Server Maintenance - 1 - 18 - 2012

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Temporaly solution for PMB

Block from firewall the outgoing connection from firewall :)

Install Pando
Patch on wednesday
Deinstall Pando / Delete Pando folder

Run launcher or l2.bin (rename exe)
Both won't look for Pando.
profit!!
hope this gets fixed soon hate to lose more time on my xp runes due to server issues
Cydo remember when we had 2h downtimes on tuesday?

he doesnt hes getting old
Look when i open the launcher it request me download the update to pando media booster....and after that give me a error unknown....and dont let me play!!!! please i need help about it...!!!:confused::confused::confused::confused:

restart your computer.

when you run the updater, right click it from your start menu and run it as an administrator.

hopefully that helps.
my 2 xp rune that i cant real use 2400 coins for nothing
Someone needs a hobby.
I did the pando thing,let the game update and then uninstall it from my pc and remove the folder. You don't have to use this junk in order play,just to update. There's no need for all this panic "omg u guyz my internutz is gunna be sooo slo!"
I can't instal Pando either. Same stupid code 0 error:
Exception Type: NC.Patcher.UserFriendlyException
ErrorId: UnknownError
Message: Error Code: 0 (UnknownError):
Pando must be installed in order to update this game.
DetailedMessage: Error Code: 0 (UnknownError):
Pando must be installed in order to update this game.
Data: System.Collections.ListDictionaryInternal
TargetSite: NULL
HelpLink: NULL
Source: NULL:mad:
you have removed skills healer. how do you compensate unwanted light armor now? you return spent more than 1 billion for the useless armor and 0,5 on useless weapon?

The new mastery also adds a bonus for the light armor, but I guess you chose it because that way you had both more casting speed and p.def than wearing a robe, which, at the same time, NCSoft qualified as a mistake.

As far as I remember, it was supposed to be that way from the beginning, Light set-> More Pdef, lower Casting speed; Robe set-> Less Pdef, more MP, higher casting speed :D
could this be the weakness of computer servers and technologies and human errors we're facing today?
Ok, this is UNACCEPTABLE.
You do NOT make items untradable in a game which has its own economy.
In the last months I have used a buyshop to buy arround 250 Large RSS Packs and they are totally useless now as I am a mage. I bought them to resell or give to my friends, now you waste me about 400 MILLION adena and they are forced to rot in the warehouse.
I will be waiting for compensation in adena or tradable Soulshot packs, Thank you.
QQ moar, you are not different than RMT traders
I did the pando thing,let the game update and then uninstall it from my pc and remove the folder. You don't have to use this junk in order play,just to update. There's no need for all this panic "omg u guyz my internutz is gunna be sooo slo!"

Yeah +1, people tend to be so ****** sometimes... :o
I can't instal Pando either. Same stupid code 0 error:
Exception Type: NC.Patcher.UserFriendlyException
ErrorId: UnknownError
Message: Error Code: 0 (UnknownError):
Pando must be installed in order to update this game.
DetailedMessage: Error Code: 0 (UnknownError):
Pando must be installed in order to update this game.
Data: System.Collections.ListDictionaryInternal
TargetSite: NULL
HelpLink: NULL
Source: NULL:mad:

are you logged into windows as an administrator?

windows might see it as a new program and now allow new installation or modification to the firewall if you are not admin on your own machine.
The problem allot of people may be experiencing with Pando is there Antivirus/spyware or other blocking programs are preventing it from working as it none to allot as crapware.
bloody emergency maintainence again we better get compensation for this
Update 2* Due to unforeseen circumstances, we are currently having emergency maintenance to correct the server crashes and technical issues. We apologize for the inconvenience!
Don't worry, let them install PANDO then once you have the game launched just remove it using the control panel > add/remove programs :P no more PANDO taking your BW.
I did the pando thing,let the game update and then uninstall it from my pc and remove the folder. You don't have to use this junk in order play,just to update. There's no need for all this panic "omg u guyz my internutz is gunna be sooo slo!"

But if you will remove Pando, how will the new player's instal the client, since from now on they will instal the game from us?
The new mastery also adds a bonus for the light armor, but I guess you chose it because that way you had both more casting speed and p.def than wearing a robe, which, at the same time, NCSoft qualified as a mistake.

As far as I remember, it was supposed to be that way from the beginning, Light set-> More Pdef, lower Casting speed; Robe set-> Less Pdef, more MP, higher casting speed :D

yes i like you reply. and ncsoft stated that it made them overpowered class. i am glad this fix this. as we all know they are two op classes. stop crying healer and summoner. their job is to fix bugs.
*New* All Soulshot and Blessed Spiritshot Packs (found in the Exploration Packs) have been changed from tradable to non-tradable, as it was observed in past weeks that these items were popular among RMT traders (who were subsequently banned). It is also for this reason that it was not possible to release this information beforehand.

maybe that's why it took longer :)
Let's hope they banned enough of them, not one or two :)
pando give me error in current update!!! WTF!!!! said me it ------->Código de error: 0 (UnknownError):

Pando must be installed in order to update this game.
are you logged into windows as an administrator?

windows might see it as a new program and now allow new installation or modification to the firewall if you are not admin on your own machine.

you have to run it in admin mode or it won't work. Windows should prompt you for permission and tell it yes and away you go!
But if you will remove Pando, how will the new player's instal the client, since from now on they will instal the game from us?

Well, some people just don't think in the future... or maybe they plan to do that every time there's a new patch to update.
But if you will remove Pando, how will the new player's instal the client, since from now on they will instal the game from us?

There's plenty of places to dl l2. I am not sharing my bandwith for a bunch nooblets who need to leech my files. NC can shove their bloatware eating internet programs.
my 2 xp rune that i cant real use 2400 coins for nothing

why would anyone attempt to buy xp runes with the track record ncsoft has this month, the servers are broken dont waste ur money.
We are currently experiencing server stability issues. If the server crashes again we will have a 30 minute emergency maintenance to further investigate these issues. We apologize for the inconvenience!


ehhh Can i ever relay on your anouncemnts?
it was 6 hours when i checked it, now as i count its 8,5 hours from start of maintance started and servers are not up
I have problem with login server, than trafic problem when server was on light capacity after it npc not apear than i was kiked
i can underestand some technical problems but .... even if its free game its too long and too surprising
ok i have no ncoins items but some ppl have and they lose their time ....
"Due to unforeseen circumstances, we are currently having emergency maintenance to correct the server crashes and technical issues. We apologize for the inconvenience!"

unforseen? Don't you test the patches before applying? :confused:
A new bullet point was added to the maintenance notice. For security reasons, it was not possible to announce it prior to the server maintenance.

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why not just make EVERY item in game non trade able! that would stop RMT all together. you get what you farm. thats what it sounds like its gonna turn into eventually.
why not just make EVERY item in game non trade able! that would stop RMT all together. you get what you farm. thats what it sounds like its gonna turn into eventually.

Nope that wouldnt, there is still pleveling and several other methods.

For example before maintenance I saw people selling 76 to 85 in 6 hours for adena.
Okay so for Pando error:

I added pando to windows firewall, restarted my pc, ran the launcher in admin mode and still getting the error. Any other suggestion?
QQ moar, you are not different than RMT traders

What are you talking about man? Its a game with an open economy, i do nothing but buy and sell when the demand is enough.

WTS 200 Untradable Large RSS packs, or not, ty ncsoft.
you have removed skills healer. how do you compensate unwanted light armor now? you return spent more than 1 billion for the useless armor and 0,5 on useless weapon?

