Agreed. I'm sorry but no one wants to leave a character that they spent days, weeks, months, or even years getting to the state they are now. Opening a new server has no appeal to me. Just because there's a new server with a few things people get for being the first on the server to do something, it is not incentive enough for me to even consider switching servers. I put time and energy into my first characters and would rather quit L2 then start a new toon on a new server so that I'm able to to play without having to wait 20 minutes trying to log in. If this is not paid attention to and known I have a feeling many will stop putting up with the inconveniences these issues cause. This has been an issue since the release of the new free lineage 2 and it seems silly that the same answer always seems to be put into place. Well lets throw another server on there. Maybe when these servers are opened up, if NCsoft took a look at possibly having options transferring characters to new servers then people might actually move instead of just having an end result of another full server that takes forever to log into. If i was able to move my character I would consider it but until then I will be staying on Chronos even though it's always full. I feel a majority of people would agree with this.
Agreed. I'm sorry but no one wants to leave a character that they spent days, weeks, months, or even years getting to the state they are now. Opening a new server has no appeal to me. Just because there's a new server with a few things people get for being the first on the server to do something, it is not incentive enough for me to even consider switching servers. I put time and energy into my first characters and would rather quit L2 then start a new toon on a new server so that I'm able to to play without having to wait 20 minutes trying to log in. If this is not paid attention to and known I have a feeling many will stop putting up with the inconveniences these issues cause. This has been an issue since the release of the new free lineage 2 and it seems silly that the same answer always seems to be put into place. Well lets throw another server on there. Maybe when these servers are opened up, if NCsoft took a look at possibly having options transferring characters to new servers then people might actually move instead of just having an end result of another full server that takes forever to log into. If i was able to move my character I would consider it but until then I will be staying on Chronos even though it's always full. I feel a majority of people would agree with this.
What i want sai is that ncsoft should open server with free transpher for a little time,NCsoft made it for Aion already made it so NCsoft L2 should be able to make it too
What i want to suggest is that ncsoft should open server with free transfer for a little time,NCsoft made it for Aion already made it so NCsoft L2 should be able to make it too
+++ agree
Agreed. I'm sorry but no one wants to leave a character that they spent days, weeks, months, or even years getting to the state they are now. Opening a new server has no appeal to me. Just because there's a new server with a few things people get for being the first on the server to do something, it is not incentive enough for me to even consider switching servers. I put time and energy into my first characters and would rather quit L2 then start a new toon on a new server so that I'm able to to play without having to wait 20 minutes trying to log in. If this is not paid attention to and known I have a feeling many will stop putting up with the inconveniences these issues cause. This has been an issue since the release of the new free lineage 2 and it seems silly that the same answer always seems to be put into place. Well lets throw another server on there. Maybe when these servers are opened up, if NCsoft took a look at possibly having options transferring characters to new servers then people might actually move instead of just having an end result of another full server that takes forever to log into. If i was able to move my character I would consider it but until then I will be staying on Chronos even though it's always full. I feel a majority of people would agree with this.
You got the problem, all wrong, last time I checked ALL SERVERS were Heavy, it's not that Chronos is full all servers are full, realistically they need a beefed up login server and a new server with free transfers as a Clan, not just single players, but whole clans, since some clans have been around for quite a while and I know I'd not want to move to a new server and try to find or create a clan from scratch.
As many of you know, there have been various issues with servers and player experience of the game lately. These include:
Players not being able to log in due to server being at capacity (due to the event, bots, and the high volume of players online in general).
High frequency crashes on Naia this past weekend.
Castle Siege issues on Shilen and Magmeld.
Server crashes being higher in frequency than before we launched Truly Free.
(New as of 1/11/2012) Extremely high lag on all servers, especially visible with Soulshots.
These issues are not necessarily related to each other, but we are covering them all in this post. Although we have not yet found solutions to all of the issues, rest assured that we are aware of them and have been looking for solutions ever since they started. Unfortunately we have not had details to share with you as to how, when or what the various solutions may be at this time. Please do not mistake any lack of daily official response to these matters as a lack of progress or effort. The issues and our search for solutions is ever on-going and we hope you will soon see results of it.
We hope to have some more concrete updates for you as the week goes on.
*Update* Regarding the all-servers lag issue, we are currently testing a fix. If it works out, we'll hopefully implement it today. If not, we will have to request another one. We will update you as news comes.
How about if you would open up some new servers with Chronos and Naia time based and let everyone migrate to those servers for free if they want? This way everyone would be happy!
So there is this friend who thought that he was running a successful business and when failed he had to go back to successful business alphabet:
Started with A:
The customer must always been communicated within a timely fashion. He had the wrong impression of "timely". If the communication is delayed beyond customer satisfaction (again he thought of "satisfaction" as something that is business irrelevant) then something concrete should be communicated.
Not worth getting to B as A was graded with D- and he had to re-take the class.
The Tersi's Light event = the source of all the problems you just listed.
This event encouraged people to create (thousands of) level 1 characters to sit AFK all day waiting for event items to spawn. No one can log in because all these level 1 characters have maxed out the server character limit. Hello!
It has really got out of hand. I haven't been able to log on at all today even though I've tried numerous times due to server traffic. I know Truly Free benefits NCsoft but not the players. At least I could actually play the game with a subscription. Maybe we need a server restricted to only active accounts older than one year. I even like the idea of kicking off any account idle for an extended period of time, although it would hurt the mentoring aspect of the game considerably and player shops. I'm just glad to hear the GMs are working on the problem.
Ive been trying to log in for 1 hour+ now, not all the time but ,once every 2-5min.
Why do i want to log in, so that i can sit afk and give mentor buffs before i go to bed.....
Doesn't that sounds weird, i want to log in so that i can go afk and take a spot from someone that was going to play for real....
Change the mentor buff system, even if its not the solution to all the problems its still takes up a lot of free player spots.
- stop making events like these ones witch requires people to be online to benefit from them
- make OFFLINE shops witch will decrease a lot the traffic of server
- or decrease a lot the Auction house fee/add BUY option on it/also to be able to sell armors set not just parts, so you can make the system to auto-kick people witch are too much time AFK on server
-open more servers :confused: but yet many people would not want to go and start all over after they worked hard on their characters,but it`s good idea anyway
-do something about the mentoring system ,so players won`t need to be 24/24 7/7 on the get the buffs and bonuses
-read all the tons of threads with suggestions players made ,i bet you can find some good suggestions there
And btw, do you understand that there is weak place in your system that allow to create 1 account in 3-5 sec w\o any problems? Just simple script that send log/pass and account ready. And each account created for this event will be inactive forever but still exist in database. So next time you will need 6 hours for weekly maintance?
As many of you know, there have been various issues with servers and player experience of the game lately. These include:
Players not being able to log in due to server being at capacity (due to the event, bots, and the high volume of players online in general).
High frequency crashes on Naia this past weekend.
Castle Siege issues on Shilen and Magmeld.
Server crashes being higher in frequency than before we launched Truly Free.
These issues are not necessarily related to each other, but we are covering them all in this post. Although we have not yet found solutions to all of the issues, rest assured that we are aware of them and have been looking for solutions ever since they started. Unfortunately we have not had details to share with you as to how, when or what the various solutions may be at this time. Please do not mistake any lack of daily official response to these matters as a lack of progress or effort. The issues and our search for solutions is ever on-going and we hope you will soon see results of it.
We hope to have some more concrete updates for you as the week goes on.
my answer on that post after so many days of problems is this " AHA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA NCWEST HA -HA -HA -HA -HA "
if u want solutions on ur problems i dont know really i dont wanna talk about about u personally or anyone from NCWEST TEAM .. BUT..... is it so hard and u need to think a lot to do the following things??
with the thousand of money from l2store u did fix server capacity and increase it u are able to buy beter servers.
Kick all 1 -18 lvl toons from server every 5 min
kick every player from game after 15 min afk
kick all Aden shops from game (actioner is there for shops at least during event)
RESTART SERVER AND STOP EVENT.(99% of the server exept farmers and adenas sellers would like this to happen)
Log in NAIA (if u can and u dont have traffic problem) and BAN toons they shout for adenas from 3425343456 different sites and companys.
STOP doing events like this where people have to be online permanently (u saw even before god with the event u made for transform scrolls and vit we had almost same problem and lagg was amazing at this time)
MOVE all new acounts made on NAIA to another server who has space
and i can continue writing solutions about this problem if u want .. the key point is IF u want to fix this.. And when u are about to fix this im just letting u know like 2-3k people for sure who bought in game item from l2 store like 50% of exp 7days should get a full replaced item also cuz u just made them pay and they lost like 3-4 days already .
So its up to you if u are about to fix this solutions are many to find around.
Sace, it would of been nice to see an acknowledgement that you guys are aware of the problems a lot earlier even if you had no news of progress. Even a response that simple can go a long way.
As many of you know, there have been various issues with servers and player experience of the game lately. These include:
Players not being able to log in due to server being at capacity (due to the event, bots, and the high volume of players online in general).
High frequency crashes on Naia this past weekend.
Castle Siege issues on Shilen and Magmeld.
Server crashes being higher in frequency than before we launched Truly Free.
These issues are not necessarily related to each other, but we are covering them all in this post. Although we have not yet found solutions to all of the issues, rest assured that we are aware of them and have been looking for solutions ever since they started. Unfortunately we have not had details to share with you as to how, when or what the various solutions may be at this time. Please do not mistake any lack of daily official response to these matters as a lack of progress or effort. The issues and our search for solutions is ever on-going and we hope you will soon see results of it.
We hope to have some more concrete updates for you as the week goes on.
Thanks Sace for responding to my letter in this way, means a lot to me personally too.
Communication is the key.
my answer on that post after so many days of problems is this " AHA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA NCWEST HA -HA -HA -HA -HA "
if u want solutions on ur problems i dont know really i dont wanna talk about about u personally or anyone from NCWEST TEAM .. BUT..... is it so hard and u need to think a lot to do the following things??
with the thousand of money from l2store u did fix server capacity and increase it u are able to buy beter servers.
Kick all 1 -18 lvl toons from server every 5 min
kick every player from game after 15 min afk
kick all Aden shops from game (actioner is there for shops at least during event)
RESTART SERVER AND STOP EVENT.(99% of the server exept farmers and adenas sellers would like this to happen)
Log in NAIA (if u can and u dont have traffic problem) and BAN toons they shout for adenas from 3425343456 different sites and companys.
STOP doing events like this where people have to be online permanently (u saw even before god with the event u made for transform scrolls and vit we had almost same problem and lagg was amazing at this time)
MOVE all new acounts made on NAIA to another server who has space
and i can continue writing solutions about this problem if u want .. the key point is IF u want to fix this.. And when u are about to fix this im just letting u know like 2-3k people for sure who bought in game item from l2 store like 50% of exp 7days should get a full replaced item also cuz u just made them pay and they lost like 3-4 days already .
So its up to you if u are about to fix this solutions are many to find around.
GL.
