Talking Island village and probably in most villages. When will the GMs wake up???????????????
These people are ruining the game for everyone. Limit the accounts per pc immediately!!!!
Can I borrow the mob's shots? They work...
Shots were fine for about 45 minutes after the server crash today, then slowly started to get worse. My average time between shots before I gave up grinding was 30 seconds.

I'm assuming the translator(s) for Korea have a problem understanding english, thus can't properly convey the problem to the programmers to fix the problem right the first time.
At least when you DO manage to log on Naia, you can play.

We can log on Chronos but it's unplayable because shots will have a 30sec lag...

Yeah... so... wanna log on Chronos instead? :P
Too many people from Chronos playing on Naia because of SS lag? :P
Too many people from Chronos playing on Naia because of SS lag? :P

LOL I'm not there today!

Considering spamming the login though to have something to do... especially as it's way too hot outside to go out :D
LOL I'm not there today!

Considering spamming the login though to have something to do... especially as it's way too hot outside to go out :D

Hot?...pfft, it's 7 degrees here, with snow on the ground...

Oh yeah back to the topic. I try a couple times to log in, and when it dosent work, I move on. It makes no sense to spam the login servers, if I get in I get in, if not? then I can find something else to do. This is a game, and while I enjoy it, it doesnt rule everything I do. So, it's no use getting upset over something you can't control. Everyone has thier own solution to the "problems" but until an actual fix can be implemented, and not a band-aid, im content to just wait it out.
This mentor system idea in a full of people free to play server is re tarded at least.