You bought equipment to use something which obviously (to anybody with common sense) was not intended by the devs (nobody can tell me he actually BELIEVED that light armor was INTENDED to give more casting speed than robes...). Now the fun time is over, go sell your light armor and be happy you had a few weeks of exploiting a game flaw. But don't expect any compensation lol
Nope that wouldnt, there is still pleveling and several other methods.

true. but then they could just make it where each account marries the IP that it first logs on with and not allow you to connect to any other. that way when your ISP changes your IP overnight, you have to reroll. lol
To ameliorate the issue of RMT/Adena spam in-game, chat restrictions have been applied to the game. The chat channels "All," "Shout" and "Trade" are now restricted to characters level 20 or higher. "Whisper" is possible but a future maintenance should make it so that it is only possible in reply form. This change is meant to be temporary and it may be altered or removed in the future.


Unfortunately , this will hardly affect the RMT spammers. Since getting to level 20 can be done within an hour or less.

An auto system to detect www.whatever sites, used to peddle this stuff, should be used to scan all public chats, intelligently and logically, and filtered. As well as auto booted and banned.
I would like to thank NCSoft for being such *****ers and not putting the servers up, the servers were supposed to be up 3 hrs ago and im still waiting, wtf?
"Due to unforeseen circumstances, we are currently having emergency maintenance to correct the server crashes and technical issues. We apologize for the inconvenience!"

unforseen? Don't you test the patches before applying? :confused:

Who cares about testing? If it crashes/ain't working something, they can wait till we fix it in the game time. After all they did it like that before when it was pay to play, so why not do it now.
he doesnt hes getting old

sorry was spamming facebook, I don't live on these forums :P
I would like to thank NCSoft for being such *****ers and not putting the servers up, the servers were supposed to be up 3 hrs ago and im still waiting, wtf?

You do realize the servers are down b/c its broken lol.
Okay so for Pando error:

I added pando to windows firewall, restarted my pc, ran the launcher in admin mode and still getting the error. Any other suggestion?

do full windows update
do full windows update

What does this mean?
Sure you don't ... sure you don't ...
true. but then they could just make it where each account marries the IP that it first logs on with and not allow you to connect to any other. that way when your ISP changes your IP overnight, you have to reroll. lol

Not really, they sell the lvling for adena and you have to follow their party in game. If you go to Lower GC on Shillen you will see a guy botting doing that all day long.

So in the end the ip never changes because it is always the player using it.
why are the servers not online yet, and don't tell me im bad at math cuz i've been waiting for 9 hours instead of 6.... please NCSoft hurry the **** up.
What does this mean?

Ask Gates :D

Sorry, couldn't help it...
I liked the lineage before becoming free, because before there were so many problems like now.
be said that the maintenance would last 4 or 5 hours, after 4 or 5 hours were on the l2 again.
What does this mean?

If you have a legit windows copy, make sure all of your Windows is up to date on all of the updates Microsoft gives out.
These lag fixes are ridicculous, the 2 main reasons of lag is
- mentors keep their characters logged in 24/7
- tersi's event

Now, that you remove tersi's event u'll say all this lag-prevent stuff was a great success. But why did u allow transfers to magmeld? You ****** off 99% of the players there and moreover magmeld lagged too because of the stupid event, abut 5h a day constant item lag. Possibly many players will leave and many others will refrain from buying anything from item shop. Congratulations.
Who cares about testing? If it crashes/ain't working something, they can wait till we fix it in the game time. After all they did it like that before when it was pay to play, so why not do it now.

If you apply a patch, must test first. If not, don't do it
I liked the lineage before becoming free, because before there were so many problems like now.
be said that the maintenance would last 4 or 5 hours, after 4 or 5 hours were on the l2 again.

Would you rather go back to your 1000 player population with 700 sell/buy shops instead? I think i'm being gracious saying 1000 also, aren't I?
RMT is a problem, but tbh, making items untradeable just sucks

As several said, l2 has an economy, some people chose to xp, some chose to play with the economy which is fun as well. You don't need to be a farmer to play with the economy.

I bet 70% of the people that got screwed with this soulshots package deal are RMT's.. but 30% legit players just got played
If you apply a patch, must test first. If not, don't do it

Like I said, they don't care. Period.
mentors keep their characters logged in 24/7You do understand that you are talking nothing to nothing ? hopefully u do.

So if a mentor is playing they are helping to lag it as well ;P nice logic u have there. Or are u just sad that no one gave u mentoring ;P... U mad bro ? U mad ?
<-- NC customer for 12 going on 13 years now. NC been a fail company the entire time. idk why i stay. so addicting...
"Due to unforeseen circumstances, we are currently having emergency maintenance to correct the server crashes and technical issues. We apologize for the inconvenience!"

unforseen? Don't you test the patches before applying? :confused:

they got rid of the test server when they fired moxie in october.
i have the same error from update...lol....thx ncsoft
These lag fixes are ridicculous, the 2 main reasons of lag is
- mentors keep their characters logged in 24/7
- tersi's event
Congratulations.


it has nothing to do with mentors being logged in. chronos was just up for 10min but without NPCs. tons of mentors logged in. the second NPCs were spawned, the server crashed. so it obviously has something to do with the NPC table relaying to the server itself. faulty coding.
About Pando do the following:

1. Update your windows via Windows update.
2. Clean up your disk where L2 is installed and free at least more 2 GB.
3. Restart PC.
4. Update your client now.
yeah, i have the same problem :/ sometimes it stops on 100% and stays like that...

got around it by leaving the stuck patcher window open, then open task manager, end the PMB.exe (pando media booster) process. now the download bar starts over and finishes.
I can't instal Pando either. Same stupid code 0 error:
Exception Type: NC.Patcher.UserFriendlyException
ErrorId: UnknownError
Message: Error Code: 0 (UnknownError):
Pando must be installed in order to update this game.
DetailedMessage: Error Code: 0 (UnknownError):
Pando must be installed in order to update this game.
Data: System.Collections.ListDictionaryInternal
TargetSite: NULL
HelpLink: NULL
Source: NULL:mad:.

Registered to help you guys out. I was getting the same error so I will post what worked for me.

Make sure you have ports 80 443 563 and 56056 enabled.
I use comodo firewall:
Network Security Policy >> Port Sets (tab) >> add new port >> single port >> enter ports listed above if not shown

after i did this the next time i was prompt for pando it installed and i was able to update client and load client.


EDIT: edited my post to show you guys were i got the information for my fix. LINK -----> http://www.pandonetworks.com/games/help
under the section
"Your system is currently not allowing access to our servers" or "Pando Media Booster cannot connect to the network".
It is very simple, NCsoft knows the chronos server is the worst server outa all of them and letting those who don't want to pvp with bots leave the server
*New* All Soulshot and Blessed Spiritshot Packs (found in the Exploration Packs) have been changed from tradable to non-tradable, as it was observed in past weeks that these items were popular among RMT traders (who were subsequently banned). It is also for this reason that it was not possible to release this information beforehand.

WTF? I did buy these with overnight buy-shop and sell with sell-shop or thru AH to make some money, no RTM involved (for me), only IG currency. Now I am sitting on 200 packs that I dont need and cannot sell, not even to NPC. Nice. Not.
so it obviously has something to do with the NPC table relaying to the server itself. faulty coding.

Really? You already pinpointed the problem? Are you a dev for ncsoft?

Sit down, I bet you know little, if anything, about coding. The only thing you did have correct was it has a NPC server issue. The specific issue with it, has yet to be announced, and probably never will be.
I have sucessefully solved this stupid Error 0. Looks like sometimes this pando junk cannot find proper path to the "Progam Files" folder. Then it installs themself somewhere in the LocalData but writes incomplete paths into the registry. In the result you cannot uninstall it from control panel. And cannot install it again because installer complains about already installed version.

You have to find PMBInst.exe somewhere into your disk C:, then you will have folder named "null" near. Go deeper there till you find uninstall.exe and run it, it uninstalls pando.