WORSE IDEA EVER!....you sir need to go stand in the corner for this post! "kick every player from game after 15 min afk" JEEZ!
WORSE IDEA EVER!....you sir need to go stand in the corner for this post! "kick every player from game after 15 min afk" JEEZ!
U **** if u afk why u are loged and keep 1 slot for another player? are u braindamaged or what? others want to play. Do u like now that u cant log in while 2k bots are afk last 3 days? if yes good for u i dont. And before u say anything try to write any solution then to say **** about any others opinion
NC:
To me it doesnt look like u deal with any problems at all. You just talk and talk.
This is in all of your games! A lot of RMT and botters.
The only thing u need to do is go on the server and start banning bots without "investigating" the player for 6 months first.
So many other mmo companys have no prob finding solutions FAST.
A simple thing as making a chat filter would prevent alot of RMT.
When i was playing RIFT it took them 1 day to implement chat filters, and they kept updating by the hour.. And after a few days there were no more advertising gold sellers, by shouts or mail, or PM.
Why is it so hard for you???
NC:
To me it doesnt look like u deal with any problems at all. You just talk and talk.
This is in all of your games! A lot of RMT and botters.
The only thing u need to do is go on the server and start banning bots without "investigating" the player for 6 months first.
So many other mmo companys have no prob finding solutions FAST.
A simple thing as making a chat filter would prevent alot of RMT.
When i was playing RIFT it took them 1 day to implement chat filters, and they kept updating by the hour.. And after a few days there were no more advertising gold sellers, by shouts or mail, or PM.
Why is it so hard for you???
Don't ask the Lemon tree to make Apples
Don't compare a Fiat with a Lamborghini
with the thousand of money from l2store u did fix server capacity and increase it u are able to buy beter servers
Server capacity is max, even if they add more slots, there will be 1 mob for 3 chars, zones will be more overcrowded than now.
Kick all 1 -18 lvl toons from server every 5 min
kick every player from game after 15 min afk
Lot of ppl go to get a drink,smoke a cigarrete or have launch/dinner for some minutes and leave the char logged to not have to log in. With this "solution" you would make ppl spam login.
kick all Aden shops from game (actioner is there for shops at least during event)
Auctioner have a cost, some ppl prefere to dont pay the fee to have better incoming. And most of them for mentees/mentors. A solution could be to down a bit the fee of Auctioner and not need to be on Mentee/Mentor.
RESTART SERVER AND STOP EVENT.(99% of the server exept farmers and adenas sellers would like this to happen)
They would do it, if they knew how to. They are waiting for an update from NC korea, to stop the event. And yes, this event have to stop.
Log in NAIA (if u can and u dont have traffic problem) and BAN toons they shout for adenas from 3425343456 different sites and companys.
They are trying to find a lazy solution. It would be nice a gm all day baning, but they would get crazy. The new Account Creation system of trully free is just a joke.
STOP doing events like this where people have to be online permanently (u saw even before god with the event u made for transform scrolls and vit we had almost same problem and lagg was amazing at this time)
Agree with this, except that, it would be nice if the specters were not tradeable and the fragments not tradeable too. So they would need to get fragments with the char they are using. The other day i saw a guy in aden selling 5k specters. The problem is the trade, not the event itself.
MOVE all new acounts made on NAIA to another server who has space
A new server where you can move your account from Naia would be nice, at least for the first month period, etc. But the problem is not the server, is the event and the ppl abusing of it.
dont get ur panties in a knot...just saying your idea is junk....chill! I dont have any ideas cause i dont have issues with logging in or anything else.
What about the Rune of XP we purchased this week? Pretty much unplayable server or we can't log on and this time it is not planned maintenance to get a lame excuse of all these hours wasted, but it is purely your incompetence to handle live players.
Thanks for the comments Sace (at least you give us feedback), but you're telling us that NC Soft knows the problem but don't know how to deal with this ?? So we have a big problem here. This is serious. :eek::eek::eek::eek:
Give 1 nc coin for PLAYERS for every dc due to high trafic.
I'll be rich :).
Serious, this event spam bots and farmers. More one time the event is based in time with online log to get prizes. At this momment servers have constantly high traffic. Create a event like, if you log on max 2 hours each day with only one account at same IP you get a gift to vitality replenish for 30 min... or any other event based in players loged out.
Players want play, players don't like bot events. And finnaly, gm admit bots. Is a good begin.
There were issues with login in before the event during seige times etc. So to say its just the event would be incorrect, however I agree the event makes the problem even worse.
I feel 15mins is to short, but I think that kicking a toon that has been inactive from like 4 hrs wouldn't be unreasonable. Even if someone has a shop that is a good amount of time to have a shop up without it being kicked. If your gonna be gone for 4 hrs a shop or mentee would be the only reason to be in game.
Change the mentee/mentor system so that you dont have to be logged in to receive the bonus.
I think that opening a new server that allows transfer is a good idea. maybe even two servers. But this needs to be done in correlation with the event being ended.
High frequency crashes on Naia this past weekend.
Castle Siege issues on Shilen and Magmeld.
Server crashes being higher in frequency than before we launched Truly Free.
Sace with full respect.
It is against rules post such things not in bot tread.
Get yourself points.
DO just 1st warning to not ban yourself.
P.S. It sounds strange but I'm happy to see that you have notice there are bots everywhere.
U **** if u afk why u are loged and keep 1 slot for another player? are u braindamaged or what? others want to play. Do u like now that u cant log in while 2k bots are afk last 3 days? if yes good for u i dont. And before u say anything try to write any solution then to say **** about any others opinion
At least NC should pay some attention to those players who paid for almost 6 years to this game and show some god **** respect.
You can increase the capasity of each server and don't ever do events like that
I really wanna ask NC smt: Who is the guy who thinks those events are actually amusing for ppl playing lineage2 really!!!!!!
I can't believe a post was made here acknowledging the issues and a "search for solutions" when the login problem amplified tenfold with the start of this event.
imo server space on naia and chronos will always be a problem in free server, i suggest l2 store sell vip accounts for players that wants to log without waiting. this people making lv 1 alts wont buy and they can deal with the heavy traffic mensage
Today it is 10th of January. The event ends on the 25th. That is half a month without Lineage2. I've read various ideas about kicking people and stuff. The only solution to this problem is to END UP this event as soon as possible. All other ideas cost money (Servers,Game Masters e.t.c.).
U **** if u afk why u are loged and keep 1 slot for another player? are u braindamaged or what? others want to play. Do u like now that u cant log in while 2k bots are afk last 3 days? if yes good for u i dont. And before u say anything try to write any solution then to say **** about any others opinion
Welcome back, mate =)
Server slots will not be a problem if NC stop time-based reward events.
I think that NC stuff wait for some one from players to fix this issue. And best solution is to set toon who will check every 10 sec toons in TI and disconnect all who dont have first class (below 20 lvl). Also this action can be done on other locations. But there is some problems with this method - most of players who can do it leave game and even if some one remain he prefer to get benefit from this event using special 3d software (that allow to load 50-100 accounts from single PC).
Most of those level 1 character are on "Out of Game Clients", so it takes close to nothing in resources to run 30 clients on one good computer compare to normal player in current situation. Not even talking about all the server lag they have created for the players that moving around the towns. If you port to town and unlucky to spawn near cluster of event bots, you pretty much guaranteed a disconnect - gl login in.
All this also leads to casual players (or should I call em actual players) disconnect more frequently.
All the OGC characters, have feature that will instantly re-connect them if disconnected or able to try to log on server as fast as logging server will allow them, compare to typing the info as an actual player. Basicaly making it close to impossible for actual players to log in while there are bots "in que" to log in.
PS - would be great thing to ban main characters that are associated with any of those event bots that using 3rd party programs. do it plix plox!
And best solution is to set toon who will check every 10 sec toons in TI and disconnect all who dont have first class (below 20 lvl).
Um you realize TI is the starting area right? If they disconnect everybody under 20 how on earth are people supposed to ... level?
The simple answer is add a level requirement to events like that ... 61 or 76 or whatever takes time to achieve, that way there won't be 1000 lvl 1s farming it
Make event items non tradeable, rewards tradeable. Unlike you did and IMO did wrong with the NCstore items now that most is untradeable
Log in at least 1 hour a day and check bots <.< and actually check the places where a bot report was made, if the player fails to answer and is not sitting but xping, BAN (No need for a 6 month investigation if you see by yourself that he's exping and not answering a GM)
2. Autoloot!!! (no more thousands of items that are onthe floor everywhere in the world)
Thx arrow
If good privs dont have problem with that - and im not talking about l2j-trash, then on official its not an issue as well.
And use search option to know why this idea sux from player-site.
Hi everyone,
Unfortunately we have not had details to share with you as to how, when or what the various solutions may be at this time. Please do not mistake any lack of daily official response to these matters as a lack of progress or effort. The issues and our search for solutions is ever on-going and we hope you will soon see results of it.
We hope to have some more concrete updates for you as the week goes on.
I dont believe you, sorry
Im playing and paying this game since 2005.
Personaly I havent played any other online game so far.
I dont like WOW havent even try it, but I can understand now why millions of ppl prefer this game the most.
ITS BECAUSE OF THE SUPPORT THEY GET THERE.
After all I wish L2 was never made free game.
I m really desapointed now for all these years investing my money and my time to a company that dont know (or maybe DONT WANT) to protect their customers.
Tersy's light is what THEY need actually.
We dont thank you...
NC:
To me it doesnt look like u deal with any problems at all. You just talk and talk.
This is in all of your games! A lot of RMT and botters.
The only thing u need to do is go on the server and start banning bots without "investigating" the player for 6 months first.
So many other mmo companys have no prob finding solutions FAST.
A simple thing as making a chat filter would prevent alot of RMT.
When i was playing RIFT it took them 1 day to implement chat filters, and they kept updating by the hour.. And after a few days there were no more advertising gold sellers, by shouts or mail, or PM.
Why is it so hard for you???
Im playing and paying this game since 2005.
Personaly I havent played any other online game so far.
I dont like WOW havent even try it, but I can understand now why millions of ppl prefer this game the most.
ITS BECAUSE OF THE SUPPORT THEY GET THERE.
After all I wish L2 was never made free game.
I m really desapointed now for all these years investing my money and my time to a company that dont know (or maybe DONT WANT) to protect their customers.
Tersy's light is what THEY need actually.
We dont thank you...
I kinda feel the same, I've been playing on retail since C3 an payed for 2 accounts since C4... It's always been a love hate realationship (love for L2, hate for NCSofts slacking), tho Love for L2 alwayse outweighed the hate bits, but now I'm just fed up with it and only log L2 (if i can even login) to be on a way to laggy server where I can't even target mobs...
NC's solution is, as usualy, 'don't do a thing'... The problem will solve itself as alot of players will be fed up with the situation and move on to a different game, servers will end up empty again and the 'problem' is 'solved'...
I would of payed 2x the monthly fee if NC would maintain their servers as well as blizzard does...
REFUND MY WASTED RUNE XP OR G.T.F.O.!