Then copy PMBInst.exe to the c:\! (make the folder first) and run it manually (best as admin).

Also read pando FAQ it describes how to stop it and how to configure upload bandwidth.
I like how new ppl geting familar with Nc lol.



btw for the ppl they cry about this pando i have solution.

Install it make game updates and then unistall it :)

;o
RMT is a problem, but tbh, making items untradeable just sucks

As several said, l2 has an economy, some people chose to xp, some chose to play with the economy which is fun as well. You don't need to be a farmer to play with the economy.

I bet 70% of the people that got screwed with this soulshots package deal are RMT's.. but 30% legit players just got playedSo in their zeal to fight RMT they are taking the opposite tact of Eve (a game released roughly at the same time). Oddly enough today EVe has little in the way of RMTers now but Lineage2 is so bad you cannot even use shout in any town zone. I fully expect them to continue to double down on the fail at this point..


Speaking of fail this pando bloatware is full of fail and I'm debating if it's worth dealing with to continue playing the last NCsoft game I play.
even if you are right, there is no reason for strong language ..

So true, so true...
RMT is a problem, but tbh, making items untradeable just sucks

As several said, l2 has an economy, some people chose to xp, some chose to play with the economy which is fun as well. You don't need to be a farmer to play with the economy.

I bet 70% of the people that got screwed with this soulshots package deal are RMT's.. but 30% legit players just got played

if 70% got screwed it was worth it then find other ways to make money there are still plenty thats why there is a dwarf class >.>
I like how new ppl geting familar with Nc lol.



btw for the ppl they cry about this pando i have solution.

Install it make game updates and then unistall it :)

;o

BINGO! Give this guy/gal a flippen cookie!
ok , i read all those out-of-topic posts! ca i please read something from the NCwest crew , about when approax will the servers be up?
:P their servers needed windows update.

But 6 hour maintenance turning into 9hour + seems somewhat unreliable.
ok so Now we have a new issue. When you want to pick your server, the button on Chronos choice does not work anymore. That's one issue after the other, since GoD update..
NC make a post, i know all your forums gm's are the only employee's u guys got but come on u killin ur own game! or is that the plan with what you guys did to lineage 1?
got around it by leaving the stuck patcher window open, then open task manager, end the PMB.exe (pando media booster) process. now the download bar starts over and finishes.

i did that before.. but trying again :)
ech.. no luck.. it is still stuck and PMB.exe shows imedialty after i end it..
ok so Now we have a new issue. When you want to pick your server, the button on Chronos choice does not work anymore. That's one issue after the other, since GoD update..

Wait until every server is online, then you can press the button.
I may be wrong but isn't NCwest just the the lacky of NCsoft in korea (at least in regards for lineage)? Or are they actually able to do their own things?
I may be wrong but isn't NCwest just the the lacky of NCsoft in korea (at least in regards for lineage)? Or are they actually able to do their own things?

they CAN do their own things, as long as its approved first by NC korea..for those of you that saw the end of lineage 1, that proved it. o.o
Servers still messing up? Ok, back to Star Trek Online...
hello all u new player .... Welcome to ncsoft

this

welcome to the **** we had to deal with for years, WHILE paying for the game, Good luck

time to find a new game
is this one of the consequences of making L2 free? 9 hours maintenance is quite lame...
ok so Now we have a new issue. When you want to pick your server, the button on Chronos choice does not work anymore. That's one issue after the other, since GoD update..

That is 1 of two things.

1. the servers are still not up/open to us even though it says up.
2. The server/game is lagging. Earlier this week you would click wait 5 min to get to the character screen click a character wait another 5 for it change to the loading screen, and then another 5 min to actually get in the game lol.
s o o n
Anyway some things are clear.
- the measures won't stop bots to sell their stuff
- the crashes are caused by the NPC server
- an unwanted third party soft was uncalled and unnecessary, but smart players will get their way around
- don't try to fix something that isn't broken (see previous point)
- the move should've been to a fresh new server not to an already "heavy" one.
- the maintenance schedule will never be respected
this

welcome to the **** we had to deal with for years, WHILE paying for the game, Good luck

time to find a new game


So Ncsoft is just as good at this as Aeriagames then your saying LOL
Do you guys have any suggestions of any other good free mmo to start looking at lol.
About Pando do the following:

1. Update your windows via Windows update.
2. Clean up your disk where L2 is installed and free at least more 2 GB.
3. Restart PC.
4. Update your client now.


1. Latest Updates installed this morning.
2. At the moment 317 GB free on the the disk L2 is installed.
3. Done
4. Stuck at 99%
wow some of you guys need to calm down lol. You should happy to take any maintenance as long as things get fixed. They should definitely open a test server and test patches before they go live.
1. Latest Updates installed this morning.
2. At the moment 317 GB free on the the disk L2 is installed.
3. Done
4. Stuck at 99%


im running win7 64bit and had no problems installing pando my PC is up to date on all updates and i clean my registry regularly what does that say about what you do on your PC ?
Servers still messing up? Ok, back to Star Trek Online...

Good plan, goes back to STO as well...
Anyway some things are clear.
- the measures won't stop bots to sell their stuff
- the crashes are caused by the NPC server
- an unwanted third party soft was uncalled and unnecessary, but smart players will get their way around
- don't try to fix something that isn't broken (see previous point)
- the move should've been to a fresh new server not to an already "heavy" one.
- the maintenance schedule will never be respected

NUFF SAID!!:rolleyes:
Please be patient, the NCSoft Staff is working diligently to fix the lag issue, soul/spirit shot issue, overcrowded servers issues; for 3 weeks now.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
These GM's get paid to do nothing.
LF app to NCSoft.
i find it quite hilarious that people are talking about RMT when you can legally purchase game changing items from NCsoft.

i also find it funny that half the people complaining are from private servers, which were 100% against the rules before the game went to free to play.
if it wouldn't be REAL vs barca , I would QQ a lot >.<
Well I'm hoping they get their **** together I like the game. Don't know If it's just THIS branch of NC but I've never had the problems that are here on others(CoH: Freedom or GW). 3 hour maintenance or content update means 3 hours not 3 hours + 4 hours to fix ****.Oh well...guess I'll head back over to Heroes and check back in a week to see if this gets fixed.
Healers down to awakening status

i hope you do the same with other classes
Sucks that I can log into others servers up but not Chronos :confused:
can you log into chronos atm? i cant
This is indeed impressive, I don't blame NCwest as they probably dont have a single Game Dev there, But why don't the koreans do something ?
^This.

The chat limit is not a bad idea, but I'm betting on raging lowbies right after patch.


stand by for party room sale shops. i guess this is a good hands off way for gm's to 'silence' lvl 1 adena sellers, but this is still a pretty lazy fix. besides, this way, no gm will have to waste their time actually logging in and banning these people.
Like I said, they don't care. Period.

Yes, i agree 100%. They don't care.
can you log into chronos atm? i cant

Naia and Shilin are "heavy" the rest are down for me.
Some people just need to understand that doing a maintenance is NOT like installing Windows updates and restarting your computer. It is a very sophisticated system and have a brain.
BTW there are more important things in life than your Dynasty pixels
Says Light on Chronos but unable to log into it lol could be why its light :p
Go into SoA, server crashes
Go into Zaken, server goes down with 30second warning.
GG
I liked lineage before becoming free, because before there were no problems like this.
be said that the maintenance would last 4 or 5 hours, 4 or 5 hours or even less then the L2 was already on.
almost never needed to do emergency maintenance.
there was not much lag, among other problems.
definitely the end of l2 is coming.
Well I'm hoping they get their **** together I like the game. Don't know If it's just THIS branch of NC but I've never had the problems that are here on others(CoH: Freedom or GW). 3 hour maintenance or content update means 3 hours not 3 hours + 4 hours to fix ****.Oh well...guess I'll head back over to Heroes and check back in a week to see if this gets fixed.

The main difference I see with Coh vs Lineage is that with COH ncwest has more control versus Lineage where someone else confirmed previously NCwest has to get approval for something etc from NCsoft korea.

Maybe NCsoft korea doesn't care anymore and ncwest is screwed in the middle lol.
Bartz must be the new Live test server, I think they gave up on Chronos lol.

Oh no!!! Don't say that Alkemist! Chronos is where my husband and I have our characters!!! *faints* :eek:
http://www.l2rpa.org/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=44927#44927

could this be a reason?

doubtful. don't think they would take down the servers for this reason without telling everyone that it was because of this reason, and then blaming it on maintenance. that would be illogical.

maybe if it was april fools. but thats quite a ways away, and that would probably still piss alot of ppl off.
Yes, i agree 100%. They don't care.

They care, really they do, there was once a server wide announcment policy with one which stated "behind every account is a real person, they have feelings"

Obviously this was abused and rejigged by players to "behind every 10 accounts is 1 real person" ^^
will be up tomorrow or the day after? just say the time and we wait.
And Back down we go! :mad:
no money no staff
We have found the cause of the server instability problem and we are working on implementing in on all servers, one by one. In-game announcements are being made if your server is about to go down for a quick emergency maintenance. We continue to monitor all servers for stability issues.
Hopefully NC Soft will be good enough to show their faith in the users with a pretty 2x event or even a free XP item to all of us being damaged for this maintenance.
If you see that server status is "Light" and you can`t login it means that technical stuff is on this server and they are checking some things in order for everything to work as it supposed to work
Im w8ing the next announcment:
Thank you for being with us all this years sorry but we lost everything....
After more than a whole week of server BS I probably won't reach 85 before the First castle sieges on bartz, IM ***** SICK OF THIS
We have found the cause of the server instability problem and we are working on implementing in on all servers, one by one. In-game announcements are being made if your server is about to go down for a quick emergency maintenance. We continue to monitor all servers for stability issues.

You are working to implement the problem on all servers D: ?
We have found the cause of the server instability problem and we are working on implementing in on all servers, one by one. In-game announcements are being made if your server is about to go down for a quick emergency maintenance. We continue to monitor all servers for stability issues.

Server announcements?
I never manage to log in chronos i was just frozen on server selection
1. Latest Updates installed this morning.
2. At the moment 317 GB free on the the disk L2 is installed.
3. Done
4. Stuck at 99%

i did all windows updates and i still having the same error...:confused:
what other thing i can do???? i need help quickly....
You are working to implement the problem on all servers D: ?
funni :D
If you play Leagueoflegends you already have PMB instaled, just kill the process PMB.exe and try to install again.
We have found the cause of the server instability problem and we are working on implementing in on all servers, one by one. In-game announcements are being made if your server is about to go down for a quick emergency maintenance. We continue to monitor all servers for stability issues.

Thank you for the hard work Sace.
i get to the server selection screen , but OK is not working
Guess its time to go outside :(

* walks outside, cowards from the sun*

well never mind that i guess, but i hope this fix works:D
Thank you NC for working hard to find the problem.
Just tell us when the servers will be online. Because I need to decide to go to sleep or not
i did all windows updates and i still having the same error...:confused:
what other thing i can do???? i need help quickly....

One thing no one has said, is that the issue may not be on your side, maybe the issue is server side where it is pulling the data from.

Try again maybe once the servers and everything becomes more stable.
Chornus is back. SS is not working again.
OH MY GOD. SERIOUSLY OMG.

Ok, its working now =)
If you play Leagueoflegends you already have PMB instaled, just kill the process PMB.exe and try to install again.

im not play LOL....so...how i download PMB in other way?
Next time use the whole day and just leave the game to 6 days a week on
We have found the cause of the server instability problem and we are working on implementing in on all servers, one by one. In-game announcements are being made if your server is about to go down for a quick emergency maintenance. We continue to monitor all servers for stability issues.

thanks for an update, just got ingame, had ss/mailbox/pots lag initially, but now all seems to be good. also experienced about a 20-30 second delay on server select screen and same on character select screen. im sure you know this, but just putting it out there.
thanks for an update, just got ingame, had ss/mailbox/pots lag initially, but now all seems to be good. also experienced about a 20-30 second delay on server select screen and same on character select screen. im sure you know this, but just putting it out there.

the log in lag is cause every player is trying to log in at same time
So Shilen server is up , but you can still take aghation from priest and use it , nothing change in that part??
So Shilen server is up , but you can still take aghation from priest and use it , nothing change in that part??

Good point... maybe it just doesnt give the item ?
Just picked mine up from priest of blessing. Still gives specters.

Another fail by NCSOFT?
it does actually..
On Shilen, Magmeld and Bartz, Tersi's Light Agathions are removed from the game, the Priest of Blessing no longer gives Tersi's Light Agathions, and the Tersi's Light (http://www.lineage2.com/en/news/events/tersis-light.php) event enters its final stage in which Fragments of Light no longer drop from monsters. Remaining Specters of Light and Fragments of Light may still be used. Remember, Specters of Light may still evolve even if no Fragments of Light are pushed into it; rewards can be obtained from the Specter of Light without using the agathion.

So I guess we have another bug on the server now as it still gives out the aghation items.
so much Rage in this thread.
of course i understand most of it.
people get mad when servers are down due to crashing, or elongated maintenance.

about Light armor for healers, it's been a long time coming.
healer in light armor have really high cast speed for no reason.
you don't get gimp now, you just get normalized.
you don't need to get rid of light armor, your cast speed won't drop that much for the increased p.def. heavy is also a good option, especially since the cast speed isn't penalized as much as it used to be.

other classes keeping old skills instead of taking new ones.
they made a decision to keep a skill rather than take a new one.
but each skill gives up something which could be useful.
so it's not like armor mastery which is not useful...
it's like a toggle where you could have a buff, or give up a little m.attack for some m.def. give up summoning a helpful cubic for some other properties.

in most cases these skills might still be learned later on when they improve.
while something like armor mastery...
would never be learned because it never improves.

NC just realized they had an oversight, and have made a decision to fix it.
i'm sorry for your loss, but they fix things a lot, and usually for the better.

for the greater good.


as for Pando?
i'm currently not playing the game because i don't like having to download a program i have never heard of before so i can play a game i've been playing since the open beta tests.
this is not the same as "NC Launcher"
it's a Third party program, unrelated otherwise to NCsoft.

let me know when they change their minds and we don't have to download this third party program.
maybe that was the problem that they saw.. if they remove the agathion, the server goez crazy that is why it was not removed.. so the lag still continues.. why not stop the event tody and we dont care?
maybe that was the problem that they saw.. if they remove the agathion, the server goez crazy that is why it was not removed.. so the lag still continues.. why not stop the event tody and we dont care?

I feel like another restart will come soon because of it ;P otherwise we will still have the lag problems of lots of RMT's loggin on lvl1's
Pando Media Booster is not detected as P2P software, i just scanned my computer and it didn't detected. So it's good news for me.
Because of the server instability issues, some parts of the maintenance were not successfully executed. It is possible that more changes (and possible emergency maintenances) will be made in the near future, but there are no additional details on this yet. As soon as there are I'll update this thread.
Btw this fix

-Bug fix: If your character has a Melody or Saha buff in place, your pet will no longer repeatedly cast its buffs on you.

it's not working.
My kooka is still trying to buff me when I get my buffs up
Btw this fix


it's not working.
My kooka is still trying to buff me when I get my buffs up


I second that. pet still buffing crazy. I think they should WORK on the server, then post the update after they VERIFY. QA/QC :)
i guess you could just use the don't buff me for 5 minutes self buff for the pet. they have a lot to do, these things take time.
I second that. pet still buffing crazy. I think they should WORK on the server, then post the update after they VERIFY. QA/QC :)

That is the standard method which we did today, and it was all working correctly until the unexpected server instability issues occurred. Server stability takes precedence over applying bug fixes, so now that the servers are stable once again, we are looking into the matter of some maintenance changes that had to be edited in favor of server stability.