We dont need more excuses..!! We supported you so many years and you show no respect.. It's not my problem that so many bots play, not my problem your servers suck.. my only problem is that i spend 20 euros that gone wasted.. so solve my problem first and do whatever you want with YOUR problems!
As many of you know, there have been various issues with servers and player experience of the game lately. These include:
Players not being able to log in due to server being at capacity (due to the event, bots, and the high volume of players online in general).
High frequency crashes on Naia this past weekend.
Castle Siege issues on Shilen and Magmeld.
Server crashes being higher in frequency than before we launched Truly Free.
These issues are not necessarily related to each other, but we are covering them all in this post. Although we have not yet found solutions to all of the issues, rest assured that we are aware of them and have been looking for solutions ever since they started. Unfortunately we have not had details to share with you as to how, when or what the various solutions may be at this time. Please do not mistake any lack of daily official response to these matters as a lack of progress or effort. The issues and our search for solutions is ever on-going and we hope you will soon see results of it.
We hope to have some more concrete updates for you as the week goes on.
Im playing and paying this game since 2005.
Personaly I havent played any other online game so far.
I dont like WOW havent even try it, but I can understand now why millions of ppl prefer this game the most.
ITS BECAUSE OF THE SUPPORT THEY GET THERE.
Absolutely correct I left L2 on 2009 due to all the crappy support NCSoft provided at that time and tried WoW for 2 years. Great support even on a stupid loot mistake that the whole party was supposed to get and it got bugged. Made a ticket within 6 hours all the party had the item.
I guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks so NCsoft will fail as usual.
REFUND MY WASTED RUNE XP OR G.T.F.O.!
We dont need more excuses..!! We supported you so many years and you show no respect.. It's not my problem that so many bots play, not my problem your servers suck.. my only problem is that i spend 20 euros that gone wasted.. so solve my problem first and do whatever you want with YOUR problems!
They just won't refund you or me or anyone. I bet their response will be "Due to unforeseen technical issues we can not refund you on your item purchased on L2Store. Have a nice day"
At this point if you havent found a solution for bots, I guess you NC-NA wont find any. Bots are not new to offical server there is no emoticon to describe it.
How about if you would open up some new servers with Chronos and Naia time based and let everyone migrate to those servers for free if they want? This way everyone would be happy!
As many of you know, there have been various issues with servers and player experience of the game lately. These include:
Players not being able to log in due to server being at capacity (due to the event, bots, and the high volume of players online in general).
High frequency crashes on Naia this past weekend.
Castle Siege issues on Shilen and Magmeld.
Server crashes being higher in frequency than before we launched Truly Free.
These issues are not necessarily related to each other, but we are covering them all in this post.
Dear Sace,
I have to admit I dont like standard PR talks. At least I don't like if people intentionally lie to me.
I can understand Naia crashes - you have technical problem. If you will keep people updated I think majority will understand it.
I can understand CS issues on new servers - see above.
I can understand servers being crashed more often that we were used to.
But I cant accept you denying relationship of current event and impossibility to log in. Any person who tries to think at least once per day should be clear what will happen when you start event which has tradeable event items on f2p server. Notice I dont reproach you bots because we all know that you are unable to do anything (which I understood in time when they paid for account, but now?). Bots were, bots are, bots will be. But it is a difference if you can log in in 5-10 attempts or in more then hour.
I could speak ages about things which were caused by this but it wouldn't have any sense. You can very easily solve this problem. You have even two possibilities:
a) temporarily stop event during maintenance and restart it when you will upgrade your hardware
b) make event items untradeable
If you will continue in doing nothing, you can very easily lose quite a lot money because players are not stupid and they will consider if they will pay for exp rune or not if they don't know whether they will be lucky to log in or not.
Here is the deal and whoever thinks otherwise is just plain stupid.
Lineage 2 is a cow, they milk the poor cow to its limit. They just dont give a **** about the cow mainly because they want as much milk out of the cow as possible and when the milk stops to flow, they just put a bullet between the eyes and goes to find a new cow that they will start milking like crazy
GW2 coming out soon, get where im going with this?
MOVE all new acounts made on NAIA to another server who has space
This sir, is the worst idea ever. Since Innova sux really really hard, Naia is the only EURO time server. I just cant imagine idea of going oly or/and CS at 2 a.m. lol
Here is the deal and whoever thinks otherwise is just plain stupid.
Lineage 2 is a cow, they milk the poor cow to its limit. They just dont give a **** about the cow mainly because they want as much milk out of the cow as possible and when the milk stops to flow, they just put a bullet between the eyes and goes to find a new cow that they will start milking like crazy
GW2 coming out soon, get where im going with this?
But how they will earn if they made game free and now they do nothing for people who bought anything from their shop? Do you think people will be eager to buy anything again if they can see that NCsoft doesn't care about their time limited bought items?
But how they will earn if they made game free and now they do nothing for people who bought anything from their shop? Do you think people will be eager to buy anything again if they can see that NCsoft doesn't care about their time limited bought items?
There will ALWAYS be ppl who still buy **** from their store and thats income too, as i said...they are squeezing every penny out of this game and when ppl start quitting in rage, they just cancel the game and move on to other games in their portfolio.
Dont you see it? They take whatever they can get out of this game now, screwing the players over and just dont give a crap about anything related to L2
Sorry what is GW2??? A new online game maybe?:confused::confused::confused:
These issues are not necessarily related to each other, but we are covering them all in this post. Although we have not yet found solutions to all of the issues, rest assured that we are aware of them and have been looking for solutions ever since they started. Unfortunately we have not had details to share with you as to how, when or what the various solutions may be at this time. Please do not mistake any lack of daily official response to these matters as a lack of progress or effort. The issues and our search for solutions is ever on-going and we hope you will soon see results of it.
We hope to have some more concrete updates for you as the week goes on.
Man i'm having Deja vu. I'm certain that =spam= wrote something very similar to this....just replace the word issues with the word bots.
Then after doing nothing for a few months up came the bot report button which also did nothing.
Guess nothing from nothing is nothing...
Oh Sace....... i like really like the hope your post has created...just like =spam='s did. At least once his credibility was compromised they removed him.
Here is a very easy fix for these type of event overcrowding. Make it so any accounts/characters created after the event starts not able to receive event items. This way everyone isn't making account for the event and when you ban accounts they cant just recreate them for the event.
Hi everyone,
As many of you know, there have been various issues with servers and player experience of the game lately. These include:
Players not being able to log in due to server being at capacity (due to the event, bots, and the high volume of players online in general).
High frequency crashes on Naia this past weekend.
Castle Siege issues on Shilen and Magmeld.
Server crashes being higher in frequency than before we launched Truly Free.
These issues are not necessarily related to each other, but we are covering them all in this post. Although we have not yet found solutions to all of the issues, rest assured that we are aware of them and have been looking for solutions ever since they started. Unfortunately we have not had details to share with you as to how, when or what the various solutions may be at this time. Please do not mistake any lack of daily official response to these matters as a lack of progress or effort. The issues and our search for solutions is ever on-going and we hope you will soon see results of it.
We hope to have some more concrete updates for you as the week goes on.
I'd like to make a simple suggestion
The servers are full during events and so because people make diffirent accounts every 2 minutes, just to gt ingame rewards
As manny states event rewards should not betradable except trough dimensional manager to toons on the same account.
But secondary, the creation of new toons should be restricted to the server capacity.
Server capacity being 6300-6500 toons... we all know we are beyond that with this event.
But then again raises another question and that's the one of a friend wanting to join another friend on an already full server.
Solution ? a monthly wipe of all lvl 1 toons, if there's enough warning ingame there should be no problem, u kill one elpy u'r lvl 2 so no reason for it to be a dragg if u want a lowbie shop toon account.
Secondary aplly lists may be wanted .
Thirtiary a waiting que at the login so u know when u'll be able to log in or not, takes the heat of the anger of waiting in vain and trying to log in for nothing.
If people wouldn't be so uncivilized, there would be no problem with this event. The truth is: there will always be stupid persons who will ruin the game for everyone using bots (or logging hundreds of accounts in this case) for making money IN A GAME, 'cause this is A GAME we're talking about and having a lot of money in lineage 2 doesn't make you win at life. Especially if to get them you don't allow to play other persons who want just to kill some time during afternoon.
To those who are using bots or farming the aghation items logging tons of accounts making impossible for others player to log in I say: what kind of people are you in real life if you have this kind of behavior in an online game?
In this update the developers have introduced several features which concentrate a considerable part of the server population at certain times in certain places (daily quests, campaigns ...), and even if you increase the server capacity to 10,000 this will not increase the number of monsters in the Frozen Labyrinth or at the Wall of Argos. The current event will be over in one week, but sooner or later your head office in Seoul will send you the Dragon Year event, where people again get items (Little and Big Dragon Eggs) when they are logged in and have the Flame Spirit Agathion summoned: http://power.plaync.co.kr/lineage2/%EB%93%9C%EB%9D%BC%EC%BD%94%EC%9D%98+%ED%83%84%EC% 83%9D
People in Asia like to experience "community" in a bodily sense, they find closely packed places (热闹, as they say in China - "hot and noisy") comforting. That's the reason why the developers design events which require characters to remain logged in - they want to give the towns a lively appearance. Do not deceive yourself - the development department will not spend man-hours to adapt the Dragon Year event to the specific situation on NCWest servers. You must change your ways and adapt to the given event, otherwise you will find yourself in a few months in exactly the same situation as right now.
And how do you have to change? Simply disable account creation. That means the RMT sites can no longer create new characters when their old advertisers get deleted, no new bots when the old ones get taken out. And when no new players join the community, you have the leisure to delete the accounts of old players who have been reported for suspicious behavior in the past. Simply work your way back in time, first bot reports from 2011, then from 2010 ... until you have reduced the server populations to around 2000 (Naia has at present 6000). Then, and only then, maybe after a few months, you can reopen Lineage 2 for new players, starting the account deleting procedure again when the online number reaches 3000.
In this update the developers have introduced several features which concentrate a considerable part of the server population at certain times in certain places (daily quests, campaigns ...), and even if you increase the server capacity to 10,000 this will not increase the number of monsters in the Frozen Labyrinth or at the Wall of Argos. The current event will be over in one week, but sooner or later your head office in Seoul will send you the Dragon Year event, where people again get items (Little and Big Dragon Eggs) when they are logged in and have the Flame Spirit Agathion summoned: http://power.plaync.co.kr/lineage2/%EB%93%9C%EB%9D%BC%EC%BD%94%EC%9D%98+%ED%83%84%EC% 83%9D
People in Asia like to experience "community" in a bodily sense, they find closely packed places (热闹, as they say in China - "hot and noisy") comforting. That's the reason why the developers design events which require characters to remain logged in - they want to give the towns a lively appearance. Do not deceive yourself - the development department will not spend man-hours to adapt the Dragon Year event to the specific situation on NCWest servers. You must change your ways and adapt to the given event, otherwise you will find yourself in a few months in exactly the same situation as right now.
And how do you have to change? Simply disable account creation. That means the RMT sites can no longer create new characters when their old advertisers get deleted, no new bots when the old ones get taken out. And when no new players join the community, you have the leisure to delete the accounts of old players who have been reported for suspicious behavior in the past. Simply work your way back in time, first bot reports from 2011, then from 2010 ... until you have reduced the server populations to around 2000 (Naia has at present 6000). Then, and only then, maybe after a few months, you can reopen Lineage 2 for new players, starting the account deleting procedure again when the online number reaches 3000.
The sad thing appears to be not that our suggestions is not being fowarded to the right place, but rather the management decide to ignore them and treat the customers with no respect.
Stop comparing ****** up WoW with Linage 2. Each game has his uniqueness. I know, my friend's account was hacked 3-4 times. All character was naked, without any golds even. BUT each item in WoW is soul bound which means if you get one item YOU CANT trade it, only you can sell it to VENDOR... in LINEAGE 2 everything is tradable how you will gonna prove that the guy who stole your items is not friend, but it is some hacker??? I'll tell you NO WAY, cuz with simple thing like a ******* event everyone (almost everyone) made a tons of lvl 1 character to make more event items... If lineage 2 team supports you and gives your all stolen items back... what you think? How fast everyone will have TOP items +10 enchanted and ***** like that??? Come on.... you fail like a ROCK... 9,8 m. per sec!
Yes NCsoft does many mistakes and makes you anger but... 8 years (not sure) or since Prelude/C1 till now that game was most populated game!!! Over 15 millions of copies sold! This is cuz worth it! Yes may be they talk more than they do, but give em some time. Put bugs that you find or issues without flaming. Cuz when you say NC fail, you are not helping yourself at all!
Ideas:
1. Make a system msg window which appears per 15 minutes for example and in that window is a question... Simple one:
2+3=? and a empty space where you put the answer 5, ok you are not bot. Cuz every 15 minutes different question 10/5=?, 2+5=?, 12-6=? If you cant answer go ******* learn your math your less than 8 years old!!!!!!!! What the **** you are doing in game?
Or another question - What game you are playing? What is your level? What class you play? And ***** like that which prevents AFK players and ******* BOTS!!!!!!!
2. Events - make them for example some ppl said it 43+ lvl can't do any event... Yeah do not flame at me... it is just 2 hours of game to make a ******* character 43 lvl by making quests. And this will prevent morons to make tons of 1st lvl character for event.
I think 1st solution will solve a lot of server problems? And you can restrict seller from this window (sorry it doesn't help against gold sellers), no it helps, cuz they will not be allowed of using bots for gold farm!
With such a population grow you're still so afraid to ban all those scripted peeps? that for sure will fix the lag/login issues (tho not sure about your shop incomes)
/facepalm
In this update the developers have introduced several features which concentrate a considerable part of the server population at certain times in certain places (daily quests, campaigns ...), and even if you increase the server capacity to 10,000 this will not increase the number of monsters in the Frozen Labyrinth or at the Wall of Argos. The current event will be over in one week, but sooner or later your head office in Seoul will send you the Dragon Year event, where people again get items (Little and Big Dragon Eggs) when they are logged in and have the Flame Spirit Agathion summoned: http://power.plaync.co.kr/lineage2/%EB%93%9C%EB%9D%BC%EC%BD%94%EC%9D%98+%ED%83%84%EC% 83%9D
People in Asia like to experience "community" in a bodily sense, they find closely packed places (热闹, as they say in China - "hot and noisy") comforting. That's the reason why the developers design events which require characters to remain logged in - they want to give the towns a lively appearance. Do not deceive yourself - the development department will not spend man-hours to adapt the Dragon Year event to the specific situation on NCWest servers. You must change your ways and adapt to the given event, otherwise you will find yourself in a few months in exactly the same situation as right now.
And how do you have to change? Simply disable account creation. That means the RMT sites can no longer create new characters when their old advertisers get deleted, no new bots when the old ones get taken out. And when no new players join the community, you have the leisure to delete the accounts of old players who have been reported for suspicious behavior in the past. Simply work your way back in time, first bot reports from 2011, then from 2010 ... until you have reduced the server populations to around 2000 (Naia has at present 6000). Then, and only then, maybe after a few months, you can reopen Lineage 2 for new players, starting the account deleting procedure again when the online number reaches 3000.
+++ This is the most logical and well established complain/suggestion/solution i have read in these forums since years (before F2p as observer and after as actual player)
There would be an easy way ... restrict the login to 1 or a maximum of 2 player's for each IP adress. Then no one can login 20-100 Accounts at the same time to fill the Server with lvl 1 Chars for Event. Till the Auction House we don't need anymore the Stores in Town, or make offline stores like ppl before said.
And if ppl login from Internet Cafe's, make exceptions for them if they can proove u that they are a IC.
Or Kick ppl below lvl 40 if they Idle longer than 10-15min ... ppl that wanna make a store can lvl them fast to 40, ppl that make them for Events won't do it.
In this update the developers have introduced several features which concentrate a considerable part of the server population at certain times in certain places (daily quests, campaigns ...), and even if you increase the server capacity to 10,000 this will not increase the number of monsters in the Frozen Labyrinth or at the Wall of Argos. The current event will be over in one week, but sooner or later your head office in Seoul will send you the Dragon Year event, where people again get items (Little and Big Dragon Eggs) when they are logged in and have the Flame Spirit Agathion summoned: http://power.plaync.co.kr/lineage2/%EB%93%9C%EB%9D%BC%EC%BD%94%EC%9D%98+%ED%83%84%EC% 83%9D
People in Asia like to experience "community" in a bodily sense, they find closely packed places (热闹, as they say in China - "hot and noisy") comforting. That's the reason why the developers design events which require characters to remain logged in - they want to give the towns a lively appearance. Do not deceive yourself - the development department will not spend man-hours to adapt the Dragon Year event to the specific situation on NCWest servers. You must change your ways and adapt to the given event, otherwise you will find yourself in a few months in exactly the same situation as right now.
And how do you have to change? Simply disable account creation. That means the RMT sites can no longer create new characters when their old advertisers get deleted, no new bots when the old ones get taken out. And when no new players join the community, you have the leisure to delete the accounts of old players who have been reported for suspicious behavior in the past. Simply work your way back in time, first bot reports from 2011, then from 2010 ... until you have reduced the server populations to around 2000 (Naia has at present 6000). Then, and only then, maybe after a few months, you can reopen Lineage 2 for new players, starting the account deleting procedure again when the online number reaches 3000.
This suggestion is so awesome that I bet NC will ignore it, since it's not good for business to close account creation.
Actually that suggestion is a "joint venture" by Smittie and me. He also deserves some praise :)
All hail Smittie too. I would have given +rep to him too if he had posted :eek:
all my items in magmeld server
disappeared(adena,armor,weapons)but in the warehouse remain element stones and life stonesStrange that Juji hasn't told you to open a support ticket yet. Go open one.
lock the severs and new people cant join. start banning the bots . make new severs . or get sever hard where that handles more people + the events i cant even log my chr in half the time, some people leave to toons on all night scared to try to log back in again high sever traffic bad
In this update the developers have introduced several features which concentrate a considerable part of the server population at certain times in certain places (daily quests, campaigns ...), and even if you increase the server capacity to 10,000 this will not increase the number of monsters in the Frozen Labyrinth or at the Wall of Argos. The current event will be over in one week, but sooner or later your head office in Seoul will send you the Dragon Year event, where people again get items (Little and Big Dragon Eggs) when they are logged in and have the Flame Spirit Agathion summoned: http://power.plaync.co.kr/lineage2/%EB%93%9C%EB%9D%BC%EC%BD%94%EC%9D%98+%ED%83%84%EC% 83%9D
People in Asia like to experience "community" in a bodily sense, they find closely packed places (热闹, as they say in China - "hot and noisy") comforting. That's the reason why the developers design events which require characters to remain logged in - they want to give the towns a lively appearance. Do not deceive yourself - the development department will not spend man-hours to adapt the Dragon Year event to the specific situation on NCWest servers. You must change your ways and adapt to the given event, otherwise you will find yourself in a few months in exactly the same situation as right now.
And how do you have to change? Simply disable account creation. That means the RMT sites can no longer create new characters when their old advertisers get deleted, no new bots when the old ones get taken out. And when no new players join the community, you have the leisure to delete the accounts of old players who have been reported for suspicious behavior in the past. Simply work your way back in time, first bot reports from 2011, then from 2010 ... until you have reduced the server populations to around 2000 (Naia has at present 6000). Then, and only then, maybe after a few months, you can reopen Lineage 2 for new players, starting the account deleting procedure again when the online number reaches 3000.
Totally agree with this, i would just add one function and that is creation on demand during event periods, so that a REAL new player can join his friends on the server they choze.
And how do you have to change? Simply disable account creation. That means the RMT sites can no longer create new characters when their old advertisers get deleted, no new bots when the old ones get taken out. And when no new players join the community, you have the leisure to delete the accounts of old players who have been reported for suspicious behavior in the past. Simply work your way back in time, first bot reports from 2011, then from 2010 ... until you have reduced the server populations to around 2000 (Naia has at present 6000). Then, and only then, maybe after a few months, you can reopen Lineage 2 for new players, starting the account deleting procedure again when the online number reaches 3000.
It is unlikely that account creation will be disabled, even during event times (events are promotional both to existing players and to potential new players). We are, however, focusing on finding ways to reduce the abuse of account creation while still keeping it open to legit users. I cannot discuss details at this time, but I can say that the projects we're working on do look promising on cutting down the issues we've seen surrounding pro-login events like this. I hope to have updates about this to share with you in the near future as the projects are finalized and implemented.
well i might aswell do a post even tho i think no one is gona look at it.
Call GM spam , give him his job back , he will do the BANHAMMER action for you Nc , that GM was the one and only banning bots left and right back in the good ol days.
i know your aware of most things but how long has it been that players bot bot and not to forget bot ... now its free2play , bots dont need cute looking hats for 7 days or xp/rune packs , they just 10101 to 99 and make money selling ig items to legit playing customers that buy your packs and such
everyone can speak ... i think most of us want to see some actions takeing upon the bot issue.
about the event issue . i am curious on how this works . theres walls of lv 1 toons standing in almost every town "naia" and yet for example i get d/ced every 10 to 50 minutes . i personally enjoy this event as its been designed to be enjoyment and i thank you for it but the ncteam shoulda have discussed it further before putting it out and shoulda have made presettings ,
i mean wasnt there someone in the staff that was like well if i was a player and i would like to make easy money then i would just .. ...
oh well, i luv this game , lets see if something happens.
U **** if u afk why u are loged and keep 1 slot for another player? are u braindamaged or what? others want to play. Do u like now that u cant log in while 2k bots are afk last 3 days? if yes good for u i dont. And before u say anything try to write any solution then to say **** about any others opinionDude those bots would nearly instantly log back in after being kicked. Hell they wouldn't even be kicked in the first place because they would do movements or something ever 5 minutes.