We'll post more updates on this when possible.
When I try to update my client, it keeps getting stuck at 58%.
A few hours ago it was getting stuck at 99%, now it's 58%.

By the way, I had to download and install Pando manually.

Can anyone pinpoint the problem because this is getting really frustrating...

Thanks.
No, cause the event is ongoing. You can have drops from specters without using fragments. But the only rewards youll get will be buff scrolls, brez, bsoe and elixir.

On a side note i believe that the whole event is the reason of all the problems /item lag, bot abuse, missing npcs/ and NCSoft don't want to admit it. Anyway the best we can do is wait for the event to end. Everything will be fine then.
Because of the server instability issues, some parts of the maintenance were not successfully executed. It is possible that more changes (and possible emergency maintenances) will be made in the near future, but there are no additional details on this yet. As soon as there are I'll update this thread.

Unless these fixes have to do with server stability or SS's working, PUHLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZ PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE do the maintenance on the next normal wednesday maintenance :( we have put up with this nonsense enough since goddess and f2p started :confused:

and btw, why can't you find people who can handle these game updates and make forums work right and be SECURE? I'm sure there are lots of qualified people looking for work :p
On Shilen, Magmeld and Bartz, Tersi's Light Agathions are removed from the game, the Priest of Blessing no longer gives Tersi's Light Agathions, and the Tersi's Light (http://www.lineage2.com/en/news/events/tersis-light.php) event enters its final stage in which Fragments of Light no longer drop from monsters. Remaining Specters of Light and Fragments of Light may still be used. Remember, Specters of Light may still evolve even if no Fragments of Light are pushed into it; rewards can be obtained from the Specter of Light without using the agathion.

Priest of Blessing continues giving Tersi's Light Agathion, and a large number of chars lvl 1 is already in the city with them --'

:mad:
it doesnt matter, wizard spirit is better than arcane power, even better at higher lvl. i never had empowering echo but it should be traded for something better at higher lvl, hopefully. the damage/debuff skills, good luck landing those on lvl 95+

about fixing light armor mastery, i must say, ahahaha. you have no room to complain, it was a bug and you knew it will be fixed. even on my healer sub i never intended to get light armor when i hit r-grade, seems like the right choice.

Wizard spirit - 30 sec buff with 3 min reuse. Arcana power + empowering echo - constant bonus (and actually give much more that wizard spirit).
Cyclone/RagingWaves/Vulkano/Gehena still make nice damage (no reason to change them for useles death syphon skill).
Day of Doom have 100% land rate on awaken toons.
Healers/Mages/Summoners still have old robe mastery and can OE it for m.def (+5...10% m.def is good)
Blazing/Freezing skin makes very nice reflect damage and can be OE'ed to increase reflect %.

There is a lot of examples when old skill pwnz.

You think that healers will use robe now? No way ... heavy is right answer.

http://s018.radikal.ru/i515/1201/06/b92d188b78a9.jpg

Sorry for russian language (screenshot taken from l2.ru). But you can see that kamael healer in full heavy set with knight harmony and standard buff have almost cap of cast speed. And just imagine that healer can have in party ex-BD/SwS enchanter who keep d/s. So his m.atk, cast speed, m.def will be much more that on screenshot.

Later I will post screenshot with buffs from ex-BD/SwS enchanter.
Dont know what is happening, but the lag issue continues, shut down server until the problem is fixed Game master.
SS lag just restarted.
HEY Sace!

Soon as the server hit 4500 players (chronos) ss lag began. Maybe this is related to your problem????? Just a thought.
Lag is back
Im this >[]< close to quitting this crrap
Going to play Skyrim
Any thing going on with Chronos server as of 4:00 Pacific? I get "hung up" at server select screen and nothing happens.....just another new prob or am I missing something?


Dracha...any clue?


Lald
SS lag just restarted.

thought you were using a creative way to get around the censorship.
but i guess you actually meant restarted.
funny thought though, as both wards would fit that statement :)
Soul Shots aren't working again! Thank god all that maint fixed it.
Shot Lag is Back!@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NC you have a serious problem. You are going to lose thousands of players . You better get this fixed Please !!!!!!!!!!! I enjoy this game ,but I am about to go back to Rift,
We're looking into the reports of lag restarting.
SS lag again...

The same problem as aways

You have missed a lot
Its the lag... it takes forever to get to char then forever to login.
Who would have thought this would happen on retail.

lulz.
Shot lag didn't start until the event was messed with. Event needs to be removed completely instead of just bits and pieces. Who knows that might fix the server issue...
Shot lag didn't start until the event was messed with. Event needs to be removed completely instead of just bits and pieces. Who knows that might fix the server issue...

Yea, my event item's was removed but in giran(chronos server) i still can see some tersi's agathion's summoned..............
you can still get the bracelet and you still get the specters while your agathion is out :/
Who would have thought this would happen on retail.

lulz.

This is not the first time an event caused servers to lag so bad shots failed and it won't be the last.
Shot lag didn't start until the event was messed with. Event needs to be removed completely instead of just bits and pieces. Who knows that might fix the server issue...
I don't think that's the event's fault since in Naia were applied the same event conditions applied to Chronos and there's no item lag at all.
We are aware of the agathions still being present and giving the event item. Please read the updates to the original post in this thread; we will post more updates as they come.
Game is running after maintenance but i have a "small" problem ...
5/6 chars of my account (same account) can log in without problems but the main char crash the client on attempts ...
Tried file check and restart pc/client and nothing , still main char crashing on log in and alts running fine .

mail to support already sent and waiting answer but ... for god sake guys , what is happening to this game ? >.>....
BTW this stupid event is not totally over on Chronus. We just received the message : Shilen is engulfing the entire continent with darkness.
nice fixes, gj
Fixed and now it is starting again!
Still...unable to log in to game. Complete day a waste. From what I can tell seems no way to contact someone to fix the issue.
BTW this stupid event is not totally over on Chronus. We just received the message : Shilen is engulfing the entire continent with darkness.
Same in Naia, and I could get a Tersi agathion right now from the Priest of Blessing. Something went wrong or someone forgot to delete the npc :D
fix the lag

is too lagged, is unplayable the shillien server


:S
BTW this stupid event is not totally over on Chronus. We just received the message : Shilen is engulfing the entire continent with darkness.

Shillen has been given title" GODDESS OF DESTRUCTION" removing her event from game terminates game,leaving her event in game causes chaos.
Message should have been edited. "NCsoft is ending this world in chaos.""
And now there is delay type lag :(
PET STILL BUFFING over new buffs
Shot lag is gone and I haven't seen a single adena shouter :D thanks finally ^^

For now things are better, happy at least something is finally getting done with the adena sellers.

    [FONT=Verdana]To ameliorate the issue of RMT/Adena spam in-game, chat restrictions have been applied to the game. The chat channels "All," "Shout" and "Trade" are now restricted to characters level 20 or higher. "Whisper" is possible but a future maintenance should make it so that it is only possible in reply form. This change is meant to be temporary and it may be altered or removed in the future.
    But why not to disable sellshops for lvl1 chars? Atm at every town we can see sellshops with signboard like www.adenasellersdomainnamehere.com>100mil>xx$
    You guys incompetent!