Right now about 600 of the people out of 6000 are shops and it's unknown how many of those people are actually afk. The mentor system is at fault for quite a few of those shops as people have to stay logged in AFK to grant buffs. Also adding to the problem are the people who are setting up shops to avoid being d/ced in the first place so they don't have to spend hours to log back in when they decide to play again. This has basically formed a closed feedback loop as more people afk shops to avoid getting kicked and thus eating up more slots that legit players MIGHT have a chance at (bots can hammer the login pretty hard to get in).
IF they cannot add a level requirement to the event then they need to consider canceling the afk aspect early and then re-evaluate future events for the N/A market. A GM running around banning the thousands of afk bots might be a losing battle (forcing them to create new accounts might slow them down a bit) as long as level 1s can exploit the event. If you ban enough of them fast enough they might give up because it's not worth the effort to create the account and then try to get the loot offloaded before the banhammer. It's all about cost effectiveness from the botter's perspective. If you can ban them fast and hard enough they might not find it worth it.
Overall I think a quicker acknowledgement would of allied fears a bit because even I was beginning to think that ncwest had just given up.
EDIT : Honestly NCwest might want to take a look at EVE PLEX and how they pretty much killed RMT in their game. Something as simple as allow players to sell nccoin bought items in game for adena. Runes of EXP would sell quite well in game. This would allow the player base to set the value of adena to real money through a freemarket approach. Why risk being scammed by a RMTer or being banned when you could simply buy a pack of exp scrolls from NCwest and then sell them in game for adena?
Make everyone use the Auction House. auto log out after 15 mins afk. That would help a ton. That is a simple way to help alot. Also, reduce the cost to use the AH. NC , you dont need the Adena, or do you? ....................
Make everyone use the Auction House. auto log out after 15 mins afk. That would help a ton. That is a simple way to help alot. Also, reduce the cost to use the AH. NC , you dont need the Adena, or do you? ....................That would NOT even remotely come close to "helping a ton". There are exactly 664 buy/sell/craft shops open right now. That is less than the amount of bots sitting afk in Talking Island. If you were to kick those 664 people (who are not all AFK) then you would still have a full server. There's very little chance that you would log in faster then a bot would. The bots would be completely unaffected as all they have to do is move once every 10 minutes.
Why you do not make at least 2 restarts /day till you say you`ll find a solution for this,at least will give a chance( for the moment) to people witch could not log for days...
As many of you know, there have been various issues with servers and player experience of the game lately. These include:
Players not being able to log in due to server being at capacity (due to the event, bots, and the high volume of players online in general).
High frequency crashes on Naia this past weekend.
Castle Siege issues on Shilen and Magmeld.
Server crashes being higher in frequency than before we launched Truly Free.
These issues are not necessarily related to each other, but we are covering them all in this post. Although we have not yet found solutions to all of the issues, rest assured that we are aware of them and have been looking for solutions ever since they started. Unfortunately we have not had details to share with you as to how, when or what the various solutions may be at this time. Please do not mistake any lack of daily official response to these matters as a lack of progress or effort. The issues and our search for solutions is ever on-going and we hope you will soon see results of it.
We hope to have some more concrete updates for you as the week goes on.
Why you do not make at least 2 restarts /day till you say you`ll find a solution for this,at least will give a chance( for the moment) to people witch could not log for days...Probably because the bots will log in much quicker than most humans could ever hope for.
nc has always had poor custormer service even when we were paying them.now what woudl be the differences? i have bought those coins from them . but i still feel this isssue hasnt and for a long time wont be address correctly. sure discuss it but for some of us that had pay to play for years... well feels like the game is going to hell . my two cents.
U **** if u afk why u are loged and keep 1 slot for another player? are u braindamaged or what? others want to play. Do u like now that u cant log in while 2k bots are afk last 3 days? if yes good for u i dont. And before u say anything try to write any solution then to say **** about any others opinion
I agree with lineagebum and disagree with you.
Until the auction house allows set sales AND has a lower fee, then the afk shops will and should continue to exist.
Giran has always been a bit of a lag spot. If you don't like it, move on.
Has anyone noticed that since lineage went F2P, the language has gone downhill on the forums.. (I don't mean the written English language as a lot of members don't have English as their first language (and most are very much understandable), I mean the abuse, the flaming, and the feeble attempts at getting round the swear filters.
Grow up kids, it's not smart to swear. It's not big and it's not clever.
The Tersi's Light event = the source of all the problems you just listed.
This event encouraged people to create (thousands of) level 1 characters to sit AFK all day waiting for event items to spawn. No one can log in because all these level 1 characters have maxed out the server character limit. Hello!
True!!! And Sace had right about bots but until problems will be solved, they now invaded Aden:
Or maybe all lvl 1 chars from here discovered how to make xp near gatekeeper? A normal PC will crash after he teleports into them or if someone need to target gatekeeper should search an internet list with the name of gatekeepers from every town soon, because with all this animation will need a lot of free minutes until the npc will load. And yes, i need to be afk to support my mentees that was lucky and could log on server. Until mentoring system won't be changed, i think is not a good idea to disconnect every idle player .
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The Tersi's Light (http://www.lineage2.com/en/news/events/tersis-light.php) event continues, with some changes in schedule! On Chronos and Naia, the event enters its final stage in which Fragments of Light no longer drop. On Shilen, Magmeld, and Bartz the event's main period continues.
This mean that we need to support bots for 1 more week. :(
The fixes today have anything to do with the reported account thefts? I know NC doesn't tend to comment on stuff like that, but I think a lot of ppl would feel better if you announce when/if some fixes are put in place. Thx :cool:
As many of you know, there have been various issues with servers and player experience of the game lately. These include:
Players not being able to log in due to server being at capacity (due to the event, bots, and the high volume of players online in general).
High frequency crashes on Naia this past weekend.
Castle Siege issues on Shilen and Magmeld.
Server crashes being higher in frequency than before we launched Truly Free.
These issues are not necessarily related to each other, but we are covering them all in this post. Although we have not yet found solutions to all of the issues, rest assured that we are aware of them and have been looking for solutions ever since they started. Unfortunately we have not had details to share with you as to how, when or what the various solutions may be at this time. Please do not mistake any lack of daily official response to these matters as a lack of progress or effort. The issues and our search for solutions is ever on-going and we hope you will soon see results of it.
We hope to have some more concrete updates for you as the week goes on.
Temporarily freezing account creation for chronos and naia and then working to address all reported bots there would have fixed the issue within a week.
we know there is a problem and we are working on it but we cant tell you what we are doing you just have to trust us
This is not the first time you have said this. Indeed, a quick look through your own personal posting history paints a pretty clear picture: you rarely have anything useful to say, and even when you claim to be working on something you profusely topologist and say you cant tell us how that work is being done. How very convenient to hide your work in secrecy.
You know there are problems? Good for you. A competent team would have predicted these problems before hand and addressed them before they became a serious issue for their customer base. You have the audacity to sell runes that continue to tick off while players cant play. You could have fixed that issue by simply making them only tick down while online but then you wouldn't sell as many. Your motives are as transparent as your excuses. It is my opinion that you and your team are either grossly incompetent, or grossly understaffed. Neither are acceptable if you wish to continue to make money. F2p gave your company a second chance, stop throwing it down the toilet.
If you have an XP rune that is ticking during this mess then I suggest you send in a ticket requesting a replacement. NCwest does appear to be making good on that aspect.
The fixes today have anything to do with the reported account thefts? I know NC doesn't tend to comment on stuff like that, but I think a lot of ppl would feel better if you announce when/if some fixes are put in place. Thx :cool:
If you're referring to the forum fixes (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=228714) that occurred today, no, they do not affect anything that could be related to possible account thievery. Research into increased security measures is a separate on-going project.
Sace or anyone else.
Alot of people are getting disconnected if you are afk for 30 minutes give or take.
Not all, but many that I know.
Is that a server issue also or just something random?
Thanks,
We haven't seen confirmed server issues on our end. What server are you referring to?
If you're referring to the forum fixes (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=228714) that occurred today, no, they do not affect anything that could be related to possible account thievery. Research into increased security measures is a separate on-going project.
We haven't seen confirmed server issues on our end. What server are you referring to?
Chronos
I actually thought it was a home issue, until people in clan started complaining about it. Then I travel for work also and am currently out of town and it has done it to me 3 times today. I just gave up trying to get back in. lol
I actually thought it was a home issue, until people in clan started complaining about it. Then I travel for work also and am currently out of town and it has done it to me 3 times today. I just gave up trying to get back in. lol
We're certain there is no issue with the server, so it's likely there is some sort of intermittent internet connection issue that may be affecting a large population of players. If you want to discuss it further, please create a thread in the General Technical Discussion forum, or contact the support team.
EDIT : Honestly NCwest might want to take a look at EVE PLEX and how they pretty much killed RMT in their game. Something as simple as allow players to sell nccoin bought items in game for adena. Runes of EXP would sell quite well in game. This would allow the player base to set the value of adena to real money through a freemarket approach. Why risk being scammed by a RMTer or being banned when you could simply buy a pack of exp scrolls from NCwest and then sell them in game for adena?
Eve, IMHO, did a great job of planning ahead and fixing this problem before it started. I don't think I've ever seen a bot when running around the EVE universe (though I admittedly only saw a small portion of it, but you can't go ten seconds in L2 without an RMT shout coming out). They only thing in Eve were the scams, and if you had any kind of moxy you could avoid those easily (just don't believe anything you see in Jita chat). Plus, Eve runs 30-50k players on one server cluster with fewer lag spikes than any L2 server, has a stable player-run economy, and a global marketplace, all with last generation game code. NCSoft could stand to learn a lot from CCP, if they gave a **** about westerners (which they don't, so it's kind of a moot point).
We're certain there is no issue with the server, so it's likely there is some sort of intermittent internet connection issue that may be affecting a large population of players. If you want to discuss it further, please create a thread in the General Technical Discussion forum, or contact the support team.
I'll do it.
There are a couple of thread there already, just no one answered.
Eve, IMHO, did a great job of planning ahead and fixing this problem before it started. I don't think I've ever seen a bot when running around the EVE universe (though I admittedly only saw a small portion of it, but you can't go ten seconds in L2 without an RMT shout coming out). They only thing in Eve were the scams, and if you had any kind of moxy you could avoid those easily (just don't believe anything you see in Jita chat). Plus, Eve runs 30-50k players on one server cluster with fewer lag spikes than any L2 server, has a stable player-run economy, and a global marketplace, all with last generation game code. NCSoft could stand to learn a lot from CCP, if they gave a **** about westerners (which they don't, so it's kind of a moot point).
Though I disagree and disprove NCWests lack of comitment or comprehension towards bots/rtms, you really stretching the common sense in your statement.
I actually swapped EVE for L2 seven years ago.
Yes, EVE is amazing game on many levels, but it's a different type game.
CCP are able to monitor and modify EVE on the fly, which sometimes comes a cost.
Regarding 50k server, EVE world is a connection of multiple clusters. Design, that allow for more total capacity but have same issues as any other game - lots of people in same place at the same time. I dont remember any mass pvp in EVE where you have 200+ people in single system and have no lag/freezes. L2 300vs300 sieges. This is a bottleneck for every single MMO, there have not been any technological breakthrough in this department for very long time.
L2 was a definition when it came out, with hundreds of clone games after it.
Anyway....ban the botters!!!!!!!!!!
ps- where do I sign up to become a GM, couldn't find job applications for that. Means those positions are full? Well, they do a lame job, obviously.
Temporarily freezing account creation for chronos and naia and then working to address all reported bots there would have fixed the issue within a week.
This is not the first time you have said this. Indeed, a quick look through your own personal posting history paints a pretty clear picture: you rarely have anything useful to say, and even when you claim to be working on something you profusely topologist and say you cant tell us how that work is being done. How very convenient to hide your work in secrecy.
You know there are problems? Good for you. A competent team would have predicted these problems before hand and addressed them before they became a serious issue for their customer base. You have the audacity to sell runes that continue to tick off while players cant play. You could have fixed that issue by simply making them only tick down while online but then you wouldn't sell as many. Your motives are as transparent as your excuses. It is my opinion that you and your team are either grossly incompetent, or grossly understaffed. Neither are acceptable if you wish to continue to make money. F2p gave your company a second chance, stop throwing it down the toilet.
i am game for that too , Hire me nc, i am serious , i Hammer them bots quicker then you can say hottubtimemachine :DI imagine being a GM would require more then just blanket bans on your part. You would have to create a document trail proving beyond a doubt those you banned were botting. That takes quite a bit of time and effort.
Though I disagree and disprove NCWests lack of comitment or comprehension towards bots/rtms, you really stretching the common sense in your statement.
Meh. If you call my post "stretching common sense," some of the other posts here must be redefining physics as we know it. :)
I dont remember any mass pvp in EVE where you have 200+ people in single system and have no lag/freezes.
They do have fairly large fleet battles in Eve, like 50 on 50 ships, maybe more, with drones and fighters. And yes, they do have lag problems.
But that wasn't my real point. I was talking about how the RL sale of PLEX has helped ease RMTs and botting/farming ingame (as it relates to amassing wealth to sell for real world money). Maybe NC should look at selling in-game trade-able items for RL money and make it the official and sanctioned way of acquiring adena for RL cash. It'll still happen one way or another, but this way: a) it's monitored and b) NC makes the money instead of shady Chinese and Eastern European organizations (several of which have suspected criminal connections).
I imagine being a GM would require more then just blanket bans on your part. You would have to create a document trail proving beyond a doubt those you banned were botting. That takes quite a bit of time and effort.
document : banned character cuz the player did not respond to me for 10 minutes while he/she was just mad grinding away .
ps- where do I sign up to become a GM, couldn't find job applications for that.
Available NCsoft jobs can be found here (http://us.ncsoft.com/en/jobs/index.html). However, many entry-jobs are filled through recruitment and staffing agencies, and listings for those are more likely to be found on staffing agencies' websites or classifieds like Craigslist.
Craigslist for hire's... explains alot. No offense to you Sace just doesn't seem like reputable place to look for job applicants.
Available NCsoft jobs can be found here (http://us.ncsoft.com/en/jobs/index.html). However, many entry-jobs are filled through recruitment and staffing agencies, and listings for those are more likely to be found on staffing agencies' websites or classifieds like Craigslist.
LOL, if NCsoft does anything about these issues ever, it'll be the first time they cared since I started playing in C2. Why Lie to us Sace, no GM cares about the game, you dont put any effort into answer our questions or applying solutions. players give you awesome solutions , and hell you could take solutions from WoW or other mmo's, make a timer so if your logged in with no activity after awhile you get kicked, or make your ******ed system of mentee and mentor work even if the mentor isnt logged in. Simple solutions yet Ncsoft will never apply them , all it shows is a lack of caring , and bad management you all should be fired for failing at your jobs as GM's
I can´t play in NAIA server:mad:. How long do I have wait for play in NAIA server:confused: This is a shame!!:(
BOT BOT BOT...
I've given up on Lineage II after enjoying it for 4 years as subscription based MMO. Shame NCSoft FAILS on maintaining the EULA and actually punish the bots...
We're certain there is no issue with the server, so it's likely there is some sort of intermittent internet connection issue that may be affecting a large population of players. If you want to discuss it further, please create a thread in the General Technical Discussion forum, or contact the support team.
It was such a large internet issue that only my level 1 shop is getting disconnected even though its running on the same computer as my main which I play without issue. HMMMM.
I've given up on Lineage II after enjoying it for 4 years as subscription based MMO. Shame NCSoft FAILS on maintaining the EULA and actually punish the bots...
...time to move on...
Don't let the door hit you in the *** on your way out...thanks for your money...oh wait it's FREE TO PLAY...better luck at getting your way at Burger King!
If you're referring to the forum fixes (http://boards.lineage2.com/showthread.php?t=228714) that occurred today, no, they do not affect anything that could be related to possible account thievery. Research into increased security measures is a separate on-going project.
We haven't seen confirmed server issues on our end. What server are you referring to?
Sace am sorry...ban me if you want...but WAKE UP!!!(not only you..and the other Gms)Oh My God!!you dont see that the whole think its a nuclear catastrophe??look...just make a poll...in the one side write Goddess Of Destruction...and in the other.. The Chaotic Throne...let us vote...but make it clear that this poll will be appeared to EVERYONE!!!and let your people deside...you will see...they all prefer the old l2...suck it up and look through THE BLACK!
It would seem there are new issues now. Can't log on after disconnect; can't get past the server window, in Chronos or Bartz. Did manage to get on Chronos last night on first try, after not being able to get on for about 30 hours.
look...just make a poll...in the one side write Goddess Of Destruction...and in the other.. The Chaotic Throne...let us vote...but make it clear that this poll will be appeared to EVERYONE!!!and let your people deside...you will see...they all prefer the old l2...suck it up and look through THE BLACK!
NOT TRUE! Me and a lot of other people enjoy GoD with its updates. The single thing that i am not enjoy is the fact i can't play without lags.
Really? I am not speaking about latency wich i didn't had any problems until event; i am speaking about summoning healing tree after few seconds (because i'm a healer class)even that reuse of skill appear imediatly after i pressed, or sometimes i had 4 trees summoned(i can post print) :eek::eek::eek::eek: and almost every half hour appeared 1 more tree that refuse to dissapear. You think battleping resolve this problem??? Since when BP resolve npc lag? You know what means to press ballance skill multiple times and nothing happens and after that people have balance without see animation?? You know that i must predict and use skill before the things happens? Probably you don't know, but come on Naia and see.
The only thing than i can talk about this. I HATE PLAY WITH LAG!!!
I upgrade the RAM of my pc thinking than this is a problem, but the tradind this event itens was the real problem causing this **** lag. I can't play this way. What i will do? No login until the event end?
BOTS - Gms need to activly gm the servers i mean other games and privates keep this down by activly governing their servers. or just use a programme/ software that stops anyone with 3rd party pragrammes logging in
EVENT - ok so you stopped it a week early but you left the componant active that was causing the issue loads of lvl 1 -15 chars with agathions logged in when they are not even ever gonna be played again
MENTOR/MENTEE - dont get me wrong i am a mentee myself and i love my mentor being logged in but surely there are other ways around it. Maybe code so the mentor NPC gives buffs providing the recipricant has all the relevent componants. Maybe MENTOR's should not be punished for a mentee leaving but the mentee itself coz as the current system stands a mentee can flit from one to another while the mentor is left with a number of days penalty coz they couldnt log in due to high server traffic.
PK SYSTEM - this new system is ******ed in my opinion, if some one is KS, GRIEFING, BOTTING you would have PKed or opened PVP gone and dekarmerd and done sineater quest to stop you dropping items and there would be one less bot around. NOW you go red it takes pure hours to remove rep u dont exp and you might as well reroll a new char especially when PK was not intentional i.e you one shot someone who being an idiot in a area they really shouldnt be for there lvl, and forget killing a bot you just gotta watch them. Removing your choice makes play less interactive than more. I know it supposed to be a community game but its got so namby pamby its rediculous.
OFFLINE SHOPS - just turn it back on and allow offline shops will keep lag down in towns and on server
No PTS ( spit in the face of the old users, i fill sorry for them).
Thousand of Bots
Adena, chars, equipment sellers.
Hackers / Scammers (to many people is new here, and others are just kids and they suffer the scams more often that the older players)Is not fair.
Bad events
No active response from NC (actions in game).
Abuse of ment. system & and scam with this issue
Bugs on awakened chars
Bad managment of link resources, hardware specifically.
Bad pk system in a pvp game.
Bad ingame auctioneer system (and with bugs)
Really slow response in forums, we need information about your hard work, no questions that we wrote in many threads.
See please adena drops past 85+, some teleports cost 150k.
My teleports, coctails and others things are to expensive.
Limitations in the use of vitaliy refilling items , and maintenance jars is just ridiculous.
(no to mention the scam of 1/7 recharge on refilling items saved in H5).
I know that "free" things cost "much" that those with an open price.
But please give us some air here.
To many problems for just a GAME.
Please dont come here to say ohhh we are looking for help to attend well our own job.
Supposedly you manage a big MMORPG more of 7 years.
Sorry if i am breaking forum rules here, but after almost a year here, i feel unattended.
(Gracias por todo a los jugadores, especialmente a los mas antiguos, que me ayudaron mucho./Thanks for everything to the players, specially to the oldest, cause you helpme a lot)
MENTOR/MENTEE - dont get me wrong i am a mentee myself and i love my mentor being logged in but surely there are other ways around it. Maybe code so the mentor NPC gives buffs providing the recipricant has all the relevent componants. Maybe MENTOR's should not be punished for a mentee leaving but the mentee itself coz as the current system stands a mentee can flit from one to another while the mentor is left with a number of days penalty coz they couldnt log in due to high server traffic.
I agree with you, penalties should be balanced, if mentor leaves, mentor gets penalty, if mentee leaves, mentee gets penalty. Also, each time a mentee leveled up, he should receive some sort of reward to keep him motivated (not talking about path to awakening reward here).
PK SYSTEM - this new system is ******ed in my opinion, if some one is KS, GRIEFING, BOTTING you would have PKed or opened PVP gone and dekarmerd and done sineater quest to stop you dropping items and there would be one less bot around. NOW you go red it takes pure hours to remove rep u dont exp and you might as well reroll a new char especially when PK was not intentional i.e you one shot someone who being an idiot in a area they really shouldnt be for there lvl, and forget killing a bot you just gotta watch them. Removing your choice makes play less interactive than more. I know it supposed to be a community game but its got so namby pamby its rediculous.
Honestly, the higher level you are, the easier it is to clean it up... Don't see any problem there lol. If you are 70+ you clean like 8 - 12 karma per mob, and if you are 85+ you clean 25 - 30 karma per mob... So the higher you are the more karma you clean, You only drop gear when you have 31+ pk's, so I don't see what's the big deal there.