    [FONT=Verdana]*New* All Soulshot and Blessed Spiritshot Packs (found in the Exploration Packs) have been changed from tradable to non-tradable, as it was observed in past weeks that these items were popular among RMT traders (who were subsequently banned). It is also for this reason that it was not possible to release this information beforehand.
    It's a joke? When ppl selling ss packs because don't need them, it's RMT? Maybe ppl bough many Destiny Pack's because of unbind scrolls, R enchants etc. and gives many $ to NCWest, it's ok. But they sell ss packs through AH, resellers collect those packs, and now they not tradable? LoL
    How about Scroll: Enchant Weapon of Destruction (R-Grade) wich you added last week to Destiny Pack's? Are you crazy? It's beginning of End... Even Innova hidden those scrolls deep inside some boxes behind "Korean random", but you ... you gives those scrolls just for $45 each ... Incredible!!! Two +15 R weapons on Naia and one +15 R weapon on Chronos appeared just last week, with many +14,+13 etc. Why not BEWR? Why Destruction? Why just $45? Because ...
    You guys incompetent!
    And stop disconnect ppl for nothing! Why my trader got disconnected many times,while main still in game or vice versa with one ISP on 1 PC ...
Thanks, these should help the community deal with the emotional hardships we've endured these pass couple of weeks (for those counting that is 336+ hours of impeded game play since Jan 4th).

I can see a thread or two in the works already, pages upon pages of thanks and love.
These+ 15 weapons probably bought 8 of these packs which i believe included S grade soul shots. What are them people to do with all them? These people paying bills for ncsoft now and look what they get. Atleast make them sellable to shop. I agree however the destruction scroll should be untradeable if someone to spend$ 400 U.S. to increase there gameplay then that's up to them but don't let them be selling them for fast adena. .i really doubt anyone really buying these packs just to sell soul shots.
So what about the people buying the packs for the EWR destructions and enchanting blessed apoc weapons and selling them for lots of adena (would be way more efficient than buying packs for shots to sell).
Is this considered RMT? Is this unbalancing gameplay? I would believe so.
I kind of hated the fact that I did buy like 2 packs and there's items in it I didn't need,but could sell. Some us paid for game time in advance and rather than getting refunded we got Ncoin credited to our accounts. I for one would have liked my money back not ncoins. Now if I buy a pack and I can't use everything in it I'm stuck with it or trash it.
To ameliorate the issue of RMT/Adena spam in-game, chat restrictions have been applied to the game. The chat channels "All," "Shout" and "Trade" are now restricted to characters level 20 or higher. "Whisper" is possible but a future maintenance should make it so that it is only possible in reply form. This change is meant to be temporary and it may be altered or removed in the future.

Like we predicted... NOT GONNA WORK!!!!

http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/8877/l22012011908033430.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/823/l22012011908033430.jpg/)

This screenshot was taken 10 minutes ago. And to make things worst, RMT-bots start o PM us now :(

FFS NC DO SOMETHING SERIOUS AGAINST THE BOTS AND NOT LAME ***** LIKE YOU DO NOW
Well i hate to say i told ya so NC...but i did....there they are again and it didnt even take 1 day....the adena spammers are still in game....i just knew it was too good to be true....well like the old saying goes...believe half of what ya hear and nothing what ya see.....better luck next time....i will say this tho as a somehwat of an "Atta Boy"....lag down and shots working again.....ill give ya half a pat on the back. Heres some advice for you to take heed to......next time ya plan on doing something about the adena spammers.....DONT ADVERTISE WHAT YA GONNA DO BEFORHAND ( like ya did 1-18-12 patch notes) so all english speaking spammers/farmers can read it
What ppl dont seem to realize is:

...
As for the STS skills you keep or turn in for new ones, I do not believe that is a bug. The new skills are both skills that lower your mp usage, and the old ones increase the mp usage. Seems like a fair trade off.
What other people do not realize is that healer who decided to have light armor mastery also decided not to take +2 INT bonus from new mastery. Which means lesser M attack and lesser land rate of debuffs. Doesnt it sounds fair?
DONT ADVERTISE WHAT YA GONNA DO BEFORHAND ( like ya did 1-18-12 patch notes) so all english speaking spammers/farmers can read it

And if they didn't advertise that what? They could have saved you 20min of free adena sale spam? You know that it's only 20 min to lvl from 1-20 right?

What other people do not realize is that healer who decided to have light armor mastery also decided not to take +2 INT bonus from new mastery. Which means lesser M attack and lesser land rate of debuffs. Doesnt it sounds fair?
OH nooooooo... -2 INT which means less M.Attack and lesser land rate on debuffs (http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/005/165/PFFFFT.png) is exactly the same with capped casting speed and ~x2 armor. Why didn't we thought of that. I demand a compensation for the poor Aoere.
Maybe you could try to ask teachers at elementary school to give you some lessons on understanding of written text. I never said I request any compensation. What I said was that I dont understand QQing about healers having light armor mastery and explanation why it is definitely a bug:
1) healers in light armor used health weapon or old S duals. Both weapon with sucky M attack. For those who have problems to make conclusions: less dmg to players and worse land rate of debuffs. Only person who did not try it can say the land rate is the same. It is not and you could mainly see it on higher level enemies.
2) this light armor mastery thing was not repaired in Korea for two updates. I really think they know some things about their own game...
3) and this is the most important: it is so funny who NCsoft NA defends the decision to delete the skill with argument "game design expected players to take new skills" but they delete only this skill and leave others untouched... (empowering echo, arcane power, old res...)
Your mentality can't help you understand Game mechanics as it seems and even common sense.
Doing 1000 damage per second is better than 1300 every 2 sec.
If you cannot understand how OP the casting speed was leave this discussion to grown ups and go to sleep like a good boy you are. Chop-chop
Please... Try to comment something you have at least some clue about. I told it in some topic before. The only visible or feelable difference in robe vs light is SA bonus from weapon/Mattack. What will you do with capped cast speed if you need to wait 1 or more second for reuse of skill...
I am not RMT tradedr but i dont understand 1 thing:
Bots spammning for sites where you can buy adena for real money.
Ok thats considered RMT.

Real Players are buying from NcSoft's shop ncoins to buy Ingame items or packs and if you dont need the whole pack you sell it for adena.
What is on that RMT.
Or NcWest wants to kill his busines with Ncoins?
Maybe you could try to ask teachers at elementary school to give you some lessons on understanding of written text. I never said I request any compensation. What I said was that I dont understand QQing about healers having light armor mastery and explanation why it is definitely a bug:
1) healers in light armor used health weapon or old S duals. Both weapon with sucky M attack. For those who have problems to make conclusions: less dmg to players and worse land rate of debuffs. Only person who did not try it can say the land rate is the same. It is not and you could mainly see it on higher level enemies.
2) this light armor mastery thing was not repaired in Korea for two updates. I really think they know some things about their own game...
3) and this is the most important: it is so funny who NCsoft NA defends the decision to delete the skill with argument "game design expected players to take new skills" but they delete only this skill and leave others untouched... (empowering echo, arcane power, old res...)

That was not game design.
Game design was for you to replace old skills with new skills meaning you could keep certain old skills if you wanted.
The bug was the fact that light armor mastery was supposed to be deleted, and since it was not deleted it didn't work as it was intended to work because "Magician's Movement" was deleted upon awakening which lowers your casting speed by 50% with light armor.
So having one without the other is a "bug" or possibly an oversight. (Either way it needed to be fixed)

Those other skills you talk about are still there because they are game design. You give up old skills for new skills. In some cases the old skills are better than the new ones, but that doesn't make that a bug. lol
Did the level 20 to even be able to chat get implemented? What a naive idea to stop the RMT spam. Like it takes more than 5 minutes to get to level 20. =P You're only hurting the possibility of an actual new player having an enjoyable first impression because he or she cannot ask basic questions and won't know how to pm.