OFFLINE SHOPS - just turn it back on and allow offline shops will keep lag down in towns and on server
That's why you have auction house, 10k is not much, and you can sell anything lol.
That's why you have auction house, 10k is not much, and you can sell anything lol.
well, if you want to sell crap or minor items, you are right. but im not willing to pay a fee (no refund if item is not saled) of ~18kk per item (which is about 80% of the profit). to save such an amount, everyone would sit down his fatty *** and will make a usal vendor instead of using the auction house. so i will continue to box my vendors - like the majority did the past years.
well, if you want to sell crap or minor items, you are right. but im not willing to pay a fee (no refund if item is not saled) of ~18kk per item (which is about 80% of the profit). to save such an amount, everyone would sit down his fatty *** and will make a usal vendor instead of using the auction house. so i will continue to box my vendors - like the majority did the past years.
every single item i've sold including items on the 20kk price tag, all got 10k fee...
odd.... on chronos my fee was over 1m for selling 30m item.
Thanks to players that actually sell on auction b/c I do purchas items for good prices from it. I will never use it myself b/c of the non refundable, high priced, rediculous charges. I might change my mind if the auction time limit was extended a bit.
Thank you Nc for the Truly Free Lineage actualy you become worst than the private servers :D
Enjoy....
Tera started Beta... you see i rather pay to play than free to dont play and posting in forums
c ya all around guys gl
The following things have been touched on very briefly, here, and I think between them, they hold the solution to the problems NCWest is experiencing:
1) RMT's. Start selling at least a few items in the NC Store that can be traded. This will allow the PEOPLE WHO PLAY your game the ability to set and regulate the game's economy. As stated previously in this thread, this has virtually eliminated RMT spam in EVE Online, and I can name several other games it works in, as well.
2) EVENT LIMITATIONS. Either make it so that you can't trade event items, or so that you need to be a certain level to begin participating in events. The better of these two options is DEFINITELY to make it so you can't trade scavenged items (in this case, Specter of Light and Fragment of Light). By all means, you should still be able to trade the rewards. The items you have to scavenge to receive said rewards, however, should not be able to be traded.
3) MENTOR, CLAN LEADER, AND OTHER BUFFS THAT REQUIRE A TOON BE LOGGED IN TO RECEIVE. I really have no idea what you guys were thinking here. There are buffs your clanmates can only get if the clan leader is logged in. THIS leads to clan leaders staying logged in from up-from-maintenance to down-for-maintenance so members of their clan will get the buff(s). The same thing for mentors. Mentees can only get the buff if their mentor is logged in, so mentors just stay logged in. I've always liked that L2 doesn't boot you for going idle, but that doesn't change the fact that it's causing a HUGE problem right now, and will continue to cause a HUGE problem for as long as we have these bot issues.
If you picked, presented to NCWest, and implemented any TWO of these perfectly reasonable suggestions, it would clear up 80% of the problems the people who pay you to do your job are upset about (your customers. NC doesn't pay you, YOUR CUSTOMERS do). If you implemented all three, your problems would all but clear-up, entirely.
Auction system is one of a very few things that I like about GoD.
I've been unable to make sufficient money in game over the past years due to inability to run overnight shops, now I'm enjoying the fact I sell my items within a few hours.
odd.... on chronos my fee was over 1m for selling 30m item.
Thanks to players that actually sell on auction b/c I do purchas items for good prices from it. I will never use it myself b/c of the non refundable, high priced, rediculous charges. I might change my mind if the auction time limit was extended a bit.
I guess you are one of those who'd run an afk shop with stupidly overpriced items for months, hoping that someone even more stupid would bump into your shop eventually and buy something.
Well, here's a tip: check everyone else's price on the item you're going to auction, set your price at the minimum, and you'll get your item sold within a couple days, at the expense of a rather small fee.
Seriously, and I demand a refund for it. This is stupid, you can't effectively level at all without shots. Waste of $15 at this point and its completely unacceptable.
I'm in the exact same situation...I'm waiting for a time add-on on my runes, or at least refund me half of the ncoins, because right now, I can't exp without bsss, so...wasted time = wasted money. And I will not pay for anything else again, if they do not refund (at least parcially) what I've spent on the rune.
haven't seen that movie yet, is it good? should i consider going?
maybe after dinner.
if you liked the first one then you should like the 2nd,you can d\l it on torrent but the best quality atm is 720p TS,better go to cinema if you like high quality (for me doesnt really matter)
1st movie was a waste of time. 2hs? what for? they could have done it in 50 mins, plot was kindergarten level.
As for the 2nd i won't even waste time, simply because it has nothing to do with Sherlock Holmes, they just put that name to get views might as well call it "junkie karate man solves mysteries"
Hollywood is going down hill since 2000's.
As for topic, i quote my favorite mod; "i don't care"
As a paying costumer, I think I got the right to complain when something goes broke and makes me un-able to use PROPERLY what I've paid for. So yes, I'm expecting something to be done about this. I got the rune I paid for, but I would not have paid for it If I knew that this was going to happen while my rune was active.
As a paying costumer, I think I got the right to complain when something goes broke and makes me un-able to use PROPERLY what I've paid for. So yes, I'm expecting something to be done about this. I got the rune I paid for, but I would not have paid for it If I knew that this was going to happen while my rune was active.
you bought a xp rune and you got it, you dont bought a kill faster rune ;)
He also does not bought a lag/no-shot rune, so your argument is invalid.
Sorry but I disagree, if he came on the forums to keep up to date rather than just b*tch about the game service he would of seen there was problems in the announcements he would not have wasted his money and our time smashing his argument into pieces.
I've losted about two days of Nevits 100% -7day , and Rune 50% XP. Because of the SS lag and maintence... I want to know if ncsoft will do something about that?
They posted that they are waiting on a fix from the Koreans. I wouldn't hold my breath about the runes but you can always try submitting a support petition through the website to ask them to compensate you for part of the time.
Wait listen up. OFC there are problems we all have problems in this world and we dont expect to be immune 100% to problems right. What I do care about is since we are long time customers, how will we be compensated. I want to know what goodies we are gonna get out of this moment.
Let's not forget ncsoft do usually give out goodies when players go through some hard times. So be patient and let's just hope we are compensated well enough to keep our mouths shut and makes us turn around and say "yeah it was worth the wait and stress". Remember nothing comes free in this world and heaven doesn't exist if hell is not around.
Sorry but I disagree, if he came on the forums to keep up to date rather than just b*tch about the game service he would of seen there was problems in the announcements he would not have wasted his money and our time smashing his argument into pieces.
Read the full topic 15 times (15 is my tip) and u will understand why he can "b*tch about the game service".
It's good to do something about nevit's and rune, Im not the only one who is worried about it... I can see a lot of people worried about it in forum and in game...anyway Ive sended my petition...
Read the full topic 15 times (15 is my tip) and u will understand why he can "b*tch about the game service".
FYI I can read.. Just putting that out there... If you read what I put you would understand where I am coming from... I know this because I was planning on getting 50% for my sub class... the first thing I did was check the forums to get an update of the situation... It not being fixed meant I did not buy the 50% XP which then meant I don't have to b*tch over something that was his fault..
1) There was server issues yesterday
2) There was emergency maintenance
3) The emergency maintenance did not resolve the issue
These three things alone would cause anyone in the right mind to check the forums before going to spend real money in the L2 Store
So what? They will fix it soon or just QQ and sleep? I Just need to know what to do.. Admin failed or he don't cares about players? :confused:
You talk as if this is a private server with some overweight kid sitting in his basement running a crappy java based system on a DSL connection waiting for donations. :D
When they are able to fox the problem they will say so, until then just submit a ticket and hopfully you will be compensated for the time lost on your XP Rune.
You talk as if this is a private server with some overweight kid sitting in his basement running a crappy java based system on a DSL connection waiting for donations. :D
When they are able to fox the problem they will say so, until then just submit a ticket and hopfully you will be compensated for the time lost on your XP Rune.
+1
They already said they will look into compensating players once the issue is resolved.
+1
They already said they will look into compensating players once the issue is resolved.
Problem is people will continue to cry and open more topics about the same thing thinking it will actually speed up the process.
To the topic of an older chronicle:
Am I the only one around here who remembers the good old C4 days and thinks that back then the game was way better balanced? And no lag issues..Easy bot killing (new PK system "rocks").. Don't get me wrong - there are some really great ideas the game itself now, but the actual pvp? I would also give a vote for one of the older Chronics.
Ontopic:
The lag really sucks.. Can't move or target mobs properly, not even talking about anything more complex like using shots :) Not to be pushy or anything, but an approx. date of when thinking to fix the problems would be awesome.. Just so we'd know if we should keep checking every couple of hours :)
FYI I can read.. Just putting that out there... If you read what I put you would understand where I am coming from... I know this because I was planning on getting 50% for my sub class... the first thing I did was check the forums to get an update of the situation... It not being fixed meant I did not buy the 50% XP which then meant I don't have to b*tch over something that was his fault..
1) There was server issues yesterday
2) There was emergency maintenance
3) The emergency maintenance did not resolve the issue
These three things alone would cause anyone in the right mind to check the forums before going to spend real money in the L2 Store
No, you can't read. You still haven't worked out that they're using 7 day runes, which they had bought before the problems even started.
I have noticed a huge drop in the bot population as well as the players in my primary lvling area, mainly the Alters Swamp Area. I been getting by just fine with intermittent soul shots usage.
NCSoft should give the players back the Runes (thank god I haven't used mine because of the event :P and now this) But I also think they should do like a Double XP Weekend again for all the other players that we're not able to login (Wasn't one of the players "Spammed the login servers") but I think some complication should be given to all the players that have been effected atleast level 20 players and higher my opinion...
Just make a macro to load shots before it loads whichever attack is on the next line of your macro...
If you have to go to lengths like that to play a game then you need some serious mental help. :D
Double Exp Week would be interesting for real players, but much more for BOTS =\, they could do an event like this, but they need to decrease the bots in server or we'll have more high traffic
The following things have been touched on very briefly, here, and I think between them, they hold the solution to the problems NCWest is experiencing:
1) RMT's. Start selling at least a few items in the NC Store that can be traded. This will allow the PEOPLE WHO PLAY your game the ability to set and regulate the game's economy. As stated previously in this thread, this has virtually eliminated RMT spam in EVE Online, and I can name several other games it works in, as well.
2) EVENT LIMITATIONS. Either make it so that you can't trade event items, or so that you need to be a certain level to begin participating in events. The better of these two options is DEFINITELY to make it so you can't trade scavenged items (in this case, Specter of Light and Fragment of Light). By all means, you should still be able to trade the rewards. The items you have to scavenge to receive said rewards, however, should not be able to be traded.
3) MENTOR, CLAN LEADER, AND OTHER BUFFS THAT REQUIRE A TOON BE LOGGED IN TO RECEIVE. I really have no idea what you guys were thinking here. There are buffs your clanmates can only get if the clan leader is logged in. THIS leads to clan leaders staying logged in from up-from-maintenance to down-for-maintenance so members of their clan will get the buff(s). The same thing for mentors. Mentees can only get the buff if their mentor is logged in, so mentors just stay logged in. I've always liked that L2 doesn't boot you for going idle, but that doesn't change the fact that it's causing a HUGE problem right now, and will continue to cause a HUGE problem for as long as we have these bot issues.
If you picked, presented to NCWest, and implemented any TWO of these perfectly reasonable suggestions, it would clear up 80% of the problems the people who pay you to do your job are upset about (your customers. NC doesn't pay you, YOUR CUSTOMERS do). If you implemented all three, your problems would all but clear-up, entirely.
Which can NCWest actually accomplish? As in physical possibility? #1 seems likely, as I think they run the store and can put soulshots, runestones, or some sort of universally used consumable (ala PLEX) for sale. #2 and #3 seems doubtful as they would appear to require a change to actual game code, which I don't think NCWest has access to.
#2 and #3 seems doubtful as they would appear to require a change to actual game code, which I don't think NCWest has access to.
I find this highly doubtful. I can't imagine leaving a team of people in charge of an operation this size, and not give them the tools they need to fix problems as they come up.
*shrug* tbh, I'm not having too much trouble doing anything on Bartz... It's fairly lagged, and SS misfire here and there, but I'm still chugging along at a nice pace...
NCSOFT its simple when you make a change that has a negative impact you undo that change until you can fix the issue the right way, its called a "backout plan". GOD!
Two deaths, countless over purchases... Thank you for reintroducing the classic NCSoft lag for all the noobs. Love that patch its the friggin best event ever!! Whoohoo!
Well.. I tried playing last night and I couldn't even move properly without lag.. It was all good this morning though. Was playing Bartz and my timezone is GMT+2
There is still soul shot lag on the Chronos Server - and I would venture to guess on the other servers, too.
Yes, I am really unhappy now. Only by a certain amount of otherworldly grace am I withholding the liberal use of expletives followed by extremely painful and derogatory insults.
I am particularly perturbed because I did buy "stuff" from the L2store; and because the server(s) continue to have soul shot lag, it makes it impossible to really put to use any of the items purchased from your store. I didn't buy a 7 day hat. I didn't buy a 7 day mount. I bought 7 day XP runes, which are now going to waste, dwindling down, because the characters that use them are not able to use soul shots - except once every 30 seconds.
This is really unacceptable. If you guys can sell stuff in the L2Store, surely you can devote some time into fixing this problem on the servers.
There is still soul shot lag on the Chronos Server - and I would venture to guess on the other servers, too.
Uhm...no? On Naia there's nothing like that, me and my friends can use shots and items right fine.
There is a chance that the server will be able to be back in normal state today ?
Playing with 20-25s delay for some items (like Soulschots....) is horrible.
PLZ give some news about your PATCH !
Put the hot pocket down and fix it..
Read some of the threads already discussing this issue and you discover they CAN'T fix this issue themselves, they are waiting for the Korean developers to look into it.
Yet another person who posts before checking first.
When I logged off yesterday I was still having shot lag, although it did improve for a few minutes from 30 seconds to about 3 seconds between shots. I'm hoping it's fixed by the time I get home today.
It's not that NC isn't doing anything about it, it looks like they don't have the power on our side to do anything about it if they are waiting for Dev team.
You can stop wishing they brought the servers down too, because then this forum would be flooded with even more ppl crying about how the servers are down now.
It's not that NC isn't doing anything about it, it looks like they don't have the power on our side to do anything about it if they are waiting for Dev team.
Exactly, they are probably just as annoyed about whats happened as we are.
Regarding the lag issue on all servers, we are currently testing a possible fix. If it clears, we will likely implement it today. If not, a new one must be requested. Either way, we will update you later today as news comes in.
/crosses fingers!
They broke all kinds of stuff in last patch, don't expect complete fixes until next wed. Then if still messed up they will do anther emergency patch on wed. If nothing by then; wait until wed after that lol...
Because that's the only time the one man team opens the closest door that these (need to be shot) servers are in...
Many people are having delay issues. Everything from hitting play...to moving, and executing moves. 1-2sec delay.
But thats ok right? Because everyone's Cruma is back up *cough
Yea i have to agree, I understand that it can take some time to get bugs worked out. I mean hey its lineage 2 if you have been around as long as i you are use to this, However i think there should be some sort of compensation for this. Since i to bought the 7 day rune pack, as well as buff pots / scrolls and not being able to use them properly for more then half an hour a day. i decided to try doing my level 79/80 epic quests. but hey guess what? By the time i get to the last part of the quest i have to kill a crap load of mobs in 30 minutes or so. and wouldnt you know it. No SS means i failed the dungeon so yea im kinda screwed either way.
So yes i say if you cant get this problem fixed before next wednesday i better receive alot of extra items, birthday pots, nc coins. etc or i better get 4 free levels. for not being able to gring to 85 by wednesday like i should have been able to if it wasnt for your screw up on the last update
When are you guys at NCSoft going to fix the stupid server....you decided last Wed (Jan 11th) to remove the fragments of light from game and ya ended up screwing up the server so bad ...we have to play with tons of lag and 20-30 secs of delays. You say you are working "Diligently" on the problem but from what i can see....nothings getting done about it.......FIX THE ISSUES WITH THE SERVER FOR GODS SAKE... and one more thing.....anyone that has made a new account since the release of GoD.......move em to a new server and gimmie back my server i been playing on for 7 years so i can frigging login on siege day ( had ya thought about it before releasing GoD you would have know there were going to be ppl coming back to the game when it went F2P and they could have been the "Mentees" for the rest of the ppl)...oh yeah and yet 1 more thing.......FIX THE SERVER, FIX THE SERVER AND UMMMM.....FIX THE SERVER....I of course am talking about CHRONOS.......did i say .....FIX THE SERVER!!!!!!!!! :( :confused: :mad: :eek:
Regarding the lag issue on all servers, we are currently testing a possible fix. If it clears, we will likely implement it today. If not, a new one must be requested. Either way, we will update you later today as news comes in.
/crosses fingers!
took you 4 days for 1 fix?............
its end of the day now!
you said today your gonna fix it,how hard is it to fix soul shots?
its not rocket science
It's pretty funny, I went from not being able to login to able to login just fine but not be able to play :) All I do is shop in giran and spend what little adena I have :P
Regarding the lag issue on all servers, we are currently testing a possible fix. If it clears, we will likely implement it today. If not, a new one must be requested. Either way, we will update you later today as news comes in.
/crosses fingers!
I'm seeing so many frantic posts about not being able to play properly, and I can't understand why these people cannot go find something else to occupy their time. I doubt it very much that the game is the ONLY activity they enjoy.
If, then, it is not the case that the servers are currently functioning people should accept this is as an immediately inevitable circumstance and come to the understanding that complaining or getting frustrated will not solve the issue NCSOFT is currently facing. And, they should try to understand that NC WEST cannot implement changes to code (I'm safely assuming), and as such are in a position where they need to wait for the game programmers to produce a working fix for the game. Becoming frantic is a waste of energy, and asking NCSOFT to "FIX THE SERVER, FIX THE SERVER AND UMMMM.....FIX THE SERVER....I of course am talking about CHRONOS.......did i say .....FIX THE SERVER!!!!!!!!! is essentially asking them to fix the problem half-***'ed, which is not beneficial for anyone.
Regarding the lag issue on all servers, we are currently testing a possible fix. If it clears, we will likely implement it today. If not, a new one must be requested. Either way, we will update you later today as news comes in.
/crosses fingers!
Differences between attention with players by NCSoft America and Innova.
Attention to date that Innova has detected the problem and start search by solve it in first post.
Is possible that NCSoft American dont knew since 1.5.12 that the SS lag issue exist????????????:mad:
U **** if u afk why u are loged and keep 1 slot for another player? are u braindamaged or what? others want to play. Do u like now that u cant log in while 2k bots are afk last 3 days? if yes good for u i dont. And before u say anything try to write any solution then to say **** about any others opinion
You miss the point of afk. If he is a mentor and he has 3 mentees on-line they need their mantor to be on-line to give them buffs and the exp bonus and the shops are very usefull though they should have a city only for that and not allow the sellers to be everywhere, also kick the stupid adena spammers AND REMOVE THAT STUPID AND RIDICULOUS EVENT THATS THE ROOT OF THE PROBLEM IF U CANT SEE THAT THEN UR A BLIND MAN AND STOP RAGING ON THING U DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT THEM.
P.S. CAPS are not for yelling or me raging is just the important part of post.
Curious as to how everything can be fine one day, such as yesterday, Bartz was fine, and Chronos had lag issues until late in the evening, and today both are crippled by lag, making them unplayable. The lag in Bartz seems to be related to soulshots, while in Chronos, it is everything, with a delay of 6 to 8 seconds. Is it likely that this will be the case at least until the next server maintenance? Why not shut it down until it can be fixed? It sin't playable as it is.
U **** if u afk why u are loged and keep 1 slot for another player? are u braindamaged or what? others want to play. Do u like now that u cant log in while 2k bots are afk last 3 days? if yes good for u i dont. And before u say anything try to write any solution then to say **** about any others opinion
Odd, I have no problem loggin in my 6 accounts and having them just sit there afk.
No point trying to kill stuff since SS dont work lol.
Regarding the lag issue on all servers, we are currently testing a possible fix. If it clears, we will likely implement it today. If not, a new one must be requested. Either way, we will update you later today as news comes in.
/crosses fingers!
3rd day after the maintenance of DOOM and situations on Bartz is still messed up I cant enchant I cant search on auction I cant buy I cant open my wh I cant use SHOTS!!! for how long is this going to continue??? do something about it already what's the prob??? we r a few days before siege and ppl cant progress like this they sit on town w8ing for something to change and nothing did till now so can tell us when this is going to stop??? that's not the image ppl expect from official servers that's worst than privates..
Days end at different times around the world; here it is almost 3:30pm. We are still in process of testing a potential fix and if it goes well we'll have good news for you very soon.
Why did Innova get Fix for this lag issue before NC West ?
Because they had like two weeks of SS-lag.
Actually, the Innova issue was soulshots-only. Our issue is server lag in a more extreme way that affects not only soulshots but many other things. Thus, our issue is entirely separate and their fix would not work for us. This is why it's been taking a couple of days to pinpoint the problem, create a fix, test it, create another if the first fails, test it, etc...
Days end at different times around the world; here it is almost 3:30pm. We are still in process of testing a potential fix and if it goes well we'll have good news for you very soon.
Actually, the Innova issue was soulshots-only. Our issue is server lag in a more extreme way that affects not only soulshots but many other things. Thus, our issue is entirely separate and their fix would not work for us. This is why it's been taking a couple of days to pinpoint the problem, create a fix, test it, create another if the first fails, test it, etc...
What about those that did get and used a 7day pack of something. was that just a wast of money?