Healer Superior Armor Mastery still isn't worth learning btw. Enchant your old Robe Mastery for +% M.Def. instead and you'll get better stats in the end. However unlike the Light Armor thing, this is hardly broken or overpowered.

I'm not sure why I still log in and play anymore. I hate my class, soulshots lag too much to play my main, ncsoft supports pay to win, they implement a mandatory bandwidth sucker that probably allows people to sniff my IP and **** my account, etc. I'm running out of motivation here. My QQ cancer is taking over!
That was not game design.
Game design was for you to replace old skills with new skills meaning you could keep certain old skills if you wanted.
The bug was the fact that light armor mastery was supposed to be deleted, and since it was not deleted it didn't work as it was intended to work because "Magician's Movement" was deleted upon awakening which lowers your casting speed by 50% with light armor.
So having one without the other is a "bug" or possibly an oversight. (Either way it needed to be fixed)

Those other skills you talk about are still there because they are game design. You give up old skills for new skills. In some cases the old skills are better than the new ones, but that doesn't make that a bug. lol
How can you tell it was a bug? In Korea, they had it for another two updates. Dont you think that developers would repair it immediately (like NCNA did now) if they would consider it as a bug?
And in the rest of your post you deny yourself. You say you can have old skills cause sometimes they are better than new ones. I already said people with light mastery sacrificed bonus to M attack. Isnt it fair?
"they implement a mandatory bandwidth sucker that probably allows people to sniff my IP and **** my account"

I do agree with you PMB sucks but lets not overreact here :). PMB is only used for updates. Once you update the game you can uninstall it. It will work perfectly fine. PMB is not a mandatory tool to PLAY the game, it is mandatory to keep your game UP TO DATE. The game runs very nice without it.
"they implement a mandatory bandwidth sucker that probably allows people to sniff my IP and **** my account"

I do agree with you PMB sucks but lets not overreact here :). PMB is only used for updates. Once you update the game you can uninstall it. It will work perfectly fine. PMB is not a mandatory tool to PLAY the game, it is mandatory to keep your game UP TO DATE. The game runs very nice without it.

It's going to hurt anyone who doesn't know how to deal with it. I do have it blocked with my firewall in case of it being belligerent @ uninstall and I uninstalled it. This is less about "I got mine, screw the rest" and more about the fact that it happened in the first place for me.

It's peer2peer, so your IP can be located by hackers/crackers with the necessary tools. Not everyone's internet setup is secure, so I think there will be issues with this. Then again, so is positing on non-official L2 forums or even just clicking a random L2 quest website you never heard of with google search. Apparently a lot of the hacking incidents floating around at the moment are because of the path to awakening website, or so the rumors go.
As for Bartz i hope there will be a chance to migrate to other server, maybe with GMT +1, as for other things im thinking about leaving ncwest and start to play on servers managed by Russians, they disabled Mentoring system to promote XP Runes, but they dont sell DEWRs (till now). It looks like they are better than ncwest.

funny thing, maybe it is time to leave Lineage 2 and move to something better.

As for PMB it is Torrent based so there are Zillions of tools to mess up with this kind of software...
*New* All Soulshot and Blessed Spiritshot Packs (found in the Exploration Packs) have been changed from tradable to non-tradable, as it was observed in past weeks that these items were popular among RMT traders (who were subsequently banned). It is also for this reason that it was not possible to release this information beforehand.


Are you kidding me? I bought 200 packs for cheap from players to sell them with some profit and now i cant do anything with it? It cost me over 200kk adena! Where is your RMT?? I bought it for ADENA and want sell it for ADENA why i have to be punished for something that i dont do? You fail to ban and remove RMTraders so you make stupid updates to destroy legit players life...
What is next? Make R grade crystals untradeable because everyone tries to make +16 weapon (with enchants from your "no gameplay affected" shop) and fail and sell R grade crystals for cheap? Awesome really
So now i have 2 milion BSSS that i cant even use...
Can you tell me if this is only temporary? Can i sell my spiritshots someday? Or do i really have to pay 200kk for you not able to use BANHAMMER on some RMTraders and came up with stupid updates?
You didn't successfully remove all Event Agathions from Chronos. Some people are still using them to get specters.
Sace: Have you (ncsoft) completly stop using the PTS to test all your updates? No normal dev team apply an un tested fix to a live server? This is just failor, you have been around for years now and should know the basics about this stuff?

The compensation are a pie in the face to the community that support yours salary. I mean check the lits of compensation innova handed out for the SS lag, which are fixed so just get nckorea send you the patch to? I mean cmone there servers run without any problems and its the same files?

RMT, how hard can it be? trace the ips on the accounts and do a ban ip/account. Takes you like what? 5min to script that and just run it once a day on all chars sitting in town.
Are you kidding me? I bought 200 packs for cheap from players to sell them with some profit and now i cant do anything with it? It cost me over 200kk adena! Where is your RMT?? I bought it for ADENA and want sell it for ADENA why i have to be punished for something that i dont do? You fail to ban and remove RMTraders so you make stupid updates to destroy legit players life...
What is next? Make R grade crystals untradeable because everyone tries to make +16 weapon (with enchants from your "no gameplay affected" shop) and fail and sell R grade crystals for cheap? Awesome really
So now i have 2 milion BSSS that i cant even use...
Can you tell me if this is only temporary? Can i sell my spiritshots someday? Or do i really have to pay 200kk for you not able to use BANHAMMER on some RMTraders and came up with stupid updates?

pwned!

On a serious note, that's NCsoft for you. Break 5 things to fix 1 thing (and still fail)
RMT, how hard can it be? trace the ips on the accounts and do a ban ip/account. Takes you like what? 5min to script that and just run it once a day on all chars sitting in town.

There is a much easier yet most radical way to get rid of it.

Trace all the transactions (in which suspicious lvl 1 characters transfered huge amounts of adena to various players) and ban the adena buyers. I say, BUYERS.

Once the farmers' customer base disappear, adena sellers will be gone in no time.
There is a much easier yet most radical way to get rid of it.

Trace all the transactions (in which suspicious lvl 1 characters transfered huge amounts of adena to various players) and ban the adena buyers. I say, BUYERS.

Once the farmers' customer base disappear, adena sellers will be gone in no time.

The sellers dont trade the adena, so to trace down transfers will be hard :). Most use shops/ drop adena
Sace ...you dont get it do ya......stop comensating ppl everytime you guys at NCSoft screw up.....Fix the problems and there would be NO NEED for compensation...maybe it is not you ... working on the server itself but for gods sakes...have you shown the posts coming in to the ppl that are ?........PPL ARE GETTING ****** OFF AND YOUR GOD UPDATE IS GONNA BE THE DEMISE OF THIS GAME IF YOU GUYS DONT DO SOMETHING AND QUICK...ENDGAME WONT COME AT LVL 99....ITLL BE ALOT SOONER IF THINGS DONT GET DONE IN A TIMELY FASHION....MY CLAN ( 2ND BIGGEST ON THE CHRONOS SERVER) IS ABOUT TO GO AND FIND A NEW GAME AND WE TAKING OUR ALLY WITH US ...TELL THAT TO THE PPL WORKING ON THE SERVERS, TELL THAT TO YOUR SUPERIORS...OR PERHAPS, NOW THAT l2 IS f2p...YOU GUYS DONT CARE ANYMORE ( HMMM, MAYBE LIKE TELEVISION SHOWS, AFTER 7 YEARS THEY TAKEN OFF THE AIR). DO US ALL A FAVOR AND QUIT GIVING US VAGUE ANSWERS LIKE "WE ARE AWARE OF THE PROBLEM AND WORKING DILIGENTLY TO FIX IT"...Diligently means same as Expediant...Expediant means quick ( you call over 2 weeks Expediant/Diligent ? ) H ell if i did that at my job...i wouldnt have one. I want ya to look at this, right off the Pando website.....>
"Pando Networks helps leading international game publishers improve the delivery experience of their online games. Publishers working with Pando see more users convert to game play while generating more revenue for the publisher". ......now if you guys are gonna make more revenue...then WE EXPECT A BETTER ONLINE EXPERIENCE FROM NC SOFT WITH NEW AND UPDATED EQUIPMENT ( not some 7 year old, drug from the basement, dust blown off and put to use server)......Tell that to your superiors and perhaps you wouldnt get so aggrevated at looking at all these negative posts....I KNOW THIS IS NOT YOUR FAULT SACE AND ITS YOU TAKING THE FLACK FROM ALL OF US AND IT HAS TO GET FRUSTRATING READING ALL THIS CRAP......BUT YA MIGHT WANNA STRESS HOW BAD IT IS B4 NCSOFT GOES DOWN THE TOILET DUE TO PPL LEAVING FOR OTHER GAMES NUFF SAID FOR NOW...ITS BEDTIME :confused: :( :mad: :eek:
Wait, what? more revenue? Isn't it just to supposedly to help us download the 2 - 20mb weekly patches? /sarcasm
Sace ...you dont get it do ya......stop comensating ppl everytime you guys at NCSoft screw up.....Fix the problems and there would be NO NEED for compensation...maybe it is not you ... working on the server itself but for gods sakes...have you shown the posts coming in to the ppl that are ?........PPL ARE GETTING ****** OFF AND YOUR GOD UPDATE IS GONNA BE THE DEMISE OF THIS GAME IF YOU GUYS DONT DO SOMETHING AND QUICK...ENDGAME WONT COME AT LVL 99....ITLL BE ALOT SOONER IF THINGS DONT GET DONE IN A TIMELY FASHION....MY CLAN ( 2ND BIGGEST ON THE CHRONOS SERVER) IS ABOUT TO GO AND FIND A NEW GAME AND WE TAKING OUR ALLY WITH US ...TELL THAT TO THE PPL WORKING ON THE SERVERS, TELL THAT TO YOUR SUPERIORS...OR PERHAPS, NOW THAT l2 IS f2p...YOU GUYS DONT CARE ANYMORE ( HMMM, MAYBE LIKE TELEVISION SHOWS, AFTER 7 YEARS THEY TAKEN OFF THE AIR). DO US ALL A FAVOR AND QUIT GIVING US VAGUE ANSWERS LIKE "WE ARE AWARE OF THE PROBLEM AND WORKING DILIGENTLY TO FIX IT"...Diligently means same as Expediant...Expediant means quick ( you call over 2 weeks Expediant/Diligent ? ) H ell if i did that at my job...i wouldnt have one. I want ya to look at this, right off the Pando website.....>
"Pando Networks helps leading international game publishers improve the delivery experience of their online games.......now if you guys are gonna make more revenue...then WE EXPECT A BETTER ONLINE EXPERIENCE FROM NC SOFT WITH NEW AND UPDATED EQUIPMENT ( not some 7 year old, drug from the basement, dust blown off and put to use server)......Tell that to your superiors and perhaps you wouldnt get so aggrevated at looking at all these negative posts....I KNOW THIS IS NOT YOUR FAULT SACE AND ITS YOU TAKING THE FLACK FROM ALL OF US AND IT HAS TO GET FRUSTRATING READING ALL THIS CRAP......BUT YA MIGHT WANNA STRESS HOW BAD IT IS B4 NCSOFT GOES DOWN THE TOILET DUE TO PPL LEAVING FOR OTHER GAMES NUFF SAID FOR NOW...ITS BEDTIME :confused: :( :mad: :eek:

- points for your inane ranting.
+ points for your use of the phrases "timely fashion", "expedient" and "diligent".

On a serious note though, the service has been bad recently and the compensation is a little underwhelming.

If anything, the influx of new players has highlighted the need for a working anti-bot system and potentially upgraded server hardware.
path to awakening website has been down since emergency maintenance was done. ETA when that will be fixed?
Sace ...you dont get it do ya......stop comensating ppl everytime you guys at NCSoft screw up.....Fix the problems and there would be NO NEED for compensation...maybe it is not you ... working on the server itself but for gods sakes...have you shown the posts coming in to the ppl that are ?........PPL ARE GETTING ****** OFF AND YOUR GOD UPDATE IS GONNA BE THE DEMISE OF THIS GAME IF YOU GUYS DONT DO SOMETHING AND QUICK...ENDGAME WONT COME AT LVL 99....ITLL BE ALOT SOONER IF THINGS DONT GET DONE IN A TIMELY FASHION....MY CLAN ( 2ND BIGGEST ON THE CHRONOS SERVER) IS ABOUT TO GO AND FIND A NEW GAME AND WE TAKING OUR ALLY WITH US ...TELL THAT TO THE PPL WORKING ON THE SERVERS, TELL THAT TO YOUR SUPERIORS...OR PERHAPS, NOW THAT l2 IS f2p...YOU GUYS DONT CARE ANYMORE ( HMMM, MAYBE LIKE TELEVISION SHOWS, AFTER 7 YEARS THEY TAKEN OFF THE AIR). DO US ALL A FAVOR AND QUIT GIVING US VAGUE ANSWERS LIKE "WE ARE AWARE OF THE PROBLEM AND WORKING DILIGENTLY TO FIX IT"...Diligently means same as Expediant...Expediant means quick ( you call over 2 weeks Expediant/Diligent ? ) H ell if i did that at my job...i wouldnt have one. I want ya to look at this, right off the Pando website.....>
"Pando Networks helps leading international game publishers improve the delivery experience of their online games.......now if you guys are gonna make more revenue...then WE EXPECT A BETTER ONLINE EXPERIENCE FROM NC SOFT WITH NEW AND UPDATED EQUIPMENT ( not some 7 year old, drug from the basement, dust blown off and put to use server)......Tell that to your superiors and perhaps you wouldnt get so aggrevated at looking at all these negative posts....I KNOW THIS IS NOT YOUR FAULT SACE AND ITS YOU TAKING THE FLACK FROM ALL OF US AND IT HAS TO GET FRUSTRATING READING ALL THIS CRAP......BUT YA MIGHT WANNA STRESS HOW BAD IT IS B4 NCSOFT GOES DOWN THE TOILET DUE TO PPL LEAVING FOR OTHER GAMES NUFF SAID FOR NOW...ITS BEDTIME :confused: :( :mad: :eek:

awesome. **** now
In the beginning there is not so many lag, and then the tersi event comes, and with it lag, a little lag, to a enormous, unplayable lag, no way game master, shut shiilen down, tell us the truth, money problem? nc soft trying to end the game? will back to be paid, to many problems in truly free? too many players? i talking with friends, entered a strong clan of some donators, with this lag on shillien server, they will not stay, the way you are doing things, desrespect players, you are losing money, and our belief, this lag is absurd, i dont know if it is only on shillien, but is too great. I see a dark future coming.
Is Chronos fixed yet? I have not logged in in over a week
Is Chronos fixed yet? I have not logged in in over a week

Nope :mad:
If I could figure out how to play EVE I would. Seriously. Work a 12hr day to come home and play L2 for a few relaxing hours. This just gets me more upset.

Whats that movie about how facebook started? "If the servers go down, that's the end its finished." Dont remember the exact quote from the movie but I think the idea here is the same. 10 days now with these issues? Many many issues? Wake up guys.
Looks like spammers have finally leveled up their characters... They are back, was good while it lasted :P
Looks like spammers have finally leveled up their characters... They are back, was good while it lasted :P

Was there even any downtime for them?
Was there even any downtime for them?
Yes.